@Draconic, mtgs has a couple leagues, but it may be too late to enter. Pm me and I'll see what's up. PM thadeceptikon. His sig proclaims they are still looking for players for the upcoming season. Id do it fast though, as drafts are rapidly approaching. If they are all filled up, I may be able to join a public league with you or something, but I don't know how serious I can take it with being in three leagues already.
@GoC, +100.
The other stuff with the commander's arsenal seem cool. The counter is neat. The sleeves look lame. I don't think I've ever read a rant that sums up my feelings quite like your last two posts. I think Scavenge is neat, but after that vaneer it's worthless. I'm quoting this in the [House Dimir] thread.
@GoC, +100.
The other stuff with the commander's arsenal seem cool. The counter is neat. The sleeves look lame. I don't think I've ever read a rant that sums up my feelings quite like your last two posts. I think Scavenge is neat, but after that vaneer it's worthless. I'm quoting this in the [House Dimir] thread.
First, thanks for the cross post... I've been doing more ranting in the "Evan Erwin spoiled this poop" thread in the Rumor Mill, starting on like page 5 or 6.
Re: Commander box, my biggest fears are the following:
1. 15 of 18 foils being reprints of the 15 new generals from last year's Commander set
and
2. No oversized sleeves.
The die is cute, but I get the feeling that, if someone knocks the table, it's going to go for a roll. Plus, in a Commander set, having a method of keeping life that doesn't account for general damage seems pointless, I dunno. Maybe it's just me, expecting things to make sense.
EDIT: Speaking of sense, what ****ing sense in the world does it make to, for the first time, distribute +/- counters in a VERY expensive, VERY empty box, containing a product that's an appeal to a subset of the player base? Why weren't these debuted in, say, the M13 fat pack, or similar?
Sorry to intrude GoC, but you honestly should have a page where you rant on topics....
The only thing I saw that I want is Urborg, Vesuva (can never have enough in my group) and Maze of Ith.....
No apology necessary. I've considered having a blog or something, but I'm not much for typing on that kind of regular basis (I have a few failed blogs to attest to that). I do it a lot with Magic because the majority of my IRL friends (not counting current and lapsed clan members) don't play at all, and sometimes on Facebook, but that's more for general rantings. Formerly, I had an Internet radio show/podcast where a friend and I discussed politics, but our friendship has been strained since he put his trust in Alex Jones. If you want the full effect of my words, imagine my post being read by Penn Jillette.
For the record, I went ballistic when I saw Desert was in at DMX's last night; I must have gone on for five minutes or so.
We usually have a number of good rants in our clan threads around product release dates. OH NO! MAN had a classic rant recently - maybe around one of the last two sets. (Here's the post.) mikey k is well known around here for declaring how bad sets suck.
I have so much pimp on this set already. Playset of foil Urborg, at least 2x foil Vesuva, a playset each of FNM and Arabian Nights Deserts, a foil High Market (though, TBH, I think that's the only one I own heh) and a few other foils... Like, I need the Gorge and the Maze, and the Chasm and the Ancient Tomb are nice...
If you take away the prices of the singles (since lands are more versatile, their values tend to be higher), this really isn't any better than FTV: Legends. As I said in one of my posts in the Mill, I guess when Forsythe said this would be the "stone cold nuts," maybe he meant that our nuts would grow stone cold upon seeing it.
EDIT: @ rian: You're going to get the live version in two hours or so.
No apology necessary. I've considered having a blog or something, but I'm not much for typing on that kind of regular basis (I have a few failed blogs to attest to that). I do it a lot with Magic because the majority of my IRL friends (not counting current and lapsed clan members) don't play at all, and sometimes on Facebook, but that's more for general rantings. Formerly, I had an Internet radio show/podcast where a friend and I discussed politics, but our friendship has been strained since he put his trust in Alex Jones. If you want the full effect of my words, imagine my post being read by Penn Jillette.
For the record, I went ballistic when I saw Desert was in at DMX's last night; I must have gone on for five minutes or so.
We usually have a number of good rants in our clan threads around product release dates. OH NO! MAN had a classic rant recently - maybe around one of the last two sets. (Here's the post.) mikey k is well known around here for declaring how bad sets suck.
I have so much pimp on this set already. Playset of foil Urborg, at least 2x foil Vesuva, a playset each of FNM and Arabian Nights Deserts, a foil High Market (though, TBH, I think that's the only one I own heh) and a few other foils... Like, I need the Gorge and the Maze, and the Chasm and the Ancient Tomb are nice...
If you take away the prices of the singles (since lands are more versatile, their values tend to be higher), this really isn't any better than FTV: Legends. As I said in one of my posts in the Mill, I guess when Forsythe said this would be the "stone cold nuts," maybe he meant that our nuts would grow stone cold upon seeing it.
EDIT: @ rian: You're going to get the live version in two hours or so.
Im of a less critical opinion. Now I really agree on desert and I would like to meet who thought it was a good idea, so I can shove a pineapple down their throat.
Its better than Legends. The one card I would of liked in legends had crappy art (Progen.). At least we get a sub-140 Foil Maze of Ith, an Urborg and a Vesuva with other cards thrown in.... Grove isnt terri-bad and FO is decent (I have a thing with Vintage Oath apparently.) Gorge is meh and Chasm has an EDH deck that would love it.
Still (hype =/= expectations ) = people unhappy. Wizards needs to shut up when they say "stuff will be better". Same with Capcom
Now watch Wizards go full idiot and put foil Karakas in the commander thing. I would laugh my everloving ass off at that. (I know its banned, thats why....)
@Rian: I wish you luck. Both in doing well at FNM and escaping these Lunatics (In the best way possible) with your sanity...
Stumbling in to say last night was awesome, the FNM scene was very welcoming but the T4 games were a blast (Mind Cage ), I am coming back to NYC just to throw down again
Double thanks to goc & mikey for putting together that :symr::symg: aggro pile for me – that is a cool fun deck to play, it was great to be able to just drop into Standard & beat down with rancored elves
If any of y'all are ever on my side of the world, let me know so I can return the hosty favours
Mentlegen, tis good to be back in the clan thread.
I've decided to go to U/G instead of G/W due to the fact that I autoscoop to planeswalkers.
Just gonna leave this decklist here, feel free to post any improvements upon my work.
InB4 "play a better deck, a-hurr durrrr"
Mentlegen, tis good to be back in the clan thread.
I've decided to go to U/G instead of G/W due to the fact that I autoscoop to planeswalkers.
Just gonna leave this decklist here, feel free to post any improvements upon my work.
InB4 "play a better deck, a-hurr durrrr"
Is your only wincon mill from Jace?
I have lots of notes for this, but I am unsure at what you are trying to do. Am I missing something?
Its a turbofog deck. Basically, its a counter to magics "herp-derp, turnin 'em sideways mentality" that they seem to be pushing. It wins through milling and running enough fog effects to slow the game down. Taimyo is a crucial piece as she draws massive cards and her ultimate basically seals the game in your favor.
@Cheers: Do you enjoy torture, because your deck implies so....
Anyways, ever consider Elixir of Immortality? Its 5 life and shuffles back spells and lost cards pre-Taimyo Ultimate.
I say yes, If only for the mere fact that you can do your opponents job for them with Delver of Secrets. And we all know how much people whine about Delver....
Terrifying Presence may also be good. Opponent casts a Delver and attacks with other creatures.... make it so that the not-attacking delver is the only thing that can deal damage.
So I've decided that I'm buying the Commander's Arsenal just because of how much I love EDH. You know what they should have included, though? One of those oversized boxes meant specifically for EDH decks. Although I don't recall if those can hold a sleeved EDH deck or not.
Also, I have finally broken my streak of not getting every Planeswalker in a core set before the release of the next set. Drafted M13 last night at Mark's and opened a first pack Nicol Bolas. Not planning on playing him ever, just nice to finally open one up. Although the idea of making a five-color Planeswalker control deck for EDH using Progenitus as the general has always intrigued me. Might be time to draw up a list....
I say yes, If only for the mere fact that you can do your opponents job for them with Delver of Secrets. And we all know how much people whine about Delver.....
Not worried about delver, the damage still gets prevented because he's not a werewolf.
Terrifying Presence may also be good. Opponent casts a Delver and attacks with other creatures.... make it so that the not-attacking delver is the only thing that can deal damage.
Had a talk with GoC last nightand he said the same thing. I think it's a good board card to bring in but honestly it can still cause you to take mondo damage.
also I'm thining of pulling a few forests for Ghost Quarters just to deal with the problem lands. Still need to figure out where to squeeze in 2x Elixers
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Wow.
Luckily, I have never had the misforune of playing a deck like this. I was quite confused for a bit there, but the article and closer examination and thought put behind the list showed me what's up.
I rarely say things like this, but this is messed up in todays Standard meta.
If I start seeing these builds, I'm going to blame you, cheersforsneers:)
First off, sorry for not having been around the past few days. Had a great weekend that was marred at the very end by family drama which dragged into yesterday... and then I got a potential family bombshell today as a message in the birthday card my mom sent me. So, yeah, that. On to replies...
Stumbling in to say last night was awesome, the FNM scene was very welcoming but the T4 games were a blast (Mind Cage ), I am coming back to NYC just to throw down again
Double thanks to goc & mikey for putting together that :symr::symg: aggro pile for me – that is a cool fun deck to play, it was great to be able to just drop into Standard & beat down with rancored elves
If any of y'all are ever on my side of the world, let me know so I can return the hosty favours
Dude, it was a blast chilling with you! Would be great to do it again.
So I've decided that I'm buying the Commander's Arsenal just because of how much I love EDH. You know what they should have included, though? One of those oversized boxes meant specifically for EDH decks. Although I don't recall if those can hold a sleeved EDH deck or not.
Have they announced the full card contents yet? I'd wait for that first, brother
Had a talk with GoC last nightand he said the same thing. I think it's a good board card to bring in but honestly it can still cause you to take mondo damage.
I really think you should swap the Presence to your main for the Moonmists. Moonmist has a horrific downside g1 against any deck with Huntmaster and/or the Silverheart.
also I'm thining of pulling a few forests for Ghost Quarters just to deal with the problem lands. Still need to figure out where to squeeze in 2x Elixers
Yeah, def get some Ghost Quarters in there. I'd drop a fog spell or two to get the Elixirs in.
Wow.
Luckily, I have never had the misforune of playing a deck like this. I was quite confused for a bit there, but the article and closer examination and thought put behind the list showed me what's up.
I rarely say things like this, but this is messed up in todays Standard meta.
If I start seeing these builds, I'm going to blame you, cheersforsneers:)
We (mikey and I) spent hours at various points trying to steer him away from the strategy. He insists on playing it, despite our protests. At least, since he's borrowing the deck from me, he knows what is to be done if he faces me.
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Digi, thanks for the well wishes. Half of my problems should be gone, as long as it's true that my sister and her boyfriend left the state for good. Today's bombshell... I dunno what to make of it... I guess I'll have to find out just how much "maybe" this is tomorrow. *sigh* (Edit: Just posted on my ol' MTGS blog what the birthday card bombshell was; needed to get it off my chest.)
He scoops to me or I revoke turbofog deck privileges. (It was a condition of my even building the deck for him. )
If I start seeing these builds, I'm going to blame you, cheersforsneers:)
Don't worry, people generally think about useing a deck like this with the same caution that a country uses to determine who to nuke. It's a strategy that can have spectacular victories and equally spectacular failures.
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Yeah, def get some Ghost Quarters in there. I'd drop a fog spell or two to get the Elixirs in.
Dropping fog spells is bad, you need alot to get the job done. honestly I may even use 62 cards to keep the current number of fogs
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We (mikey and I) spent hours at various points trying to steer him away from the strategy. He insists on playing it, despite our protests. At least, since he's borrowing the deck from me, he knows what is to be done if he faces me.
They make it sound like I'm a supporter of waterboarding and enjoy persecuteing me for it:mob:
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They make it sound like I'm a supporter of waterboarding and enjoy persecuteing me for it:mob:
Turbofog is MtG's equivalent of torture. We only suggest that you don't play it because of how unfun it is to play against. I can't make it through a practice game against Turbofog without wanting to quit Magic.
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Decks that roll to Negate aren't all that amazing. Additionally, good luck beating a Nephalia Drownyard.
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I told you the simple solution: just scoop then and save yourself the hassle
Are you proud of winning via scoop in a practice game?
It's OK if you are. I just want to know. Cause, I gotta be honest, wanting to scoop in disgust during a practice game is the opposite of fun and, thus, the opposite of Magic. So even worse during an FNM. But, I at least have the security of being responsible for you playing it, and the courtesy extended thusly.
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Pm me and I'll see what's up.PM thadeceptikon. His sig proclaims they are still looking for players for the upcoming season. Id do it fast though, as drafts are rapidly approaching. If they are all filled up, I may be able to join a public league with you or something, but I don't know how serious I can take it with being in three leagues already.@GoC, +100.
The other stuff with the commander's arsenal seem cool. The counter is neat. The sleeves look lame. I don't think I've ever read a rant that sums up my feelings quite like your last two posts. I think Scavenge is neat, but after that vaneer it's worthless. I'm quoting this in the [House Dimir] thread.
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Re: Commander box, my biggest fears are the following:
1. 15 of 18 foils being reprints of the 15 new generals from last year's Commander set
and
2. No oversized sleeves.
The die is cute, but I get the feeling that, if someone knocks the table, it's going to go for a roll. Plus, in a Commander set, having a method of keeping life that doesn't account for general damage seems pointless, I dunno. Maybe it's just me, expecting things to make sense.
EDIT: Speaking of sense, what ****ing sense in the world does it make to, for the first time, distribute +/- counters in a VERY expensive, VERY empty box, containing a product that's an appeal to a subset of the player base? Why weren't these debuted in, say, the M13 fat pack, or similar?
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And if I've offended you, I'm sorry, but maybe you need to be offended. But here's my apology and one more thing...
The only thing I saw that I want is Urborg, Vesuva (can never have enough in my group) and Maze of Ith.....
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyFor the record, I went ballistic when I saw Desert was in at DMX's last night; I must have gone on for five minutes or so.
We usually have a number of good rants in our clan threads around product release dates. OH NO! MAN had a classic rant recently - maybe around one of the last two sets. (Here's the post.) mikey k is well known around here for declaring how bad sets suck.
I have so much pimp on this set already. Playset of foil Urborg, at least 2x foil Vesuva, a playset each of FNM and Arabian Nights Deserts, a foil High Market (though, TBH, I think that's the only one I own heh) and a few other foils... Like, I need the Gorge and the Maze, and the Chasm and the Ancient Tomb are nice...
If you take away the prices of the singles (since lands are more versatile, their values tend to be higher), this really isn't any better than FTV: Legends. As I said in one of my posts in the Mill, I guess when Forsythe said this would be the "stone cold nuts," maybe he meant that our nuts would grow stone cold upon seeing it.
EDIT: @ rian: You're going to get the live version in two hours or so.
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And if I've offended you, I'm sorry, but maybe you need to be offended. But here's my apology and one more thing...
Im of a less critical opinion. Now I really agree on desert and I would like to meet who thought it was a good idea, so I can shove a pineapple down their throat.
Its better than Legends. The one card I would of liked in legends had crappy art (Progen.). At least we get a sub-140 Foil Maze of Ith, an Urborg and a Vesuva with other cards thrown in.... Grove isnt terri-bad and FO is decent (I have a thing with Vintage Oath apparently.) Gorge is meh and Chasm has an EDH deck that would love it.
Still (hype =/= expectations ) = people unhappy. Wizards needs to shut up when they say "stuff will be better". Same with Capcom
Now watch Wizards go full idiot and put foil Karakas in the commander thing. I would laugh my everloving ass off at that. (I know its banned, thats why....)
@Rian: I wish you luck. Both in doing well at FNM and escaping these Lunatics (In the best way possible) with your sanity...
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyDouble thanks to goc & mikey for putting together that :symr::symg: aggro pile for me – that is a cool fun deck to play, it was great to be able to just drop into Standard & beat down with rancored elves
If any of y'all are ever on my side of the world, let me know so I can return the hosty favours
On the note of subscriptions, I forgot I had subscribed to you on youtube until just recently...
You do pretty good videos, I must admit.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI've decided to go to U/G instead of G/W due to the fact that I autoscoop to planeswalkers.
Just gonna leave this decklist here, feel free to post any improvements upon my work.
InB4 "play a better deck, a-hurr durrrr"
4x Fog
4x Clinging Mists
4x Noxious Revival
2x Blunt the Assault
3x Moonmist
4x Beast Within
4x Negate
4x Otherworld Atlas
4x Rites of Flourishing
2x Tamiyo, The Moon Sage
2x Jace, Memory Adept
4x Hinterland Harbor
2x Alchemist's Refuge
8x Island
9x Forest
As I said, I'm open to suggestions
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Is your only wincon mill from Jace?
I have lots of notes for this, but I am unsure at what you are trying to do. Am I missing something?
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Its a turbofog deck. Basically, its a counter to magics "herp-derp, turnin 'em sideways mentality" that they seem to be pushing. It wins through milling and running enough fog effects to slow the game down. Taimyo is a crucial piece as she draws massive cards and her ultimate basically seals the game in your favor.
@Cheers: Do you enjoy torture, because your deck implies so....
Anyways, ever consider Elixir of Immortality? Its 5 life and shuffles back spells and lost cards pre-Taimyo Ultimate.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyAs stated by Macius, this is a turbofog deck.
If you need more information on the strategy, read the article How to Lose a Friend in 10 Turns
Most definately:evillol:
Actually I literally forgot to add the card when compileing this list. I feel 2x is good but I have to wonder if it's enough.
Also, does anyone think Moonmist Should just be replaced with Blunt the Assault?
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I say yes, If only for the mere fact that you can do your opponents job for them with Delver of Secrets. And we all know how much people whine about Delver....
Terrifying Presence may also be good. Opponent casts a Delver and attacks with other creatures.... make it so that the not-attacking delver is the only thing that can deal damage.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicySo I've decided that I'm buying the Commander's Arsenal just because of how much I love EDH. You know what they should have included, though? One of those oversized boxes meant specifically for EDH decks. Although I don't recall if those can hold a sleeved EDH deck or not.
Also, I have finally broken my streak of not getting every Planeswalker in a core set before the release of the next set. Drafted M13 last night at Mark's and opened a first pack Nicol Bolas. Not planning on playing him ever, just nice to finally open one up. Although the idea of making a five-color Planeswalker control deck for EDH using Progenitus as the general has always intrigued me. Might be time to draw up a list....
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Not worried about delver, the damage still gets prevented because he's not a werewolf.
Had a talk with GoC last nightand he said the same thing. I think it's a good board card to bring in but honestly it can still cause you to take mondo damage.
The SB I want should look something like this:
4x Mental Misstep
4x Flashfreeze
4x Naturalize
3x Terrifying Presence
also I'm thining of pulling a few forests for Ghost Quarters just to deal with the problem lands. Still need to figure out where to squeeze in 2x Elixers
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Luckily, I have never had the misforune of playing a deck like this. I was quite confused for a bit there, but the article and closer examination and thought put behind the list showed me what's up.
I rarely say things like this, but this is messed up in todays Standard meta.
If I start seeing these builds, I'm going to blame you, cheersforsneers:)
Putting the sexy in Science Fiction!
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Dude, it was a blast chilling with you! Would be great to do it again.
Rancored elves...
I may have to consider trying to blog again. Seems to be demand for my words...
I hope you're wrong about RTR...
Ooh, methinks we'll have to be going to that one.
Have they announced the full card contents yet? I'd wait for that first, brother
I really think you should swap the Presence to your main for the Moonmists. Moonmist has a horrific downside g1 against any deck with Huntmaster and/or the Silverheart.
Yeah, def get some Ghost Quarters in there. I'd drop a fog spell or two to get the Elixirs in.
We (mikey and I) spent hours at various points trying to steer him away from the strategy. He insists on playing it, despite our protests. At least, since he's borrowing the deck from me, he knows what is to be done if he faces me.
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What happens if he plays you?
If this is a borrow/trade condition, I will laugh my butt off.
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He scoops to me or I revoke turbofog deck privileges. (It was a condition of my even building the deck for him. )
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And if I've offended you, I'm sorry, but maybe you need to be offended. But here's my apology and one more thing...
This is actually an inferior version of a deck I played back in Lorwyn block. Back then it was a white splash black deck.
If by "messed up" you mean brilliant against a huge portion of magic decks then I agree:nod:
Don't worry, people generally think about useing a deck like this with the same caution that a country uses to determine who to nuke. It's a strategy that can have spectacular victories and equally spectacular failures.
Dropping fog spells is bad, you need alot to get the job done. honestly I may even use 62 cards to keep the current number of fogs
They make it sound like I'm a supporter of waterboarding and enjoy persecuteing me for it:mob:
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I told you the simple solution: just scoop then and save yourself the hassle
Thats what elixers and quarters are for. Also, noone plays mill at marks, so it's a non-issue
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It's OK if you are. I just want to know. Cause, I gotta be honest, wanting to scoop in disgust during a practice game is the opposite of fun and, thus, the opposite of Magic. So even worse during an FNM. But, I at least have the security of being responsible for you playing it, and the courtesy extended thusly.
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And if I've offended you, I'm sorry, but maybe you need to be offended. But here's my apology and one more thing...
I was playing mill before switching to goblins. Don't make me go back just to grief you.
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Captain Sisay
Kaervek the Merciless
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Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Kresh the Bloodbraided