So: Do you hate net-decks? Do you want a Revolution? Well we all want to change the world... here at ARD, we strongly disagree with the current state of magic, where everyone copies the tier 1 deck. This seriously stifles any creativity in deck making today. So if you value creativity you should definitely join this clan.
WE ARE STILL RECRUITING!
To Join: Just post a deck that isn't a net-deck.
To become a friend: Just ask, no decklist is required, but it would be appreciated
Clan Representative: Phyrexian (Part time only, currently searching for a full-time Clan Rep)
Current Members:
Wild Mongrel
Phyrexian (Clan Representative)
Viroid
Lord of Obscurity
Uriel Coleridge
Sam111111
Howler13
Aaron Lambert
Seratonin
NightArcher
Ratmage
Daljo628
taj_gooba
Eventide
TheChosen1
Mr. C
Chobham
iPope
chaos550
Rubin8or
Tanthalas Half-Elven
Mrrodgers
Jarvi
Punkrockanarchymagic
Kronofear
Rawkmaster
Sac Revamped
Sher
Post Affinity
Bloodyspasm
T-101
YoSoyMilk
Jordman
Chaosworm
tubanazi
CainMaxi
Triumphforks
Ruler of Avatar
Qwerty
Thundersnow
The Argus
JimboThePie
Tessie
Bone Doc
Zytz
Jayisgames
SurrealSage
Doom Lich
Taron
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The Revenant
Isamaru
KarmicNoose
krizzlybear
Midmomagic
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MysteryGoo
Shaharazad
slayerofall
Someone
Casi Perfecto
Choco
frozen_yak
MegaMage
MiniMetal
Rodyle
Silver Seraph
Static
Marit
Allin
The Waffle King
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[URL="http://forums.mtgnews.com/showthread.php?t=175642"]The Realm for creative minds!!![/URL]
[url="/forums/outside-magic/clans/retired-clan-threads/443595-the-ard-is-back-on-track"]The Ard is back on track[/url]*
[url="/forums/outside-magic/clans/retired-clan-threads/443645-ard-is-alive-and-decking"]ARD is Alive and Decking[/url]*
[thread=12179][ARD] v3.0: The Revenge of the Rogue[/thread]*
[thread=21213][ARD] Thread 4: Killing three just wasn't enough.[/thread]*
[thread=21213][ARD] Thread 5: Who's Coming to the Block Party?[/thread]*
[thread=52196][ARD] Today's Rogue Deck is Tomorrow's Net Deck[/thread]*
[thread=97893]A H[ARD] Stone Rain's a-Gonna Fall...[/thread]*
[thread=120563]Breaking the C[ARD]s You Wouldn't Touch (And We Still Win)[/thread]*
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Update 10/13/09 -- Cleaned up the code for the clan thread, edited to show Dragoon26 as the clan rep instead of Seratonin. Changed clunky [url] tags to [thread] tags to clean everything up.
Even when I'm trying to quit the daru+shuko combo as it's usually enough with martyr, I'm still don't have a lot of cards that should go in these decks, thus making it still pretty rogue, but it has good matchups against almost everything (though very long and boring matchups).
EDIT: the title seems so nerdy, not that that is a bad thing.
Oh and you people are welcome to change the front page introduction when we make new threads. That was just something horrible I typed up when this clan was very much inactive.
Did anyone see the Beatles song and Bob Dylan song quoted there
Come on in, we'll give you shelter from the storm....
We are still recruiting!
So: Do you hate net-decks? Do you want a Revolution? Well we all want to change the world... here at ARD, we strongly disagree with the current state of magic, where everyone copies the tier 1 deck. This seriously stifles any creativity in deck making today. So if you value creativity you should definitely join this clan.
Asking out a girl is like trying to cast a first turn Necropotence. Sometimes the other player will have the Force of Will to say no. You shouldn't let that stop you from trying it.
Yay new thread.
The only deck I'm playing right now is Swans [and I'm not even really playing it - no time] without Cryptic Commands and with Wheel of Sun and Moon ... not so rogue.
I bought a pair of JBL Platinum computer speakers for $1 at a Garage Sale!!! They're REALLY AWESOME.
I think my computer setup is done to my satisfaction now [though a second monitor would always be a good thing ... no place to put it really, though].
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my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
And they all are extended legal. Although in the extended environment you have deal with some really crazy artifact destruction, like ancient grudge or shattering spree. I hope that helps though Seratonin.
There has been a lot of cards spoiled today. I'll post more about my opinion of them later.
@Spirit Soldier and Post_Affinity - thanks for pointing out these typos, they should be fixed now.
Trekkie nicknames is fine with me, although I will probably will not participate. I don't know the trek universe that well. To be perfectly honest, I pulled that quote off of YTMND.
Oh hai ARD. I love the new thread title and the trek subtheme is nice. If I was in ARD (I'm just a friend), I would so be one of those wierd aliens from the original series. Giant glowing cube or somesuch. Anyways, not too much is going on my magic front. The only project I have going is a new deck based on a certain artifact in the next set. Don't want to spoil anything for those who avoid them, but needless to say, I'll be using Mishra.
Oh hai ARD. I love the new thread title and the trek subtheme is nice. If I was in ARD (I'm just a friend), I would so be one of those wierd aliens from the original series. Giant glowing cube or somesuch. Anyways, not too much is going on my magic front. The only project I have going is a new deck based on a certain artifact in the next set. Don't want to spoil anything for those who avoid them, but needless to say, I'll be using Mishra.
It's really funny that I know what card you are thinking about. That card happens to be my favorite of the ones revealed so far.
I just LOVE this set so far. In between Lord of Exinction and Enigma Sphinx, this set is nothing but awesome. I've been thinking about Meddling Mage, and I like the idea of it coming back more now. Because I play rogue decks, it will be hard for my opponent to know what card to name.
I'll post a deck sometime soon. I want to see what else is in Reborn before I stick to a deck idea. I will post an improved version of the Doran EDH Deck sooner though.
EDIT: Seratonin, when do we get our card for the endurance contest.
I'm glad you asked, because I just assigned the cards a minute ago!
All other clan activities are put on hold until we figure out how to make a deck around Scion of the Ur-Dragon.
Obviously, we need a 5 color base, and all 10 of the tricolored Dragons, but what else my friends, what else?!
Even when I'm trying to quit the daru+shuko combo as it's usually enough with martyr, I'm still don't have a lot of cards that should go in these decks, thus making it still pretty rogue, but it has good matchups against almost everything (though very long and boring matchups).
I'm not very fond of the card we got. Five colors is a very big turnoff for me. Frankly I would just try to make a pitch deck with it, but there aren't enough good pitch cards in extended. The only pitch creature is Allosaurus Rider, who pitches too many cards, and doesn't work well in a landless deck (which is what a pitch deck would be).
We should only use one of each dragon card. The scion is tutor so that is all we would need. First of all, I HIGHLY suggest using Bladewing the Risen. Scion puts dragons in your graveyard and Bladewing brings them back. I also suggest Eternal Dragon, but not as highly. The dragon star cycle would also be good. Our opponent plays a spell to kill the scion, so you use his ability to get Keiga, the Tide Star; Yosei, the Morning Star; or Kukosho, the Evening Star (the rest of the cycle is no good). A single Nicol Bolas to cripple the opponent when our guy goes unblocked. Really, taking 7 and discarding your hand can be devastating. A couple Hellkite Overlords, so that when we play the scion, he can attack for 8 that turn. Dragon Mage is also a very good choice. His ability would give us a fresh new hand. Dragon Tyrant swings for twelve, so he would be good too.
I'm thinking it should be a reanimation deck. Teneb, the Harvester and Bladewing the Risen would both be good cards for that. But most of all, I suggest Patriarch's Bidding for that deck. It can return a graveyard full of dragons to play. Possibly including more than one Kukosho (I love Kukosho:love:) That is all for now. I'll post more at a later time, when it isn't at night.
EDIT: It's morning now, so I'll rant more.
Our deck is going to have some serious mana problems. Extended is fast, zoo drops 3/3s and 2/3 for one mana, faeries will counter everything, affinity completely overruns people (not like people play it anymore), Elves combos on turn three or four. So, We NEED acceleration. I suggest Chalice of the Void to slow down fast decks. A chalice for one will COMPLETELY shutdown elves (seriously, I practically lol whenever it happens). Engineered Explosives is also a good choice. Most people will sideboard artifact destruction though. BTW, a Chalice of the void for 1 will not stop a shattering spree. This what would happen, they play shattering spree replicating once. spree triggers the chalice, and chalice counters it. But, the copy is never played, and so it doesn't trigger the chalice, and then it goes boom.
my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Looking at that a renanimation/mana ramp deck with dragons is probably our best bet. I want to keep this focused on dragons and having a toolbox of them will be cool, and the ones I just listed are legendary, so we have room for more. And of course, we need Dragon Soul Knight and Dragonspeaker Shaman for our early game.
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This was meant to be posted a while ago, I just didn't hit the post button T_T
What gametype (Extended, Vintage, Legacy) is this contest built around? I was thinking that we could go with Conflux/Dream Halls to get some big dudes into play fast if we are going with the vintage card pool.
Looking at that a renanimation/mana ramp deck with dragons is probably our best bet. I want to keep this focused on dragons and having a toolbox of them will be cool, and the ones I just listed are legendary, so we have room for more. And of course, we need Dragon Soul Knight and Dragonspeaker Shaman for our early game.
Looking at that a renanimation/mana ramp deck with dragons is probably our best bet. I want to keep this focused on dragons and having a toolbox of them will be cool, and the ones I just listed are legendary, so we have room for more. And of course, we need Dragon Soul Knight and Dragonspeaker Shaman for our early game.
I say no to Jugan. Malfegor is a bit iffy to me also. Why not Hellkite Overlord, Nicol Bolas, or dragon tyrant? They all allow Scion of the Ur-Dragon to swing for cevastating amounts of damage. Overlord for the haste, Nicol Bolas for the hand kill, Dragon Tyrant for the double strike. Maybe Blazing Shoal is a good choice too. Also, Gifts Ungiven?
I think we should probably try to be defensive early game. The only changelings worth playing are Taurean Mauler, which is an automatic 4 of, and chameleon colossus. Some of the cards are iffy, so I put a "?" next to them.
As I said, I just searched up Legendary Dragons.
And the more cards we look up, the more obvious is that we're going to have a lot of self induced discard. I like Malfegor because it doubles as creating reanimation fodder as well as removal. I think we have an awesome late game with the PC wedge Dragons, Scion, and Bladewing. However, we should figure out the relative ammount of cards we want.
With a regular sixty card deck with a fairly high mana curve, and a five color based, we probably want at least 24 lands with 26 creature and 10 other assorted cards. Of course, most of the deck will consist of a dragon style tool box...
Obviously this decklist is pretty bad, but ... err ... you get the idea, right?
*edit*
I pooped the manabase out because I don't know what lands are in Extended, heh. Got to the '8 lands/4 pools' part, then threw random cards there.
my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
@TheDeadManX: The thread title is a reference to this. I did not come up with it. I only suggested it.
Sam, that's a start. We could do a lot better though. Vivids may be useful, although I think that stuff like City of Brass, Gemstone Mine, and Grand Coliseum are a better bet. Either that or we could go with fetches and Shocks, which seems like the popular way to do it these days.
@TheDeadManX: The thread title is a reference to this. I did not come up with it. I only suggested it.
Did I just get rickrolled?
So I don't think come into play dragons work well with Scion of the Ur-Dragon. The Kamigawa, leave play dragons are great though. Yea I admit that this card is hard to build around. But hey, we are ARD, right?
I like sam's decklist, except for the mana base.
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So: Do you hate net-decks? Do you want a Revolution? Well we all want to change the world... here at ARD, we strongly disagree with the current state of magic, where everyone copies the tier 1 deck. This seriously stifles any creativity in deck making today. So if you value creativity you should definitely join this clan.
WE ARE STILL RECRUITING!
To Join: Just post a deck that isn't a net-deck.
To become a friend: Just ask, no decklist is required, but it would be appreciated
Clan Representative: Phyrexian (Part time only, currently searching for a full-time Clan Rep)
Current Members:
Wild Mongrel
Phyrexian (Clan Representative)
Viroid
Lord of Obscurity
Uriel Coleridge
Sam111111
Howler13
Aaron Lambert
Seratonin
NightArcher
Ratmage
Daljo628
taj_gooba
Eventide
TheChosen1
Mr. C
Chobham
iPope
chaos550
Rubin8or
Tanthalas Half-Elven
Mrrodgers
Jarvi
Punkrockanarchymagic
Kronofear
Rawkmaster
Sac Revamped
Sher
Post Affinity
Bloodyspasm
T-101
YoSoyMilk
Jordman
Chaosworm
tubanazi
CainMaxi
Triumphforks
Ruler of Avatar
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[URL="http://forums.mtgnews.com/showthread.php?t=175642"]The Realm for creative minds!!![/URL]
[url="/forums/outside-magic/clans/retired-clan-threads/443595-the-ard-is-back-on-track"]The Ard is back on track[/url]*
[url="/forums/outside-magic/clans/retired-clan-threads/443645-ard-is-alive-and-decking"]ARD is Alive and Decking[/url]*
[thread=12179][ARD] v3.0: The Revenge of the Rogue[/thread]*
[thread=21213][ARD] Thread 4: Killing three just wasn't enough.[/thread]*
[thread=21213][ARD] Thread 5: Who's Coming to the Block Party?[/thread]*
[thread=52196][ARD] Today's Rogue Deck is Tomorrow's Net Deck[/thread]*
[thread=97893]A H[ARD] Stone Rain's a-Gonna Fall...[/thread]*
[thread=120563]Breaking the C[ARD]s You Wouldn't Touch (And We Still Win)[/thread]*
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Update 10/13/09 -- Cleaned up the code for the clan thread, edited to show Dragoon26 as the clan rep instead of Seratonin. Changed clunky [url] tags to [thread] tags to clean everything up.
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
We have 6 decks
in 5 different color combinations
in 4 different formats
3 vesuva
4 cloudpost
13 Plains
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Starlit Sanctum
//Enchantments
4 Faith Fetters
3 Oblivion Ring
1 Sacred Mesa
1 Runed Halo
//Spells
2 Sunlance
1 Final Judgement
2 Hallowed Burial
1 Austere Command
1 Reciprocate
3 Proclamation of Rebirth
1 Path to Exile
3 Eternal Dragon
1 Crovax, Ascendant Hero
4 Martyr of Sands
1 True Believer
2 Daru Spiritualist
//Artifacts
3 Shuko
4 Guilded Light
4 Glowrider
3 Defense Grid
1 Sacred Ground
1 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Aura of Silence
1 Reverence
3 shelldock isles
17 islands
2 reliquary tower
4 plumeveil
4 Twincast
4 sanity grinding
4 cryptic command
4 boomerang
4 broken ambitions
3 dream fracture
4 evacuation
3 jace beleren
4 howling mine
4 sunken ruins
4 secluded glen
1 shelldock isle
13 island
Creatures
4 plumeveil
4 godhead of awe
1 oona, queen of the fae
Combo
4 Twincast
4 sanity grinding
4 cryptic command
3 boomerang
3 agony warp
3 dream fracture
2 broken ambitions
2 evacuation
1 jace beleren
3 ponder
3 gather specimen
2 vendillion clique
1 agony warp
3 infest
3 negate
1 evacuation
1 jace beleren
1 broken ambitions
1 Bladewing the risen
Creatures
1 Changeling Berserker
1 Moonglove Changeling
1 Twisted Abomination
1 Death-head Buzzard
1 Kulrath Knight
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Vulshok Sorcerer
1 Chartooth Cougar
1 Manaforge Cinder
1 Augur of Skulls
1 Shriekmaw
1 Bladewing's Thrall
1 Withered Wretch
1 Junun Efreet
1 Dragonspeaker Shaman
1 Demigod of Revenge
1 Gathan Raiders
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Reckless Wurm
1 Erg Raiders
1 Ball lightning
1 Taurean Mauler
1 Bogarden Hellkite
1 Shivan Dragon
1 Rathi Dragon
1 Two-Headed Dragon
1 Flameblast Dragon
1 Volcanic Dragon
1 Thunder Dragon
1 Dragon Whelp
1 Furnace Whelp
1 Malfegor
1 Lotus Bloom
1 Dragonstorm
1 Shared Animosity
1 Terror
1 Decree of Pain
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Dragon Shadow
1 Dragon Breath
1 Conspiracy
1 Torrent of Souls
1 Executioner's Capsule
1 Crucible of Fire
1 Zombify
1 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Lash Out
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Dark Ritual
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Damnation
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Mana Geyser
1 Sieze the Day
1 Stitch Together
1 Soul Reap
1 Torrent of Fire
1 Terminate
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 AEther Vial
1 Pyrostatic Pillar (why not?)
1 Flaring Pain
1 Bituminous Blast
1 Rend Flesh
1 Nameless Inversion
1 Barbarian Ring
1 City of Brass
1 Ghost Quarters
1 Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper
1 Vivid Crag
1 Sulfurous Spring
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Auntie's Hovel
1 Graven Cairns
1 Jund Panorama
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Grixis Panorama
1 Spinerock Knoll
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
10 Mountain
10 Swamp
4 ad nauseum
4 seismic assault
Getting there
3 shock
4 tarfire
4 shard volley
3 mogg fanatic
4 Figure of destiny
4 graven cairns
4 auntie's hovel
4 sulferous springs
3 ghitu encampment
3 mutavault
3 reflecting pool
13 mountain
4 terror
2 smash to smithereens
2 banefire
4 shadowfeed
3 guttural response
11 Plains
11 Swamp
//Creatures
4 Blind Hunter
4 Nightsky mimic
4 Mourning Thrull
4 Nip Gwillion
2 Putrid Warrior
4 Edge of the Divinity
4 Pillory of the sleepless
//Spells
4 Castigate
4 Dark Ritual
4 Unmake
4 Duress
3 Holy Light
4 Mana Tithe
4 Beckon Apparition
Updated 4/19/09
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
So yea... new thread! wooo!
How's the clan contest going?
EDIT: the title seems so nerdy, not that that is a bad thing.
Oh and you people are welcome to change the front page introduction when we make new threads. That was just something horrible I typed up when this clan was very much inactive.
Did anyone see the Beatles song and Bob Dylan song quoted there
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The only deck I'm playing right now is Swans [and I'm not even really playing it - no time] without Cryptic Commands and with Wheel of Sun and Moon ... not so rogue.
I bought a pair of JBL Platinum computer speakers for $1 at a Garage Sale!!! They're REALLY AWESOME.
I think my computer setup is done to my satisfaction now [though a second monitor would always be a good thing ... no place to put it really, though].
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
In other news: Sen Triplets *drools* I'm sucking up my wallet and going to make a Super Charged Esper deck even if it kills me.
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I'm more than willing to use trek character nicknames. The only problem would be deciding who is who. And everyone will probably want to be Spock.
I'm glad we got a new thread earlier than Sunday.
Sen Triplets resembles mindslaver too much for me. But I can think of many cards to use with them right off the top of my head
And they all are extended legal. Although in the extended environment you have deal with some really crazy artifact destruction, like ancient grudge or shattering spree. I hope that helps though Seratonin.
There has been a lot of cards spoiled today. I'll post more about my opinion of them later.
Trekkie nicknames is fine with me, although I will probably will not participate. I don't know the trek universe that well. To be perfectly honest, I pulled that quote off of YTMND.
Also, deck library updated.
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
It's really funny that I know what card you are thinking about. That card happens to be my favorite of the ones revealed so far.
I just LOVE this set so far. In between Lord of Exinction and Enigma Sphinx, this set is nothing but awesome. I've been thinking about Meddling Mage, and I like the idea of it coming back more now. Because I play rogue decks, it will be hard for my opponent to know what card to name.
I'll post a deck sometime soon. I want to see what else is in Reborn before I stick to a deck idea. I will post an improved version of the Doran EDH Deck sooner though.
EDIT: Seratonin, when do we get our card for the endurance contest.
All other clan activities are put on hold until we figure out how to make a deck around Scion of the Ur-Dragon.
Obviously, we need a 5 color base, and all 10 of the tricolored Dragons, but what else my friends, what else?!
Winner of the First and Fourth Double Dare Single Elimination Contests
2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
Double Dare That Designer: The 2nd Single Elimination Contest
Well, here are the decks that I play
Ext: Stupid Clerics
2 Sunlance
3 vesuva
4 cloudpost
3 eternal dragon
13 Plains
1 Crovax, Ascendant Hero
4 Martyr of Sands
1 Final Judgement
2 Hallowed Burial
3 Oblivion Ring
1 True Believer
1 Austere Command
1 Reciprocate
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Sacred Mesa
1 Runed Halo
3 Proclamation of Rebirth
2 Daru Spiritualist
3 Shuko
4 Starlit Sanctum
1 Path to Exile
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Glowrider
3 Defense Grid
1 Sacred Ground
1 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Aura of Silence
1 Reverence
Even when I'm trying to quit the daru+shuko combo as it's usually enough with martyr, I'm still don't have a lot of cards that should go in these decks, thus making it still pretty rogue, but it has good matchups against almost everything (though very long and boring matchups).
Pauper Dark Skies
11 Swamp
4 Blind Hunter
4 Nightsky mimic
4 Unmake
4 Mourning Thrull
4 Nip Gwillion
4 Edge of the Divinity
2 Putrid Warrior
4 Pillory of the sleepless
4 Castigate
4 Dark Ritual
3 Holy Light
4 Mana Tithe
4 Beckon Apparition
I'm not very fond of the card we got. Five colors is a very big turnoff for me. Frankly I would just try to make a pitch deck with it, but there aren't enough good pitch cards in extended. The only pitch creature is Allosaurus Rider, who pitches too many cards, and doesn't work well in a landless deck (which is what a pitch deck would be).
We should only use one of each dragon card. The scion is tutor so that is all we would need. First of all, I HIGHLY suggest using Bladewing the Risen. Scion puts dragons in your graveyard and Bladewing brings them back. I also suggest Eternal Dragon, but not as highly. The dragon star cycle would also be good. Our opponent plays a spell to kill the scion, so you use his ability to get Keiga, the Tide Star; Yosei, the Morning Star; or Kukosho, the Evening Star (the rest of the cycle is no good). A single Nicol Bolas to cripple the opponent when our guy goes unblocked. Really, taking 7 and discarding your hand can be devastating. A couple Hellkite Overlords, so that when we play the scion, he can attack for 8 that turn. Dragon Mage is also a very good choice. His ability would give us a fresh new hand. Dragon Tyrant swings for twelve, so he would be good too.
I'm thinking it should be a reanimation deck. Teneb, the Harvester and Bladewing the Risen would both be good cards for that. But most of all, I suggest Patriarch's Bidding for that deck. It can return a graveyard full of dragons to play. Possibly including more than one Kukosho (I love Kukosho:love:) That is all for now. I'll post more at a later time, when it isn't at night.
EDIT: It's morning now, so I'll rant more.
Our deck is going to have some serious mana problems. Extended is fast, zoo drops 3/3s and 2/3 for one mana, faeries will counter everything, affinity completely overruns people (not like people play it anymore), Elves combos on turn three or four. So, We NEED acceleration. I suggest Chalice of the Void to slow down fast decks. A chalice for one will COMPLETELY shutdown elves (seriously, I practically lol whenever it happens). Engineered Explosives is also a good choice. Most people will sideboard artifact destruction though. BTW, a Chalice of the void for 1 will not stop a shattering spree. This what would happen, they play shattering spree replicating once. spree triggers the chalice, and chalice counters it. But, the copy is never played, and so it doesn't trigger the chalice, and then it goes boom.
-is good with Bladewing, the Risen.
-Activates Coalition Victory (This is why I played it in TSP block! :P)
-Can fetch changelings to fetch with the also 5-cc Horde of Notions or with Haakon, Strongald's Scourge.
-Is a 4/4 flyer if all else fails?
-Can play nice in a 5cc reanimator?
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Looking at that a renanimation/mana ramp deck with dragons is probably our best bet. I want to keep this focused on dragons and having a toolbox of them will be cool, and the ones I just listed are legendary, so we have room for more. And of course, we need Dragon Soul Knight and Dragonspeaker Shaman for our early game.
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00 Vivid Creek
00 Vivid Meadow
00 Vivid Craig
00 Vivid Grove
00 Reflecting Pool
00 City of Brass
00 Exotic Orchid
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This was meant to be posted a while ago, I just didn't hit the post button T_T
What gametype (Extended, Vintage, Legacy) is this contest built around? I was thinking that we could go with Conflux/Dream Halls to get some big dudes into play fast if we are going with the vintage card pool.
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
Rakdos Pit Dragon, Furnace Whelpand dragon whelp are also dragons that come a bit earlier than average, taurean mauler could be an interesting choice as well. And every time I see Quicksilver dragonthe more I think it would be better to avoid removal.
Also goryo's vengeance is the best reanimator in extended for our deck since it will have so many legendaries.
I say no to Jugan. Malfegor is a bit iffy to me also. Why not Hellkite Overlord, Nicol Bolas, or dragon tyrant? They all allow Scion of the Ur-Dragon to swing for cevastating amounts of damage. Overlord for the haste, Nicol Bolas for the hand kill, Dragon Tyrant for the double strike. Maybe Blazing Shoal is a good choice too. Also, Gifts Ungiven?
Okay for the early game we should use
I think we should probably try to be defensive early game. The only changelings worth playing are Taurean Mauler, which is an automatic 4 of, and chameleon colossus. Some of the cards are iffy, so I put a "?" next to them.
And the more cards we look up, the more obvious is that we're going to have a lot of self induced discard. I like Malfegor because it doubles as creating reanimation fodder as well as removal. I think we have an awesome late game with the PC wedge Dragons, Scion, and Bladewing. However, we should figure out the relative ammount of cards we want.
With a regular sixty card deck with a fairly high mana curve, and a five color based, we probably want at least 24 lands with 26 creature and 10 other assorted cards. Of course, most of the deck will consist of a dragon style tool box...
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2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
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Channel the suns.
Also, Fist of suns?
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
8 Vivid Lands
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Forest
4 Swamp
4 Island
2 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Kher Keep
4 Fertile Growth
3 Nameless Inversion
1 Crib Swap
3 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Careful Consideration
3 Makeshift Mannequin
3 Haakon, Stromgald's Scourge
1 Bladewing the Risen
1 Intet, the Dreamer
1 Teneb, the Harvester
1 Nicol Bolas
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
Obviously this decklist is pretty bad, but ... err ... you get the idea, right?
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I pooped the manabase out because I don't know what lands are in Extended, heh. Got to the '8 lands/4 pools' part, then threw random cards there.
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Sam, that's a start. We could do a lot better though. Vivids may be useful, although I think that stuff like City of Brass, Gemstone Mine, and Grand Coliseum are a better bet. Either that or we could go with fetches and Shocks, which seems like the popular way to do it these days.
Legacy: WUB Doomsday
Standard: WUB Reanimator
Did I just get rickrolled?
So I don't think come into play dragons work well with Scion of the Ur-Dragon. The Kamigawa, leave play dragons are great though. Yea I admit that this card is hard to build around. But hey, we are ARD, right?
I like sam's decklist, except for the mana base.