10 € are worth about 12 $, so I'm quite surprised that the card turns out to be so cheap in the states!
Over here in Germany, you have to pay at least 5 € for one. And that's on ebay. In a online cardshop it is offered for 10, but I think I'll just have to search on american ebay.
Besides my friends worldgorger deck useing him as a win condition I have never seen him played.
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Nothing that great in Xth yet, though you should watch Deathmark. If Lorwynn is as green as it sounds, then 1 cc kill is always good.
Agree'd. Besides that it just seems like everything else just got tossed on there. Royal assasin is fun in casual since you can kill off their attackers but as for competetive nothing on that list makes me excited.
Kind of reminding me what happened to blue in 9th, except blue was still a tournament worthy color.
Agree'd. Besides that it just seems like everything else just got tossed on there. Royal assasin is fun in casual since you can kill off their attackers but as for competetive nothing on that list makes me excited.
Kind of reminding me what happened to blue in 9th, except blue was still a tournament worthy color.
A buddy of mine was gonna try that once. 4 stones are hard to draw compaired and a wrath makes you auto scoop.
Sadly black needs things like steady discard, efficent removal, and critters worth playing to hav any kind of type 2 archtype become viable in major tournaments. We had some succsess with MBC but that is weighed heavily on the shoulders of us getting a desent sweeper (cause white had one) and getting something to jack up their deck (extirpate is awsome). I'd love nothig more than to see cabal coffers in 10th but sadly it enables things wizards has decided shouldn't exist (mainly good black decks).
This can't be serious, can it?
Why should white become even more powerful?
It's in speculation dawn, it's ok there, unless it comes back in 10th, then I'll be posting the links to write Aaron and Mark.
In clan related discussion, Svogthir I think it's time we make up some titles or something for the senior members. Either a legion of doom thing where there is a set number of titles we can become or just random thing's thought up by them but something to we've come a long way from being just a few players interested in playing black decks.
Black Dawn: I christen thee as the Scion of Corruption.
Juggles: I christen thee as the Lord of Destruction.
So sayeth the Evincar.
All so we are on our 31 page and are at 450 post. I think it is time to start a new thread. Thoughts?
Howd you know baal is my favorite primeval in diablo? And i'm all for it, almost 500 posts and wo knows, a new thread might bring back some of the older members who have been mia in the thread.
Also they have put up the number crunched spoiler.
You both can put that in your sigs. Also, Juggles, I am bestowing upon you the title of #1 member of Clan Mono-Black. You have been with us since the begining and have stuck it out when even I thought the clan was dead. Congrats, you earned it!
One last thing: I put out PMs to many of our non-posting members, essentially saying that they need to renew their membership by actually adding to the thread. Because of this some of them will have their membership revoked. Their names will be put into the "Past Members and Friends" section of the first post. Hopefully this will renew intrest in some of our older members, and for those who get kicked out please remove the "proud member of Clan Mono-Black" from their sigs.
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Also, Juggles, I am bestowing upon you the title of #1 member of Clan Mono-Black. You have been with us since the begining and have stuck it out when even I thought the clan was dead. Congrats, you earned it!
That's going in my sigas soon as I can save it, and might I say it's about time we actually acted like a clan and demanded our members act like, well, members.
In anycase I'm holding off my rants til the new thread and I'm guessing you set a deadline for them, after that I guess it's time for thread two of clan mono-black.
They have until the next the start of the next thread to respond either here or in a PM to me and I will start the new thread as soon as wendsday if we have a name. Hopefully once we get it up and running we will get serious and possibly compete in clan games. I really don't know a thing about them, so Juggles could you look into that for us? In the mean time possible thread name: [Clan Mono-Black] the only clan endorsed by Evil Lincoln! (it's a start )
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They have until the next the start of the next thread to respond either here or in a PM to me and I will start the new thread as soon as wendsday if we have a name. Hopefully once we get it up and running we will get serious and possibly compete in clan games. I really don't know a thing about them, so Juggles could you look into that for us? In the mean time possible thread name: [Clan Mono-Black] the only clan endorsed by Evil Lincoln! (it's a start )
I think clan games have already started but I will look in to it right away. As for a name endorsed by evil lincoln is good, bizaro ghandi might be better though.
Yeah, here comes Mr. passive resistance coming right at yah!
Far to passive, bizzaro ghandi is all about violent resistance, bats with chains nailed to them with rusty jagged nails and razor wire soaked in gasolin wrapped around that. He isn't very pleasent, an excellent spokesmen for the clan.
I'm here to "renew" my membership. As much as I'd rather not be booted from a clan, especially by Svogthir, keep in mind that I have other things to do besides posting of mtgsalvation.com. I've recently got a pretty busy job, and even though college is out for the summer, that doesn't mean I have oodles of time to spend of these forums. Sure, I'll remain active to the clan when a topic of interest arises, but I won't be threatened to comply in the face of expulsion.
With this said, 10th edition is looking pretty meh in terms of black cards. Nekretaal is ok, not exactly a tournament staple but we could do worse. Relentless Rats is pretty dumb, as any said deck with them involved cries in the face of mass removal or a little favorite of mine called Extirpate. Even our legend, Ascendant Evincar, is subpar to his Planar Chaos twin. Also, to add to your list, we have comfirmed art for Diabolic Tutor, so throw that in there. But as for speculation of our 2nd legend in 10th, what are some ideas? Here's hoping it'll be a tournament worthwhile card. While we're at it, some threads on the rumor mill have begun discussing Nantuko Shade as well, and I pray every night he'll make a comeback.
Oh, and lastly, and not to demean Juggles or anything, but perhaps our #1 member of clan mono black should not have the "My Color is Red!" banner in his signature. Just throwing that out there.
Greets, all. I'm also sorta here to "renew" my friendship with this clan, although I haven't been, and don't imagine on being, quite active on the MtGS forums. Like anyway, life is hectic, and my first priority is work, as many would understand.
Perhaps I should completely retire as a friend to this clan. Perhaps.
Also, I haven't been around anything Magicky recently - well, aside from these forums. That being said, I have taken some time to check out what's in store for black in Tenth Edition, and it looks like it'll be a rather powerful core set.
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I think clan games have already started but I will look in to it right away. As for a name endorsed by evil lincoln is good, bizaro ghandi might be better though.
Yes, I believe they have. Currently, it's some Mafia thing.
hey everyone...sorry for my absence, as I've been attending to school, work, and the girlfriend. But, SUMMER IS OFFICIALLY HERE!! and my time with Salvation should increase...Im currently playtesting a dirty snow deck (Black w/ Snow for Mouth of Ronom vs. Teferi), and its turning out pretty good. If anyone wants to see the list, LMK...until then, keep rockin' on, and I'll be around, yet again. Thank you for your patience, and thanks, Svogthir...
So far a couple of you seem to be takeing this the wrong way. Truth is we need to maintain 6 members to even be a clan, and many members have poped in, asked to join, and never posted again, or join, say something two or three times, and then drift off never to return again. This is just to let every one know that hey, its head count time, say here or you'll be marked absent. We all have work, and magic isn't always a constant in every ones lives, I myself haven't been able to play in a real tournament for a couple months and have been doing 40+ hour weeks and being called in on mydays off however I still pop in and check in on the clan I joined, and really asking those who have signed up to mearly pop in ever so often isn't asking alot, even a "hey all, been busy with ____ but wanted to check in and say hey. later" is alot better than nothing.
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Oh, and lastly, and not to demean Juggles or anything, but perhaps our #1 member of clan mono black should not have the "My Color is Red!" banner in his signature. Just throwing that out there.
Seeing as how when I took the test it came up red it'd be weird for me to have that. Black is the color I enjoy playing, however if you ever meet me you'd see clearly that my attitude is very red. This doesn't take away from my love of black in anyway. In anycase red is an ally of black and rakdos is an ally of this clan so I see no harm in it either way but since you brought it up and I can see it being seen as some what of a contradiction to demand more power be put in black and have a banner saying I'm red I'll change it. My avatar is hellfire incase anyone was wondering, it was an early black board sweeper, kinda bad but awsome art.
EDIT: F!r38@11 this is mearly a member round up and head count before we start a new thread. We are proud to have the cult of rakdos as our ally and thanks for the post. I don't think svogthir wants to lose any allies and the ones we have are appriciated.
Well, if it counts for anything, I'll gladly be a friend of a clan that champions the only true color.
Not much of a fan of joining clans, but who knows...
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@svoghtir: thanks for the cool title!
But wouldn't titles in "7 deadly sins"-style be better?
There are:
Sloth, envy, greed, pride, wrath, gluttony and lust. (Listed just in case you didn't know)
@tyler: if they bring back Natuko Shade, one of us will have to sacrifice a lamb
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
I've already killed off a couple lambs this week, but that had nothing to do with Nantuko Shade. But if you look at it, the shade being in 10th kinda makes sense. It's not a horribly complex card, and not that much different from Looming Shade in 9th edition. It would remain a rare, of course, and it would be a lot less powerful in this Cabal Coffers-less environment (Magus of the Coffers is not Cabal Coffers.), so it would actually make some sense to put this guy in a core set. Here's hoping he is, because my mono black control could use another 2 drop.
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
To all who have receved a PM form me, it is because we are taking a census of our members. We are all have lives outside of MtgSalvation, but if you don't post or participate, you can't really think you are still a member. If you look at the first post, there are quite a few who have let their membership slip and they are no longer with us.
Now that I have that off my chest, We need a thread name and someone to head up the clan games. Ideas?
Black Dawn: In all truth, I got your name from your banner.
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Shade is very basic (part of what makes him so good) but sadly we don't have coffers so I fear it will become much like hyppie in 9th, awsome but ultimately nowhere near it's former glory, but still a win condition is a win condition and a critter that can become as big as the number of swamps we have is still nothing to shabby.
Names, as you can see from my user name, those aren't my stong suite but just throwing some idea's out:
Broadcasting from deep in the fens/bog/coffers/mephidross/urborg/ect, [Clan mono-Black]
Your sisters prom date, [Clan Mono-Black]
[Clan Mono-Black], more frightening than a loan shark with a sledge hammer
Lastly: And you will know us by the piles of the dead. [Clan Mono-Black]
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Besides my friends worldgorger deck useing him as a win condition I have never seen him played.
Agree'd. Besides that it just seems like everything else just got tossed on there. Royal assasin is fun in casual since you can kill off their attackers but as for competetive nothing on that list makes me excited.
Kind of reminding me what happened to blue in 9th, except blue was still a tournament worthy color.
I just want it to complete my collection of nightmares to build a Chainer theme deck, so you could call me a Vorthos.:D
You`re right. But since Relentless Rats is coming back in Xth, how about building a Thrumming Stone/Relentless Rats combo deck?
Wise words:
A buddy of mine was gonna try that once. 4 stones are hard to draw compaired and a wrath makes you auto scoop.
Sadly black needs things like steady discard, efficent removal, and critters worth playing to hav any kind of type 2 archtype become viable in major tournaments. We had some succsess with MBC but that is weighed heavily on the shoulders of us getting a desent sweeper (cause white had one) and getting something to jack up their deck (extirpate is awsome). I'd love nothig more than to see cabal coffers in 10th but sadly it enables things wizards has decided shouldn't exist (mainly good black decks).
This can't be serious, can it?
Why should white become even more powerful?
Wise words:
It's in speculation dawn, it's ok there, unless it comes back in 10th, then I'll be posting the links to write Aaron and Mark.
In clan related discussion, Svogthir I think it's time we make up some titles or something for the senior members. Either a legion of doom thing where there is a set number of titles we can become or just random thing's thought up by them but something to we've come a long way from being just a few players interested in playing black decks.
Juggles: I christen thee as the Lord of Destruction.
So sayeth the Evincar.
All so we are on our 31 page and are at 450 post. I think it is time to start a new thread. Thoughts?
Howd you know baal is my favorite primeval in diablo? And i'm all for it, almost 500 posts and wo knows, a new thread might bring back some of the older members who have been mia in the thread.
Also they have put up the number crunched spoiler.
Black
127. Ascendant Evincar
128.
129.
130. Deathmark
131.
132.
133.
134.
135.
136.
137.
138.
139.
140.
141.
142.
143. Graveborn Muse
144.
145.
146.
147.
148.
149.
150.
151. Knight of Dusk
152.
153.
154. Lord of the Pit
155.
156.
157.
158.
159.
160. Mass of Ghouls
161.
162. Nantuko Husk
163. Nekrataal
164.
165.
166.
167.
168.
169.
170.
171. Recover
172. Relentless Rats
173. Royal Assassin
174.
175. Sengir Vampire
176.
177.
178.
179.
180.
181.
182.
183.
184.
185.
186. Vampire Bats
187.
188.
189.
Nothing new but we can atleast see that they can fill out the rest with ood stuff, or we can atleast hope.
One last thing: I put out PMs to many of our non-posting members, essentially saying that they need to renew their membership by actually adding to the thread. Because of this some of them will have their membership revoked. Their names will be put into the "Past Members and Friends" section of the first post. Hopefully this will renew intrest in some of our older members, and for those who get kicked out please remove the "proud member of Clan Mono-Black" from their sigs.
That's going in my sigas soon as I can save it, and might I say it's about time we actually acted like a clan and demanded our members act like, well, members.
In anycase I'm holding off my rants til the new thread and I'm guessing you set a deadline for them, after that I guess it's time for thread two of clan mono-black.
I think clan games have already started but I will look in to it right away. As for a name endorsed by evil lincoln is good, bizaro ghandi might be better though.
Far to passive, bizzaro ghandi is all about violent resistance, bats with chains nailed to them with rusty jagged nails and razor wire soaked in gasolin wrapped around that. He isn't very pleasent, an excellent spokesmen for the clan.
With this said, 10th edition is looking pretty meh in terms of black cards. Nekretaal is ok, not exactly a tournament staple but we could do worse. Relentless Rats is pretty dumb, as any said deck with them involved cries in the face of mass removal or a little favorite of mine called Extirpate. Even our legend, Ascendant Evincar, is subpar to his Planar Chaos twin. Also, to add to your list, we have comfirmed art for Diabolic Tutor, so throw that in there. But as for speculation of our 2nd legend in 10th, what are some ideas? Here's hoping it'll be a tournament worthwhile card. While we're at it, some threads on the rumor mill have begun discussing Nantuko Shade as well, and I pray every night he'll make a comeback.
Oh, and lastly, and not to demean Juggles or anything, but perhaps our #1 member of clan mono black should not have the "My Color is Red!" banner in his signature. Just throwing that out there.
Akuma will wreck you.
Perhaps I should completely retire as a friend to this clan. Perhaps.
Also, I haven't been around anything Magicky recently - well, aside from these forums. That being said, I have taken some time to check out what's in store for black in Tenth Edition, and it looks like it'll be a rather powerful core set.
Yes, I believe they have. Currently, it's some Mafia thing.
Anyhow, hi all.:)
Seeing as how when I took the test it came up red it'd be weird for me to have that. Black is the color I enjoy playing, however if you ever meet me you'd see clearly that my attitude is very red. This doesn't take away from my love of black in anyway. In anycase red is an ally of black and rakdos is an ally of this clan so I see no harm in it either way but since you brought it up and I can see it being seen as some what of a contradiction to demand more power be put in black and have a banner saying I'm red I'll change it. My avatar is hellfire incase anyone was wondering, it was an early black board sweeper, kinda bad but awsome art.
EDIT: F!r38@11 this is mearly a member round up and head count before we start a new thread. We are proud to have the cult of rakdos as our ally and thanks for the post. I don't think svogthir wants to lose any allies and the ones we have are appriciated.
Not much of a fan of joining clans, but who knows...
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But wouldn't titles in "7 deadly sins"-style be better?
There are:
Sloth, envy, greed, pride, wrath, gluttony and lust. (Listed just in case you didn't know)
@tyler: if they bring back Natuko Shade, one of us will have to sacrifice a lamb
Wise words:
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
Akuma will wreck you.
nevertheless, at least graveborn muse is back, semi-decent replacement for dark confidant post ravinca
edit:@tyler:true, without fast mana, nantuko shade becomes nullified, just as hippie has...
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
Well, I could imagine "Demon of Greed" or something like that.
But if Svoghtir is fine with the titles he gave, I'll be fine with it, too
Now that I actually read what I had in mind, it sounds kind of awkward.
I guess we'll stay with the names svoghtir gave
Wise words:
Now that I have that off my chest, We need a thread name and someone to head up the clan games. Ideas?
Black Dawn: In all truth, I got your name from your banner.
Names, as you can see from my user name, those aren't my stong suite but just throwing some idea's out:
Broadcasting from deep in the fens/bog/coffers/mephidross/urborg/ect, [Clan mono-Black]
Your sisters prom date, [Clan Mono-Black]
[Clan Mono-Black], more frightening than a loan shark with a sledge hammer
Lastly: And you will know us by the piles of the dead. [Clan Mono-Black]