I wish I could play champs this year, but i'm just getting back into Magic and don't have the cards to build my deck unfortunately. I'll be rooting for all my fellow Mono-Black players though. I think the deck has potential in Standard, and if Wizards does us right. We'll get alot of goodies in Feb.
And yes, no incantatrix for you. Or anyone. That class makes puppies cry. Mostly because they are the former Big Bads who have been Baleful Polymorphed into said puppies. By you. Because you're an incantatrix.
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Yeah, I don't see her handling a pissing match in any way other than a duel.
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I suppose it's true. Though the logistics implied in a human/Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon pairing makes me shudder.
...Something tells me that even should all arcane casters in the world unite, that the Grease spell would NOT be sufficient.
Blue means countermagic, and that means that my spells don't resolve. My spells not resolving means that I want to reach across the table and smack the living crap out of the blue mage.
And yes, no incantatrix for you. Or anyone. That class makes puppies cry. Mostly because they are the former Big Bads who have been Baleful Polymorphed into said puppies. By you. Because you're an incantatrix.
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This is Deraxas we're talking about.
Remember, the girl that just killed an aspect of herself before literally consuming her?
Yeah, I don't see her handling a pissing match in any way other than a duel.
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Yes mistress...
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There are only so many epic, psuedonatural barbarian/blackguard half-dragon akutenshai vampire balor paragons they can throw at you, right?
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I suppose it's true. Though the logistics implied in a human/Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon pairing makes me shudder.
...Something tells me that even should all arcane casters in the world unite, that the Grease spell would NOT be sufficient.
Sweet banner PurpleD Many thanks from every one in the clan.
Any one going to the pheonix champs? I'm hopeing to take MBA but R/B burner might also be a possability. Really anything with swamps in it I'm considering to take right now, but really wanna stop splashing.
And I'm with Aok: My spells don't resolve=I'm wanting to target you and your frikin islands for a beating (no offense to our buddies in dimir, I just hate counter spells).
Your list isn't horrible- there are things that I would change about it, but it's not as bad as you thought. Avatar of Woe isn't too bad in an aggro meta, because if you have enough kill, eventually you'll be able to cast her for BB...and a 6/6 creature-nerfing guy with fear is pretty nice for two mana. Nightshade Assassin is an awesome card...Nekrataal's brother, somewhat improved, as I vastly prefer -x/-x effects over kill that can possibly be regenerated. It has first strike as well, which is pretty nice.
Withered Wretch serves multiple purposes- in a creature-based deck, why not maindeck him? He screws over Reanimator and Firemane...not to mention Dredge or anything else that likes to play in its graveyard. I don't like Urborg Syphon-Mage outside of Limited- it's card disadvantage, a waste of a creature, and if you really want to drain for two, there's some card from the Rav block that does it for three mana.
I'm split on Demonic Collusion. On first glance, it seems abusable, but you don't really carry the card advantage needed to abuse its buyback. I'd actually rather run Infernal Tutor, myself.
You could always go the Phthisis route- but I can't pronounce it, so I don't play it:p . I like its effect.
For a type of Wrath effect, you could always keep in the Syphon Mage and use Living End...just don't discard or kill any of your opponent's guys. I think that would be hilarious.
Skulking Knight is actually a decent card, also, because chances are if they are targeting it, it's probably going to die from it anyway. If they're wasting pump spells to kill your guys, that's pump spells not being used on their guys to beat your face in.
As for my expertise in Standard, mono black is pretty much the same no matter what format you play it in. My Legacy deck uses many cards that are recent..and they improve it to no end. (Staff of Domination + Helldozer FTW!)
Last thing: I curse WotC for not timeshifting Mutilate.
Why thank you AoK.:) Yeah, it's grim times for black players, now that there isn't a mass-removal/mass -X/-X spell.:(
Many of you have said that you wished that WotC had printed something on par with Mutilate, so what would have you people been pleased with?
Mutilate, in my opinion, isn't that great, because it's essentially only viable in Mono-Black. I'd just like it to be "Creatures get -X/-X, where X is the number of lands you control.", then it'd be more splashable in splash-black decks.
Mutilate, in my opinion, isn't that great, because it's essentially only viable in Mono-Black. I'd just like it to be "Creatures get -X/-X, where X is the number of lands you control.", then it'd be more splashable in splash-black decks.
If you wanna run a mono black control deck (something I'm sure we'd all like to do) mutilate is your wrath. Which is why we all love it. I got a deck full of swamps, so hey mutilate for atleast -4/-4. That is unless you dropped coffers turn 4, then -3/-3 is the minimum.
Really for the color that doesn't always get great card draw (arena and bob are the best we have had for a while) and the diminished power they have given our spot removal (go read the wizards article about how they want to push regeneration if you don't know what I'm talking about, I think MaRo wrote it a couple weeks ago) you'd think a board sweeper would be an obvious addition to the set to atleast give a little support for control. I mean white gets wrath every core and a playable fatty in almost every block (Mirrodin was broken, nthing worth mentioning there, yosei in kami, a whole host of W/x in RAV which I guess I can't count, valkerie in coldsnap, and akroma in TS and onslaught) so why can't we have a mutilate to go with out skeletal vamps and avatars?
of course. people fear what they can't see and can't predict. i've played many a game against a blue mage where i would just wait to play a spell, because i knew he was holding at least one counterspell...now, against mono-black decks, you don't run into that. who knows *what* is going to drop...even in T2 there are a multitude of things to be scared of.
Blue mages sucks but hey WoTC is just afraid of black mages.All the best cards are in black...I don't remember Counterspell being banned,and we all know what happened to Dark Ritual
I will agree!
I hope so much that like lightning bolt coming back in the form of rift bolt we can get a suspend for 1 turn dark ritual then we'll have the ultimate power!:evillol:
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@ sakrafyce - yeah, it's intentionally indistinct...i was thinking 'mysterious'...but i'm also colorblind, so i might be seeing things a bit differently than they are.
Now a short explanation:
The idea is to stall the board with removal and sudden spoiling. Cycle abominations and/or cast smallpox discarding a large creature and reanimating it with dred return, which can be flashbacked once you have an active vampire which also serves as a defense against aggro. If you don't pull of some kind of reanimation trick early on you can still go for the normal MBC strategy of kill, kill, kill some more and then win with something.
This deck hasn't been tested. But I'd be interested in what you think of it.
I like how the storage land works so well with consume spirit and lone reanimation spell is a nice touch most wouldn't expect. Only thing I don't like is besides smallpox your not running any discard. Really a persecute and blackmail can stop them in their tracks or slow them down long enough for you to pull a win out.
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Echoareone, Thanks for the banner! It looks pretty sweet. I'll probably add that to our banner archives in a sec
Here's my unbelievably mean, but not tourney legal take on MBA:
right now, I'm running a mostly mono-black with a touch of red for char and rise//fall
but once I get the cards I'll get a full on mono colored deck going, probably suicide.
IRT totem vs. signet - i think the decision to play one over the other depends on your mana curve - if you have good 4-drops and not many 2-drops (sounds kinda like a control deck, accel into a persecute on turn 3), play the signet. in that situation, i think it's sick...i used to play golgari signets in a B/W/G deck and i regularly powered out a turn 3 rolling spoil. anyway.
however, if the most important (generally speaking) 3-drop you have is hypnotic specter and either no other of a few other 3-drops, i think the totem is good. yeah, it takes 3 mana to activate it, but if you have the land drop for next turn as well, you can activate and drop another 2-cc creature (or bad moon...or a second bad moon 0_0 )
fireball, i like it how you brought a rakdos touch to a mono-black deck...it seems impossible color-wise, but that is a really cool list. gj
Phyrexian Totem is quite broken even in a control deck. It provides access to additional black mana, it sits there looking scary when you blow your opponent's guys straight to hell, and then it beats for 5 all at the same time.
It's a NEGATOR, for God's sake.
/end Negator trip
I may end up taking MBC to States after all, providing I can find three Stupors, a Soul Spike, another Totem, and Persecutes before then. (I HAVE old Stupors...somewhere...)
The loss of Cranial Extraction pains me, though, as does the loss of Kagemaro and the Big Black Dragon.
Guys- don't run Stronghold Overseer. Run Skeletal Vampire. Seriously. It's sick.
And yes, no incantatrix for you. Or anyone. That class makes puppies cry. Mostly because they are the former Big Bads who have been Baleful Polymorphed into said puppies. By you. Because you're an incantatrix.
Quote from Yukora »
This is Deraxas we're talking about.
Remember, the girl that just killed an aspect of herself before literally consuming her?
Yeah, I don't see her handling a pissing match in any way other than a duel.
Quote from RedDwarfian »
Yes mistress...
Quote from About epic-level D&D »
There are only so many epic, psuedonatural barbarian/blackguard half-dragon akutenshai vampire balor paragons they can throw at you, right?
Quote from Concerning breeding habits of humans in fantasy games »
I suppose it's true. Though the logistics implied in a human/Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon pairing makes me shudder.
...Something tells me that even should all arcane casters in the world unite, that the Grease spell would NOT be sufficient.
Yeah, I was messing around with a control deck that just had Totems and Nether Traitors. It actually worked quite well. With Infernal Tutor you can make sure you always have your pinger, and the fattie animorphs into a rock when you aren't raping ass with him.
So can I join the clan or what? Don't keep me in suspense!
EDIT: PurpleD, that's a rather disturbing avatar. Looks like a big purple dildo. Heh.... PurpleD -ildo.
So I picked up my first Time Spiral cards today in the form of a tournament pack. (Just getting back into Magic) I have 2 booster boxes coming in tomorrow though from Starcity. My rares sucked, but I got some great Uncommons. (Smallpox, Sudden Death, Scryb Ranger)
Hey, what's up with the Pro Player card? I got Frank Karksten, are they just meant for fun? or they worth anything?
No the pro player cards arn't worth anything. they are jsut there to annoy the hell out of you. it would be nice if they actually had something to do with the game... (i.e. Vanguard?)
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Yeah, I was messing around with a control deck that just had Totems and Nether Traitors. It actually worked quite well. With Infernal Tutor you can make sure you always have your pinger, and the fattie animorphs into a rock when you aren't raping ass with him.
I love Nether Traitor. It works soooo well in Husk that it's almost disgusting. I would post my decklist, but I wouldn't want to scare Koko (avatar of Kokusho) away with the blue in it
EDIT: PurpleD, that's a rather disturbing avatar. Looks like a big purple dildo. Heh.... PurpleD -ildo.
Haha, damn right. Check out my extendo (orange-red link in sig) for the full story.
But if anyone asks, it's a crayon
No the pro player cards arn't worth anything. they are jsut there to annoy the hell out of you. it would be nice if they actually had something to do with the game... (i.e. Vanguard?)
I've burnt them, used them as coasters and made them into targets before... Too bad they dont come in foil so I could microwave them
for the time being, i'm stuck taking my MBA to FNM FTW.
...i kinda like 3-letter acronyms, as well.
T2:
Hey, at least it's not blue....
"I am in the arcane, and the arcane is in me."
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Deraxas, Dark Maiden of Shimia,, still oddly obsessed with a mindmage.
Blue means countermagic, and that means that my spells don't resolve. My spells not resolving means that I want to reach across the table and smack the living crap out of the blue mage.
"I am in the arcane, and the arcane is in me."
Official Matron Mother of Clan Planar Chaos
Awesome Avatar and signature by DarkNightCavalier
Deraxas, Dark Maiden of Shimia,, still oddly obsessed with a mindmage.
Any one going to the pheonix champs? I'm hopeing to take MBA but R/B burner might also be a possability. Really anything with swamps in it I'm considering to take right now, but really wanna stop splashing.
And I'm with Aok: My spells don't resolve=I'm wanting to target you and your frikin islands for a beating (no offense to our buddies in dimir, I just hate counter spells).
Why thank you AoK.:) Yeah, it's grim times for black players, now that there isn't a mass-removal/mass -X/-X spell.:(
Many of you have said that you wished that WotC had printed something on par with Mutilate, so what would have you people been pleased with?
Mutilate, in my opinion, isn't that great, because it's essentially only viable in Mono-Black. I'd just like it to be "Creatures get -X/-X, where X is the number of lands you control.", then it'd be more splashable in splash-black decks.
If you wanna run a mono black control deck (something I'm sure we'd all like to do) mutilate is your wrath. Which is why we all love it. I got a deck full of swamps, so hey mutilate for atleast -4/-4. That is unless you dropped coffers turn 4, then -3/-3 is the minimum.
Really for the color that doesn't always get great card draw (arena and bob are the best we have had for a while) and the diminished power they have given our spot removal (go read the wizards article about how they want to push regeneration if you don't know what I'm talking about, I think MaRo wrote it a couple weeks ago) you'd think a board sweeper would be an obvious addition to the set to atleast give a little support for control. I mean white gets wrath every core and a playable fatty in almost every block (Mirrodin was broken, nthing worth mentioning there, yosei in kami, a whole host of W/x in RAV which I guess I can't count, valkerie in coldsnap, and akroma in TS and onslaught) so why can't we have a mutilate to go with out skeletal vamps and avatars?
I'll stop complaining now.
Anyway, Echo, would you be so kind as to create banners for our allies?(Dimir and Rakdos), As tokens of our alliance and frienship.
Juggles, about mono-black board-sweepers, i'm personally hoping and praying that WotC will give us some in the next few expansions.
Btw, Just a heads up, i'll be creating the new thread soon
muahah
T2:
I will agree!
I hope so much that like lightning bolt coming back in the form of rift bolt we can get a suspend for 1 turn dark ritual then we'll have the ultimate power!:evillol:
To get bloodstains out of clothes apply hair shampoo and soak the garments in cold water for five minutes before sticking them in the wash. This lifts out the stains quite nicely.:evillol::smileup:
ok, i threw this together for our dimir friends (who really don't exist)...
i'm thinking about/working on one for rakdos currently.
T2:
T2:
I like how the storage land works so well with consume spirit and lone reanimation spell is a nice touch most wouldn't expect. Only thing I don't like is besides smallpox your not running any discard. Really a persecute and blackmail can stop them in their tracks or slow them down long enough for you to pull a win out.
Echoareone, Thanks for the banner! It looks pretty sweet. I'll probably add that to our banner archives in a sec
Here's my unbelievably mean, but not tourney legal take on MBA:
19 Swamp
2 Shizo, death's storehouse
3 Cabal coffers
(artifacts)
4 Chrome Mox
3 umezawa's Jitte
4 Hypnotic Specter
3 Kokusho, the evening star
2 Avatar of Woe
3 Wicked Akuba
3 Nantuko Shade
4 Carrion Feeder
4 Consume Spirit
4 Sickening Shoal
4 Dark Ritual
(Enchantments)
2 Necropotence
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right now, I'm running a mostly mono-black with a touch of red for char and rise//fall
but once I get the cards I'll get a full on mono colored deck going, probably suicide.
Bazaar of wonders
however, if the most important (generally speaking) 3-drop you have is hypnotic specter and either no other of a few other 3-drops, i think the totem is good. yeah, it takes 3 mana to activate it, but if you have the land drop for next turn as well, you can activate and drop another 2-cc creature (or bad moon...or a second bad moon 0_0 )
fireball, i like it how you brought a rakdos touch to a mono-black deck...it seems impossible color-wise, but that is a really cool list. gj
T2:
It's a NEGATOR, for God's sake.
/end Negator trip
I may end up taking MBC to States after all, providing I can find three Stupors, a Soul Spike, another Totem, and Persecutes before then. (I HAVE old Stupors...somewhere...)
The loss of Cranial Extraction pains me, though, as does the loss of Kagemaro and the Big Black Dragon.
Guys- don't run Stronghold Overseer. Run Skeletal Vampire. Seriously. It's sick.
"I am in the arcane, and the arcane is in me."
Official Matron Mother of Clan Planar Chaos
Awesome Avatar and signature by DarkNightCavalier
Deraxas, Dark Maiden of Shimia,, still oddly obsessed with a mindmage.
So can I join the clan or what? Don't keep me in suspense!
EDIT: PurpleD, that's a rather disturbing avatar. Looks like a big purple dildo. Heh.... PurpleD -ildo.
Hey, what's up with the Pro Player card? I got Frank Karksten, are they just meant for fun? or they worth anything?
No the pro player cards arn't worth anything. they are jsut there to annoy the hell out of you. it would be nice if they actually had something to do with the game... (i.e. Vanguard?)
I love Nether Traitor. It works soooo well in Husk that it's almost disgusting. I would post my decklist, but I wouldn't want to scare Koko (avatar of Kokusho) away with the blue in it
EDIT: PurpleD, that's a rather disturbing avatar. Looks like a big purple dildo. Heh.... PurpleD -ildo.
Haha, damn right. Check out my extendo (orange-red link in sig) for the full story.
But if anyone asks, it's a crayon
I've burnt them, used them as coasters and made them into targets before... Too bad they dont come in foil so I could microwave them
[Left Play Designs][Coffeehouse][DeviantArt]
Winner MTGS Weekly Sig/Banner Contest
Weeks: 37/85/87/94/135/159/160/226