I also remember many a time when I have been insulted by Photon
Listen, Oman, if anyone wanted the opinion of you and your industrious and yet culturally rich citizens, we would have sent an official survey to the UN, got it?
"Sup baby?"
How you doin'? *chomps bubblegum* My car has an enormous back seat, by the way...
Thank you Shazzy and Psycho! (lmao I love my nicknames for you two tooo much )
And zing, Photon, zing. Gotta love you, Photty
EDIT: And as far as my 'eloquence' i don't especially feel like I conveyed my points as clearly as I wanted to... But I hope that the points I was trying to make were somewhat understood in some degree
Listen, Oman, if anyone wanted the opinion of you and your industrious and yet culturally rich citizens, we would have sent an official survey to the UN, got it?
Can I just pay you to follow me around and diss people I don't like? Like, seriously yo.
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How you doin'? *chomps bubblegum* My car has an enormous back seat, by the way...
Hubba Hubba Nice ride.
Edit: Belated response to Photon for a post I didn't realize existed:
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I would, but I hate most of your tastes in music.
Haha! Fair enough
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We had a lot of wild schemes, too, including a failed attempt to make a man impotent through use of nonsense magical rituals, plotting the downfall of a variety of individuals, from your run of the mill high school "*****" girls to a particularly racist paraplegic, and more than one wild adventure in which several packs of bikini underwear were smuggled out of a department store in Joe's pants- he merely put a good dozen or so pairs of them on at once and if anyone questioned why he was so bulky in the drawers, he told them he was just wearing a diaper.
That's classic. I get the feeling that if our two highschool groups met, it would be almost like when two seperate adventuring parties met in D&D. They just kindof nod to eachother, and then continue on. Hehe
@Shazzy: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw.. you mean you don't like me??
And yeah, being an enchantment, I can actually tap too, y'know? And where's Ethersphere, I sense some hot man-steerin' happening under his nose
EDIT: By the way, Shazzy, its Arguas , not Argus
On more CoffeeHouse business! Just cuz i feel like it, I'm giving our dear friend KevinLiu a special for getting the 1984th post (my birth year :p), one he can finally eat now that he's over his food poisoning!
And! to Hunter44 for the 2000th post! ! Just take it easy and make sure other folks have a chance to post
@Sha: That's good Sha! You should add that you're making that kitchen dream of yours into reality. How's it going by the way? The kitchen I mean? So far i can relate with you about setting life straight. I'm setting mine straight, except that I have a few vices that I want to stop.
I have a slight fever and I'm at work and oddly enough I'm actually doing my job as proofreader. I haven't had work done in two weeks, and this is the first time that I was given a pile of work to proofread. Sigh... summer is about it end and the new school year is starting. I haven't bought my books and checked my subjects in Ateneo. I feel so not updated.
I don't know how to manage my schedule now online and offline. Usually every morning I'd wake up at 8 to post and greet everyone a good morning and check out the avatar and sig shops. Now I wake up at 8 every morning to eat breakfast and pick out a language and a set of dance steps for nursery class. At night I'd say good night and have a little chat with the British people, but now at night I go straight to bed as I get tired easily.
Oh, I forgot to mention this before, but thanks to Arguas for noticing my banner.
I always like Heath and Priscilla as a couple in FE7. I'm thinking of getting another banner in the future with Lyn and Hector. They're a very close #2.
I'm still playing through Fire Emblem, and I really like it so far. It was overly easy for a long time, but around mission 12 things started getting serious in terms of getting through unscathed. I'm on mission 17 now, and on mission 16 I accepted my first casualty, and it definitely was my worst mission. Therefore, I haven't gotten to Priscilla and Heath yet, as I only have Priscilla at this point.
OOOOH!!!!! I know this one!
To scab off of the taxpayers (us) so that they have an easy life and don't have to work... Thus is Britain.
Also, @ Hunter: Ether and Yourself aren't the only RPG players here remember?
Definitely not. Omna and I are definitely huge RPG fans, although perhaps not as much as Photon and Ethersphere. Or Alacar, even. One thing that does make this place stand out is that this place very much welcomes nerds, who are classically associated with RPG players. Very fun times.
Also, I am kind of curious about this Britain stuff that you speak of... would you care to elaborate further?
Beware, everyone. The Pokemon have joined the Cult of Mamelon. Will anything be powerful to stand in the way of this mysteriously-named goddess and her army of cute yet deadly imaginary beasts?
Tune in next time.
I quoted this one because honestly it is one of the funniest. I remember a long time ago when I was so into this game, and the entire genre. I loved the idea of being able to use the monsters you fought in an RPG to be able to fight others in a min/maxing strategy fest. It's kind of strange, but I kind of just moved on after a while... I feel like I would really enjoy getting into the series again, but when I hardly have time now for my hobbies, I kind of can't really just get more stuff feeding into that.
It just kind of touches me to see so many comments now about people really enjoying the game I remember being made fun of for playing. Yet now, I'm at a college apartment where every member has at one point played the card game, and just got discouraged due to bad set quality and general lack of players. Funny how that kind of thing just goes around.
@Seph: What do you mean i'm expensive! although...it is true!
Hello again people, i'm finally in the coffeehouse!
I'm also a fan of pokemon and always make ryan feel guilty for not using all the cute pokemon hehe.
I'm currently playing mystery dungeon, the red one.
I hope you feel welcome. Your banner looks familiar, so therefore I felt like I wanted to be able to say welcome, from the clan leader who is hardly ever here
And I have a killer headache..... I took advil last night, slept it off, woke up with another headache.... or the same one, i'm not sure...
Normally I'm not one to get headaches.. last night Ryan left at around 3am... Really, a lot of it kind of started off badly.. it wasn't until the last hour that we were at peace and stuff.. I just hate it when we have nights like that... Both of us are doing our best to just put it behind us and enjoy the good times the next time we see each other will bring
These things do have a way of happening with us, just remember that in general we've been getting better. See how much good just talking about things that we enjoy help?
Just wanted to say that I'm really happy to hear that you're feeling better. Hope that things are going well for you, as they seem to have in the posts of yours that I've read.
Hello coffeehouse people, firstly congratulations to Psychoburner for Regular of the Week, also congrats to you alacar for choosing him.
@ Bu-ni, welcome to the coffeehouse, I'm sure you will tell us all if Sephy likes to train all his cute adorable pokemon upto lvl 100, not the cool pokemon but things like bloody jigglypuff and chansey.
@ Sakura and Alacar, thanks for mentioning you like the new avvy, just a lil upset its not animated, got a good avvy coming up next week however.
@ Emily, stop pestering Myta, by calling her rich, meanie and you forgot I'm one of the RPG gods here in these forums.
@ Cecilia and Alacar, I hope you both get well soon.
Also lastly I love catgirls too, they are just purrrfect, gosh how cheesey did that sound *punches one in the face for being an idiot*...
Funny how calling someone rich can be deragatory. Ah, the process of raising oneself to 100... Notice that I will not submit to the Emily names.
The DS games I own are listed in the DS section of my game collection, which can be found in my extendo sig (click the link in my sig that reads "Haunted Castle")
Meanwhile, Josh got Pokemon Diamond today, which means one more person I need to fight to use the DS.
I've had a pretty good week at work, and yet I feel really anxious and jumpy for some reason. I've been really uncomfortable all day- whenever I am sitting I start to get back pain and knee pain and feel the need to move, but whenever I am up moving I start to feel drowsy and need to sit down after a while. Whenever I eat, I get nauseated and feel the urge to vomit, but if I don't eat I start to feel weak and my stomach starts growling a lot. Also, I keep going back and forth from feeling overly hot and humid to feeling very cold and shivery, and I am not really enjoying it. I don't have a fever or anything, but I don't feel very well just the same, and I have all sorts of things to do today once Mamelon gets off work.
I have made no plans to buy much Future Sight, but I picked up a booster anyway because I didn't want my dealer to think I was back on the wagon I felt like it. As expected, it was crap after crap. My rare was Pyromancer's Swath. I don't remember much else, except Witch's Mist, which makes me yawn. I like some of FS and TS in general, but much of FS just impresses me as being like, the indie low budget college post-modern film of MTG, in that a lot of the "futureshifted" cards feature things that seem, honestly, to just be weird for the sake of weirdness- i.e. "Guess what? It's enchantments! It is tapping! BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!"
And while I A) realize this comment is like, weeks late, and B) I don't really want to succumb to your typical MTGS rumor season nerd rage, Steamflogger Boss, to me, is the biggest, stupidest joke since One with Nothing. At least One With Nothing was honest in it's horribleness.
Anyway, enough blog-like posting. Let's get back to saying hello to each other for several pages.
I'm not exactly a fan of the hellos for streams of pages Also, haunted castle... sounds familiar. You know, maybe the whole concept of Rise should be brought back to a forum... have you considered bringing the game to the PnPi? Forgive my ignorance and lack of attendance should the topic have been covered...
Also, Steamflogger really isn't terrible... at least it's a better Hill Giant. Did it need to be a waste of a rare? Maybe just to keep it out of the limited pool. I believe there was an explanation for it on the Wizards site, but I really don't know for sure. Sure seems like more of a preview than anything else.
Lastly, blog styles can oftentimes spark conversation. Much like I'm doing right now in responding to it Quite an extensive list you have there in the castle, too.
I'm middle class. My driver is actually my grandfather who looks after me since my mom is a nut case. I'm not rich since I can't afford an Ipod, I can't buy most of the techie things I want like a pair of new speakers, can't buy the cultural books...
We have to save money for my college tuition fee for the second semester.
My aunt is the rich one. I just get money from her and I buy my books and other stuff that I need.
I am rich in spirit though. I think that's enough.
I was just going to photoshop a collage of her favorite actors saying "From us to you" and then throw it at her face and go back to sleep.
I work and get paid. I'm not rich. I make sure my ass hurts so that I get the salary I really deserve. I work hard, demmet.
Yes, girls are expensive! LoL
* mytamaimai is glad to be a girl.
Hey ala!!! I'm also sick... I have fever, but it's not serious. Have you had yourself checked?
Hope you feel better about things in general, but I did notice this whole rich things here... rich in spirit kind of made me grimace and smile at the same time. I'm trying to get an impression of your age by your posts, and I could say anywhere between 15 and 17. I am glad to see that you are saving and watching your money, and working for it. Still, people don't often like it when status as a result of wealth is flaunted. Just some food for thought I guess.
Is it just me, or has the quality of conversation kind of...gone downhill in the 'house over the last couple of months? I'm not calling anyone out or anything, just bringing it up. I've noticed that I haven't really wanted to stop in here recently because it seems like there's nothing to talk about, and all my favorite people are absent whenever I'm around, so yeah.
In any case, I got an early birthday present today: Pokémon Diamond. I've just reached Eterna City and don't want to go too much farther yet, because Josh has a pokémon very close to my heart that I'll trade him for tomorrow, and I'll need to level him up =)
But just in case anyone wants it, my friend code is 2749 7739 1400. Just throwing that out there. Pity I haven't actually finished Pokémon Ruby or yet; I'd love to have access to a Houndour or Duskull right now >_<;;
Yeah, I've noticed that too. Seems people are just replying just for the sake of replying, or to continue the conversation, but not really applying anything. We need a topic, and we need people to provide input.
Also, some of us just seem to be talking back and forth with one user, filling the thread with 'chat room' style stuff.
Plus, May is a busy busy month for many of us.
Shink.. Photon Eater can be a bit.. rough. Don't let that get to ya. If you have a problem, let us know. But hey, your choice.
So.. topic.. Best _______ in the world? Fill in the blank, and let us know why
I don't know if it's getting less interesting, rather just that people are less responsive. I think that perhaps the old people are used to the nature of the coffeehouse, and things that normally would have been responded to a year ago get ignored. I know that I've asked questions in the house that I put a lot of thought into, only they were casually ignored. I remember once I asked something, and the next page and a half were Alacar and Sakura flerting. I had to post again to get some response, and others have felt their posts have been completly ignored. And I've seen people bring up the fact that they were ignored only to be *****ed out for doing so.
I think that if it was a year ago, and the coffeehouse was still new and fresh, these questions or requests for help would have gotten more response and sparked conversation that grew beyond the original topic.
Thank you, thank you, thank you gentleman. (This means you Ether, Kraj, Shah, and Alacar). I tried to say that earlier but in a less obvious way I suppose.
I haven't been around very long, but I do remember when posts were more in depth, longer, intimate, etc. I absolutely fell in love with this place because of that. Now it seems I just stop by and read but go, 'nothing great again today'. I know I've personally been posting less frequently for that reason. There's not much to post on. By the time I do see a few things my post ends up being 8 miles along and most likely loses half its meaning to start with.
I also realize it's a busy time of year and many people don't stop in as often, but something seems to be lacking a bit in the last month, maybe two.
On another note all together...coffeehouse chat anyone? Open for suggestions again.
EDITS:I think I managed to sneak in a few anti-prom comments as well. Most of what I did as a youth was boring or illegal(not to be mentioned in the forum) with nothing in the middle.
Awwww that's such a cute and funny visual Kraj! Thanks for sharing.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that some of the folks who have been here a while kinda know how the Coffeehouse flows and shifts, and are used to change. The more new people come in, the more it shifts, and the more they don't notice it.
Also, I would like to state my agreement with your sentiment on conversation that is best left for instant messenger programs. It's not wholly bad for this thread, not in the least, but it is best suited elsewhere.
As for the Coffeehouse changing, I can definitely attribute to that. People are in and out.
As for me, I'm here to stay. I've been driving for about a month, jobless and schoolless for about a week, and I've got bills to pay. The stress is a steady flow around here, but I'm trying to take it in stride.
*waves to Mamelon and the others*
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In the entire run of this clan, I feel like this is a common feeling that everyone experiences from time to time. I can say that I personally have felt passed over and disappointed on more than one occasion, and I know Josh and Mamelon have as well at different points. Sometimes it just happens- as old members lose interest and new members arrive, the paradigm shifts, and while some regulars stick around and provide something of a framework for the clan, the meat of the group can be very different from one section of time to another. Availability, activity levels, and even current events can influence what we talk about, how we talk about it, and how much or little we do it.
In response to your anti-prom, I think the topic didn't take off because frankly, I don't think it was direct enough. People were discussing prom, and you came in with a topic that was, right down to the name, directly opposed to it. Meanwhile, you were hoping to discuss the antics of youth, as you said, it may have been hard to glean that from your post. Furthermore, many members may not be able to wax reminiscent of their juvenile exploits just yet, as some of them are barely into their adolescence as it is.
I've found that sometimes, you just can't expect people to pick up on a subject. If it is just a casual subject, it is a little easier to let it go and not take it personally, but if it is a truly personal topic, I understand it can be frustrating. However, you really really have to try not to take it personally. Many people come into this clan and expect it to be like talking to someone face to face, when in reality it is like walking into a large area where several smaller groups of people have separated off and are having their own conversations- fittingly enough, a bit like the environment you would see in a coffeehouse, with various people off to their own tables, doing their own things. However, sometimes you really do want to interact with the entire group, and sometimes the group doesn't listen.
I've found from my experiences that the best way to do it is merely to respectfully bring it back up later. Don't feel bad about telling people how you felt about being brushed off, but don't rush in accusingly and try and guilt them about missing your message, because it is very easy to do. I know that I have felt brushed off, but I have also done a good deal of unintentional brushing off of my own, and I can tell you I am a good deal more receptive and even apologetic when it is brought to my attention in a civil manner. When people feel passed over and make the big, dramatic posts about how no one likes them and they want to leave it merely inflames others and comes across as, if you'll excuse the crude expression- attention whoring.
There are a lot of balls in the air as far as conversation goes in this particular clan. Sometimes they get dropped, but it is important to remember that is does happen to everyone. Also, the pace does change and evolve as the clan does. I personally have been part of this from the very beginning, and I have seen at least 6 very distinct "versions" of the Coffeehouse come and go as time as gone on- some more thoughtful and intimate (I have to admit, my personal favorite), like a group of friends meeting up for a cup of something after work, some more breezy and casual, like one big nerdy cocktail party, and one particular era in which it was a bad case of trying to eat while the Spam Lady from Monty Python screams in your face (sidenote: Should that era ever return, the blood shall never cease to flow and the waffle iron shall ever sizzle with the reek of seared, teenage flesh).
Right now, let's be frank. The paradigm has shifted again. There are new members with new schedules and new expectations of where the conversation will go. There are new groups of friends forming within the clan, but that doesn't mean that the older members don't have their place. You just need to speak up and go about your business as you always would, and try not to be too discouraged.
But by the same token, I really do wish people would not dominate conversations. I don't mean bring up a conversation and talk about it a good deal- I mean, Mortal Wombat sort of domination. You know what I mean- steering all conversation back to one particular topic, which is nine times out of ten completely self-oriented, or else ignoring all other conversation completely.
I also want to say that I really don't appreciate when people use the clan as a place to "boost" their post count. This is not the purpose of clans, and this sort of behavior is not only damaging to the reputations of the posters that do it, but to this clan and all others. I understand custom tags are exciting and alluring, but patience is also a virtue to take into consideration here. Unless you drop off the face of the Earth or break rules with reckless abandon, it is generally pretty hard NOT to keep up with MTGS, and regardless of how active you are, you will eventually get that ever-coveted tag- a tag that, despite what you might think, is no more a sign of status than any other part of your profile. Think of it less like an unlockable feature, and more like a birthday present for being around the site for a while.
On a final note, I have to be honest, I feel like many of the lighter posts that have been taking place could really be better suited on an instant messenger program. It is one thing when we are all talking back and forth in a brief, casual manner, but I feel like a lot of the time anymore it is really just several handfuls of different people basically having a private conversation in public. I feel like this bothers people, in the same way someone talking loudly on a cellphone in a public place would bother people. Despite the fact that it is taking place in public, it really is just a private conversation, and it contributes nothing to the thread but saturated space, which in turn makes the less active members feel as if their words are being drowned out by the clamor.
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@Alacar - My interpretation and understanding of your last post is:
Older regulars are superior to new regulars.
I gathered this from your post as well, although would like to think that is not truly your attitude. We were all new members at some point, be it here or on MTGS in general, and I think many of us have come out of nowhere as relative unknowns to this group and become vital parts of the community. Joyd, for example, was a relatively unknown and new member several months ago, and now I could not imagine this clan without him. The same goes for Dreia (who, if I recall, used to think I was this terrible ass of a person after our initial interactions), Kraj, Kevinliu, and Shaharazad.
On childhood antics: I walked the line between being a very boring child and being a real character. Sexual exploits aside, I remember some crazy things in my childhood, but they were mostly atypical. I didn't do a lot of driving around doing stupid things with friends, and I don't have many drunken exploits, but I have all sorts of bizarre stories pieced together from growing up at a summer camp, working as a camp counselor, and being friends with some of the most eccentric and unusual people from around the world growing up, such as Mamelon's childhood friend Joe- or, as I prefer to call him, the Whore of Babylon.
For example, I remember one evening when Joe and I went to the mall, during which time he nearly caused a small riot in a Waldenbooks, tried to lure a mallcop into a public bathroom to fulfill some sort of poorly formed "corrupt cop" fantasy, and made out with a plastic Tifa doll in the Food Court. That was probably the tamest evening I ever spent with that lunatic.
Wow, there's a topic. It's almost ironic that a conversation about quality brings about higher quality posts.
Honestly, Photon's response sums up in great deal the amount that I wish to say here. Indeed, this place has a way of changing in terms of dynamics, and older posters do certainly remember certain things about this place that have changed. However, I don't think that's what's driven people away. Honestly, a lot of the comments here, especially in the noted quotes section of this particular post, talk about how they used to come in here expecting good conversation and oftentimes the reaction is now "meh. Nothing special." To me, this is indeed a reason why I'm not often here. Still, overshadowing is a problem we've had in the past and really can't be helped just due to the immensity of the posts that are found here. It is tremendously easy to get lost in the shuffle. I've experienced it too... Remember when I was trying to really get help for Sanctuaries and stuff? I remember typically I would get one response, usually from Alacar, about the questions I posted in regards to it. It was kind of discouraging to see that happen, especially for something that was important. It really isn't a big deal, just an example. As has been said, everyone experiences it once in a while just because this place is huge.
Finally I would like to elaborate with this topic with a personal connection: The size of this place is daunting. For me, just this contribution took me an hour and a half for only 8 pages. This is a sizeable time chunk for me. Even right now, Omna is there waiting to be able to playtest Sanctuaries with me. It takes a lot to meaningfully contribute here, and THAT is a reason I think fewer of the older members post. It's time consuming to contribute in this way, and we're all busy people. Such a contribution becomes something that is reserved for "once in a while". Especially at this point for me in college. For the first time in my academic career here, I face the possibility of getting a 4.0 if I continue this path. For many of the peers that I strongly associate with, this is an experience that has been felt at least once, and I also know that my competitive major demands a better performance than people of other majors. It's scary, but getting a really good job depends fairly heavily on my performance... and there are other things in my life that are time consuming as well. So I do my best, but I truly only post here once in a while. However, I feel that my reputation here is well maintained as a result... when I am here, I do my best to be as responsive as I can. This is the first time in a LONG time I have done something this extensive though. It does make me happy when I see responses to something like this though.
Best puzzle game ever? Tetris Attack/Pokemon Puzzle League, once you got past the more childish aspects. Good AI in the upper difficulties... they actually challenged me
And so ends my long post. Thank you all for listening. Take this post for what you will.
I feel old, too, and I'm not even that old, relatively. It's funny how much of a different world being in high school and being an independent adult can be.
I'll say. I know I missed out on a lot, and I sometimes wish I could do it all over, but I prefer being an adult, I think.
It's a BB tag. Like /quote or /b... only, in this case /mamelon, as if to imply that my post is so long and involved because I was running my thoughts through the Mamelon filter.
By long and involved, do you mean delicious and carefully prepared and seasoned?
We had a lot of wild schemes, too, including a failed attempt to make a man impotent through use of nonsense magical rituals, plotting the downfall of a variety of individuals, from your run of the mill high school "*****" girls to a particularly racist paraplegic, and more than one wild adventure in which several packs of bikini underwear were smuggled out of a department store in Joe's pants- he merely put a good dozen or so pairs of them on at once and if anyone questioned why he was so bulky in the drawers, he told them he was just wearing a diaper.
Which, interestingly enough, was actually a feasible explanation coming from him.
Hahaha, oh my God. "Miss, tell the man at table three that his wife looks like a whore." I'm surprised we're still alive. I'll never sit in the middle of a restaurant again.
Best Mu Gu Gai Pan you'd had in a while, though, right?
And we were surprised when they chased us down afterwards. If only that were the only high-speed chase I'd ever been in because of him.
That was the same night we lost the gas cap and drove all over town looking for it, and we ended up tearing across town in the middle of the night blaring the English version of the Sailor Moon theme song on the stereo.
Speaking of crazy time in his car, remember the time he was speeding and he saw a cop coming the opposite way, so he just threw it in reverse and drove backwards? At like, 70 miles an hour?
Oh, yes I do. He was a nightmare on the road. But it was kind of a fun nightmare.
And yes, that resounding DIC melody still haunts my dreams.
And remember that whole era of time in which I was apparently color blind and ran like, every red light across the Missouri state line? God, that was such a stupid trip. Who the hell drives through the endless nothingness of the Midwest to visit some interior design messiah?
An ostentatious queen with an HGTV fetish?
Like he had anything else to do. Or, further, like any of us had any choice but to drive through the endless nothingness of the Midwest for any purpose.
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All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the light that you see. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
But the rainbow is an image of hope for many reasons, as it is a brilliant sight coming out of oftimes dismal weather.
Guys Ive just came back from my Haircut..Well, Ive read anythin. Here's what I have to say. A SHOUTOUT POST #2053 TO ALL:
I HOPE SOMEONE READS MY OPINION
(OR EVEN NOTICE IT)
Maybe you'd notice that I post often,(And as alacar says, I post to every other reply) and Its because Im online ALL DAY because Im on my vacation. I stay All day at the house doin nothin after my chores, or when I eat, just that, other than that I sit here beside my computer and hope I'll be able to find someone to talk to here.
Im Just Very Excited to see some people(especially regulars) to come in when Im online, Since many people here tend to post when im asleep, its because of my unfortunate timezone. So when some regulars pass by, Im excited to see and read their post, even if its Super Long or Super spammy, and I dont care as long as I can talk to someone. Youre lucky to have some folks Home. As for me, Im ALL ALONE in my house. My Mom works, My dad is abroad, My bro and Sis are also at work and Im SOOOO ALONE. The coffeehouse makes me feel Im not, so Im glad and happy for every single reply.
I joined the house because I really wanted some company. I joined because I saw so many jolly people here. At first I want some stupid Custom title but with ALACAR'S Advice I didnt care about it anymore. The Reason I have 800+ posts now is because I also Frequent the Standard forums..
Seriously I Do not Intend to Spam. IF my Posts seem Spammy, then IM SORRY for that. I just would like the conversation fast. You dont know how it feels to be all alone. Not even a friend to visit me here. I occasionally sing and talk to myself just to make me busy, and as I saw the coffehouse, I became overjoyed(Thanks to stevie wonder for the word) and Immediately joined. Im glad everyone welcomed me. Everybody was like, "hey hunter, welcome!", or 'Whats up Hunter?" like that and Im surprised that people are actually noticing me. Its not like other threads that, "your list sucks" or "you dont know what your sayin". And If you guys really want some long posts, I can say topics and other things, but as other's too say, they seem ignored. But I hope nobody ignores my opinion and Im happy if you'll respect it.
Anyway I LOVE YOU ALL. THANKS FOR BEING MY GOOD FRIENDS!
ANYWAY, ILL BE THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE BUSY IN JUNE, SINCE IM A GRADUATING STUDENT THIS COMING SEMESTER, AND IM SURE ILL BE THE ONE WHOS GONNA POST LESS, SO IM ENJOYING THE POSTING WHILE I STILL CAN. I HOPE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND POOR HUNTER.
Thanks to Omna for congratulatin me..I hope I get a coffeehouse Treat!!
A BIG APPLAUSE TO THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY CALLING ME EMILY EVEN IF I DONT KINDA LIKE IT
1. Sakura
2. SapphireTRI
3. ALacar
4.Crimson AVVy
5.Dreia
6. mamelon(please dont start the cynthia thing^_^)
Well well, plenty of conversation. And some innuendo and insults on the side. Looks like the Coffeehouse is sticking true to form.
Arguas does raise a good point; replying to everything in the House takes a long time; so don't be surprised if your post is ignored.
Me, I'm coughing up major pleghm; don't be alarmed, it's just my body expunging the illness I've been afflicted with. I'll continue to heal tomorrow.
Hunter, I know you don't intend to spam, and I know it can be awful boring at home alone. I'm going to be home alone ALL WEEK from next friday to next monday. It'll just be me and the cats. I'll have to take full responsibility for the house. So yeah, I'll be posting here a little more.
As for trying to help you.. I dunno. I guess I could try to be more nocturnal for you.. but I'll have responsibilities that week that need attending to (feeding cats, checking mail, watering plants, etc.)
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Arguas does raise a good point; replying to everything in the House takes a long time; so don't be surprised if your post is ignored.
I really understand this point, so that's why even if my some posts are ignored Im still happy to see people mentionin me from time to time, just like you, even if you just intend to say, "hunter please post a little" or "hunter please stop postin much". You know, Just by seein the word "Hunter" in the posts touches me, and thats why Im startin to feel that, "Im noticed." BUT ANYWAY, I STILL LIKE OTHERS TO READ MY POST #2053 AND I HOPE NOBODY IGNORES IT^_^, because what ive said there is very important.
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Me, I'm coughing up major pleghm; don't be alarmed, it's just my body expunging the illness I've been afflicted with. I'll continue to heal tomorrow.
Hunter, I know you don't intend to spam, and I know it can be awful boring at home alone. I'm going to be home alone ALL WEEK from next friday to next monday. It'll just be me and the cats. I'll have to take full responsibility for the house. So yeah, I'll be posting here a little more.
thats good to hear. I'll have a home buddy now. My fiance has work too, and the last time we had a date is may 6 and we watched spiderman 3. I'll be alone in the house again until june 20th(which is the start of classes)
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As for trying to help you.. I dunno. I guess I could try to be more nocturnal for you.. but I'll have responsibilities that week that need attending to (feeding cats, checking mail, watering plants, etc.)
Actually you dont need to be nocturnal, losing sleep will make you feel ill again alacar. Your really a good person to me and I dont want you gettin all sick again. Its fine if everyone sleeps, Myta is there also to keep me company. So, sleep right and sleep tight.^_^
Guys I hope you really read my post #2053.
Currently listenin to: Stevie Wonder - Overjoyed* or OverJOYD*
Don't worry about your post, Hunter. We'll read it.
Also.. it's been out for a long time now, (a year or so) but I've decided. I'm editing Academy.
Yeah, I know. It's a pain on you guys 'cause you have to reinstall it on your MWS, and you just got it working. But imagine what pain it is on ME!
Changes:
For the most part, the set will remain unchanged. Nothing too drastic.
Whenever a card mentions 'experience counter' where it could've just been 'counter', it's been just changed to 'counter'. This expands the functionality of many cards, but doesn't change them too much.
Bravado has changed. Instead of the more narrow This spell costs less for each experience counter on a creature you control. It will be This spell costs less for each counter on a creature you control. This makes the ability far easier to abuse outside of the block.
Spirit Link has changed into lifelink, where applicable. Lifelink is already in the books, so I've changed it. Spirit Link also now works just like it used to.
A FEW costs have been reduced. Nothing too dramatic.
A few cards have had 'draw a card' added. Some stuff that was underpowered was turned into cantrips. Nothing dramatic, like I mentioned.
Anyway, this change will be slow to finalize but it's something that needed to be done, especially the first one. It also makes some cards look a little more clean.
Don't worry about your post, Hunter. We'll read it.
Also.. it's been out for a long time now, (a year or so) but I've decided. I'm editing Academy.
Yeah, I know. It's a pain on you guys 'cause you have to reinstall it on your MWS, and you just got it working. But imagine what pain it is on ME!
Changes:
For the most part, the set will remain unchanged. Nothing too drastic.
Whenever a card mentions 'experience counter' where it could've just been 'counter', it's been just changed to 'counter'. This expands the functionality of many cards, but doesn't change them too much.
Bravado has changed. Instead of the more narrow This spell costs less for each experience counter on a creature you control. It will be This spell costs less for each counter on a creature you control. This makes the ability far easier to abuse outside of the block.
Spirit Link has changed into lifelink, where applicable. Lifelink is already in the books, so I've changed it. Spirit Link also now works just like it used to.
A FEW costs have been reduced. Nothing too dramatic.
A few cards have had 'draw a card' added. Some stuff that was underpowered was turned into cantrips. Nothing dramatic, like I mentioned.
Anyway, this change will be slow to finalize but it's something that needed to be done, especially the first one. It also makes some cards look a little more clean.
Uhhm ALacar, can you post a new dload text of this? Well anyway I hope everyone reads post#2053 so that they know my thoughts about the coffeehouse topic.
Its a pity that some of our newbies come and go, i.e. Seht, Shink and Hunters/Emily/Cynthia friend Il-Dana, is it because they feel they are somehow left out and ignored or because they do not contribute to the recent topics of discussion or simply because they just want to talk magic and nothing more, who knows, its a shame they have left us. But it means that if people come and go like that and some of the old regulars have disapeared to, then its gonna be quite in the coffeehouse in the next few months.
Ok, You called me both Emily and Cynthia, and Im annoyed..Geez. Well anyway my Friend Il-Dana said he will be quite busy these days. And he was ashamed because he does not frequent the forums. And btw I was the one who requested Le Gambit for his avvy/banner..So sad.
Hunter: I know how it feels to not see many people around when you're posting - I do a lot of my reading and posting during the day here, while America's still sleeping. Still, you don't always need to reply to everything. If you take the time and make your points, the people you're talking to will almost always reply when they're awake, but (speaking from a personal perspective here) the number of posts you make gets a little bit overwhelming to try and reply to.
That's why nowadays I wait for about 2 or 3 posts before I reply. I hope you notice that. Well anyway I hope you also understand me by readin my previous posts..
Ok time for the fun part. Maybe "call hunter Emily/Cynthia" is quite a game now. I hope I make the full list.
I would understand people seeing my posts as spam... I don't intend them to be, I'm just cack at explaining things and I normally don't have wonderful amounts of time to complete my posts due to one thing or another.
I dont see your posts as spam, actually you really contribute alot to the thread. Well anyway, I hope you have decided on the Ford car of your choice.
Back to Hunter: WOW! Twist eh?
I feel you are a great member here and I have noticed your posts getting much longer and detailed since Alacar had a little dig, but I can understand that, with your timezone problems, it is frustrating to visit and only have 0-1 people to reply to. Hell, it's normally me you reply to during the day
Thanks. And these "0-1 people to reply to" is occurring right now. Since everyone is askin a more detailed post then Im doin them. I really learned from Alacar alot. Anyway You told me before ur usin firefox, maybe u shud read the link at my post before this.
Guys Since there's still no people in here yet maybe I'll sleep early. I hope guys who havent read my post#2053 take a look at it, because its just my reaction to the previous coffeehouse arguments.
I hope when I wake up tomorrow its just like nothing have happened.
Love you guys. Always have and always will. *hugs and kisses*
*Currently listenin to : Youve Got a friend in me - From Toy Story*
Hang out with my friends (and did I ever)
Score with that amazing redhead downtown (and did I ever)
Play guitar (yup)
Get into college (yup)[quote]
Ah, youth. I guess that's a pretty good way to go.
[quote]*Shaharazad casts enlarge and hugs the coffeehouse, then cops a feel Miroku style* "Sup baby?"
Ooh, you saucy flirt. Don't worry, I won't slap you. Very hard.
My favourite time was at university, where you fall between being a kid and being an adult. You take on more responsibility for yourself without having to take care of everything. I know it's trite to say it, but it really helped me turn into the adult I am - I was fairly hot-tempered and carefree when I started out, but I've turned into a much calmer and more grounded person, and I think those 4 years really helped me with that.
I never had that time. I avoided going to college because I never wanted to be involved in that kind of environment again, one in which I would be forced to keep acting like I was someone I'm not.
@Shink and Photon Eater: Okay, I'm confused. Earlier in this thread, Photon Eater gave Shink a perfectly reasonable response to a question, which apparently wasn't enough for Shink because he replied in an asperitous, rude way, for no real reason. So, Photon criticized his response and defended himself, using sarcasm, of course, and he gets warned for it. But Shink didn't. How come?
Shink incited the conflict, and was the one acting nasty. Photon was just sticking up for himself and basically asking "What gives?" That doesn't even resemble flaming. And if did, a lot more posts than that would be warnable. Photon's reply was reasonable, relevent, and it was not attacking a member personally.
@Hunter: I can tell you're excited to talk with people, and I figured that's why you posted so often. I'm glad you're considering requests to slow down and taking that to heart, even if you weren't really spamming.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the light that you see. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
But the rainbow is an image of hope for many reasons, as it is a brilliant sight coming out of oftimes dismal weather.
I just want to preface this by saying I have read everyone's post and greatly enjoyed the conversation today. Many people have responded to things I said, which is really nice, and I don't want people to think I didn't notice; I just don't have much else to say on the topics.
Except that rather than drugs my crazy high school days involved Pixie Stix....
So, a couple things:
Omna that was a fantastic post. I'll toss in my own testimonial on my feelings of belonging at the 'House. When I first started coming I mostly just hung out and didn't say much. From time to time I'd have a comment to add to the discussion, so I would. And my comments were rarely acknowledged or responded to. That didn't bother me in the least at first, but it went on for quite some time and eventually I got a bit disheartened. When I expressed my frustration, I was assured by everyone that I really was noticed and appreciated. And you know what? Within a couple weeks of that I felt like a valued member of the 'House. I was much more involved in conversations, and I was on the receiving end of compliments I never expected to hear.
So the moral of the story is, that feeling left out sometimes is just the nature of forums; it's unavoidable. But when you do feel that way, you need to realize that the people here value you a lot more than you realize.
And I think the name I'll call Hunter by will be Margo. No particular reason. It just sounds amusing to me.
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@Hunter, in response to post#2053. I really do not want you to feel attacked my friend. You're one of the sweetest people I've seen in the forums, and I feel you have a genuine good heart. I don't think that any of us are attacking you and I think everyone likes you. I just feel that the conversation has naturally shifted towards posting habits and such. I do think you have improved greatly over your first posts, and we can all tell that you've been trying to do so.
I do understand that you feel very alone and I do hope we help you to feel better. I do however agree with FL that it might help you to branch into posting in other clans in addition to the coffeehouse. Keep on being a member of the coffeehouse, and enjoying conversations here with us, but also mabey check into another one and be friends with that clan. That way you can have a broader base of people to chat it up with and more chances to catch people when they are awake.
The forum games section is also a great place to relax and have fun with people, and there are always extendo sigs. Myta has a great extendo sig in the testing ground, and it's a fun place to do chatty things. And one of the best parts is that you can't get spam warnings there! hehe
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Ooh, you saucy flirt. Don't worry, I won't slap you. Very hard.
Hehe!
@ArgusArguas I'm working on a response to your post as well. Just so you know.
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So the moral of the story is, that feeling left out sometimes is just the nature of forums; it's unavoidable. But when you do feel that way, you need to realize that the people here value you a lot more than you realize.
Thanks for you're insight Kraj. You have a great perspective and understanding of how forums work in the big picture, and also how the coffeehouse works.
I'm feeling really tired everyone. This is probably my last post for the day, so I will see you all later.
Just know that I'm glad we had this big group conversation, and I'm still jelous of all you people getting to enjoy pokemon. I want a mew.
Just got on and saw the lengthy conversations that went on while I was asleep. Here's a go at a response to two things in particular I want to address:
Coffeehouse's Status: As many people here know, I'm not particularly good at making lengthy post. In fact, I'd go to say I'm one of those people that has a lot of three and four liners here.
The problem is that I don't really have a lot to say most days as many times not much really happens to me and when it does I'm not one for going on at length about these things. I do try to pay attention to most posts here, however, and try to reply to as many as I have something to say about as possible.
In any case, I hope the 'House can get to a nature that everyone equally loves.
@Hunter: I've read post #2053 and I get what you're saying. Not sure if it really changes much for me though as I tend to judge on the majority of the posts I've seen and frankly I've been skipping some of yours. This means, for some reason, that your posts seem less pertinent to me. This doesn't mean they aren't pertinent at all but I just don't read some of them. Then again there are a BUNCH of posts I don't read - especially when I first get on (like the page or so since I've last read posts - at 40 posts per page).
Good luck with your finals, etc tho.
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Stop making me guilty because future visions sucks atm and i need to continue editing when i have the chance
And mine is worse than yours still for some reason - and I can't work on it till the next version of MSE comes out. Apparently, they're making FPM frames part of the main MSE application and they don't work now. At least I can work on a custom Planeshifted set in the meantime for fun.
Ok, I am glad someone brought this up, as I have been feeling this way for a while now. This is also a rare post from me, so I have it's given the courtesy of a read.
Is it just me, or has the quality of conversation kind of...gone downhill in the 'house over the last couple of months? I'm not calling anyone out or anything, just bringing it up. I've noticed that I haven't really wanted to stop in here recently because it seems like there's nothing to talk about, and all my favorite people are absent whenever I'm around, so yeah.
I've noticed this, myself. I tend to feel that I can't get a word in edge-wise, and I often feel like there's nothing worth responding to. I think it's due to several of the regulars being busy this time of the year, and that just causes everything to seem different.
I think the famous 'House isn't quite the fun, receptive place I thought it was, so you can scratch me off of any lists you have, okay? Bye guys.
Yukora: I'll see you in other places, no doubt, friend.
Hey, I still respect the hell out of you, but bailing on a time when simple discussion can solve a problem, and maybe even foster friendship, juts doesn't seem right. I hope you return.
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen something like this in the 'House, before. I find that depressing that someone could come into the Coffeehouse and find it not fun or receptive, because that is pretty much why I and a bunch of others joined and why we like it so much. We have got to change this.
There's nothing to change. Jack left not that long ago, and we've been doing the same thing we always have been. At the end of the day, we're not going to make everyone happy, and trying to do so will only cause the place to change more than it already has. This particular squabble is between Shink, and Josh. If Shink wants to leave the house, and not resolve it, then that's his perogative. It's not our job to do so.
And if I may, I implore you, Shink, to stay for just a little bit longer. I think right now is just a very slow time for a lot of the regulars who are really awesome, and I think when summer comes, the House will be fun and receptive again. I do know how you feel though, and I want to change that.
I echo my previous sentiments. Also, I don't think Photon was being harsh at all. Josh is the type of guy that is seems edgy at first, but when you get to know him, he's a sensitive, and caring individual. It's never his intention to directly hurt someone, and treating this situation like he is is wrong.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. Seems people are just replying just for the sake of replying, or to continue the conversation, but not really applying anything. We need a topic, and we need people to provide input.
Agreed. Conversation lately feels forced, or, sometimes, it even feels like an IM conversation put on the forums.
Also, some of us just seem to be talking back and forth with one user, filling the thread with 'chat room' style stuff.
Exactly.
Plus, May is a busy busy month for many of us.
Indeed.
Shink.. Photon Eater can be a bit.. rough. Don't let that get to ya. If you have a problem, let us know. But hey, your choice.
There are only two times when Photon comes off as rude or offensive. The first is when he's joking with you and frankly, get used to it. The second is when you are rude to him first. Just a little something to keep in mind.
This is invariably true. Josh is a reallly great guy, and once you give him a chane, you'll know exactly whatI am talking about.
I don't know if it's getting less interesting, rather just that people are less responsive. I think that perhaps the old people are used to the nature of the coffeehouse, and things that normally would have been responded to a year ago get ignored. I know that I've asked questions in the house that I put a lot of thought into, only they were casually ignored. I remember once I asked something, and the next page and a half were Alacar and Sakura flerting. I had to post again to get some response, and others have felt their posts have been completly ignored. And I've seen people bring up the fact that they were ignored only to be *****ed out for doing so.
I've been through this, myself. Honestly, no matter how hard we try, there will always be times when this occurs. It's not fun to go through, but you really can't take it to heart. It's nothig personal, it just happens.
In the entire run of this clan, I feel like this is a common feeling that everyone experiences from time to time. I can say that I personally have felt passed over and disappointed on more than one occasion, and I know Josh and Mamelon have as well at different points. Sometimes it just happens- as old members lose interest and new members arrive, the paradigm shifts, and while some regulars stick around and provide something of a framework for the clan, the meat of the group can be very different from one section of time to another. Availability, activity levels, and even current events can influence what we talk about, how we talk about it, and how much or little we do it.
I have to agree. Change will inevitably happen in an enviroment such as this, but I would still like that our core beliefs aren't altered.
In response to your anti-prom, I think the topic didn't take off because frankly, I don't think it was direct enough. People were discussing prom, and you came in with a topic that was, right down to the name, directly opposed to it. Meanwhile, you were hoping to discuss the antics of youth, as you said, it may have been hard to glean that from your post. Furthermore, many members may not be able to wax reminiscent of their juvenile exploits just yet, as some of them are barely into their adolescence as it is.
Shaharazad, I must admit, when I read your anti-prom idea, I felt put-off. I was in a suit waiting for the time to go pick up my date, anf there was something slapping that in the face. I also knew that you didn't intend it as such, so I didn't respond.
I've found that sometimes, you just can't expect people to pick up on a subject. If it is just a casual subject, it is a little easier to let it go and not take it personally, but if it is a truly personal topic, I understand it can be frustrating. However, you really really have to try not to take it personally. Many people come into this clan and expect it to be like talking to someone face to face, when in reality it is like walking into a large area where several smaller groups of people have separated off and are having their own conversations- fittingly enough, a bit like the environment you would see in a coffeehouse, with various people off to their own tables, doing their own things. However, sometimes you really do want to interact with the entire group, and sometimes the group doesn't listen.
Excellent analogy. Also, at the end of the day, some people just don't have the capacity to respond to certain topics. It's much like when I didn't respond to the anti-prom, or when it was only me an strongbad arguing about the Bible, while everyone else went on with their conversations. Sometimes, not everyone will be privy to talking about a topic, no matter how much it means to you.
I've found from my experiences that the best way to do it is merely to respectfully bring it back up later. Don't feel bad about telling people how you felt about being brushed off, but don't rush in accusingly and try and guilt them about missing your message, because it is very easy to do. I know that I have felt brushed off, but I have also done a good deal of unintentional brushing off of my own, and I can tell you I am a good deal more receptive and even apologetic when it is brought to my attention in a civil manner. When people feel passed over and make the big, dramatic posts about how no one likes them and they want to leave it merely inflames others and comes across as, if you'll excuse the crude expression- attention whoring.
Although it's unfortunte, I hav ehtough that about some members when a dramatic post was made about getting ignored. I, myself, have made such a post, and later found myself shaking my head at my own actions.
But by the same token, I really do wish people would not dominate conversations. I don't mean bring up a conversation and talk about it a good deal- I mean, Mortal Wombat sort of domination. You know what I mean- steering all conversation back to one particular topic, which is nine times out of ten completely self-oriented, or else ignoring all other conversation completely.
I completely agree, the conversation hijacking has got ot stop.
I also want to say that I really don't appreciate when people use the clan as a place to "boost" their post count. This is not the purpose of clans, and this sort of behavior is not only damaging to the reputations of the posters that do it, but to this clan and all others. I understand custom tags are exciting and alluring, but patience is also a virtue to take into consideration here. Unless you drop off the face of the Earth or break rules with reckless abandon, it is generally pretty hard NOT to keep up with MTGS, and regardless of how active you are, you will eventually get that ever-coveted tag- a tag that, despite what you might think, is no more a sign of status than any other part of your profile. Think of it less like an unlockable feature, and more like a birthday present for being around the site for a while.
On a final note, I have to be honest, I feel like many of the lighter posts that have been taking place could really be better suited on an instant messenger program. It is one thing when we are all talking back and forth in a brief, casual manner, but I feel like a lot of the time anymore it is really just several handfuls of different people basically having a private conversation in public. I feel like this bothers people, in the same way someone talking loudly on a cellphone in a public place would bother people. Despite the fact that it is taking place in public, it really is just a private conversation, and it contributes nothing to the thread but saturated space, which in turn makes the less active members feel as if their words are being drowned out by the clamor.
I HOPE SOMEONE READS MY OPINION (OR EVEN NOTICE IT)
Ok, that's enough. I am not trying to be rude here, but this is not needed. We all read your posts, and appreciate your presence, you do not have to add a huge tag on your post, like no one ever notices you. Basically,this type of action only says to me "I want attention, so give it to me. NOW!"
Maybe you'd notice that I post often,(And as alacar says, I post to every other reply) and Its because Im online ALL DAY because Im on my vacation. I stay All day at the house doin nothin after my chores, or when I eat, just that, other than that I sit here beside my computer and hope I'll be able to find someone to talk to here.
Honestly, I am glad you enjoy this place enough to invest a lot of time in it. However, you do not have to reply to absolutely everything that is posted, as that can both seem like attention-seeking, and ++ery. I have no problem conversing with you, but, please, just dial it back a notch. You're a valued member, so you don't need to keep trying to prove you are.
Im Just Very Excited to see some people(especially regulars) to come in when Im online, Since many people here tend to post when im asleep, its because of my unfortunate timezone. So when some regulars pass by, Im excited to see and read their post, even if its Super Long or Super spammy, and I dont care as long as I can talk to someone. Youre lucky to have some folks Home. As for me, Im ALL ALONE in my house. My Mom works, My dad is abroad, My bro and Sis are also at work and Im SOOOO ALONE. The coffeehouse makes me feel Im not, so Im glad and happy for every single reply.
This is not ok. If you can't add something to the conversation without spamming, then wait until you can. we haven't supported spam in the house since it's creation, and I don't want to start doing so now.
I joined the house because I really wanted some company. I joined because I saw so many jolly people here. At first I want some stupid Custom title but with ALACAR'S Advice I didnt care about it anymore. The Reason I have 800+ posts now is because I also Frequent the Standard forums..
You can find sompany on AIM, or MSN, or even PMs. But having those types of conversation in the house just takes over the thread.
Seriously I Do not Intend to Spam. IF my Posts seem Spammy, then IM SORRY for that. I just would like the conversation fast. You dont know how it feels to be all alone. Not even a friend to visit me here. I occasionally sing and talk to myself just to make me busy, and as I saw the coffehouse, I became overjoyed(Thanks to stevie wonder for the word) and Immediately joined. Im glad everyone welcomed me. Everybody was like, "hey hunter, welcome!", or 'Whats up Hunter?" like that and Im surprised that people are actually noticing me. Its not like other threads that, "your list sucks" or "you dont know what your sayin". And If you guys really want some long posts, I can say topics and other things, but as other's too say, they seem ignored. But I hope nobody ignores my opinion and Im happy if you'll respect it. [I do respect your opinion, but please listen to mine. Despite how much you like super-fast conversation, this is not the area for chats. It drowns out a lot of people, and tends to dominate the thread. Please do not continue to do this.
[quote=Mamelon;/comments/10029200]@Shink and Photon Eater: Okay, I'm confused. Earlier in this thread, Photon Eater gave Shink a perfectly reasonable response to a question, which apparently wasn't enough for Shink because he replied in an asperitous, rude way, for no real reason. So, Photon criticized his response and defended himself, using sarcasm, of course, and he gets warned for it. But Shink didn't. How come?
Shink incited the conflict, and was the one acting nasty. Photon was just sticking up for himself and basically asking "What gives?" That doesn't even resemble flaming. And if did, a lot more posts than that would be warnable. Photon's reply was reasonable, relevent, and it was not attacking a member personally.
I just wanted to note that me and my fellow Mods are discussing last night's happenings right now. I will let you know what we we come up with. I'm sorry that that doesn't help much, but that's the best I can do
Also, Mamelon, I want you to know something. I tend to not reply to your posts, because you usually say exactly what I am thinking, but in a much more eloquent way. I hope it doesn't come accross as me ignoring you.
Hello, I'm back! I had a little computer problem, but i got it fixed. I can't stay here tonight for long, but i'll be back tomorrow. Let's hope that the computer won't crash so badly again....
what was the error/Issue? I may be able to help ya avoid it and or perm fix it.
Hey guys. Note: I harbor no ill will toward Photon Eater. I'm sure he's secretly a nice guy.
When I was being mocked for not digging through an extendo sig, I felt at the time that I was expected to explain why I don't really care to do so. Honestly, I have TWO babies to deal with. This is why I feel that doing so when I have to do something for one of them every few seconds isn't a good use of my time. I love posting and reading here, but I have kids, and when I post long posts like this, I've generally stopped several times to check up on Alexia or Brandon. While this post was being worked on, I fed Alexia Ravioli, String cheese, Goldfish, and a cup of milk, among doing other things. The real catalyst for me stepping back from the House was the fact that skimmers never seem to notice my posts. Does it make me cry? Of course not, I have extremely thick skin. However, I was trying to add to the seemingly dead conversation by talking about something I deemed pertinent to many members of this clan, noticing that you guys talk alot about certain DS games (which shall remain unnamed:P *cough*Pokemon), so I just wanted to ask about the DS.
If I seemed rude, I apologize. But hey, seems like conversation picked up. Well, anyway, talk to guys later.
I just wanted to note that me and my fellow Mods are discussing last night's happenings right now. I will let you know what we we come up with. I'm sorry that that doesn't help much, but that's the best I can do
I would like to echo Mamelon's sentiments quoted on this issue. Photon's response was characteristically abrasive, but nowhere near bad enough to even make me think, "Geez, that was a little over the top". I've seen much worse from Photon that still didn't make me think he was out of line.
In other matters...
I avoided saying this earlier because I didn't want to add negativity to the discussion but it seems that's being done anyway so I'll just lay it out there: there is a certain posting style that I feel contributes to the 'House's current situation, which is a post that contains very large quotes, especially ones that combine many of them and with very short responses. It's not uncommon to see a post take up a half page but have very little new content. For example, I regularly see a post that quotes an entire RotW or Anime otW, etc., and then responds with "Congratulations!" or "Great job! That's my favorite anime!". Often, posters will have several quotes & responses like that in their post.
I don't mean to pick on anyone in particular, but the most common complaint members have is that they are overwhelmed by the sheer number of pages to go through every day and posts like that are a huge contributor. It's just not that hard to remove or trim the posts you've quoted after you've done writing your responses.
That's all I'll say about it. Again, I don't want to pick on anyone or hurt their feelings, but I just think it's an easy way to help alleviate some of the problems people are expressing.
I would like to echo Mamelon's sentiments quoted on this issue. Photon's response was characteristically abrasive, but nowhere near bad enough to even make me think, "Geez, that was a little over the top". I've seen much worse from Photon that still didn't make me think he was out of line.
In other matters...
I avoided saying this earlier because I didn't want to add negativity to the discussion but it seems that's being done anyway so I'll just lay it out there: there is a certain posting style that I feel contributes to the 'House's current situation, which is a post that contains very large quotes, especially ones that combine many of them and with very short responses. It's not uncommon to see a post take up a half page but have very little new content. For example, I regularly see a post that quotes an entire RotW or Anime otW, etc., and then responds with "Congratulations!" or "Great job! That's my favorite anime!". Often, posters will have several quotes & responses like that in their post.
I don't mean to pick on anyone in particular, but the most common complaint members have is that they are overwhelmed by the sheer number of pages to go through every day and posts like that are a huge contributor. It's just not that hard to remove or trim the posts you've quoted after you've done writing your responses.
That's all I'll say about it. Again, I don't want to pick on anyone or hurt their feelings, but I just think it's an easy way to help alleviate some of the problems people are expressing.
Hell, I've said much worse to you Kraj, and we both ended up warning free.
What I was told was that the warning was because basically due to the fact that it was directed at someone who wasn't familiar with my communication style, and they could A) perceive it as a flame, and/or B) it could construe to passerbys or new members that it's alright to flame. Personally, I think that is a bit of an unfounded concern due to the fact that in over a year since this place has existed sarcastic comments from myself and many other people (I'm looking at you, Florida) have gone by without any hugely negative repercussions or flame wars. This clan has required relatively little moderator intervention in it's existence, so I honestly feel that a lone misunderstanding will not lead to grand flame wars, but by the same token I understand the concern, as I myself have a personal rule not to joke around that way with people who are basically "unexposed", as it were- a rule that I broke in this particular case because I was annoyed at what I perceived to be rudeness and laziness.
I later PMed Shink and explained, "Look, I thought you were rude, but I never had any intention to sound as if I were actually mocking or trying to shame you" and then welcomed him to the clan and encouraged him to return. This was long before he ever made his post to withdraw from here, and many many hours before my warning (my first ever, I'll point out, so I'm really not concerned with it either way.)
I'll admit I balk at the idea of changing my own posting style after a year of it being appropriate, but I'll concede to a mere warning on this point because the internet is a homogenizing medium, and you really lose a good deal of tone to other's interpretations- a fact that lead to a rather sticky misunderstanding in this particular case.
To be honest, a warning won't kill me. However, something does bother me about the situation and that is the notion that someone in this clan would consider me a troll after all this time despite the fact that is has been established over and over again that if I were really as nasty as I pretend to be sometimes, I would never be caught dead hanging out in such a spam castle lovely place such as this.
I do appreciate the support, though. And I am glad that conversation is moving along without a lot of wounded egos and tear-streaked departure posts.
If I seemed rude, I apologize
Like I said, I never intentionally mock people except for Alacar.
As we have been discussing, many people feel skimmed over, and it is particularly common among newer members who have yet to carve a niche into the group and have yet to learn the social dynamic. I've seen a LOT of new members since I have been here. Some come in and leave before long without much of an impact, but others adapt to the way it works here and stick around, like Kraj said. People are inherently slow to accept others. I think it has something to do with how they are mostly *******s, but that's besides the point. I've always thought that the people who really want to become a part of a clan find a way to get themselves involved in it. They share, they comment, they open up to new people, and most importantly, they fall head over heels for my sister and make me hate them and threaten them with violence.
How you doin'? *chomps bubblegum* My car has an enormous back seat, by the way...
And zing, Photon, zing. Gotta love you, Photty
EDIT: And as far as my 'eloquence' i don't especially feel like I conveyed my points as clearly as I wanted to... But I hope that the points I was trying to make were somewhat understood in some degree
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I was just about to comment and say that I was glad you seem to have forgotten that horrible moniker, but it seems I jinxed it.
I hate that nickname, it makes me wish my mom was pro-choice. But I suppose that is a large part of why you use it, you local enchantment.
Can I just pay you to follow me around and diss people I don't like? Like, seriously yo.
Hubba Hubba Nice ride.
Edit: Belated response to Photon for a post I didn't realize existed:
Haha! Fair enough
That's classic. I get the feeling that if our two highschool groups met, it would be almost like when two seperate adventuring parties met in D&D. They just kindof nod to eachother, and then continue on. Hehe
And yeah, being an enchantment, I can actually tap too, y'know? And where's Ethersphere, I sense some hot man-steerin' happening under his nose
EDIT: By the way, Shazzy, its Arguas , not Argus
On more CoffeeHouse business! Just cuz i feel like it, I'm giving our dear friend KevinLiu a special for getting the 1984th post (my birth year :p), one he can finally eat now that he's over his food poisoning!
And! to Hunter44 for the 2000th post! ! Just take it easy and make sure other folks have a chance to post
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I have a slight fever and I'm at work and oddly enough I'm actually doing my job as proofreader. I haven't had work done in two weeks, and this is the first time that I was given a pile of work to proofread. Sigh... summer is about it end and the new school year is starting. I haven't bought my books and checked my subjects in Ateneo. I feel so not updated.
I don't know how to manage my schedule now online and offline. Usually every morning I'd wake up at 8 to post and greet everyone a good morning and check out the avatar and sig shops. Now I wake up at 8 every morning to eat breakfast and pick out a language and a set of dance steps for nursery class. At night I'd say good night and have a little chat with the British people, but now at night I go straight to bed as I get tired easily.
Wah... darn tension of the opposites!
http://catskullcollector.deviantart.com
Also, I am kind of curious about this Britain stuff that you speak of... would you care to elaborate further?
It just kind of touches me to see so many comments now about people really enjoying the game I remember being made fun of for playing. Yet now, I'm at a college apartment where every member has at one point played the card game, and just got discouraged due to bad set quality and general lack of players. Funny how that kind of thing just goes around.
Also, Steamflogger really isn't terrible... at least it's a better Hill Giant. Did it need to be a waste of a rare? Maybe just to keep it out of the limited pool. I believe there was an explanation for it on the Wizards site, but I really don't know for sure. Sure seems like more of a preview than anything else.
Lastly, blog styles can oftentimes spark conversation. Much like I'm doing right now in responding to it Quite an extensive list you have there in the castle, too.
Also, liking pretty things is SO not gay.
... seriously though, appreciating the beauty in things should never be something that is looked down upon.
Honestly, Photon's response sums up in great deal the amount that I wish to say here. Indeed, this place has a way of changing in terms of dynamics, and older posters do certainly remember certain things about this place that have changed. However, I don't think that's what's driven people away. Honestly, a lot of the comments here, especially in the noted quotes section of this particular post, talk about how they used to come in here expecting good conversation and oftentimes the reaction is now "meh. Nothing special." To me, this is indeed a reason why I'm not often here. Still, overshadowing is a problem we've had in the past and really can't be helped just due to the immensity of the posts that are found here. It is tremendously easy to get lost in the shuffle. I've experienced it too... Remember when I was trying to really get help for Sanctuaries and stuff? I remember typically I would get one response, usually from Alacar, about the questions I posted in regards to it. It was kind of discouraging to see that happen, especially for something that was important. It really isn't a big deal, just an example. As has been said, everyone experiences it once in a while just because this place is huge.
Finally I would like to elaborate with this topic with a personal connection: The size of this place is daunting. For me, just this contribution took me an hour and a half for only 8 pages. This is a sizeable time chunk for me. Even right now, Omna is there waiting to be able to playtest Sanctuaries with me. It takes a lot to meaningfully contribute here, and THAT is a reason I think fewer of the older members post. It's time consuming to contribute in this way, and we're all busy people. Such a contribution becomes something that is reserved for "once in a while". Especially at this point for me in college. For the first time in my academic career here, I face the possibility of getting a 4.0 if I continue this path. For many of the peers that I strongly associate with, this is an experience that has been felt at least once, and I also know that my competitive major demands a better performance than people of other majors. It's scary, but getting a really good job depends fairly heavily on my performance... and there are other things in my life that are time consuming as well. So I do my best, but I truly only post here once in a while. However, I feel that my reputation here is well maintained as a result... when I am here, I do my best to be as responsive as I can. This is the first time in a LONG time I have done something this extensive though. It does make me happy when I see responses to something like this though.
Best puzzle game ever? Tetris Attack/Pokemon Puzzle League, once you got past the more childish aspects. Good AI in the upper difficulties... they actually challenged me
And so ends my long post. Thank you all for listening. Take this post for what you will.
Former R&D Development Team W leader
For your information, it's pronounced Argh + was.
Proud Co-Founder of
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Um, I can't do it on command. I'm not some sort of robot from the future!
Leather interiors, too. Also,
a dead hooker in the trunkone of those pine tree air fresheners.Who says Josh isn't invited? It's a really big back seat.
Alright, now Sakura, please get out of my body before all this innuendo causes Strongbad's head to explode.
I'll say. I know I missed out on a lot, and I sometimes wish I could do it all over, but I prefer being an adult, I think.
By long and involved, do you mean delicious and carefully prepared and seasoned?
Which, interestingly enough, was actually a feasible explanation coming from him.
Best Mu Gu Gai Pan you'd had in a while, though, right?
And we were surprised when they chased us down afterwards. If only that were the only high-speed chase I'd ever been in because of him.
Oh, yes I do. He was a nightmare on the road. But it was kind of a fun nightmare.
And yes, that resounding DIC melody still haunts my dreams.
An ostentatious queen with an HGTV fetish?
Like he had anything else to do. Or, further, like any of us had any choice but to drive through the endless nothingness of the Midwest for any purpose.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
Gaymers | Magic Coffeehouse | Little Jar of Mamelon | Natural 20
I HOPE SOMEONE READS MY OPINION
(OR EVEN NOTICE IT)
Maybe you'd notice that I post often,(And as alacar says, I post to every other reply) and Its because Im online ALL DAY because Im on my vacation. I stay All day at the house doin nothin after my chores, or when I eat, just that, other than that I sit here beside my computer and hope I'll be able to find someone to talk to here.
Im Just Very Excited to see some people(especially regulars) to come in when Im online, Since many people here tend to post when im asleep, its because of my unfortunate timezone. So when some regulars pass by, Im excited to see and read their post, even if its Super Long or Super spammy, and I dont care as long as I can talk to someone. Youre lucky to have some folks Home. As for me, Im ALL ALONE in my house. My Mom works, My dad is abroad, My bro and Sis are also at work and Im SOOOO ALONE. The coffeehouse makes me feel Im not, so Im glad and happy for every single reply.
I joined the house because I really wanted some company. I joined because I saw so many jolly people here. At first I want some stupid Custom title but with ALACAR'S Advice I didnt care about it anymore. The Reason I have 800+ posts now is because I also Frequent the Standard forums..
Seriously I Do not Intend to Spam. IF my Posts seem Spammy, then IM SORRY for that. I just would like the conversation fast. You dont know how it feels to be all alone. Not even a friend to visit me here. I occasionally sing and talk to myself just to make me busy, and as I saw the coffehouse, I became overjoyed(Thanks to stevie wonder for the word) and Immediately joined. Im glad everyone welcomed me. Everybody was like, "hey hunter, welcome!", or 'Whats up Hunter?" like that and Im surprised that people are actually noticing me. Its not like other threads that, "your list sucks" or "you dont know what your sayin". And If you guys really want some long posts, I can say topics and other things, but as other's too say, they seem ignored. But I hope nobody ignores my opinion and Im happy if you'll respect it.
Anyway I LOVE YOU ALL. THANKS FOR BEING MY GOOD FRIENDS!
ANYWAY, ILL BE THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE BUSY IN JUNE, SINCE IM A GRADUATING STUDENT THIS COMING SEMESTER, AND IM SURE ILL BE THE ONE WHOS GONNA POST LESS, SO IM ENJOYING THE POSTING WHILE I STILL CAN. I HOPE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND POOR HUNTER.
Thanks to Omna for congratulatin me..I hope I get a coffeehouse Treat!!
A BIG APPLAUSE TO THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY CALLING ME EMILY EVEN IF I DONT KINDA LIKE IT
1. Sakura
2. SapphireTRI
3. ALacar
4.Crimson AVVy
5.Dreia
6. mamelon(please dont start the cynthia thing^_^)
Monogreen 2007 | Jund Aggro MTGO 2013
Arguas does raise a good point; replying to everything in the House takes a long time; so don't be surprised if your post is ignored.
Me, I'm coughing up major pleghm; don't be alarmed, it's just my body expunging the illness I've been afflicted with. I'll continue to heal tomorrow.
Hunter, I know you don't intend to spam, and I know it can be awful boring at home alone. I'm going to be home alone ALL WEEK from next friday to next monday. It'll just be me and the cats. I'll have to take full responsibility for the house. So yeah, I'll be posting here a little more.
As for trying to help you.. I dunno. I guess I could try to be more nocturnal for you.. but I'll have responsibilities that week that need attending to (feeding cats, checking mail, watering plants, etc.)
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Ryttare Kelasin Luna Orelinalei
I really understand this point, so that's why even if my some posts are ignored Im still happy to see people mentionin me from time to time, just like you, even if you just intend to say, "hunter please post a little" or "hunter please stop postin much". You know, Just by seein the word "Hunter" in the posts touches me, and thats why Im startin to feel that, "Im noticed." BUT ANYWAY, I STILL LIKE OTHERS TO READ MY POST #2053 AND I HOPE NOBODY IGNORES IT^_^, because what ive said there is very important.
thats good to hear. I'll have a home buddy now. My fiance has work too, and the last time we had a date is may 6 and we watched spiderman 3. I'll be alone in the house again until june 20th(which is the start of classes)
Actually you dont need to be nocturnal, losing sleep will make you feel ill again alacar. Your really a good person to me and I dont want you gettin all sick again. Its fine if everyone sleeps, Myta is there also to keep me company. So, sleep right and sleep tight.^_^
Guys I hope you really read my post #2053.
Currently listenin to: Stevie Wonder - Overjoyed* or OverJOYD*
Monogreen 2007 | Jund Aggro MTGO 2013
Also.. it's been out for a long time now, (a year or so) but I've decided.
I'm editing Academy.
Yeah, I know. It's a pain on you guys 'cause you have to reinstall it on your MWS, and you just got it working. But imagine what pain it is on ME!
Changes:
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Ryttare Kelasin Luna Orelinalei
Uhhm ALacar, can you post a new dload text of this? Well anyway I hope everyone reads post#2053 so that they know my thoughts about the coffeehouse topic.
Ok, You called me both Emily and Cynthia, and Im annoyed..Geez. Well anyway my Friend Il-Dana said he will be quite busy these days. And he was ashamed because he does not frequent the forums. And btw I was the one who requested Le Gambit for his avvy/banner..So sad.
That's why nowadays I wait for about 2 or 3 posts before I reply. I hope you notice that. Well anyway I hope you also understand me by readin my previous posts..
Ok time for the fun part. Maybe "call hunter Emily/Cynthia" is quite a game now. I hope I make the full list.
Emily Count: 8
1. Sakura
2. Sapphire
3. Alacar
4. Crimson avvy
5. Dreia
6. Omna
7. Mamelon
8. Little Dragon
Cynthia Count: 2
1. Mamelon
2. Little Dragon
Anyway, Photon always make me smile.^_^
Guys, anyone here using FireFOX? Then you might be interested in reading this. Im disappointed.
*Currently listenin to: INOJ - Time after Time*
Monogreen 2007 | Jund Aggro MTGO 2013
I dont see your posts as spam, actually you really contribute alot to the thread. Well anyway, I hope you have decided on the Ford car of your choice.
ok Emily count+1. That would make a total of 9.
Emily Count: 9
1. Sakura
2. Sapphire
3. Alacar
4. Crimson avvy
5. Dreia
6. Omna
7. Mamelon
8. Little Dragon
9. Seph -owa
Sakura started callin me emily so many people joined in..anyway..
I agree. he never stops to make me smile, especially when he calls Faerie Lord Fergalicious..^_^
Thanks. And these "0-1 people to reply to" is occurring right now. Since everyone is askin a more detailed post then Im doin them. I really learned from Alacar alot. Anyway You told me before ur usin firefox, maybe u shud read the link at my post before this.
Guys Since there's still no people in here yet maybe I'll sleep early. I hope guys who havent read my post#2053 take a look at it, because its just my reaction to the previous coffeehouse arguments.
I hope when I wake up tomorrow its just like nothing have happened.
Love you guys. Always have and always will. *hugs and kisses*
*Currently listenin to : Youve Got a friend in me - From Toy Story*
Monogreen 2007 | Jund Aggro MTGO 2013
Ooh, you saucy flirt. Don't worry, I won't slap you. Very hard.
LOL.
I never had that time. I avoided going to college because I never wanted to be involved in that kind of environment again, one in which I would be forced to keep acting like I was someone I'm not.
@Shink and Photon Eater: Okay, I'm confused. Earlier in this thread, Photon Eater gave Shink a perfectly reasonable response to a question, which apparently wasn't enough for Shink because he replied in an asperitous, rude way, for no real reason. So, Photon criticized his response and defended himself, using sarcasm, of course, and he gets warned for it. But Shink didn't. How come?
Shink incited the conflict, and was the one acting nasty. Photon was just sticking up for himself and basically asking "What gives?" That doesn't even resemble flaming. And if did, a lot more posts than that would be warnable. Photon's reply was reasonable, relevent, and it was not attacking a member personally.
@Hunter: I can tell you're excited to talk with people, and I figured that's why you posted so often. I'm glad you're considering requests to slow down and taking that to heart, even if you weren't really spamming.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
Gaymers | Magic Coffeehouse | Little Jar of Mamelon | Natural 20
Anyway, you can interpret that anyway you like, I don't really care.
Sidenote: I didn't need an "answer", Mamelon did, thanks.
Except that rather than drugs my crazy high school days involved Pixie Stix....
So, a couple things:
Omna that was a fantastic post. I'll toss in my own testimonial on my feelings of belonging at the 'House. When I first started coming I mostly just hung out and didn't say much. From time to time I'd have a comment to add to the discussion, so I would. And my comments were rarely acknowledged or responded to. That didn't bother me in the least at first, but it went on for quite some time and eventually I got a bit disheartened. When I expressed my frustration, I was assured by everyone that I really was noticed and appreciated. And you know what? Within a couple weeks of that I felt like a valued member of the 'House. I was much more involved in conversations, and I was on the receiving end of compliments I never expected to hear.
So the moral of the story is, that feeling left out sometimes is just the nature of forums; it's unavoidable. But when you do feel that way, you need to realize that the people here value you a lot more than you realize.
And I think the name I'll call Hunter by will be Margo. No particular reason. It just sounds amusing to me.
Current New Favorite Person™: Mallory Archer
She knows why.
I do understand that you feel very alone and I do hope we help you to feel better. I do however agree with FL that it might help you to branch into posting in other clans in addition to the coffeehouse. Keep on being a member of the coffeehouse, and enjoying conversations here with us, but also mabey check into another one and be friends with that clan. That way you can have a broader base of people to chat it up with and more chances to catch people when they are awake.
The forum games section is also a great place to relax and have fun with people, and there are always extendo sigs. Myta has a great extendo sig in the testing ground, and it's a fun place to do chatty things. And one of the best parts is that you can't get spam warnings there! hehe
Hehe!
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ArgusArguas I'm working on a response to your post as well. Just so you know.Thanks for you're insight Kraj. You have a great perspective and understanding of how forums work in the big picture, and also how the coffeehouse works.
I'm feeling really tired everyone. This is probably my last post for the day, so I will see you all later.
Just know that I'm glad we had this big group conversation, and I'm still jelous of all you people getting to enjoy pokemon. I want a mew.
Coffeehouse's Status: As many people here know, I'm not particularly good at making lengthy post. In fact, I'd go to say I'm one of those people that has a lot of three and four liners here.
The problem is that I don't really have a lot to say most days as many times not much really happens to me and when it does I'm not one for going on at length about these things. I do try to pay attention to most posts here, however, and try to reply to as many as I have something to say about as possible.
In any case, I hope the 'House can get to a nature that everyone equally loves.
@Hunter: I've read post #2053 and I get what you're saying. Not sure if it really changes much for me though as I tend to judge on the majority of the posts I've seen and frankly I've been skipping some of yours. This means, for some reason, that your posts seem less pertinent to me. This doesn't mean they aren't pertinent at all but I just don't read some of them. Then again there are a BUNCH of posts I don't read - especially when I first get on (like the page or so since I've last read posts - at 40 posts per page).
Good luck with your finals, etc tho.
And mine is worse than yours still for some reason - and I can't work on it till the next version of MSE comes out. Apparently, they're making FPM frames part of the main MSE application and they don't work now. At least I can work on a custom Planeshifted set in the meantime for fun.
Hey, I still respect the hell out of you, but bailing on a time when simple discussion can solve a problem, and maybe even foster friendship, juts doesn't seem right. I hope you return.
There's nothing to change. Jack left not that long ago, and we've been doing the same thing we always have been. At the end of the day, we're not going to make everyone happy, and trying to do so will only cause the place to change more than it already has. This particular squabble is between Shink, and Josh. If Shink wants to leave the house, and not resolve it, then that's his perogative. It's not our job to do so.
I echo my previous sentiments. Also, I don't think Photon was being harsh at all. Josh is the type of guy that is seems edgy at first, but when you get to know him, he's a sensitive, and caring individual. It's never his intention to directly hurt someone, and treating this situation like he is is wrong.
Agreed. Conversation lately feels forced, or, sometimes, it even feels like an IM conversation put on the forums.
Exactly.
Indeed.
Again, I echo my previous statements.
This is invariably true. Josh is a reallly great guy, and once you give him a chane, you'll know exactly whatI am talking about.
I've been through this, myself. Honestly, no matter how hard we try, there will always be times when this occurs. It's not fun to go through, but you really can't take it to heart. It's nothig personal, it just happens.
I have to agree. Change will inevitably happen in an enviroment such as this, but I would still like that our core beliefs aren't altered.
Shaharazad, I must admit, when I read your anti-prom idea, I felt put-off. I was in a suit waiting for the time to go pick up my date, anf there was something slapping that in the face. I also knew that you didn't intend it as such, so I didn't respond.
Excellent analogy. Also, at the end of the day, some people just don't have the capacity to respond to certain topics. It's much like when I didn't respond to the anti-prom, or when it was only me an strongbad arguing about the Bible, while everyone else went on with their conversations. Sometimes, not everyone will be privy to talking about a topic, no matter how much it means to you.
Although it's unfortunte, I hav ehtough that about some members when a dramatic post was made about getting ignored. I, myself, have made such a post, and later found myself shaking my head at my own actions.
I completely agree, the conversation hijacking has got ot stop.
Exactly.
Ok, that's enough. I am not trying to be rude here, but this is not needed. We all read your posts, and appreciate your presence, you do not have to add a huge tag on your post, like no one ever notices you. Basically,this type of action only says to me "I want attention, so give it to me. NOW!"
Honestly, I am glad you enjoy this place enough to invest a lot of time in it. However, you do not have to reply to absolutely everything that is posted, as that can both seem like attention-seeking, and ++ery. I have no problem conversing with you, but, please, just dial it back a notch. You're a valued member, so you don't need to keep trying to prove you are.
This is not ok. If you can't add something to the conversation without spamming, then wait until you can. we haven't supported spam in the house since it's creation, and I don't want to start doing so now.
You can find sompany on AIM, or MSN, or even PMs. But having those types of conversation in the house just takes over the thread.
I just wanted to note that me and my fellow Mods are discussing last night's happenings right now. I will let you know what we we come up with. I'm sorry that that doesn't help much, but that's the best I can do
Also, Mamelon, I want you to know something. I tend to not reply to your posts, because you usually say exactly what I am thinking, but in a much more eloquent way. I hope it doesn't come accross as me ignoring you.
what was the error/Issue? I may be able to help ya avoid it and or perm fix it.
RON PAUL
R[ƎVO˩]UTION
The Philosophy of Liberty
I would like to echo Mamelon's sentiments quoted on this issue. Photon's response was characteristically abrasive, but nowhere near bad enough to even make me think, "Geez, that was a little over the top". I've seen much worse from Photon that still didn't make me think he was out of line.
In other matters...
I avoided saying this earlier because I didn't want to add negativity to the discussion but it seems that's being done anyway so I'll just lay it out there: there is a certain posting style that I feel contributes to the 'House's current situation, which is a post that contains very large quotes, especially ones that combine many of them and with very short responses. It's not uncommon to see a post take up a half page but have very little new content. For example, I regularly see a post that quotes an entire RotW or Anime otW, etc., and then responds with "Congratulations!" or "Great job! That's my favorite anime!". Often, posters will have several quotes & responses like that in their post.
I don't mean to pick on anyone in particular, but the most common complaint members have is that they are overwhelmed by the sheer number of pages to go through every day and posts like that are a huge contributor. It's just not that hard to remove or trim the posts you've quoted after you've done writing your responses.
That's all I'll say about it. Again, I don't want to pick on anyone or hurt their feelings, but I just think it's an easy way to help alleviate some of the problems people are expressing.
Current New Favorite Person™: Mallory Archer
She knows why.
Hell, I've said much worse to you Kraj, and we both ended up warning free.
What I was told was that the warning was because basically due to the fact that it was directed at someone who wasn't familiar with my communication style, and they could A) perceive it as a flame, and/or B) it could construe to passerbys or new members that it's alright to flame. Personally, I think that is a bit of an unfounded concern due to the fact that in over a year since this place has existed sarcastic comments from myself and many other people (I'm looking at you, Florida) have gone by without any hugely negative repercussions or flame wars. This clan has required relatively little moderator intervention in it's existence, so I honestly feel that a lone misunderstanding will not lead to grand flame wars, but by the same token I understand the concern, as I myself have a personal rule not to joke around that way with people who are basically "unexposed", as it were- a rule that I broke in this particular case because I was annoyed at what I perceived to be rudeness and laziness.
I later PMed Shink and explained, "Look, I thought you were rude, but I never had any intention to sound as if I were actually mocking or trying to shame you" and then welcomed him to the clan and encouraged him to return. This was long before he ever made his post to withdraw from here, and many many hours before my warning (my first ever, I'll point out, so I'm really not concerned with it either way.)
I'll admit I balk at the idea of changing my own posting style after a year of it being appropriate, but I'll concede to a mere warning on this point because the internet is a homogenizing medium, and you really lose a good deal of tone to other's interpretations- a fact that lead to a rather sticky misunderstanding in this particular case.
To be honest, a warning won't kill me. However, something does bother me about the situation and that is the notion that someone in this clan would consider me a troll after all this time despite the fact that is has been established over and over again that if I were really as nasty as I pretend to be sometimes, I would never be caught dead hanging out in such a
spam castlelovely place such as this.I do appreciate the support, though. And I am glad that conversation is moving along without a lot of wounded egos and tear-streaked departure posts.
Like I said, I never intentionally mock people except for Alacar.
As we have been discussing, many people feel skimmed over, and it is particularly common among newer members who have yet to carve a niche into the group and have yet to learn the social dynamic. I've seen a LOT of new members since I have been here. Some come in and leave before long without much of an impact, but others adapt to the way it works here and stick around, like Kraj said. People are inherently slow to accept others. I think it has something to do with how they are mostly *******s, but that's besides the point. I've always thought that the people who really want to become a part of a clan find a way to get themselves involved in it. They share, they comment, they open up to new people, and most importantly, they fall head over heels for my sister and make me hate them and threaten them with violence.