We used to fool around with RPGMaker a hell of a lot, but when technical conflicts arose between it and our current PC we had to uninstall it. I asked a while ago if Josh would mind me installing one of the newer ones on Ballad (this PC), but he didn't seem jazzed.
I'd adore being the Manson type, myself. Seph, you an' me will have us a knife fight over it, yo! Also, if everyone else wants instruments I'd be all about vocals. I sing anyway, so it'd be just fine with me =)
Everyone sings sweety. Everyone can be a singer if you equip them with a Mic, and everyone has a list of instruments they can play.
Example:
Character A can use Guitar, Piano, Dark Symphonic
Character B can use Bass, Drum, Horn
Character C can use Bass, Traditional Asian, Horn
Character D (your main character) can use Drum, Guitar, Dark Symphonic
You start the battle equiped as follows:
A: Dark Symphonic
B: Guitar
C: Bass
D: Mic
You can select any song D can sing which use Dark Symphonic, Guitar and Bass.
The song ends, you swap everyones equipment around as such.
A: Guitar
B: Bass
C: Mic
D: Drum
Straight forward generic band setup. Now you can select songs that C can sing which require a Guitar, Bass and Drum.
Character A now gets physical attacks using Guitar(Axe:p ), B has Bass, C has Mic, D has Drum.
Characters also may get spells based on the song being sung and any particular affinity they have with the music style, lyrics and singer (and in some cases, related to their instrument)
For instance; myself being based on Tarja from Nightwish would be able to perform "I Wish I had Your Angle" and would have spells based on the lyrics. One of which may be "Angel Wish" which would summon an Angel like a FF summon.
If Photon as Klaha plays "Beast of Blood" or "Baptism in Blood", think of the fun.
Experience system; Rather than gaining experience and levels, the characters gain popularity. NPC's start noticing you more, and fans give you stuff which act like level ups. So some crazed Mr' Stuff fan could ask him to sign her chest, which then boosts his confidance and levels up his strength or something.
Everyone sings sweety. Everyone can be a singer if you equip them with a Mic, and everyone has a list of instruments they can play.
Example:
Character A can use Guitar, Piano, Dark Symphonic
Character B can use Bass, Drum, Horn
Character C can use Bass, Traditional Asian, Horn
Character D (your main character) can use Drum, Guitar, Dark Symphonic
You start the battle equiped as follows:
A: Dark Symphonic
B: Guitar
C: Bass
D: Mic
You can select any song D can sing which use Dark Symphonic, Guitar and Bass.
The song ends, you swap everyones equipment around as such.
A: Guitar
B: Bass
C: Mic
D: Drum
Straight forward generic band setup. Now you can select songs that C can sing which require a Guitar, Bass and Drum.
Character A now gets physical attacks using Guitar(Axe:p ), B has Bass, C has Mic, D has Drum.
Characters also may get spells based on the song being sung and any particular affinity they have with the music style, lyrics and singer (and in some cases, related to their instrument)
For instance; myself being based on Tarja from Nightwish would be able to perform "I Wish I had Your Angle" and would have spells based on the lyrics. One of which may be "Angel Wish" which would summon an Angel like a FF summon.
If Photon as Klaha plays "Beast of Blood" or "Baptism in Blood", think of the fun.
That is a truly innovative idea for an RPG, Shin! I applaud your ingenuity and creativity! I'm very jealous of your imagination right now.
I'm surprised something like this has never been done before.
I definitely would want- Dark Symphonic, Piano, and Synthesizer, myself.
Yes. I currently use XP. I kind of leapfrogged 2003, but I'm familiar with its features. Photon, I would encourage you to check out the PC incarnations of RPG maker. They are beautifully simple to use, and you can do more or less anything you want with them once you become more familiar with the guts. At the same time, simply rolling with the 'defaults' on many things will seldom let you down. (It's not necessary to muck around with everything muck-around-able to produce something fairly unique.) They are flexible enough, however, that people have made non-RPG games with them. I confess that I'm not particularly experienced with any of the programs, but there are excellent tutorials, particularly for 2000 and 2003, which have been around longer. It's a near-magical time sink; I've blown hours fiddling around with single spell animations.
In the past, every time I have used it, I have ended up totally screwing up my computer, so I haven't gone near it in about 3 or 4 years.
OH, okay! It's kind of like Rhapsody then, only not terrible =)
Well, if I have to choose an instrument I'll choose one I haven't seen yet. How about a keyboard? One of those synth jobs that's slung over one shoulder =)
In other news...certain developments on the site have put me in an incredibly giddy mood. I wish I had something to toast with right about now.
Thank you Photon, that means alot especially from you.
I am actually very proud of myself for it. It really sounds like a blast to play.
If I can figure out how to code it, I want "cords" people can play for some special spells. Like the Martial Arts in FF6. Kinda Guitar Heroish. Only a few spells will work this way though...do not want to make the game complex like that for every spell.
Thank you Photon, that means alot especially from you.
I am actually very proud of myself for it. It really sounds like a blast to play.
If I can figure out how to code it, I want "cords" people can play for some special spells. Like the Martial Arts in FF6. Kinda Guitar Heroish. Only a few spells will work this way though...do not want to make the game complex like that for every spell.
Or even a mechanic similar to the ocarina in the various Zelda titles would be interesting- wait, that's basically the same idea, isn't it?
If you do come up with such a mechanic, let me know. I would like to know how you coded it for my own console game, as I have a character in it who was a street dancer who I always wanted to use a Dance command that involved hitting certain button combinations to a displayed rhythm, a la Bust A Move.
eeeee, game design is so cool. I get so giddy talking about it.
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Thank you Photon, that means alot especially from you.
I am actually very proud of myself for it. It really sounds like a blast to play.
If I can figure out how to code it, I want "cords" people can play for some special spells. Like the Martial Arts in FF6. Kinda Guitar Heroish. Only a few spells will work this way though...do not want to make the game complex like that for every spell.
It really does sound like a fun idea. I know if I saw a game with mechanics like that sitting on a store shelf, we'd be all about it =)
For inspiration on how musical-style abilities might work, I highly suggest looking up battle mechanics from games in the Paper Mario series, Tales of the Abyss, and the soon to be released Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata. They all have mechanics that revolve around timing, rhythm, and motiion, so you might find some inspiration there. As for actually coding it in...eh, it could be tough. But if you know someone intimate enough with RPGMaker they might be able to make some patches for you. I was gonna have to do that for the game I was working on ~_~;;
Or even a mechanic similar to the ocarina in the various Zelda titles would be interesting- wait, that's basically the same idea, isn't it?
If you do come up with such a mechanic, let me know. I would like to know how you coded it for my own console game, as I have a character in it who was a street dancer who I always wanted to use a Dance command that involved hitting certain button combinations to a displayed rhythm, a la Bust A Move.
eeeee, game design is so cool. I get so giddy talking about it.
I will definately share sweety. Cant remember ever seeing you giddy...are you ill? * ShinSakura gets a rectal thermometer
Hurray..the real Bust a Move...die Puzzle Bobble...bo on stealing good names.
It really does sound like a fun idea. I know if I saw a game with mechanics like that sitting on a store shelf, we'd be all about it =)
For inspiration on how musical-style abilities might work, I highly suggest looking up battle mechanics from games in the Paper Mario series, Tales of the Abyss, and the soon to be released Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata. They all have mechanics that revolve around timing, rhythm, and motiion, so you might find some inspiration there. As for actually coding it in...eh, it could be tough. But if you know someone intimate enough with RPGMaker they might be able to make some patches for you. I was gonna have to do that for the game I was working on ~_~;;
I picked up RPGmaker really fast last time, and stunned people with some of the stuff I did. I appreciate any help I can get however.
It really does sound like a fun idea. I know if I saw a game with mechanics like that sitting on a store shelf, we'd be all about it =)
For inspiration on how musical-style abilities might work, I highly suggest looking up battle mechanics from games in the Paper Mario series, Tales of the Abyss, and the soon to be released Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata. They all have mechanics that revolve around timing, rhythm, and motiion, so you might find some inspiration there. As for actually coding it in...eh, it could be tough. But if you know someone intimate enough with RPGMaker they might be able to make some patches for you. I was gonna have to do that for the game I was working on ~_~;;
The higher end RPGM programs are amazingly flexible if you can get into them deep enough. I've seen titles that barely resemble RPGs at all- Starcraft-style titles, TOP sort of games, and dating sims- so something like that shouldn't be impossible.
Cant remember ever seeing you giddy...are you ill?
No, I just really, really, REALLY love game design in all its forms. It's something I really enjoy and really feel passionately about, so I get very excited about it. It's a side of myself that doesn't come out much in here, but I am the sort of person who becomes very, very enthusiastic about things.
I am pleased as well, Seph. I just really hope it sticks, ya know? Gods know things like this have a habit of being arbitrarily overturned.
If you like Manson, I suggest you look up Dir en Grey. They're a J-rock band that remind me a lot of Manson's music, and Kyo, the lead singer, acts a lot like him. Not as good vocally, but still entertaining =)
Sorry for butting in here... But I was:
1: Wondeirng if I will have any chance of being in said game atm? Or whether Ether has comandeered Manson... If I can, I'll be anyone really, I just know Manson more
Other thing... Has anyone seen the lated bannings on MTGS?
I was shocked.... But kinda pleased... (They were never nice to me.)
I'm gonna say the same thing I did when TFE was banned-I know we all will have different but very strong opinions on the topic, and I know it is on everyone's lips, but conversations like this can get pretty ugly pretty quickly.
I can't stop anyone from talking about it, I'm just saying I won't hesitate to hit that little red "report post" button if anyone starts getting flamey or trolly- and I would expect everyone else in here to do the same. So, please, please, PLEASE, guys, let's try and keep the drama to the minimum here. We all know that forum drama in the House is the domain of SapphireTri and myself, so don't go stepping on our toes, alright?
On Manson: I'm pretty sure Josh would fight you on knowing him "better." He's a massive fan, and has been for years and years. There are probably all kinds of Jrock celebs you could be- what sort of musician archetype did you have in mind? Maybe we could help you find a nice Jrock/pop persona to adopt.
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I am pleased as well, Seph. I just really hope it sticks, ya know? Gods know things like this have a habit of being arbitrarily overturned.
I'm pleased too (as my post on SYM says). But honestly if people want this to stick or not stick one way or the other the best way is to let it be known your opinions on this. Especially considering how hard a decision it was just to do it in the first place.
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Welcome back from holiday! How was it?
* Crimson Avatar serves a piping hot cup of triple shot espresso.
And if you wanna know what's going on just check the Speak Your Mind forum. All the info lies in there I believe.
I wasn't saying I liked Manson more than Josh, just that I know him more than the other musicians
* Sephiroth Owa goes back to the newly acquired Pokemon Ranger.
Sakura's RPG and the 2 bannings.
How is Ranger, by the way? Josh has been wanting to try it out for a while.
@Shin: When you say that people get to "be" certain musicians, what do you mean, exactly? That might help people's decisions a bit more.
Like, is the Photon character gonna actually be Klaha, or will he be a character named Photon who is just styled after Klaha, or will it be a character styled after both myself AND Klaha?
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Kyo from Dir en Grey is good Owa....he is one of my favs. they have some light stuff, but most is dark heavy and macabre. Go find the Uncensored version of Obscure on youtube. It has geishas with cybernetic "prosthetics", and Kyo is always vomitting. Best video ever.
@Photon: I mean i select an assortment of songs sung by that singer and edit each one to about a minute. When your character sings, these songs play.
The characters will have a balanced set of elements from both the House member and the singer, but mainly from who you really are. You will Be Photon Eater...you will sing Klaha songs with Klaha's voice.
@Photon: I mean i select an assortment of songs sung by that singer and edit each one to about a minute. When your character sings, these songs play.
The characters will have a balanced set of elements from both the House member and the singer, but mainly from who you really are. You will Be Photon Eater...you will sing Klaha songs with Klaha's voice.
Oh LORD I like that idea
Mostly because it means I could have a special attack called "Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz Ziggety Zag" or a healing ability called "Coma White," but also...I love song samples used as sound effects. For serious.
That's it, Saki-chan. If I can get Led Zeppelin, I'm claiming it. Either that or one of the three I mentioned.
As for KCW and BB...
KCW I can completely understand. He had been infracted far too much and did far too little for the forum constructively except give us a few laughs, which even I admit to chuckling to. I still dunno how the heck the mod for the Gutter got most Helpful Member 2006. Took me a while just to campaign around Mamelon for Nicest.
As for BB, the admins pulled rank on this one. He needed to be more careful what he said, that's all.
@ Ranger... It's awesome.. A lot of stories at the beginning though :/
Gotta go for a while, make sure KCW stays banned and wish me good Prison break luck
Of course you get a part, unless anyone says otherwise they are in :-P Everyone will be able to select themselves as the main character (the rest are rotatable)
I am pleased as well, Seph. I just really hope it sticks, ya know? Gods know things like this have a habit of being arbitrarily overturned.
No guarantees, but I strongly doubt that would happen. I can't share any specifics of what is said in the mod area (so don't even ask) but I can say that there was a lot of discussion involved in this decision. I highly doubt anything can be said or done that would change Lesurgo's or Sed's mind.
I'm gonna say the same thing I did when TFE was banned-I know we all will have different but very strong opinions on the topic, and I know it is on everyone's lips, but conversations like this can get pretty ugly pretty quickly.
I can't stop anyone from talking about it, I'm just saying I won't hesitate to hit that little red "report post" button if anyone starts getting flamey or trolly- and I would expect everyone else in here to do the same. So, please, please, PLEASE, guys, let's try and keep the drama to the minimum here.
Nicely said. The threads in SYM will undoubtedly be active for quite some time, so why not keep the bulk of the discussion there. No need to duplicate it here.
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Wheeeeel hello coffee-folk, and happy Monday to you all (if Mondays can indeed be happy)
So I believe I'm all caught up on this music RPG deal, and well, if its anything like I think it is, Phil Oakey form Human League would be awesome; Not to mention the Synthesizer is the sexiest sounding instrument ever IMO ^_^;;
So like, can we pick several people or what? because I've always wanted to make a super group of Phil, Murray Head, Kim Wilde, and Gary Numan...
NEW WAVE!
yeah... anywho...
you all know what I want...
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I might actually be able to help you with the art, 'Fox. I have some beautiful pieces lying around that I was going to use for a Natural 20 competition, but I never got around to it. I'll send you some things via PM and see what you think, if I can find the pics.
@Kraj: That's good to hear. I really doubt that the decision was come to lightly, and I don't really need to know the specifics to be pleased with the result.
In other news, I just made a kick-ass banner for LittleDragon. I don't normally laud myself, but this one's a winner.
Wheeeeel hello coffee-folk, and happy Monday to you all (if Mondays can indeed be happy)
So I believe I'm all caught up on this music RPG deal, and well, if its anything like I think it is, Phil Oakey form Human League would be awesome; Not to mention the Synthesizer is the sexiest sounding instrument ever IMO ^_^;;
So like, can we pick several people or what? because I've always wanted to make a super group of Phil, Murray Head, Kim Wilde, and Gary Numan...
NEW WAVE!
yeah... anywho...
you all know what I want...
Do you really want your singing voice to be male sweety?
I'm fairly pleased about the bannings. Butteblues used to be a great member but lately he'd been acting much differently than he used to. It's almost like something happened that made him wonder if he really wanted to stay on the site.
Lillian: It's either synthesizer or trombone(r) :p.
I'll read back at what I missed now ;).
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Everyone sings sweety. Everyone can be a singer if you equip them with a Mic, and everyone has a list of instruments they can play.
Example:
Character A can use Guitar, Piano, Dark Symphonic
Character B can use Bass, Drum, Horn
Character C can use Bass, Traditional Asian, Horn
Character D (your main character) can use Drum, Guitar, Dark Symphonic
You start the battle equiped as follows:
A: Dark Symphonic
B: Guitar
C: Bass
D: Mic
You can select any song D can sing which use Dark Symphonic, Guitar and Bass.
The song ends, you swap everyones equipment around as such.
A: Guitar
B: Bass
C: Mic
D: Drum
Straight forward generic band setup. Now you can select songs that C can sing which require a Guitar, Bass and Drum.
Character A now gets physical attacks using Guitar(Axe:p ), B has Bass, C has Mic, D has Drum.
Characters also may get spells based on the song being sung and any particular affinity they have with the music style, lyrics and singer (and in some cases, related to their instrument)
For instance; myself being based on Tarja from Nightwish would be able to perform "I Wish I had Your Angle" and would have spells based on the lyrics. One of which may be "Angel Wish" which would summon an Angel like a FF summon.
If Photon as Klaha plays "Beast of Blood" or "Baptism in Blood", think of the fun.
Experience system; Rather than gaining experience and levels, the characters gain popularity. NPC's start noticing you more, and fans give you stuff which act like level ups. So some crazed Mr' Stuff fan could ask him to sign her chest, which then boosts his confidance and levels up his strength or something.
That is a truly innovative idea for an RPG, Shin! I applaud your ingenuity and creativity! I'm very jealous of your imagination right now.
I'm surprised something like this has never been done before.
I definitely would want- Dark Symphonic, Piano, and Synthesizer, myself.
In the past, every time I have used it, I have ended up totally screwing up my computer, so I haven't gone near it in about 3 or 4 years.
Well, if I have to choose an instrument I'll choose one I haven't seen yet. How about a keyboard? One of those synth jobs that's slung over one shoulder =)
In other news...certain developments on the site have put me in an incredibly giddy mood. I wish I had something to toast with right about now.
I am actually very proud of myself for it. It really sounds like a blast to play.
If I can figure out how to code it, I want "cords" people can play for some special spells. Like the Martial Arts in FF6. Kinda Guitar Heroish. Only a few spells will work this way though...do not want to make the game complex like that for every spell.
Or even a mechanic similar to the ocarina in the various Zelda titles would be interesting- wait, that's basically the same idea, isn't it?
If you do come up with such a mechanic, let me know. I would like to know how you coded it for my own console game, as I have a character in it who was a street dancer who I always wanted to use a Dance command that involved hitting certain button combinations to a displayed rhythm, a la Bust A Move.
eeeee, game design is so cool. I get so giddy talking about it.
It really does sound like a fun idea. I know if I saw a game with mechanics like that sitting on a store shelf, we'd be all about it =)
For inspiration on how musical-style abilities might work, I highly suggest looking up battle mechanics from games in the Paper Mario series, Tales of the Abyss, and the soon to be released Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata. They all have mechanics that revolve around timing, rhythm, and motiion, so you might find some inspiration there. As for actually coding it in...eh, it could be tough. But if you know someone intimate enough with RPGMaker they might be able to make some patches for you. I was gonna have to do that for the game I was working on ~_~;;
I will definately share sweety. Cant remember ever seeing you giddy...are you ill?
* ShinSakura gets a rectal thermometer
Hurray..the real Bust a Move...die Puzzle Bobble...bo on stealing good names.
I picked up RPGmaker really fast last time, and stunned people with some of the stuff I did. I appreciate any help I can get however.
The higher end RPGM programs are amazingly flexible if you can get into them deep enough. I've seen titles that barely resemble RPGs at all- Starcraft-style titles, TOP sort of games, and dating sims- so something like that shouldn't be impossible.
No, I just really, really, REALLY love game design in all its forms. It's something I really enjoy and really feel passionately about, so I get very excited about it. It's a side of myself that doesn't come out much in here, but I am the sort of person who becomes very, very enthusiastic about things.
I also used to code and sprite edit for Mugen as well.
* ShinSakura drops a knife, a potato and a kitten on the ground and walks away to watch the bloody fun
If you like Manson, I suggest you look up Dir en Grey. They're a J-rock band that remind me a lot of Manson's music, and Kyo, the lead singer, acts a lot like him. Not as good vocally, but still entertaining =)
I'm gonna say the same thing I did when TFE was banned-I know we all will have different but very strong opinions on the topic, and I know it is on everyone's lips, but conversations like this can get pretty ugly pretty quickly.
I can't stop anyone from talking about it, I'm just saying I won't hesitate to hit that little red "report post" button if anyone starts getting flamey or trolly- and I would expect everyone else in here to do the same. So, please, please, PLEASE, guys, let's try and keep the drama to the minimum here. We all know that forum drama in the House is the domain of SapphireTri and myself, so don't go stepping on our toes, alright?
On Manson: I'm pretty sure Josh would fight you on knowing him "better." He's a massive fan, and has been for years and years. There are probably all kinds of Jrock celebs you could be- what sort of musician archetype did you have in mind? Maybe we could help you find a nice Jrock/pop persona to adopt.
I'm pleased too (as my post on SYM says). But honestly if people want this to stick or not stick one way or the other the best way is to let it be known your opinions on this. Especially considering how hard a decision it was just to do it in the first place.
Welcome back from holiday! How was it?
* Crimson Avatar serves a piping hot cup of triple shot espresso.
And if you wanna know what's going on just check the Speak Your Mind forum. All the info lies in there I believe.
How is Ranger, by the way? Josh has been wanting to try it out for a while.
@Shin: When you say that people get to "be" certain musicians, what do you mean, exactly? That might help people's decisions a bit more.
Like, is the Photon character gonna actually be Klaha, or will he be a character named Photon who is just styled after Klaha, or will it be a character styled after both myself AND Klaha?
@Photon: I mean i select an assortment of songs sung by that singer and edit each one to about a minute. When your character sings, these songs play.
The characters will have a balanced set of elements from both the House member and the singer, but mainly from who you really are. You will Be Photon Eater...you will sing Klaha songs with Klaha's voice.
Oh LORD I like that idea
Mostly because it means I could have a special attack called "Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz Ziggety Zag" or a healing ability called "Coma White," but also...I love song samples used as sound effects. For serious.
I think it's a great idea, and it's going to be very cool when it's done.
As for KCW and BB...
KCW I can completely understand. He had been infracted far too much and did far too little for the forum constructively except give us a few laughs, which even I admit to chuckling to. I still dunno how the heck the mod for the Gutter got most Helpful Member 2006. Took me a while just to campaign around Mamelon for Nicest.
As for BB, the admins pulled rank on this one. He needed to be more careful what he said, that's all.
...and oh yeah.
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Of course you get a part, unless anyone says otherwise they are in :-P Everyone will be able to select themselves as the main character (the rest are rotatable)
No guarantees, but I strongly doubt that would happen. I can't share any specifics of what is said in the mod area (so don't even ask) but I can say that there was a lot of discussion involved in this decision. I highly doubt anything can be said or done that would change Lesurgo's or Sed's mind.
Nicely said. The threads in SYM will undoubtedly be active for quite some time, so why not keep the bulk of the discussion there. No need to duplicate it here.
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So I believe I'm all caught up on this music RPG deal, and well, if its anything like I think it is, Phil Oakey form Human League would be awesome; Not to mention the Synthesizer is the sexiest sounding instrument ever IMO ^_^;;
So like, can we pick several people or what? because I've always wanted to make a super group of Phil, Murray Head, Kim Wilde, and Gary Numan...
NEW WAVE!
yeah... anywho...
you all know what I want...
But I did find these two gems.
I'll keep looking.
edit: Meh? Any good?
edit2: Meh? Yes? No?
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@Kraj: That's good to hear. I really doubt that the decision was come to lightly, and I don't really need to know the specifics to be pleased with the result.
In other news, I just made a kick-ass banner for LittleDragon. I don't normally laud myself, but this one's a winner.
Do you really want your singing voice to be male sweety?
Lillian: It's either synthesizer or trombone(r) :p.
I'll read back at what I missed now ;).