Jiminiy christmas... finally found the most current thread. I don't really post on these forums at all I'm just here for the spoilers and the happenings in the rumor mill. Then I saw someone's sig had "Gaymers" in it and I was like omfg no way... then hello here it all is. A holy grail of gaming. *moan* I sadly however have not read a vast majority of the multiple threads however I would like to join up w/the group at least in name if possible. My name is William but Xeonio is the handle I use everywhere. You can visit my teams website at www.redriveralliance.com (we're all about the MTG). I'm the only rainbow oriented of our group though (at least until I get everyone plastered and they pass out *cackle*). Sadly most of them have built up a tolerance to the sleep inducing narcotics. But whatever.
So hello and bye and best wishes to all the guys and gals and inbetweens.
That's a ... um ... interesting arrangement. How'd that come about?
Well, his mother (whom I love dearly) made the offer (more of a soft demand, really), claiming that I work too much, smoke too much, and drink too much; that I don't sleep, eat, or socialize enough; that, to use her words, I'm slowly wearing myself out. She thinks that I "need a chance to breathe a bit". I resisted at first, for many reasons, but I've spoken at length with both her and Chris about it, and I have finally conceded.
Jiminiy christmas... finally found the most current thread. I don't really post on these forums at all I'm just here for the spoilers and the happenings in the rumor mill. Then I saw someone's sig had "Gaymers" in it and I was like omfg no way... then hello here it all is. A holy grail of gaming. *moan* I sadly however have not read a vast majority of the multiple threads however I would like to join up w/the group at least in name if possible. My name is William but Xeonio is the handle I use everywhere. You can visit my teams website at www.redriveralliance.com (we're all about the MTG). I'm the only rainbow oriented of our group though (at least until I get everyone plastered and they pass out *cackle*). Sadly most of them have built up a tolerance to the sleep inducing narcotics. But whatever.
So hello and bye and best wishes to all the guys and gals and inbetweens.
Welcome. Though there's no need to post and dash. Stick around, tell us more about yourself.
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Well, his mother (whom I love dearly) made the offer (more of a soft demand, really), claiming that I work too much, smoke too much, and drink too much; that I don't sleep, eat, or socialize enough; that, to use her words, I'm slowly wearing myself out. She thinks that I "need a chance to breathe a bit". I resisted at first, for many reasons, but I've spoken at length with both her and Chris about it, and I have finally conceded.
Wow. That's really cool of her. You're lucky. Most parents nowadays don't even give two ****s about their own kids, let alone kids that aren't really their responsibility. She sounds like one of those decent people I hear about every so often. What was Chris' reaction?
Wow. That's really cool of her. You're lucky. Most parents nowadays don't even give two ****s about their own kids, let alone kids that aren't really their responsibility. She sounds like one of those decent people I hear about every so often.
She is probably one of the most amazing women I've ever met; leaps and bounds, needless to say, above Alex's mother.
What was Chris' reaction?
Well, it was funny. I hadn't spoken to him in quite some time when he called me a few nights ago. We chatted about random crap for a bit, I made a few snarky remarks about Church and all that, and then he just says, "I really think you should consider Mom's offer, you know." I stated my objections---the awkwardness of living with my ex, the awkwardness of him becoming a brother-figure and his mom becoming a mother, the drastic change in my lifestyle, etc----to which he responded, "**** it, just do it, you know it's the right thing to do." He was oddly supportive of the idea, in short.
She is probably one of the most amazing women I've ever met; leaps and bounds, needless to say, above Alex's mother.
I think that goes without saying.
Well, it was funny. I hadn't spoken to him in quite some time when he called me a few nights ago. We chatted about random crap for a bit, I made a few snarky remarks about Church and all that, and then he just says, "I really think you should consider Mom's offer, you know." I stated my objections---the awkwardness of living with my ex, the awkwardness of him becoming a brother-figure and his mom becoming a mother, the drastic change in my lifestyle, etc----to which he responded, "**** it, just do it, you know it's the right thing to do." He was oddly supportive of the idea, in short.
Wow, how completely unexpected of him. Though I'm glad he's supportive. He could have easily not been.
Where do you stand on your objections now? I think accepting her offer is probably the best move for you, but your reservations aren't unfounded. In the interests of not screwing up a potentially good thing, I think your reservations should be addressed, assuming they haven't been already.
Wow, how completely unexpected of him. Though I'm glad he's supportive. He could have easily not been.
My thoughts exactly. When I saw his name on the caller ID, I assumed that it was to tell me not to do it.
Where do you stand on your objections now? I think accepting her offer is probably the best move for you, but your reservations aren't unfounded. In the interests of not screwing up a potentially good thing, I think your reservations should be addressed, assuming they haven't been already.
I have not really adressed all of them. Several are unavoidable and inherent in the moving-in-with-ex-boyfriend process. Here are my main ones:
Awkwardness: Now, Chris is going to be at school starting in the fall, so I won't see him much at all, depending upon how long I stay for. The awkward situation could come in several forms:
-He asks me out again, and I say no: Now I'm living with the guy who broke my heart, and now I have rejected him.
-He asks me out again, and I say yes: Now we have a boyfriend situation again, except now we're living together. If things don't work out,the living situation could get very ugly indeed.
(I do not plan on accosting him with such a proposal, so that one did not make the list.)
Beyond the awkwardness of the situation:
-Chris becomes like a brother. That, I could not deal with.
-His mom tries to be a mother to me. Also intolerable. Once burned, and all that.
-Lifestyle adjustment. Over the last year and a half, I've gotten used to my crazy life. I work 6-7 days a week, stay up all night, smoke like a chimney, and occasionally drink like a fish. It would take a lot to get me back into the healthy, family dynamic.
Now, the last few I could deal with, if I laid down a few conditions. But the awkwardness is the big thing, and that is completely unavoidable.
I have a question for ya guys. How do you like...break it to a guy (if you're a guy too) that ya want to go out with them? Wouldn't you get embarrased that they'll laugh and tell everyone you're gay and you'll have no friends? I'm just askin. I just see all these guys with boyfriends and I wonder how they get em. How do you know that the person is even gay before you ask them out?
@tneill: It's generally a good idea to be positive that your crush is gay before announcing your intentions. Bad things can happen if it turns out he's not. Now, there is a chance that he'll tell everyone that you're gay (if you're still in the closet), but most people are rather civil, depending upon the age group.
The age group is 13 to 14 in middle school. 7th to 8th grade. Read back a few pages to my post where I had 4 crushes of boys who liked me. tell me who you think likes me from the few details stated and if you think they're gay or not. They're all my buds but I think they like me more than that.
Well, the solution is easy. Tell them you're not gay. Find a chance to fit that into the conversation without it being too awkward?
@T2: Lay out. I'm sorry that you don't like Chomsky; however, I must say that I don't like your politics, either. We'll keep those differences to the debate forum hopefully and be cordial to one another here.
I am glad that you will be staying with Chris' family, and I hope that your experience is enjoyable. I am still sorry about you and Chris. It would drive me insane if my boyfriend turned out to be a Christian opposed to his orientation.
Help has come in the form of a bit of basic algebra. I feel that it'll shed some light on your problem here.
Basically:
S + T = W
...S in this case stands for 'spam' and the T stands for 'light trolling'. And the W? That stands for 'Warning'. I love math. -- {mikeyG}
Okay. That's cool. You don't have to commit to that label, "bisexual." You can try having a relationship with one (or more, I'm all for that) of them. in a "bi-curious" stage. And if you like it (and I use "it" losely), cool. If you don't, then that's also cool.
Happy hunting.
PS: If they ever talk about gay rights, or gay people generally, then you can act supportive and then they might open up. Then you can float the idea that you're bi-curious. Just a thought.
Help has come in the form of a bit of basic algebra. I feel that it'll shed some light on your problem here.
Basically:
S + T = W
...S in this case stands for 'spam' and the T stands for 'light trolling'. And the W? That stands for 'Warning'. I love math. -- {mikeyG}
Aww man, don't talk about mothers. Mine's a total *****. No, not the angsty "Just let me live my life" kinda of *****, a genuine throwing mugs at me and kicking me out of the house kind of *****. *sigh*
Anyways, Tneil, PLay it safe for the time being. I was in teh same position as you a little while ago, and I say just let things happen. Roll with it and things will sort themselves out. There's no need to rush sexuality
Speaking of, I'm having an amazing time flirting with this one guy, but at the same time, I'm getting calls from a bunch of girls that want to hang out with me. Damn... so torn. Although, I could go for anyone right now. I'm at one of those times when I think to myself, "Damn, I really want someone..."
i think I'm kind of bisexual. How would i tell them i like them or whatever?
Try the direct approach. Or ride it out until you're more clear on what you want.
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Speaking of, I'm having an amazing time flirting with this one guy, but at the same time, I'm getting calls from a bunch of girls that want to hang out with me. Damn... so torn.
Preaching to the choir. No sooner do I give up on my pseudo-non-boyfriend than I start up an ill-advised fling of desperation with a close friend. Female, fyi. Oh sweet Complication, where would I be without you?
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But the awkwardness is the big thing, and that is completely unavoidable.
It may be overcome, even if it's unavoidable. Situations are only as awkward as we let them be.
I'm right there with ya PurpleD. Well, like 3 of these guys like flirting with me. I do too cause i'm interested. Well, I'm really interested in one specific one and I like to flirt with him. He invites me to his house and we play videogames and such. At the same time though, 3 girls call my house. I'm interested in them too. I don't know what to do. Being Bi is harder than it would seem. You like guys and girls, but you realize you could only have one or the other. By the way, I haven't broken it to my parents that i'm bisexual. What would they say if I did?!
I just find myself so attracted to this one guy. I feel as though he's gay, seems a bit he is, but at the same time i just think I'm going crazy cause i hope he is. I pray he is.
@gerg: Oh. I don't want to reveal it just yet. I'm not ready for a backlash. I have a feeling everyone i know won't want to hang around me. I have MANY MANY friends. I'm pretty popular at school but not like the most popular. I'm just slowly tryingto reveal to the guy that i like him. Not a sudden "I'm bi and I like you". Just slowing giving it out bit by bit to him. He doesn't seem bothered. He likes to hang around and talk with me. I could give you many more details on him if you wish. Just tell me.
@gerg: Oh. I don't want to reveal it just yet. I'm not ready for a backlash. I have a feeling everyone i know won't want to hang around me. I have MANY MANY friends. I'm pretty popular at school but not like the most popular. I'm just slowly tryingto reveal to the guy that i like him. Not a sudden "I'm bi and I like you". Just slowing giving it out bit by bit to him. He doesn't seem bothered. He likes to hang around and talk with me. I could give you many more details on him if you wish. Just tell me.
Wait, weren't you straight like, two pages ago? It's like you have Progeria for sexuality.
Just cool down, big guy. Put the car in neutral for awhile, see where you roll.
Oh, and for the record, if everyone you know won't want to hang out with you because you're gay/bi/whatever, they weren't such great friends to start with and you're better off without dog**** like them holding you back.
I said I was NOT GAY. I didn't say I wasn't bi. But I still have a more closer attraction to the ladies. Many girls at school like me and they tend to hang around me which may be why my appeal to guys is moving away.
I respect gays,lesbians,transexuals,and so on.Their pretty cool to hang out with.Except when some try to touch you in inappropriate place like some of my guy friends.
I'm going to be a spporter of this clan cause i respect people that aren't straight.You guys rock
Point being, at no point until today did you leave the impression that you were 'one of us'. Not that it's any big deal, woohoo for bisexuality, it just struck me as kind of a sharp turn from what I've seen of you.
But I still have a more closer attraction to the ladies. Many girls at school like me and they tend to hang around me which may be why my appeal to guys is moving away.
There is something morbidly appealing about arguing in favor of "Don't ask, don't tell." Not sure why it's so fun.
Seeing how the other half lives, are we?
Personally, I don't like "DA, DT", but I think it's one we should just suck up and get over. Gays who want to enlist know what they're getting into and are free to make their choice. In an ideal world, they could be out and be a soldier too, but that's a pipe dream. The army's more concerned with keeping the good 'ole boys comfortable than making the queers happy. The policy has a pleasant side effect of keeping gays safe from harassment, but we all know that's not the real reason for the policy.
Personally, I don't like "DA, DT", but I think it's one we should just suck up and get over. Gays who want to enlist know what they're getting into and are free to make their choice. In an ideal world, they could be out and be a soldier too, but that's a pipe dream. The army's more concerned with keeping the good 'ole boys comfortable than making the queers happy. The policy has a pleasant side effect of keeping gays safe from harassment, but we all know that's not the real reason for the policy.
Well, I'm rather indifferent to the whole policy, because (as you said) to enlist in the military is a choice, and there are a litany of conditions that they consent to meet, including this one.
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That's a ... um ... interesting arrangement. How'd that come about?
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So hello and bye and best wishes to all the guys and gals and inbetweens.
EDIT: Also, welcome Xeonio!
Welcome. Though there's no need to post and dash. Stick around, tell us more about yourself.
Wow. That's really cool of her. You're lucky. Most parents nowadays don't even give two ****s about their own kids, let alone kids that aren't really their responsibility. She sounds like one of those decent people I hear about every so often. What was Chris' reaction?
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She is probably one of the most amazing women I've ever met; leaps and bounds, needless to say, above Alex's mother.
Well, it was funny. I hadn't spoken to him in quite some time when he called me a few nights ago. We chatted about random crap for a bit, I made a few snarky remarks about Church and all that, and then he just says, "I really think you should consider Mom's offer, you know." I stated my objections---the awkwardness of living with my ex, the awkwardness of him becoming a brother-figure and his mom becoming a mother, the drastic change in my lifestyle, etc----to which he responded, "**** it, just do it, you know it's the right thing to do." He was oddly supportive of the idea, in short.
I think that goes without saying.
Wow, how completely unexpected of him. Though I'm glad he's supportive. He could have easily not been.
Where do you stand on your objections now? I think accepting her offer is probably the best move for you, but your reservations aren't unfounded. In the interests of not screwing up a potentially good thing, I think your reservations should be addressed, assuming they haven't been already.
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My thoughts exactly. When I saw his name on the caller ID, I assumed that it was to tell me not to do it.
I have not really adressed all of them. Several are unavoidable and inherent in the moving-in-with-ex-boyfriend process. Here are my main ones:
Awkwardness: Now, Chris is going to be at school starting in the fall, so I won't see him much at all, depending upon how long I stay for. The awkward situation could come in several forms:
-He asks me out again, and I say no: Now I'm living with the guy who broke my heart, and now I have rejected him.
-He asks me out again, and I say yes: Now we have a boyfriend situation again, except now we're living together. If things don't work out,the living situation could get very ugly indeed.
(I do not plan on accosting him with such a proposal, so that one did not make the list.)
Beyond the awkwardness of the situation:
-Chris becomes like a brother. That, I could not deal with.
-His mom tries to be a mother to me. Also intolerable. Once burned, and all that.
-Lifestyle adjustment. Over the last year and a half, I've gotten used to my crazy life. I work 6-7 days a week, stay up all night, smoke like a chimney, and occasionally drink like a fish. It would take a lot to get me back into the healthy, family dynamic.
Now, the last few I could deal with, if I laid down a few conditions. But the awkwardness is the big thing, and that is completely unavoidable.
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@T2: Lay out. I'm sorry that you don't like Chomsky; however, I must say that I don't like your politics, either. We'll keep those differences to the debate forum hopefully and be cordial to one another here.
I am glad that you will be staying with Chris' family, and I hope that your experience is enjoyable. I am still sorry about you and Chris. It would drive me insane if my boyfriend turned out to be a Christian opposed to his orientation.
Help has come in the form of a bit of basic algebra. I feel that it'll shed some light on your problem here.
Basically:
S + T = W
...S in this case stands for 'spam' and the T stands for 'light trolling'. And the W? That stands for 'Warning'. I love math. -- {mikeyG}
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Happy hunting.
PS: If they ever talk about gay rights, or gay people generally, then you can act supportive and then they might open up. Then you can float the idea that you're bi-curious. Just a thought.
Help has come in the form of a bit of basic algebra. I feel that it'll shed some light on your problem here.
Basically:
S + T = W
...S in this case stands for 'spam' and the T stands for 'light trolling'. And the W? That stands for 'Warning'. I love math. -- {mikeyG}
Anyways, Tneil, PLay it safe for the time being. I was in teh same position as you a little while ago, and I say just let things happen. Roll with it and things will sort themselves out. There's no need to rush sexuality
Speaking of, I'm having an amazing time flirting with this one guy, but at the same time, I'm getting calls from a bunch of girls that want to hang out with me. Damn... so torn. Although, I could go for anyone right now. I'm at one of those times when I think to myself, "Damn, I really want someone..."
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Try the direct approach. Or ride it out until you're more clear on what you want.
Preaching to the choir. No sooner do I give up on my pseudo-non-boyfriend than I start up an ill-advised fling of desperation with a close friend. Female, fyi. Oh sweet Complication, where would I be without you?
It may be overcome, even if it's unavoidable. Situations are only as awkward as we let them be.
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I just find myself so attracted to this one guy. I feel as though he's gay, seems a bit he is, but at the same time i just think I'm going crazy cause i hope he is. I pray he is.
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Wait, weren't you straight like, two pages ago? It's like you have Progeria for sexuality.
Just cool down, big guy. Put the car in neutral for awhile, see where you roll.
Oh, and for the record, if everyone you know won't want to hang out with you because you're gay/bi/whatever, they weren't such great friends to start with and you're better off without dog**** like them holding you back.
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Uh-huh. Yeah, you really got me there.
Point being, at no point until today did you leave the impression that you were 'one of us'. Not that it's any big deal, woohoo for bisexuality, it just struck me as kind of a sharp turn from what I've seen of you.
Huh?
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Seeing how the other half lives, are we?
Personally, I don't like "DA, DT", but I think it's one we should just suck up and get over. Gays who want to enlist know what they're getting into and are free to make their choice. In an ideal world, they could be out and be a soldier too, but that's a pipe dream. The army's more concerned with keeping the good 'ole boys comfortable than making the queers happy. The policy has a pleasant side effect of keeping gays safe from harassment, but we all know that's not the real reason for the policy.
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Well, I'm rather indifferent to the whole policy, because (as you said) to enlist in the military is a choice, and there are a litany of conditions that they consent to meet, including this one.