Welcome to The Izzet clan! This is a clan for people who like The Izzet (the blue/red guild in Guildpact), or who are just fans of red/blue. If you wish to join The Izzet, please read the Application Rules below.
MEMBERS: Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of [The Izzet] spediesteban422 - Acolyte of Lavamancy wamyc - Apprentice of Lavamancy dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of [The Izzet] Darkon~ - Acolyte of Frontier Knowledge kakuwinki - Apprentice of Frontier Knowledge
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy Shino Tenshi - Acolyte of Flame Alchemy Avatar of Light - Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom Alabaska J - Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom St3v3n - Apprentice of Recycled Wisdom Tiki_man- Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation Iammars - Acolyte of Spell Manitpulation *** hater - Apprentice of Spell Manitpulation Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition Jaharu- Acolyte of Prohibition RebelMe - Apprentice of Prohibition Wuffles_II - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies, Co-leader of [The Izzet] UV_Chemist - Acolyte of the Skies Aethershunt89- Apprentice of the Skies Atrius - Eigth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives Izzet_Dragonmage - Acolyte of Experimental Explosives Eater of Hampster - Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
ALLIES AND FRIENDS:
We are proud to announce our Triple Alliance with the House Dimir and the Cult of Rakdos. Together, we will rule Ravnica. Also, as of March 1st, 2006, we are also allied with TFE and the [Robot Jesus] clan!
Other MasterBeeble (Founder) godless_angel diggy Elvish Champion Nocturn zoombinimatt Canabiest Infinite Draw Oasis! purple pirate Ahriman Singer of White Line loran16
BweeBwee
Tool
Wessel
Metathran Elite
Eclipsed
Members Who Left MasterBeeble (Founder) Aisling_Lepruchaun magic_pie Spectyr purple pirate Oasis! (Former Leader)
BweeBwee
Doob TheBlueBeetle Guildmaster Van
STUFF: Application Rules
To join The Izzet, please post the following in this thread:
Username: ____ Reason you wish to join: ____ High Mage you wish to Apprentice under: ____ Anything else about you: ____
Be sure to keep it in this format. Do not PM anyone or post anywhere other than this thread or your application will be ignored. Also read the High Mage/Apprentice Rules below.
High Mage/Acolyte/Apprentice Rules Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has no Apprentice. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Acolyte of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Erratic Portal The Erratic Portal is the place where all of our inactive users go. If they return, they will be put back on the members list. Current Lab Residents: RoyalBearAssasin Squrrelwraith White Dragon BornInChaos Elvish Crack Piper Niv-Mizzet the Firemind Welsh Dude
Draak
Card Ideas for Clan Contest #2
Storm of the Mind
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play ~This~, return permanents you control to your hand.
~This~ deals damage to each creature and each player
Each player sacrifices lands that they control.
Each player draws cards
Izzet Tidehunter
:1mana::symu::symr:
Creature - Human Wizard
0/1
Izzet Tidehunter cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
Whenever a player plays an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on Izzet Tidehunter.
:symr:, remove a charge counter from Izzet Tidehunter: Izzet tidehunter deals 2 damage to target creature or player. Target opponent may draw a card.
Extirpate :5mana::symu::symu::symr::symr:
Sorcery
Return any number of permanents you control to their owner's hand.
Destroy all creatures, artifacts, and lands. They can't be regenerated.
Izzet Trainee :2mana::symr::symu:
Creature-Wizard
Whenever a player plays an instant or sorcery spell, you may put a charge counter on Izzet Trainee.
:symu:: Counter target spell with converted mana cost X, where X is the number of charge counters on Izzet Trainee.
:symr:: Copy target instant or sorcery spell with converted mana cost X, where X is the number of charge counters on Izzet Trainee.
2/2 "I'm getting better every day!"
Spellgobbler Golem
Creature - Golem
When Spellgobbler Golem is put into a graveyard from play it deals damage equal to its power to each creature and player.
:2mana::symu::symr:: Remove an Instant or Sorcery from your hand and put X +1/+1 counters of Spellgobbler Golem where X is the removed card's converted casting cost.
1/1
[cardname] :symu::symr:
Creature - Human Wizard Berserker
When [cardname] comes into play name a spell type.
Whenever a player plays a spell of the chosen type [cardname] deals 2 damage to him or her.
2/2
[cardname] :1mana::symu::symr::symur:
Enchantment
Whenever you play an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on this card.
:1mana::symu::symr:; Remove X charge counters: Deal X damage to target creature or player. Draw a card.
:symu::symu::symr::symr:; Remove 2 charge counters: Search your library for a red or blue instant or sorcery, reveal that card, and put it in your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
[cardname] :1mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever a spell is cast put a [name] counter on [cardname]
:xmana::symu: : Draw X cards, where X is the number of [name] counters on [cardname]. [cardname] deals X damage to you. Damage deal this way cannot be prevented.
:xmana::symr: : Deal X damage to target creature or player, where X is the number of [name] counters on [cardname]. Remove the X top cards of your library from the name.
[cardname] :2mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever you play an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on [cardname].
:1mana::symu::symr:, remove X charge counters: [cardname] deals X damage to target creature or player.
Hydropyric Boiler :3mana::symu::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever a player plays an Instant or Sorcery spell, you may pay :1mana:. If you do, copy it and choose new targets for the copy.
Multicast :symr::symr::symu::symu:
Instant
Copy any number of target Instant or Sorcery Spells. Until end of turn, whenever a player plays an Instant or Sorcery spell, you may copy it. You may choose new targets for those copies.
Propulsion Aggregate :2mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
:1mana:, remove an instant or sorcery card in your hand from the game: play target instant or sorcery in your graveyard without paying its mana cost.
Yea, if meloku wasn't rotating in a little while, the price would go up even more. Not that it will lose all of it's value just because it won't be in standard, and that's not saying that it won't go up at all, of course.
So, does anyone have massive plans for the actual release of Dissension? Any cash cows out there willing to take me on? My intended expense will be to the tune of:
2 Booster Boxes
The Fatpack
One of each Precon
15 more Boosters.
The neat thing is, if I manage to snag it all on a Teusday (yeah, right, like that'll happen) I'll be getting ten percent off, and have one hell of a casua; night selection.
Oh, and the way I'm tacking on overtime at my new job, it looks like my first paycheck (due on Thursday) will be around 1000 dollars pre-tax. I'm going to be a very happy boy.
Although I'm torn between using the money for a prerelease trip or the trip to Michigan that will require:
A Prom outfit
Church clothes
Ferry fair
Food
Gifts
Also, this girl's mother might be forcing me to read the first Harry Potter book, since they are both nerds with it. She's joking (hopefully) that there will be a written test the moment I arrive.
For my plans concerning the new set I would have enjoyed splurging and buying a few boxes, but thanks to debts, obligations, and a tiny bankbook the only thing I'll buy when it's released is a fatpack most likely.
Of course, I have a knack for getting my hand on cards immediately anyway, so I'm not worried.
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:symur::symur::symur::symur: [The Izzet] :symur::symur::symur::symur:
Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
White Hydra - Returning April 23rd
Seriously...I'm about 20 cards short of having a complete replicate of the Ravnica block. I'm short a few cards from each set. They will, however, take the backstage once Dissension hits the streets.
Turbo-Burn...would be my idea if you were to run those colors. It seems the field will be littered with creatures to blow up nice. Mana accel to a simic bomb monster or sit back and lay waste to them with burn.
[card=Dismal Failure]"Two magi could trade spells all day and never crown a victor.
The real battle is not one of power but of will.
If your confidence breaks, so too shall you." —Venser[/card]
I was thinking what can I add from Izzet to my future UGR deck. Any ideas?
The problem is that the Simic and the Izzet, while both being deeply involved in the sciences, are very different in playstyle. Izzet creature cards have synergy with instants and sorceries, while it seems Simic creatures have synergy with counters and auras. More than that Izzet doesn't need to use creatures to kill opponents either, while I can't think of anything Simic could come up with that could do the same.
*pulls out his pocket watch and swings it through the air in a pendulum movement*
You will play UR; the Firemind commands yooooooooooou!
In all seriousness Azorius would be a better partner for Simic decks than Izzet would be, simply thanks to Æthermage's Touch. Likewise; Izzet also has that little combo it could use with Celestial Hussar and Kiki-Jiki.
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:symur::symur::symur::symur: [The Izzet] :symur::symur::symur::symur:
Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
White Hydra - Returning April 23rd
I'm kakuwinki
i'd like to join the izzet club because blue and red have always been my favourite colours to play in magic and i love counter/burn
I would like to be Darkon's aprentice
that's it
I am legitmately trying to save up for a case of Dissension. Even though I love the Izzet, it's looking like not only the most powerful block, but the most fun block. Also, you have to admit, the UW shockland is just breathtaking. As for :symu::symr::symg:, I don't think that those colours go too well together. Thusfar, it really looks like the combination to beat is :symu::symr::symw:.
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I feel like a high roller. I already have a ****load of things to buy. And with my overtime today, I tacke don 50 bucks in three hours. Here's hoping I pull a foil Omniban, and the duals aren't too heavily pulled one way (Eight shrines and five Gardens is troublesome when the others are far from four-ofs.)
Sigh, I guess we can be resigned to the fact that we probably will not have any more than 60 or so cards up by the time prerelease rolls around...
I like pie.
we may not have the whole set for long, but due to those hardworking australasians, we should have the whole set for at least 18 hours before the prerelease. So, thanks an consolations about that whole international date line thing?
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I was thinking what can I add from Izzet to my future UGR deck. Any ideas?
I personally think this combo works. The possibilites are many, but they don't follow guild lines. I like Meloku + Asuza, lost but seeking backed up with burn and counter.
go to wizards.com tournament center: the link that says locate a tournament near me. Then find the store you're going to the tournament for. They should have the info on how much the sealed and drafts are going to cost on thier website. It should be arond 30$, but each place varies.
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we may not have the whole set for long, but due to those hardworking australasians, we should have the whole set for at least 18 hours before the prerelease.
QFT. Us Australasians always get owned hard. Especially us New Zealanders.
I'm possibly going to the prerelease. I'm hopefully going to be making a :symr::symw::symb: aggro or aggro/control (depending on meta). Here's hoping the sorcery/instant rocks hard.
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Eternal Masters 2015 Legacy Champion. Has an unnatural love towards perfectly reasonable respect for Lightning Bolt.
Shew....been busy makin' money for dissention.....Right now, I'm looking at about 80. Anybody know how much a booster box is going for in the U.S.?
Again, prices vary. It really depends on where you're buying from. Online places can get you some real bargains, but I wouldn't pay anything more than 100 pre taxes, or you're really getting taken. The best thing to do is to pre-order somewhere online and get involved with some other people one a case or more to save extra money.
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:symr::symr: Elemental Synthesis :symu::symu:
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Welcome to The Izzet clan! This is a clan for people who like The Izzet (the blue/red guild in Guildpact), or who are just fans of red/blue. If you wish to join The Izzet, please read the Application Rules below.
MEMBERS:
Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of [The Izzet]
spediesteban422 - Acolyte of Lavamancy
wamyc - Apprentice of Lavamancy
dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of [The Izzet]
Darkon~ - Acolyte of Frontier Knowledge
kakuwinki - Apprentice of Frontier Knowledge
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy
Shino Tenshi - Acolyte of Flame Alchemy
Avatar of Light - Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom
Alabaska J - Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom
St3v3n - Apprentice of Recycled Wisdom
Tiki_man - Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation
Iammars - Acolyte of Spell Manitpulation
*** hater - Apprentice of Spell Manitpulation
Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition
Jaharu- Acolyte of Prohibition
RebelMe - Apprentice of Prohibition
Wuffles_II - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies, Co-leader of [The Izzet]
UV_Chemist - Acolyte of the Skies
Aethershunt89 - Apprentice of the Skies
Atrius - Eigth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives
Izzet_Dragonmage - Acolyte of Experimental Explosives
Eater of Hampster - Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
ALLIES AND FRIENDS:
We are proud to announce our Triple Alliance with the House Dimir and the Cult of Rakdos. Together, we will rule Ravnica.
Also, as of March 1st, 2006, we are also allied with TFE and the [Robot Jesus] clan!
Allies
Dimir
PurpleD
Surging Chaos
Rorix Blade
KoolKoal
Azerael
Goatchunx
Rayne
Xander
Rakdos
Exalted Urza
Doctor Teeth
Sliver Underlord
Schulzy
Xathrax
Tyler Durden
xzibit_a
F1r3ball
BaKeD87Sk8
Genghis Khan
The raven
Ihsan_The Demon
Deliverance
Friends
Zoo
Forgotten Hope
Maxrpg
Master of Darkness
void nothing
Amemit
yukora
magic_pie
Wrath_of_DoG
shesXmyXsuicide
Orzhov
wackyo86
arch_wooh
dragonhunter
sam111111
arch_wooohh
Golgari
Glamdring_the_Foehammer
Other
MasterBeeble (Founder)
godless_angel
diggy
Elvish Champion
Nocturn
zoombinimatt
Canabiest
Infinite Draw
Oasis!
purple pirate
Ahriman
Singer of White Line
loran16
BweeBwee
Tool
Wessel
Metathran Elite
Eclipsed
Members Who Left
MasterBeeble (Founder)
Aisling_Lepruchaun
magic_pie
Spectyr
purple pirate
Oasis! (Former Leader)
BweeBwee
Doob
TheBlueBeetle
Guildmaster Van
STUFF:
Application Rules
To join The Izzet, please post the following in this thread:
Username: ____
Reason you wish to join: ____
High Mage you wish to Apprentice under: ____
Anything else about you: ____
Be sure to keep it in this format. Do not PM anyone or post anywhere other than this thread or your application will be ignored. Also read the High Mage/Apprentice Rules below.
High Mage/Acolyte/Apprentice Rules
Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has no Apprentice. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Acolyte of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Old Threads
MasterBeeble and Niv-Mizzet calling out all The Izzet
[The Izzet] Do you really want to know what Experiment #267 is?
[The Izzet] The world is our guinea pig. Let's experiment.
[The Izzet] Even if our experiments go wrong, we'll still blow you up.
The [Izzet] - We'll blow things up, whether we want to or not!
[The Izzet] - Trust us, the burning sensation means it's working.
A.D.D. + Explosives = [The Izzet]
Erratic Portal
The Erratic Portal is the place where all of our inactive users go. If they return, they will be put back on the members list.
Current Lab Residents:
RoyalBearAssasin
Squrrelwraith
White Dragon
BornInChaos
Elvish Crack Piper
Niv-Mizzet the Firemind
Welsh Dude
Draak
Card Ideas for Clan Contest #2
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play ~This~, return permanents you control to your hand.
~This~ deals damage to each creature and each player
Each player sacrifices lands that they control.
Each player draws cards
Izzet Tidehunter
:1mana::symu::symr:
Creature - Human Wizard
0/1
Izzet Tidehunter cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
Whenever a player plays an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on Izzet Tidehunter.
:symr:, remove a charge counter from Izzet Tidehunter: Izzet tidehunter deals 2 damage to target creature or player. Target opponent may draw a card.
Sorcery
Return any number of permanents you control to their owner's hand.
Destroy all creatures, artifacts, and lands. They can't be regenerated.
Izzet Trainee :2mana::symr::symu:
Creature-Wizard
Whenever a player plays an instant or sorcery spell, you may put a charge counter on Izzet Trainee.
:symu:: Counter target spell with converted mana cost X, where X is the number of charge counters on Izzet Trainee.
:symr:: Copy target instant or sorcery spell with converted mana cost X, where X is the number of charge counters on Izzet Trainee.
2/2
"I'm getting better every day!"
Spellgobbler Golem
Creature - Golem
When Spellgobbler Golem is put into a graveyard from play it deals damage equal to its power to each creature and player.
:2mana::symu::symr:: Remove an Instant or Sorcery from your hand and put X +1/+1 counters of Spellgobbler Golem where X is the removed card's converted casting cost.
1/1
[cardname] :symu::symr:
Creature - Human Wizard Berserker
When [cardname] comes into play name a spell type.
Whenever a player plays a spell of the chosen type [cardname] deals 2 damage to him or her.
2/2
[cardname] :1mana::symu::symr::symur:
Enchantment
Whenever you play an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on this card.
:1mana::symu::symr:; Remove X charge counters: Deal X damage to target creature or player. Draw a card.
:symu::symu::symr::symr:; Remove 2 charge counters: Search your library for a red or blue instant or sorcery, reveal that card, and put it in your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
[cardname] :1mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever a spell is cast put a [name] counter on [cardname]
:xmana::symu: : Draw X cards, where X is the number of [name] counters on [cardname]. [cardname] deals X damage to you. Damage deal this way cannot be prevented.
:xmana::symr: : Deal X damage to target creature or player, where X is the number of [name] counters on [cardname]. Remove the X top cards of your library from the name.
[cardname] :2mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever you play an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on [cardname].
:1mana::symu::symr:, remove X charge counters: [cardname] deals X damage to target creature or player.
Hydropyric Boiler :3mana::symu::symu::symr:
Enchantment
Whenever a player plays an Instant or Sorcery spell, you may pay :1mana:. If you do, copy it and choose new targets for the copy.
Multicast :symr::symr::symu::symu:
Instant
Copy any number of target Instant or Sorcery Spells. Until end of turn, whenever a player plays an Instant or Sorcery spell, you may copy it. You may choose new targets for those copies.
Propulsion Aggregate :2mana::symu::symr:
Enchantment
:1mana:, remove an instant or sorcery card in your hand from the game: play target instant or sorcery in your graveyard without paying its mana cost.
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Straight Member of the Gaymers
Anyone else going to FNM tonight? I'm going to try out my W/B control, cause I don't think that my R/U machinegun is ready yet.
MWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA PRERELEASE OF DOOM!
Kno what would b evil? That azorious kitten with meloku. hehehe. that would b awesome. evil kitty to the rescue!
So, does anyone have massive plans for the actual release of Dissension? Any cash cows out there willing to take me on? My intended expense will be to the tune of:
2 Booster Boxes
The Fatpack
One of each Precon
15 more Boosters.
The neat thing is, if I manage to snag it all on a Teusday (yeah, right, like that'll happen) I'll be getting ten percent off, and have one hell of a casua; night selection.
Oh, and the way I'm tacking on overtime at my new job, it looks like my first paycheck (due on Thursday) will be around 1000 dollars pre-tax. I'm going to be a very happy boy.
Although I'm torn between using the money for a prerelease trip or the trip to Michigan that will require:
A Prom outfit
Church clothes
Ferry fair
Food
Gifts
Also, this girl's mother might be forcing me to read the first Harry Potter book, since they are both nerds with it. She's joking (hopefully) that there will be a written test the moment I arrive.
Of course, I have a knack for getting my hand on cards immediately anyway, so I'm not worried.
Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
White Hydra - Returning April 23rd
My DA page
Seriously...I'm about 20 cards short of having a complete replicate of the Ravnica block. I'm short a few cards from each set. They will, however, take the backstage once Dissension hits the streets.
Sigh, I guess we can be resigned to the fact that we probably will not have any more than 60 or so cards up by the time prerelease rolls around...
I like pie.
I was thinking what can I add from Izzet to my future UGR deck. Any ideas?
:symr::symu: Reality Bites
:symr::symu: Delver Cyclops
:symr::symu: Niv Control EDH
:symg::symw: Sigarda EDH
The real battle is not one of power but of will.
If your confidence breaks, so too shall you."
—Venser[/card]
Singer of White Line - what I can think of now is Electrolyze. Depending on type of deck, Schizmotivate could be useful.
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The problem is that the Simic and the Izzet, while both being deeply involved in the sciences, are very different in playstyle. Izzet creature cards have synergy with instants and sorceries, while it seems Simic creatures have synergy with counters and auras. More than that Izzet doesn't need to use creatures to kill opponents either, while I can't think of anything Simic could come up with that could do the same.
*pulls out his pocket watch and swings it through the air in a pendulum movement*
You will play UR; the Firemind commands yooooooooooou!
In all seriousness Azorius would be a better partner for Simic decks than Izzet would be, simply thanks to Æthermage's Touch. Likewise; Izzet also has that little combo it could use with Celestial Hussar and Kiki-Jiki.
Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
White Hydra - Returning April 23rd
My DA page
i'd like to join the izzet club because blue and red have always been my favourite colours to play in magic and i love counter/burn
I would like to be Darkon's aprentice
that's it
I am legitmately trying to save up for a case of Dissension. Even though I love the Izzet, it's looking like not only the most powerful block, but the most fun block. Also, you have to admit, the UW shockland is just breathtaking. As for :symu::symr::symg:, I don't think that those colours go too well together. Thusfar, it really looks like the combination to beat is :symu::symr::symw:.
Thanks to Charlie Donaldson for Banner
Straight Member of the Gaymers
we may not have the whole set for long, but due to those hardworking australasians, we should have the whole set for at least 18 hours before the prerelease. So, thanks an consolations about that whole international date line thing?
I personally think this combo works. The possibilites are many, but they don't follow guild lines. I like Meloku + Asuza, lost but seeking backed up with burn and counter.
Sorry, but I have to know soon...
You can give that one to Guildmaster Van, one of our newest members. The force is strong in that one...
Thanks to Charlie Donaldson for Banner
Straight Member of the Gaymers
go to wizards.com tournament center: the link that says locate a tournament near me. Then find the store you're going to the tournament for. They should have the info on how much the sealed and drafts are going to cost on thier website. It should be arond 30$, but each place varies.
@ kakuwinki: Welcome to the Izzet, man!
QFT. Us Australasians always get owned hard. Especially us New Zealanders.
I'm possibly going to the prerelease. I'm hopefully going to be making a :symr::symw::symb: aggro or aggro/control (depending on meta). Here's hoping the sorcery/instant rocks hard.
an unnatural love towardsperfectly reasonable respect for Lightning Bolt.The Kiwi third of The Salt Mine Podcast: An Australian Legacy Podcast
Again, prices vary. It really depends on where you're buying from. Online places can get you some real bargains, but I wouldn't pay anything more than 100 pre taxes, or you're really getting taken. The best thing to do is to pre-order somewhere online and get involved with some other people one a case or more to save extra money.