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if you allow friends to make banners, i'd love to make one. but you'd have to add me as a friend first

We are more than open to accept outside talent Illuvatar :). While the title of lawmage can't be given to other clan members, I'm sure we can come up with an honorable substitute for our friends.
I have added you to our friends list when you first requested it.

spiral: Orzhov Guildmage isn't really that useful. I'd recommend Leonin skyhunter for a better two-drop.

Also, Faith's Fetters rules. Go get it.

And if you're playing Shadow Lance, at least make it a 3-of. Yes, it rocks.

Orzhov guildmage only works if you are going to play lockdown and slowly bleed them. Leonin Skyhunter, Hand of Cruelty or Hand of Honor are better two drops. Maybe Eight-and-a-Half-Tails?

Is it ok if someone else makes our banner? I don't photoshop or anything.

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i have to report you on behalf of A_W that he must leave

Thank you for the notification Illuvatar.

A_W will be missed until he comes back, but at least this appears to be temporary. Now, let's make him proud by getting something done around here while he's gone.

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i have to report you on behalf of A_W that he must leave

Thank you for the report.

so we are doing something for a_w upon his return.... hmmmm what could we do??

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so we are doing something for a_w upon his return.... hmmmm what could we do??

Since we don't know the nature of his leave, a cordial 'welcome back' would be the most appropriate.

Grr... can't view imageshack.

To reply to the better two drop creature remarks from a few other people, you seem to be forgetting about the colors, we run two colors giving us a fifty percent chance of drawing into the color we need if we were only running lands and about a thirty-three and one-third chance of drawing into a land in general in a sixty card deck, splitting that into about an eleven and one-sixth chance of drawing into the color that we need, now dual lands and pain lands help the curve by six and two-thirds percent, and bounce lands help alot as well, however, with no land grabs in black/white with the exception of weathered wayfinder and that is only situational, the colors that you want, especially double color such as Hand of Honor, Hand of Cruelty, etc., you have to wait until you get the colors to drop them and it isn't nescessarily a turn two drop. The good thing about the Orzhov Guildmage is that it can be split into either double color or one of each color which fixes the curve problem. -Shrug- Just giving everyone the low down on things statistically, I'm sure someone is going to disagree with me somewhere and some might not even listen to me, all I'm giving are statistics and I hope they helped those who payed attention to them.

@Barker: You present an interesting point, but most decks should be running at least 4 duals, 2-3 pains, and possibly bounce as well as running at the very least 22 land (so you have more than 33.3% of you deck as land, and bounce lands basically count as 2 once they hit the board). However, I agree that it's probably a bad idea to be running a lot of BB or WW cards, as you'll probably get the land most of the time, but sometimes, your out of luck. With that said, I still think the guildmage is possibly the worst of the semi-playable black, white, or black/white 2cc creatures. I would take black hand, white hand, leonin skyhunter, bob, and possibly some other things (including mourning thrull) over it any day.

With that said, more important business:
Seeing as there has been very little real activity on this thread in the past couple days, I suggest we start working on things. Here's a list I've come up with:

1: Get a fourth ghost-council member (or at least get a list of possible people)
2: Finalize membership restrictions
3: Begin work on the first clan contest (from what I can tell, it is not officially running yet, but it will be to create an anthem and, I think, a flag for the clan. At this rate, it will probably end in mid March, but the clan council thread has been extremely dead lately)

These are ordered in the order I believe they should be completed, but I am, as always, open to suggestions.

Lastly, on yet another note, I will be gone for about a week starting on Saturday the 18th (this saturday), and will be gone for about a week. I appologize for this absence, but there is really nothing I can do about it. I will try to be active for the next few days, and I hope something can get done while I am gone, or at least as soon as I get back.

Just thinking outloud:
1. We go ahead and make Krashbot101's banner our Official Banner.
2. We go ahead and make Krashbot101 the 4th Council member because he is on here regularly, know what he is talking about when it comes to B/W, and no one else has said anything about being the 4th member.
3. As for membership restrictions, you must post at least Once a week, or suffer repercusions. Must have 10 or more post to join?
4. And as for the Clan contest I am working on an anthem but someone else could do the flag.

Are you guys looking for any new members? I'm interested in joining.

Well, it appears as though I will have some sort of limited internet access for this week. :-D

@KAMELEON:
1: We give other people a chance to submit banners. I know mine was in there fast and is good, but we should still give other people a chance.
2: No objections other than that we should have an official "OK" from higher-ranking people (Like Syndicate and A_W and the like)
3: Sounds good, but 10 posts seems a little low
4: I'm not much for anthems, but I'm happy to make the flag if we get some ideas. However, due to my semi-absence, I have no access to photoshop for about a week, so I won't be able to work on it until then.

As for the motto: apprently no late mega-swings, so my entry into the banner contest will not change (I would have changed the motto to reflect the official one had something else won :p)

Hey guys, it has been brought to my attention that I am still on the members list. Please remove me. You can keep me as a friend (btw, you have me as both a member and a friend), but I have been a member of House Dimir for some time now. Cheers, guys!

I think we should shut down the voting poll because there are 40 votes total and we don't have 40 members so common sense tells us that non-members are voting.

When is the deadline for banner submissions?
How about 50 post in order to join?

Oh and here is my build for a B/W Control Deck:


Feel free to critique and I'm not sure about the SB, help would be appreciated.

Edit: Deck is updated!

@KAMELEON:
that deck isn't great, ghostly prison probably isn't worth running, and you have a little more removal than necessary. For a long discussion and ideas, check here.

Voting ends later today for official motto.

I'll put up a deadline for the banner submissions when we have at least three submissions.

By the time the next thread comes along, many of the inactive posters will be weeded out. At this point it doesn't make sense to have harsh posting restrictions, it isn't like we're being flooded with new members.

Whoopeee.

Okay, so I like the sound of the motto . . . banner up next.

Time to lok at some delicious art. Yay!

Oh, and a question: Shrieking Grotesque or Ravenous Rats - which is better?

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i prefer the grotesque because afterwards your opponent discards a card you can still use it because it's a 2/1 flyer.

I agree.

Oh my God. That has to be one of the most confused control decks ever. I think it likes to pretend it is a Gifts deck without the gifts in it.

What I mean is the creature base on it, drop all the creatures you have, with the exception of maybe Kagemaro and put in Poisonbelly Ogre's. Ghostly Prison works in the deck and Hissing Miasma is in, right? No, so put in Hissing Miasmas..afterwards you should have board/attack control, then to make it board/attack control bleeder toss in two or three Orzhova, The Church of Deals and you now have a constant way to drain your opponent of life and regain yours from you dropping the Kagemaro.

We got ourselves a motto, yeah. Now for the banner.

I still like Pacmanvr's motto best, but I'd say the one that got picked was probably second.

To be honest, after seeing guildpact, I don't think any of the guilds (card-wise, not flavour-wise) are really all that interesting. They all just seem so . . . blah to me. Now, flavour-wise, I still like the Orzhov better than anyone, but I think that card-wise, I'm just going to skip GP and wait for dissension.

The official motto has been decided. Thanks to everyone who participated.

With that in place, I hope many of you participate in making banners for this contest.

aww....i didnt win. anyways (ignoring my winning, yes im 2 years old) ive been trying to concoct another competitive BW control deck for standard. they are consistantly to expensive so i think ill be switching over to casual fopr some good old debter's kenll fun. cheers!