1000 Posts has been hit on thread 3 of the ARD clan so here we are with thread number 4 on MTGS. A momentous day for all members. Caffeine and beer (to those who are legal) to all on this day!
Alliance of Rogue Deckers has formed more than 2 years ago on the old MTGNews site and has transported itself here in what I shall call "The Great Exodus." We stand for all that is not popular about decking but is still competitive. Let us venture forth and claim more netdecks together!
Potential members: Please include in your first post a deck you built yourself with no outside help aside from card lists and spoilers. Membership will be determined by vote of our clan council.
Since I wanted to keep the first post for introductions I'll do a rare double post...
First off I didn't include that picture from the last thread because I think it might have messed with the neatness of the last thread... whenever I would edit the last thread weird spacing things would happen....
Secondly, about the Legacy tourney... I really don't know what to do about it now since I haven't heard about results from three matches. I'll list what the first round matches (and results if there were any) here for a quick reminder:
Phryxian vs. Crimson Avatar - Crimson Avatar wins 2-1
Uttermadness vs. The Revenant - Uttermadness wins 2-1
Sam111111 vs. frozen_yak
Zirilian vs. Silver Seraph
Casi Perfecto vs. Qwerty
If anyone has any ideas they'd be much appreciated...
LOL.... I guess old crims just demoted you!!! LOL...no seriously, I think he forgot,....but, well, Im happy we have a new thread.... maybe we should create a new Clan Photo, someone can Shop it, and we can have it by itself on apost....
what do you guys think??
PS: How long shall we wait for mathces to take place??
LOL.... I guess old crims just demoted you!!! LOL...no seriously, I think he forgot,....but, well, Im happy we have a new thread.... maybe we should create a new Clan Photo, someone can Shop it, and we can have it by itself on apost....
what do you guys think??
PS: How long shall we wait for mathces to take place??
Demotion :(. Oh well at least I get paid the same!!
Ok so starting on Warp World.dec. Gotta do it. It's... a broken broken card.
Or so I'm deluding myself juuuuust long enough to get this deck off the ground.
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Kodama's Reach
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Seething Song
4 Hunted Dragon
4 Scatter the Seeds
4 Warp World
So far so good! I figure Hunted Dragon could actually be replaced with something else but after a Warp World something with Haste should be good. Tokens and Land make Warp World go off I guess. I'm still tweaking it though. There's a lot of space left including control elements. Things like Scatter the Seeds are really good though because it creates 3 permanents and then goes to the graveyard so that it doesn't get shuffled back in. That's also why Sakura Tribe Elder is good. I'd really like to play a Wildfire first. I guess I still have room.
Hey, I was checking the old thread.... apparentely it was my turn this week to proppose a card for decking and discussion ...but I think Blue already went ahead with a card of his like?? ....if so, no probl, Ill do it next week...
Demotions suck... what happened was a combination of trying to make sure I had everyone and an error with the url linking on the site and probably with my typing. I tried to [*url][*/url] the bios because I had to type everything out again but somehow blue's and Scab's names came out as their URL's and not their screen names for some odd reason...
As for the tourney I'm not sure we can go on with three matches not taking place and what not... damn logistics...
Actually if I'm not mistaken blue already took his turn since he went first and suggested the idea. So I think it's ok if you suggest something to talk about.
Interested interested interested.
YOu guys need a decklist eh?
Well . . . my t2 MBC won't work, cause it's got a thread (even though my build was damn unique . . .)
So here's my current oct 20th t2 rogue deck:
4x frostling
4x desperate ritual
4x blood moon
4x hearth kami
4x char
2x hunted dragon
2x genju of the spires
4x volcanic hammer
3x Zo-zu the punisher
1x hitsagu's second rite
3x ronin houndmaster
2x pithing needle
It's pretty late at night here--and this is off the top of my memory. Basically the idea is to bring some beats and hate towards the current metagame. MD blood moon pawns gifts, hurts the rock, and can catch the U/B player off guard.
The rest should be pretty obvious . . .
Oh yeah, the 2 MD pithing are for Kagemaro. He's scary.
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Hey, I was checking the old thread.... apparentely it was my turn this week to proppose a card for decking and discussion ...but I think Blue already went ahead with a card of his like?? ....if so, no probl, Ill do it next week...
No no it's your turn. I was talking about that card cuz I'm actually thinking about a deck for it not cuz I wanted it to be the card of the week.
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and I can put drawings on it. Bad drawings from me, good ones from around the webwhose artists' names I lost.
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my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Well, Well...since Im allowed to pick a card, I will actually do so, with a very simple card I happen to like a lot:
* Ejem, ejem *
- Temporal Aperture -
Here's a card than can come in very handy, however, the one issue Ive had using it, is that I end up pulling lands some times ...and that is not nice...it has however won me games some times too, by bringing me the Avatar of Woe, or the Nightmare I need to Finish off my opponent.... Any Ideas for abusing the cards ?
Well, Well...since Im allowed to pick a card, I will actually do so, with a very simple card I happen to like a lot:
* Ejem, ejem *
- Temporal Aperture -
Here's a card than can come in very handy, however, the one issue Ive had using it, is that I end up pulling lands some times ...and that is not nice...it has however won me games some times too, by bringing me the Avatar of Woe, or the Nightmare I need to Finish off my opponent.... Any Ideas for abusing the cards ?
Temporal Aperture is really good. Especially in the Hot New Format.
Hot New Format - Magic
Rules: You play the game of magic as normal. You play cards as they are. Any card you have in your hand can be played face up as a land instead. You can tap it to add one mana for each mana symbol in that card's cost. If it has no mana symbols then it adds mana equal to the colorless. IE Pentavus played as a land will tap for 7 however Scornful Egotist played as a land will only add U. You all play off of the same deck and you only play with rares. Whenever you get a non rare or you get a land you just remove it from the game and draw a card.
Temporal Aperture is Broken in that game cuz it can easily come down and be activated on turn one.
I really like TA
Let's see.... What's stuff that can go with Temporal Aperture that you don't mind comes from your deck instead of your hand?
you use th ethawing glaciers to get out lands. Use the rest to stall out and out win with one of the creatures.
About the tourney. If we take out the inactive people we can still have one... so it would be: me, Rev, Utter, Blue, Crimson, Sam and Zirilian.
Brainstorm is great in there but you might as well play Muddle the Mixture and Scroll Rack too. Muddle acts as a counter and transmutes into Temporal Aperture which seems to be better than Fabricate. It can also go get you an impulse. Scroll Rack should be in there so you have a way to put cards you didn't want to draw back into your library. Otherwise I might suggest Compulsion and just use Serra Avatar and Darksteel Colossus instead of Akroma. Using Akroma seems fine but then you really want to activate it on your turn instead of at the end of your opponent's turn. She's still a beater obviously. But I think them using a STP to get rid of you Serra Avatar is actually quite nice
You should run 1 Mana Severance for the post aperture play :).
Thank good ness i am done with my x-ray program tests until about 2-3 weeks from now so i can take a break for a couple of days. I also might buy some ravnica packs this weekend and too bad i couldnt particpate in the clan tournament but probably next time i will well hopefully. Anyways i gotta jet for class soon. So cya all later.
I see you guys got creative on The Aperture ...didnt think it was that popular!!...Im surprised.....now... Ive seen a monoblack, and a Blue/White deck you guys propposed.... what about a Black/Green Temporal Aperture deck.... it'd be a bit easier since you can use some spells to avoid losing your aperture call when you pull a land (Being able to play more than one land).... and things of that sort....
You know me.... I love Combo and Temporal Aperature is just that. Instead of my normal "never to be achieved" combos that I normally end up with here's something a little more realistic:
This deck doesn't look like it can do much on its own but in all actuality there's an infinite combo there.... Karn + Aperture + Imagecrafter + Faces of the Paste + Myr Retriever combo = infinite spells being played. I decided to go on a Tendrils spree but you could just as easily pull off a Brain Freeze spree... The only bad part of the deck is you need 5 myr out there to even be able to pull off this combo... Certainly casual possibilities with a little messing...
Edit: Made some errors in the deck I made up in 10 seconds... big errors... Corrections here: I forgot to add something that you could sac the Retrievers to keep getting the other one back. This means you need 7 mana to win this way. I could put in Ashnod's Altar but that makes its own win condition off 2 myr retrievers constantly sacing to each other and then tendrilsing eh? So to stay more consistant with the deck I'd suggest something more along the lines of Thermal Navigator...
Seems like temporal aperture would be decent in a stax deck for legacy since the stax deck has a lot of mana acceration like chrome moxes, mox diamonds, and ancient tombs. Plus it could be decent against control well maybe.
Ah. Well, I can't play until the weekend. Friday. Maybe Saturday. <be there, be square.>>
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my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
sry blue.. didnt know. the problem with temporal aperture is that it shuffles and that scews up many combos...
By the way.. is this card of the week thing only for the council members to decide?
For now at least it is. We're doing the council members in order alphabetically then we will start over again. I think I suggested a rule a while ago that if the council member didn't choose by the next day the next person in line would do it and if they didn't choose one by Tuesday then anyone that decides to post one will get it as the card of the week. (only the first would count and only after Midnight US Central Time Tuesday.... cuz I'll be the one monitoring it)
Temporal Aperture is a lot of fun. I still say that if you don't want to hit lands then you should run Mana Severance. Then you can also include a Goblin Charbelcher. But then it's probably better just to run a 10 land belcher deck.
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Potential members: Please include in your first post a deck you built yourself with no outside help aside from card lists and spoilers. Membership will be determined by vote of our clan council.
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First off I didn't include that picture from the last thread because I think it might have messed with the neatness of the last thread... whenever I would edit the last thread weird spacing things would happen....
Secondly, about the Legacy tourney... I really don't know what to do about it now since I haven't heard about results from three matches. I'll list what the first round matches (and results if there were any) here for a quick reminder:
Phryxian vs. Crimson Avatar - Crimson Avatar wins 2-1
Uttermadness vs. The Revenant - Uttermadness wins 2-1
Sam111111 vs. frozen_yak
Zirilian vs. Silver Seraph
Casi Perfecto vs. Qwerty
If anyone has any ideas they'd be much appreciated...
There that's better. I'm alive again.
I have decided that Warp World is Really good. Let's build THAT deck ^_^.
what do you guys think??
PS: How long shall we wait for mathces to take place??
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Demotion :(. Oh well at least I get paid the same!!
Ok so starting on Warp World.dec. Gotta do it. It's... a broken broken card.
Or so I'm deluding myself juuuuust long enough to get this deck off the ground.
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Kodama's Reach
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Seething Song
4 Hunted Dragon
4 Scatter the Seeds
4 Warp World
So far so good! I figure Hunted Dragon could actually be replaced with something else but after a Warp World something with Haste should be good. Tokens and Land make Warp World go off I guess. I'm still tweaking it though. There's a lot of space left including control elements. Things like Scatter the Seeds are really good though because it creates 3 permanents and then goes to the graveyard so that it doesn't get shuffled back in. That's also why Sakura Tribe Elder is good. I'd really like to play a Wildfire first. I guess I still have room.
We'll see what fat monsters I can conjure up.
Lol I got a 20% pay raise this summer
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As for the tourney I'm not sure we can go on with three matches not taking place and what not... damn logistics...
Actually if I'm not mistaken blue already took his turn since he went first and suggested the idea. So I think it's ok if you suggest something to talk about.
YOu guys need a decklist eh?
Well . . . my t2 MBC won't work, cause it's got a thread (even though my build was damn unique . . .)
So here's my current oct 20th t2 rogue deck:
4x frostling
4x desperate ritual
4x blood moon
4x hearth kami
4x char
2x hunted dragon
2x genju of the spires
4x volcanic hammer
3x Zo-zu the punisher
1x hitsagu's second rite
3x ronin houndmaster
2x pithing needle
It's pretty late at night here--and this is off the top of my memory. Basically the idea is to bring some beats and hate towards the current metagame. MD blood moon pawns gifts, hurts the rock, and can catch the U/B player off guard.
The rest should be pretty obvious . . .
Oh yeah, the 2 MD pithing are for Kagemaro. He's scary.
No no it's your turn. I was talking about that card cuz I'm actually thinking about a deck for it not cuz I wanted it to be the card of the week.
I can't play until the weekend though ... but still.
And. Almost coinciding with the start of this thread, my website::
http://sf.zoomshare.com
is now fully operational. It's basically links to stories. But hey. It's better than
http://www.fictionpress.com/~samf
and I can put drawings on it. Bad drawings from me, good ones from around the webwhose artists' names I lost.
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
* Ejem, ejem *
- Temporal Aperture -
Here's a card than can come in very handy, however, the one issue Ive had using it, is that I end up pulling lands some times ...and that is not nice...it has however won me games some times too, by bringing me the Avatar of Woe, or the Nightmare I need to Finish off my opponent.... Any Ideas for abusing the cards ?
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Temporal Aperture is really good. Especially in the Hot New Format.
Hot New Format - Magic
Rules: You play the game of magic as normal. You play cards as they are. Any card you have in your hand can be played face up as a land instead. You can tap it to add one mana for each mana symbol in that card's cost. If it has no mana symbols then it adds mana equal to the colorless. IE Pentavus played as a land will tap for 7 however Scornful Egotist played as a land will only add U. You all play off of the same deck and you only play with rares. Whenever you get a non rare or you get a land you just remove it from the game and draw a card.
Temporal Aperture is Broken in that game cuz it can easily come down and be activated on turn one.
I really like TA
Let's see.... What's stuff that can go with Temporal Aperture that you don't mind comes from your deck instead of your hand?
3 Cabal Coffers
21 Swamp
4 Corrupt
4 Mutilate
4 Laquatis's Champion
4 Kokusho, the Evening Star
4 Cranial Extraction
4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Night's Whisper
4 Diabolic Edict
Maybe? Wait. Do Myojin get counters from the Aperture or not ?
4 Mana Leak
4 Counterspell
4 Ak
4 Brainstorm
4 Impuse
4 Darksteel Collossus
4 Fabricate
4 Serra Avatar
3 Akroma, angel of wrath
4 Thawing Glaciers
17 Islands
you use th ethawing glaciers to get out lands. Use the rest to stall out and out win with one of the creatures.
About the tourney. If we take out the inactive people we can still have one... so it would be: me, Rev, Utter, Blue, Crimson, Sam and Zirilian.
Brainstorm is great in there but you might as well play Muddle the Mixture and Scroll Rack too. Muddle acts as a counter and transmutes into Temporal Aperture which seems to be better than Fabricate. It can also go get you an impulse. Scroll Rack should be in there so you have a way to put cards you didn't want to draw back into your library. Otherwise I might suggest Compulsion and just use Serra Avatar and Darksteel Colossus instead of Akroma. Using Akroma seems fine but then you really want to activate it on your turn instead of at the end of your opponent's turn. She's still a beater obviously. But I think them using a STP to get rid of you Serra Avatar is actually quite nice
You should run 1 Mana Severance for the post aperture play :).
And I'm not in the tournament.
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8 Swamp
4 Imagecrafter
4 Faces of the Past
3 Compusion
4 Temporal Aperture
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Myr Retriever
3 Leaden Myr
3 Silver Myr
3 Iron Myr
3 Gold Myr
3 Copper Myr
3 Karn, Silver Golem
This deck doesn't look like it can do much on its own but in all actuality there's an infinite combo there.... Karn + Aperture + Imagecrafter + Faces of the Paste + Myr Retriever combo = infinite spells being played. I decided to go on a Tendrils spree but you could just as easily pull off a Brain Freeze spree... The only bad part of the deck is you need 5 myr out there to even be able to pull off this combo... Certainly casual possibilities with a little messing...
Edit: Made some errors in the deck I made up in 10 seconds... big errors... Corrections here:
I forgot to add something that you could sac the Retrievers to keep getting the other one back. This means you need 7 mana to win this way. I could put in Ashnod's Altar but that makes its own win condition off 2 myr retrievers constantly sacing to each other and then tendrilsing eh? So to stay more consistant with the deck I'd suggest something more along the lines of Thermal Navigator...
the problem with temporal aperture is that it shuffles and that scews up many combos...
By the way.. is this card of the week thing only for the council members to decide?
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
For now at least it is. We're doing the council members in order alphabetically then we will start over again. I think I suggested a rule a while ago that if the council member didn't choose by the next day the next person in line would do it and if they didn't choose one by Tuesday then anyone that decides to post one will get it as the card of the week. (only the first would count and only after Midnight US Central Time Tuesday.... cuz I'll be the one monitoring it)
Temporal Aperture is a lot of fun. I still say that if you don't want to hit lands then you should run Mana Severance. Then you can also include a Goblin Charbelcher. But then it's probably better just to run a 10 land belcher deck.
hmm.
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Rampant Growth
4 Harrow
4 Wayfarer's Bauble
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Telling Time
4 Remand
4 Goblin Charbelcher
4 Fabricate
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Diligent Farmhand
7 Forest
5 Island