I agree with Xyre in that the clan seems to be organizing towards a comon disbelief. But then thats what atheists do, they would never even organize if other religions didn't exist. I agree that the underlining premis is a little weak, but thats just the underlining premis. Clans do evolve over time, even these other guild clans will develop their own identities given enough time. It may not be a bad idea to grasp the guild ideal presented by Ravnica while discarding the presented colorschemes.
And thus we've turned a clan recruitment forum into a debate on the viabilty of clans based on their initial unifying factor.
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But that's the logical vanishing point, isn't it? As long as his clan cannot generate members, it cannot exist. As long as it cannot find a common belief, but instead is forced to fixate itself around a disbelief, it will not find enough members. But the entire focusing point of the clan is on atheism, which isn't a focusing point so much as a point of separation.
Therefore, the proof is as follows:
A=clan exists
B=generate members
C=find a focusing point
If B than A, if C than B
but if no B than no A, and if no C than no B
no C=>no B=>no A
Therefore, as long as this clan isn't focused, it won't exist, and by definition, this clan cannot focus itself. QED.
I mean, we'll see but I think this clan will probably not work out for one reason. Those that hate the guild clans are normally A. in other clans or B. Anti-all clans in general. As such, none of them are going to be likely to join this clan as anything more than a friend.
I mean I dislike the guild clans, and i wouldnt mind being a Friend, but what exactly would this clan talk about? How bad the guild clans are?
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Yeah, I don't want to fill 30 pages with 'i hate guild clans :teach:'.
I assume this would be a general discussion clan as well? I mean the Izzet clan don't sit around and plan what to blow up and how great Niv-Mizzet is, and Project Mayhem don't talk nonstop about Fight Club...
Although some clans, do, e.g. R&D (my clan) talk about card making pretty much all the time, and Ivory Tower talks about philosophy...but they're fairly general things...I just don't want this clan to get shut down because it looks like this:
i hate guild clans
So do i[quote]Then its settled. We both hate guild clans[quote]i hate guild clanz 2!
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first of all, its not appropriate to put in a sig since WxH of that image is 186x193
(the rules stated an image for a sig banner should be about 600x100)
secondly, thats not even a clan symbol
thats more like you put every guild symbols/insignias and green 'X' across it with G:A in the middle
thirdly(?), a clan with the objective/purpose/agenda of hating going against guild...clans is a bit of an irony IMO
you* can *****/whine/rant all you want about guildclans but to put it into action (meaning to create a clan), wow, thats something else
so kudos to u blobman...
* - no, i dont specifically means u blobman, u might've created this clan n used the 'atheist' term as a gimmick, i dont knw...only u knw for sure
EDIT: 'hating' is a strong word...i think 'anti' would be more appropriate
Ah, it was only bound to happen. I was actually talking with someone a few months ago about this, though I must say it's quite late. Although, I must wonder why you didn't join the Cult of Yore. You guys seem to have similar interests, and at the moment neither have many members.
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Ah, it was only bound to happen. I was actually talking with someone a few months ago about this, though I must say it's quite late. Although, I must wonder why you didn't join the Cult of Yore. You guys seem to have similar interests, and at the moment neither have many members.
I wasn't around months ago, I am a fairly new member but a while long lurker
Interesting logo...blob. However, having both that and your banner in your sig may violate Alex+'s banner rules.
But anyway, good luck with everything. Hope it all works out.
Interesting logo...blob. However, having both that and your banner in your sig may violate Alex+'s banner rules.
But anyway, good luck with everything. Hope it all works out.
What are these rules you speak of, am I only allowed 1 600 by 100 thing?
this clan will die, and if it doesn't the guild clans will take it out. I'm sick of people bandwagoning and saying the guild clans suck. especially when your making a guild??? or are you making a clan??
guild clan members contriubute 100x more to these boards then you do. nuff said,either way tehpincushion just PWNED you.
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this clan will die, and if it doesn't the guild clans will take it out. I'm sick of people bandwagoning and saying the guild clans suck. especially when your making a guild??? or are you making a clan??
guild clan members contriubute 100x more to these boards then you do. nuff said,either way tehpincushion just PWNED you.
You haven't won anything. And I'm positive you have so many Rakdos n00bs spamming the forums with
"rAkd0S 4 eVURs"
Don't say anything, you wanna fight, I'll take you on!
I'm not guild hating, I'm just not with you, but I guess from your uneeded attacks and silly attacks I can go on your thread and PWN you all (Alittle help would be nice)
Look, pincushion and Deliverance, just because his clan is opposed to the theory of Guild clans, you still don't have the right to barge in and argue with him. Or attack his principles.
Look, pincushion and Deliverance, just because his clan is opposed to the theory of Guild clans, you still don't have the right to barge in and argue with him. Or attack his principles.
D'OH, I guess you'll have to type the same speak to me on there thread as I counter attacked.
Whatever. But, however, you will lose. Your one man army will not stand a chance. Especially since that one man fails at life.
Wow, how do you no if I have a life. I enjoy competition so I will win the fight even if the battles turn out in your way. I know that I know how to feel things opposed to you who only knows a one sided arguement.
Wait... why are you forming a clan that's against clans? Isn't that kind of like, say, putting the Anarchy symbol on your Abercrombie & Fitch anything?
If it won't happen and "fighting" ensues I think I'll be forced to sacrifice three virgins and a goat to summon Furor, almighty overlord of all clans, to enforce it!
Or you could invoke the holy ritual of pressing the report button.
But seriously, you probably should do that, if only to get the Rakdos back to their thread...where they belong.
Wait... why are you forming a clan that's against clans? Isn't that kind of like, say, putting an Anarchy symbol on your Abercrombie & Fitch?
No, i am not. I am just saying I am not apart and don't like there ideas. I'm using the Guild clans as a reference point of how I dont want my clan to be. I want my clans to be driven by all types of things, not just very many shades of gray like some guild clans. I'm not saying I'm versing them (even though I was attacked) I'm just saying our clan can be all around different then the other clan and incorporate many beliefs not just 2 ideals.
I have a question for everyone
Are all atheist AGAINST religuon or do they just not apart of it, living differently than it.
I want my clans to be driven by all types of things, not just very many shades of gray like some guild clans. I'm not saying I'm versing them (even though I was attacked) I'm just saying our clan can be all around different then the other clan and incorporate many beliefs not just 2 ideals.
But that's the logical vanishing point, isn't it? As long as his clan cannot generate members, it cannot exist. As long as it cannot find a common belief, but instead is forced to fixate itself around a disbelief, it will not find enough members. But the entire focusing point of the clan is on atheism, which isn't a focusing point so much as a point of separation.
Therefore, the proof is as follows:
A=clan exists
B=generate members
C=find a focusing point
If B than A, if C than B
but if no B than no A, and if no C than no B
no C=>no B=>no A
Therefore, as long as this clan isn't focused, it won't exist, and by definition, this clan cannot focus itself. QED.
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I mean I dislike the guild clans, and i wouldnt mind being a Friend, but what exactly would this clan talk about? How bad the guild clans are?
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I assume this would be a general discussion clan as well? I mean the Izzet clan don't sit around and plan what to blow up and how great Niv-Mizzet is, and Project Mayhem don't talk nonstop about Fight Club...
Although some clans, do, e.g. R&D (my clan) talk about card making pretty much all the time, and Ivory Tower talks about philosophy...but they're fairly general things...I just don't want this clan to get shut down because it looks like this:
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1) I'm not really a member, and
2) I don't want to clutter up my sig.
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(the rules stated an image for a sig banner should be about 600x100)
secondly, thats not even a clan symbol
thats more like you put every guild symbols/insignias and green 'X' across it with G:A in the middle
thirdly(?), a clan with the objective/purpose/agenda of
hatinggoing against guild...clans is a bit of an irony IMOyou* can *****/whine/rant all you want about guildclans but to put it into action (meaning to create a clan), wow, thats something else
so kudos to u blobman...
* - no, i dont specifically means u blobman, u might've created this clan n used the 'atheist' term as a gimmick, i dont knw...only u knw for sure
EDIT: 'hating' is a strong word...i think 'anti' would be more appropriate
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What are these rules you speak of, am I only allowed 1 600 by 100 thing?
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guild clan members contriubute 100x more to these boards then you do. nuff said,either way tehpincushion just PWNED you.
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You haven't won anything. And I'm positive you have so many Rakdos n00bs spamming the forums with
"rAkd0S 4 eVURs"
Don't say anything, you wanna fight, I'll take you on!
I'm not guild hating, I'm just not with you, but I guess from your uneeded attacks and silly attacks I can go on your thread and PWN you all (Alittle help would be nice)
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D'OH, I guess you'll have to type the same speak to me on there thread as I counter attacked.
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That was no counterattack. That was you attacking first.
What are you talking about, your member attacked first in MY thread.
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Wow, how do you no if I have a life. I enjoy competition so I will win the fight even if the battles turn out in your way. I know that I know how to feel things opposed to you who only knows a one sided arguement.
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your Abercrombie & Fitchanything?Or you could invoke the holy ritual of pressing the report button.
But seriously, you probably should do that, if only to get the Rakdos back to their thread...where they belong.
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No, i am not. I am just saying I am not apart and don't like there ideas. I'm using the Guild clans as a reference point of how I dont want my clan to be. I want my clans to be driven by all types of things, not just very many shades of gray like some guild clans. I'm not saying I'm versing them (even though I was attacked) I'm just saying our clan can be all around different then the other clan and incorporate many beliefs not just 2 ideals.
I have a question for everyone
Are all atheist AGAINST religuon or do they just not apart of it, living differently than it.
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Hasn't this entire thread been about just that?
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Thats what I am trying to say, but It has seen the rakdos had seen other wise.
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