Welcome to The Izzet clan! This is a clan for people who like The Izzet (the blue/red guild which will be appearing in Guildpact), or who are just fans of red/blue. If you wish to join The Izzet, please read the Application Rules below.
MEMBERS: Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of The Izzet spediesteban422 - Acolyte of Lavamancy AnotherCrimeScene - Apprentice of Lavamancy
dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of The Izzet Darkon~ - Acolyte of Frontier Knowledge White Dragon - Apprentice of Frontier Knowledge
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy Shino Tenshi - Acolyte of Flame Alchemy BornInChaos - Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom Alabaska J - Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom
Welsh Dude - Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation zef - Acolyte of Spell Manipulation Tiki_man - Apprentice of Spell Manipulation
Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition Elvish Crack Piper - Acolyte of Prohibition Jaharu - Apprentice of Prohibition
Draak - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of Goblin Shenanigans Birger - Acolyte of Goblin Shenanigans Niv-Mizzet the Firemind - Apprentice of Goblin Shenanigans
Wuffles_II - Eighth Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies UV_Chemist - Acolyte of the Skies Doob - Apprentice of the Skies
BweeBwee - Ninth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives Atrius - Acolyte of Experimental Explosives Izzet_Dragonmage - Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
Rakdos Exalted Urza Doctor Teeth Sliver Underlord Schulzy Xathrax Tyler Durden xzibit_a F1r3ball BaKeD87Sk8 Genghis Khan The raven Ihsan_The Demon
Friends Boros Forgotten Hope Maxrpg Master of Darkness Charlie Donaldson void nothing
Orzhov wackyo86 arch_wooh dragonhunter sam111111
Other MasterBeeble (Founder) godless_angel diggy magic_pie (Former member) Elvish Champion Nocturn zoombinimatt kobisjeruk Canabiest Infinite Draw Oasis! purple pirate Wrath_of_DoG Ahriman Singer of White Line
Members Who Left MasterBeeble (Founder) Aisling_Lepruchaun magic_pie Spectyr purple pirate Oasis! (Former Leader)
STUFF: Application Rules To join The Izzet, please post the following in this thread:
Username: ____ Reason you wish to join: ____ High Mage you wish to Apprentice under: ____ Anything else about you: ____
Be sure to keep it in this format. Do not PM anyone or post anywhere other than this thread or your application will be ignored. Also read the High Mage/Apprentice Rules below.
Playtesting Groups With Guildpact only days away, we Izzet are eager to start testing our mad, mad decks as soon as possible. We have organized a playtesting group which will primarily use Magic Workstation, but will use Apprentice on occasion. For the time being, only members of our clan will be in this group, but in the near future we may add members from other clans. Here is a list of members who have provided their MSN e-mails:
[EMAIL="wuffles_ii@hotmail.com"]
[/EMAIL] High Mage/Acolyte/Apprentice Rules Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has less than an Acolyte and no Apprentices. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Apprentice of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Erratic Portal The Erratic Portal is the place where all of our inactive users go. If they return, they will be put back on the members list. Current Lab Residents: RoyalBearAssasin Squrrelwraith
How about some conversation starters, pick one or more topic and respond:
On a scale of 1 to awesome, how sweet nasty is it that solifuge is a 4/1?
What do you think will be the optimal izzet deck from what we have right now in t2?
I like the Solifuge a lot, but the fact that it's at a 1 toughness makes it EXTREMELY vulnerable to Night of Souls Betrayal, Hideous Laughter and the new Orzhov card.
To me, the optimal Izzet deck seems like a Counter-Burn variant.
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I like the Solifuge a lot, but the fact that it's at a 1 toughness makes it EXTREMELY vulnerable to Night of Souls Betrayal, Hideous Laughter and the new Orzhov card.
To me, the optimal Izzet deck seems like a Counter-Burn variant.
But that, my friend, is why it is so awesome! Its only use for us was as a semi-finisher, and it didn't really fit that well as opposed to niv mizzet, gelectrode, and wee dragonauts as our major source of damage. It's main value was obviously wiht the gruul, and at 4/3, it would be near impossible for us to stop it. So i'm asking how awesome it is that we don't have to find ways to deal with it now against RG beats/ponza.
Let's not jump the gun here bweeb, solifuge is still a major control-killer. It is bad against Ghaziglare and black-based control, to be sure, but it still owns the hell out of Izzet. I do agree tho that Rolling slum is strictly superior to it now in terms of 4-drops.
Also, Canadaman, Can you change the format of the first page to "The Council"? I think it could be something like this, if you odn't mind me making some petty administrative suggestions in terms of wording:
High Mage/Acolyte/Apprentice Rules
Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has less than an Acolyte and no Apprentices. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Apprentice of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of The Izzet
spediesteban422 - "Acolyte of Lavamancy"
AnotherCrimeScene - "Apprentice of Lavamancy"
dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of The Izzet
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy
Shino Tenshi - "Acolyte of Flame Alchemy"
Psychoburner - "Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom
Alabaska J - "Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom"
Phalanx - "Apprentice of Recycled Wisdom"
Welsh Dude - Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation
zef - "Acolyte of Spell Manipulation"
Tiki_man - "Apprentice of Spell Manipulation"
Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition
Elvish Crack Piper - "Acolyte of Prohibition"
Draak - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of Goblin Shenanigans
Birger - "Acolyte of Goblin Shenanigans"
Niv-Mizzet the Firemind - "Apprentice of Goblin Shenanigans"
Wuffles_II -Eighth Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies
UV_Chemist - "Acolyte of the Skies"
BweeBwee - Ninth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives
Atrius - "Acolyte of Experimental Explosives"
Izzet_Dragonmage - "Apprentice of Experimental Explosives"
Correct me if I am overstepping my bounds, but now that Oasis! (the only person who seemed opposed to the move) is gone, I think that it would be the irght time to implement it
EDIT - Noticed CanadaMan spelt Representative wrong
congratulations on finding a new leader for you clan
may you prosper under a new enlightenment of scientific discovery
secondly, i had asked if i could be a friend of the izzet clan, seeing as we are both men of science, but i fear the post got lost in the shuffle of finding a replacement leader
Let's not jump the gun here bweeb, solifuge is still a major control-killer. It is bad against Ghaziglare and black-based control, to be sure, but it still owns the hell out of Izzet. I do agree tho that Rolling slum is strictly superior to it now in terms of 4-drops.
Actually, i think that its quite a lot more managable, seeing as how a simple pyroclasm can kill it, as well as wee dragonauts. But it still will likely by a problem for other control decks without red.
Actually, i think that its quite a lot more managable, seeing as how a simple pyroclasm can kill it, as well as wee dragonauts. But it still will likely by a problem for other control decks without red.
wee dragonauts with a leap of flame replicated once targeting it both times will be able to take down a rumbling slum (which, as a 5/5 for 4, i would be more concerned about than a 4/1 for 4 that can't be the target of spells or effects)
Guys, do you really see leap of flame seeing competitve play...I mean really, you can trigger teh dragonauts or gelectrodes with BURN...or DRAW. That spell just isn't going to to see T2 play ever. However, it WILL be a HOUSE in limited.
Guys, do you really see leap of flame seeing competitve play...I mean really, you can trigger teh dragonauts or gelectrodes with BURN...or DRAW. That spell just isn't going to to see T2 play ever. However, it WILL be a HOUSE in limited.
i honestly see it being played in T2 as a combat trick in RU fish
Yeah, what wuffles said. And im much less concerned with rumbling slum seeing as how we can just burn him out becuase hes not untargetable. A simple Gelectrode+char can take him down easy, with a damage to spare, perhaps something along the lines of:
Tap Gelectrode for one damage to Burning tree shaman.
PLay electrolyze on shaman, untap gelectrode, use gelectrode on shaman again.
Play char targeting slum, untap gelectrode
Tap gelectrode for one damage to slum, slum dies.
Swing with wee dragonauts for 5.
End result, dead slum, dead shaman, live gelectrode, used char, used electrolyze, one drawn card for just 6 mana, which isn't too much. You take some damage, 4 to be exact, 2 from char, 2 from burning tree shaman, but they take 5 and lost two creatures.
EDIT: you see it being played in RU fish? OK, name some cards that would go into RU fish, and how leap of flame would help it. RU fish will be weak compared to counterburn w/ gelectrode+wee dragonauts.
-3 disrupting shoal, there are better counters
-3 izzet signet, i don't think you need too much mana accel
-2 jitte, your deck really isn't that aggressive, and this will just take up mana for burn and counters
+4 remand, better counter
+4 hinder, also a better counter
In other news, I rear-ended someone today (no real damages on either car and no injuries, but damn if it wasn't unnerving. Driving in rain is jsut different.)
And the Patriots lost.
It's been quite the bad day for me.
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Im going to the pre release in NY. Also to 2HD . I think i'd perfer kiega as a 3 of for the finisher in that dekc. Niv can't be cast turn 6 reliably and we need our lands on the table to be able to deal with whatever remaining threats they lay down. Also where is char among your burn spells. Disrupting shoal seems like a bad choice but thats just because I don't like the card. I'd run Jushi over magipe for card draw.The guildmage seems rather suboptimal in this deck though I suppose you could run him. I'd definetly run mana leak as countering doesn't get much better in T2. Theres more stuff but I can't seem to think of it right now. Good rough draft though. I'm sure playtesting would show I just made alot of mistakes.:)
Also Woot to being second mage of the council.
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go canadaman!! well i cant type for long, im goin camping for the next 2 days. solifuge sucks cause a meloku token can kill it, so i wont b posting for a few. c yas.
Welcome to The Izzet clan! This is a clan for people who like The Izzet (the blue/red guild which will be appearing in Guildpact), or who are just fans of red/blue. If you wish to join The Izzet, please read the Application Rules below.
MEMBERS:
Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of The Izzet
spediesteban422 - Acolyte of Lavamancy
AnotherCrimeScene - Apprentice of Lavamancy
dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of The Izzet
Darkon~ - Acolyte of Frontier Knowledge
White Dragon - Apprentice of Frontier Knowledge
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy
Shino Tenshi - Acolyte of Flame Alchemy
BornInChaos - Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom
Alabaska J - Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom
Welsh Dude - Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation
zef - Acolyte of Spell Manipulation
Tiki_man - Apprentice of Spell Manipulation
Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition
Elvish Crack Piper - Acolyte of Prohibition
Jaharu - Apprentice of Prohibition
Draak - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of Goblin Shenanigans
Birger - Acolyte of Goblin Shenanigans
Niv-Mizzet the Firemind - Apprentice of Goblin Shenanigans
Wuffles_II - Eighth Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies
UV_Chemist - Acolyte of the Skies
Doob - Apprentice of the Skies
BweeBwee - Ninth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives
Atrius - Acolyte of Experimental Explosives
Izzet_Dragonmage - Apprentice of Experimental Explosives
ALLIES AND FRIENDS:
Allies
Dimir
PurpleD
Surging Chaos
Rorix Blade
KoolKoal
Azerael
Goatchunx
Rayne
Rakdos
Exalted Urza
Doctor Teeth
Sliver Underlord
Schulzy
Xathrax
Tyler Durden
xzibit_a
F1r3ball
BaKeD87Sk8
Genghis Khan
The raven
Ihsan_The Demon
Friends
Boros
Forgotten Hope
Maxrpg
Master of Darkness
Charlie Donaldson
void nothing
Orzhov
wackyo86
arch_wooh
dragonhunter
sam111111
Other
MasterBeeble (Founder)
godless_angel
diggy
magic_pie (Former member)
Elvish Champion
Nocturn
zoombinimatt
kobisjeruk
Canabiest
Infinite Draw
Oasis!
purple pirate
Wrath_of_DoG
Ahriman
Singer of White Line
Members Who Left
MasterBeeble (Founder)
Aisling_Lepruchaun
magic_pie
Spectyr
purple pirate
Oasis! (Former Leader)
STUFF:
Application Rules
To join The Izzet, please post the following in this thread:
Username: ____
Reason you wish to join: ____
High Mage you wish to Apprentice under: ____
Anything else about you: ____
Be sure to keep it in this format. Do not PM anyone or post anywhere other than this thread or your application will be ignored. Also read the High Mage/Apprentice Rules below.
Playtesting Groups
With Guildpact only days away, we Izzet are eager to start testing our mad, mad decks as soon as possible. We have organized a playtesting group which will primarily use Magic Workstation, but will use Apprentice on occasion. For the time being, only members of our clan will be in this group, but in the near future we may add members from other clans. Here is a list of members who have provided their MSN e-mails:
Izzet_Dragonmage - [EMAIL="phyrexian_kavu@hotmail.com"]phyrexian_kavu@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]
BweeBwee - [EMAIL="Bwee__Bwee@hotmail.com"]Bwee__Bwee@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]
Canada Man - [EMAIL="spanishinquisition@hotmail.com"]spanishinquisition@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]
Wuffles_II - [EMAIL="wuffles_ii@hotmail.com"]wuffles_ii@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]
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Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has less than an Acolyte and no Apprentices. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Apprentice of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Old Threads
MasterBeeble and Niv-Mizzet calling out all The Izzet
[The Izzet] Do you really want to know what Experiment #267 is?
[The Izzet] The world is our guinea pig. Let's experiment.
[The Izzet] Even if our experiments go wrong, we'll still blow you up.
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The Erratic Portal is the place where all of our inactive users go. If they return, they will be put back on the members list.
Current Lab Residents:
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Thanks to Charlie Donaldson for Banner
Straight Member of the Gaymers
I see Oasis has left you! Thats too bad. Hope you guys can epicall6y continue to kill yourselfs in creative means of exploding still.
Good luck, Izzies!
EDIT - Damnit, BweeBwee. getting there before me.
He will take the Acolyte position, unless Phalanx is seriously upset by this.
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How about some conversation starters, pick one or more topic and respond:
On a scale of 1 to awesome, how sweet nasty is it that solifuge is a 4/1?
What do you think of mizzium tranreliquat (or however you spell that craziness)?
What do you think will be the optimal izzet deck from what we have right now in t2?
I like the Solifuge a lot, but the fact that it's at a 1 toughness makes it EXTREMELY vulnerable to Night of Souls Betrayal, Hideous Laughter and the new Orzhov card.
To me, the optimal Izzet deck seems like a Counter-Burn variant.
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But that, my friend, is why it is so awesome! Its only use for us was as a semi-finisher, and it didn't really fit that well as opposed to niv mizzet, gelectrode, and wee dragonauts as our major source of damage. It's main value was obviously wiht the gruul, and at 4/3, it would be near impossible for us to stop it. So i'm asking how awesome it is that we don't have to find ways to deal with it now against RG beats/ponza.
Also, Canadaman, Can you change the format of the first page to "The Council"? I think it could be something like this, if you odn't mind me making some petty administrative suggestions in terms of wording:
High Mage/Acolyte/Apprentice Rules
Each new member that joins must choose a High Mage to apprentice under that has less than an Acolyte and no Apprentices. In the event that every High Mage has an Acolyte and an Apprentice, and a new member wishes to join, they may pick any High Mage to Apprentice under, and the first Apprentice of that High Mage becomes a High Mage with their own area of expertise. They will also be offered a place in The Council, (The Izzet elite) according to their seniority in the clan.
Canada Man - First Magi of The Council, High Mage of Lavamancy, Leader of The Izzet
spediesteban422 - "Acolyte of Lavamancy"
AnotherCrimeScene - "Apprentice of Lavamancy"
dark2k - Second Magi of The Council, High Mage of Frontier Knowledge, Representative of The Izzet
Two-Headed Dragon - Third Magi of The Council, High Mage of Flame Alchemy
Shino Tenshi - "Acolyte of Flame Alchemy"
Psychoburner - "Apprentice of Flame Alchemy
rocker05 - Fourth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Recycled Wisdom
Alabaska J - "Acolyte of Recycled Wisdom"
Phalanx - "Apprentice of Recycled Wisdom"
Welsh Dude - Fifth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Spell Manipulation
zef - "Acolyte of Spell Manipulation"
Tiki_man - "Apprentice of Spell Manipulation"
Faust - Sixth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Prohibition
Elvish Crack Piper - "Acolyte of Prohibition"
Draak - Seventh Magi of The Council, High Mage of Goblin Shenanigans
Birger - "Acolyte of Goblin Shenanigans"
Niv-Mizzet the Firemind - "Apprentice of Goblin Shenanigans"
Wuffles_II -Eighth Magi of The Council, High Mage of the Skies
UV_Chemist - "Acolyte of the Skies"
BweeBwee - Ninth Magi of The Council, High Mage of Experimental Explosives
Atrius - "Acolyte of Experimental Explosives"
Izzet_Dragonmage - "Apprentice of Experimental Explosives"
Correct me if I am overstepping my bounds, but now that Oasis! (the only person who seemed opposed to the move) is gone, I think that it would be the irght time to implement it
EDIT - Noticed CanadaMan spelt Representative wrong
may you prosper under a new enlightenment of scientific discovery
secondly, i had asked if i could be a friend of the izzet clan, seeing as we are both men of science, but i fear the post got lost in the shuffle of finding a replacement leader
good luck on the experimentation
Actually, i think that its quite a lot more managable, seeing as how a simple pyroclasm can kill it, as well as wee dragonauts. But it still will likely by a problem for other control decks without red.
wee dragonauts with a leap of flame replicated once targeting it both times will be able to take down a rumbling slum (which, as a 5/5 for 4, i would be more concerned about than a 4/1 for 4 that can't be the target of spells or effects)
I like pie.
i honestly see it being played in T2 as a combat trick in RU fish
Tap Gelectrode for one damage to Burning tree shaman.
PLay electrolyze on shaman, untap gelectrode, use gelectrode on shaman again.
Play char targeting slum, untap gelectrode
Tap gelectrode for one damage to slum, slum dies.
Swing with wee dragonauts for 5.
End result, dead slum, dead shaman, live gelectrode, used char, used electrolyze, one drawn card for just 6 mana, which isn't too much. You take some damage, 4 to be exact, 2 from char, 2 from burning tree shaman, but they take 5 and lost two creatures.
EDIT: you see it being played in RU fish? OK, name some cards that would go into RU fish, and how leap of flame would help it. RU fish will be weak compared to counterburn w/ gelectrode+wee dragonauts.
My recommendations:
-3 disrupting shoal, there are better counters
-3 izzet signet, i don't think you need too much mana accel
-2 jitte, your deck really isn't that aggressive, and this will just take up mana for burn and counters
+4 remand, better counter
+4 hinder, also a better counter
for now.
Sounds good to me. And I've made the final decision to have 9 members on The Council. Also, by the way, it's "Canada Man". Two words.
Edit: I should also post something on the Clan Recruitment thread. What information do you guys think should be up there?
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Thanks Canada Man, I know that there's a space in your name, I will try not to make that typo again lol.
I like pie.
In other news, is there anyone in the guild who lives in the boston area and is goign to the prerelease there?
Damn, i think that U/R fried dragonaut might be a viable deck archetype
I like pie.
In other news, I rear-ended someone today (no real damages on either car and no injuries, but damn if it wasn't unnerving. Driving in rain is jsut different.)
And the Patriots lost.
It's been quite the bad day for me.
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Also Woot to being second mage of the council.
High Mage of Frontier Knowledge in the [Izzet] clan:symru: Want to know the secret to chaos Click Here
Cross your fingers that his clan picks up.
-Oto