I'm considering on getting an iMac (or Mac Book). My existing laptop (non-Mac) is almost at its life's end (6 years old). I just want to get your thoughts/opinions on Macs from either existing or non-users and whether it would be worth to get a Mac or get a PC-based laptop with Windows 7 (or even Linux). As an aside, my laptop runs Windows XP.
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As someone who has been building computers since 12th grade in 1997, has repaired both Mac and PC desktops and laptops, and is almost done with a computer engineering degree...
There is no different between a Mac and a PC, desktop or laptop, besides a trendy case and a BIOS chip.
Since Apple switched to Intel CPUs, Macs basically use identical components to PCs aside from their BIOS chip. And all the BIOS chip does is let the user load whatever version of OS X they want without any compatibility issues. Although in recent years, OS X has been put on to more and more PCs successfully as the OSx86 and Hackintosh projects refine their procedures and make the whole process easier and more user friendly to do.
So the real question that it comes down to anymore is are you willing to spend a lot more for the same hardware in a different case?
For the record, when I built my current desktop (2.2GHz Phenom 955 x4, 4GB of 800MHz DDR2 RAM, 6TB of hard drive space [4x1.5TB], 2x 1GB nVidia GTS 250s, and a normal DVD drive), it cost me $1500. Out of curiosity, I went to Apple's webpage and "customized" a Mac Pro (the only Mac desktop you can upgrade yourself without an interior decorating degree to figure out how to cram everything back into an iMac just to upgrade RAM) with specifications as close as I could (such as Intel Xeon instead of a Phenom, and a pair of nVidia 210s instead of a pair of nVidia GTS 250s) and the price came out to a bit over $6000.
Intel or Mac...the only questions you need to ask yourself about these two anymore is "how deep is my wallet?" and "do I want to be a hipster?"
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Don't think i could have said it any better then Solaran X, save yourself some money and multiple headaches and get a PC. I was able to get a laptop has a i7, 1gb video card, 4gb of RAM, and a 500gb HDD, and can run every game I buy. All for around $800.
You can also get your stuff repaired if you're not terribly savvy with computers a lot easier with PC.
I have a buddy who had a problem with a Macbook, he had to take it to an Apple store to get it fixed next day after making an appointment. If it wasn't a Mac, he could've saved himself a 40 minute trip and making an appointment to go to multiple repair centers that were closer.
If you really want to run OSX, you can get that to run on a non apple built machine and it'll save you a bundle. That's the real issue, as Solaran_X has highlighted and financial reports have confirmed: Apple has the highest margins in the computing industry, despite a very small market share. When you're buying a Mac, what you're buying is a very fancy case with special software that isn't necessarily any better than the competition, is harder to upgrade, and has a substantial markup.
I'm not saying it doesn't work - they work well - just that it's not cost effective.
I have a Macbook with Windows 7 Bootcamp and I love it. I like the sleekness of the Macbook, but I HATE OSX and any Mac OS, plus I like to play MTGO on it so Windows 7 is a must. It runs great though and haven't had any major problems with it. If you want a laptop and want it to be sleek, I would go with a Macbook. A lot of HP laptops and others are really heavy and bulky, and have huge battery packs that stick out. I like the sleekness of the Macbook personally. They aren't the cheapest though.
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It's all preference and price. If I were to get a computer now, I would get a Lenovo Thinkpad, probably the x120e.
Macs are overpriced, generally. I like OSX better than Windows 7 but Windows 7 is pretty great, and it's more my preference than me actively disliking either. At the same time, windows laptops are much cheaper because there's a competitive ecosystem for them.
Linux is good but you have to know what you're getting into before you do it. Talk about OSX not having support for programs ... egh.
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Are you planning on doing anything involving the arts, such as recording, graphic design, or video editing? If the answer is no, don't get a mac.
Windows is generally better for business/office type things, while macs are better for the arts. However, much more applications are compatible with windows. Windows is also cheaper, but you will have to get a good anti-virus program and a registry cleaner.
Personally, I own a windows 7 laptop and an OSX imac. I prefer the way windows is set up, it is much easier for me. My laptop cost $600, and my imac cost $1800. I only use the mac for audio recording.
Here is an extra piece of advice: do NOT get a linux. They are awful, and not compatible with anything.
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Are you planning on doing anything involving the arts, such as recording, graphic design, or video editing? If the answer is no, don't get a mac.
Windows is generally better for business/office type things, while macs are better for the arts. However, much more applications are compatible with windows. Windows is also cheaper, but you will have to get a good anti-virus program and a registry cleaner.
Personally, I own a windows 7 laptop and an OSX imac. I prefer the way windows is set up, it is much easier for me. My laptop cost $600, and my imac cost $1800. I only use the mac for audio recording.
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Same applies to Macs.
All year so far, OS X has actually been ranked as the least secure of the big three OSes (Windows-based, OS X-based, and Linux-based) because the average Mac user buys into the whole "Macs don't get viruses" line and never get or update their anti-virus and OS. And apparently, OS X has more open back doors in it's system for exploitation than any Windows release to date.
Viruses aimed at OS X have actually been on an increase of late. This is likely due to the growing popularity of OS X because of the refinement of the Hackintosh and OSx86 projects that put OS X on to non-Mac PCs. These people are likely keeping their anti-virus up to date, but the users of true Macs aren't and as such are getting hit with viruses of late.
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Intel or Mac...the only questions you need to ask yourself about these two anymore is "how deep is my wallet?" and "do I want to be a hipster?"
It's not about the hardware - it's about the operating system. Mac's is inherently more intuitive and more stable. It has nothing to do with being a hipster.
All year so far, OS X has actually been ranked as the least secure of the big three OSes (Windows-based, OS X-based, and Linux-based) because the average Mac user buys into the whole "Macs don't get viruses" line and never get or update their anti-virus and OS. And apparently, OS X has more open back doors in it's system for exploitation than any Windows release to date.
Viruses aimed at OS X have actually been on an increase of late. This is likely due to the growing popularity of OS X because of the refinement of the Hackintosh and OSx86 projects that put OS X on to non-Mac PCs. These people are likely keeping their anti-virus up to date, but the users of true Macs aren't and as such are getting hit with viruses of late.
Source? I've been using them for years and years and know people who have done the same and I've never heard of anyone getting a virus or spyware on their Mac.
Edit @ OP - ask yourself this: Do you want a computer that works? If the answer is yes, shell out the extra cash for a Mac. I don't remember the last time I used a PC that felt like it even approached the level of functionality it should have. The PCs belonging to my brother, my girlfriend, my parents and the ones at school are all miserable pieces of crap and they all have (supposedly) good hardware. (Well, I can't say that's for sure with the computer lab ones.)
I personally think macs are incredibly unintuitive and have been surprised by how many times I've had to take 3-4 steps to do something that takes 1 step on Windows.
And Macs are the easiest to hack. They are repeatedly the first computers to be hacked in hacking competitions like Pwn2Own, but real life viruses for OS X are far in between.
Go use one though. If you like it, buy it. Worst case scenario, you sell it for a $200 loss and you can still buy a PC. They're well made laptops, but I just don't like the OS.
It's not about the hardware - it's about the operating system. Mac's is inherently more intuitive and more stable. It has nothing to do with being a hipster.
Initially, OS X was a major selling point for Macs. But with the refinement of the Hackintosh and OSx86 projects, putting OS X on to a non-Mac PC is very easy and significantly cheaper than buying a Mac (since Mac and PC hardware is nearly identical now - only actually hardware difference [aside from the trendy case] is the BIOS chip).
Basically, you can pay $1800 for an iMac. Or you can pay $1000 for a PC with near identical, or better, hardware stats to the iMac and put OS X on to a hard drive partition and dual boot the system.
Since OS X can readily be put on to either a Mac or PC, it is all about how deep your pockets go and if you want to be a member of the Mac crowd.
Source? I've been using them for years and years and know people who have done the same and I've never heard of anyone getting a virus or spyware on their Mac.
I've found a few. Macs began getting viruses readily in 2006. Here is a 2010 article about a Mac virus and what to do if you get it.
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Basically, you can pay $1800 for an iMac. Or you can pay $1000 for a PC with near identical, or better, hardware stats to the iMac and put OS X on to a hard drive partition and dual boot the system.
Since OS X can readily be put on to either a Mac or PC, it is all about how deep your pockets go and if you want to be a member of the Mac crowd.
It's kinda hard to build a macbook pro. If Apple made the 13" macbook pro with Windows natively, it would've definitely been on my list of potential computers. It's the perfect college laptop for my needs.
It's kinda hard to build a macbook pro. If Apple made the 13" macbook pro with Windows natively, it would've definitely been on my list of potential computers. It's the perfect college laptop for my needs.
Or you can get a PC-based laptop with comparable/identical hardware for less money and set it up to dual boot OS X and Windows 7.
Edit @ OP - ask yourself this: Do you want a computer that works? If the answer is yes, shell out the extra cash for a Mac. I don't remember the last time I used a PC that felt like it even approached the level of functionality it should have. The PCs belonging to my brother, my girlfriend, my parents and the ones at school are all miserable pieces of crap and they all have (supposedly) good hardware. (Well, I can't say that's for sure with the computer lab ones.)
That's the typical elitist Mac user comment I expect.
Macs and PCs use identical hardware except for one chip on the motherboard. Same RAM, same CPUs, same GPUs, same hard drives, same everything except the one small BIOS chip. I can pull any component out of this current computer I have (except my CPU since an AM3 Phenom II 965 won't physically fit into a socket designed for an Intel CPU) and put it into a Mac and it will work and vice versa (once again, except for the CPUs because the sockets are physically different).
I have fixed desktop PCs. I have fixed laptop PCs. I have fixed desktop Macs. I have fixed MacBooks. (But I won't touch an iMac...that thing is too complicated inside to reassemble. Too much stuff crammed in one tiny space - I'm honestly surprised those things don't overheat and burn up.)
They all have the same failures and problems. And if you don't take care of your computer, Mac or PC, it will break on you. Just because you got a Mac doesn't mean that OEM motherboard will never develop a short or that the connections between the RAM and the socket won't tarnish and need reseated.
Just because it's a Mac and cost more than a PC doesn't make it inherently better. I've had my 18.4" Toshiba Satellite for as long as my friend has had his 13" MacBook Pro. He's had his MacBook in the shop a few times in the past two years. I've never had to do anything even once to my Toshiba.
Take the BIOS chip and case out of the equation between a Mac and a PC...and you have the exact same thing.
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Basically, you can pay $1800 for an iMac. Or you can pay $1000 for a PC with near identical, or better, hardware stats to the iMac and put OS X on to a hard drive partition and dual boot the system.
But the hardware on a Mac is designed to work specifically with the OS which makes for a much more stable, smoothly running system. That isn't true of a PC or of a PC made to run OSX.
As to the viruses & vulnerabilities: I'm not gonna worry about it unless it happens to me. (And I'm guessing it won't - another privilege of being a Mac user.) I've never touched a PC that didn't have to run some kind of ineffective, performance destroying anti-virus software.
I own a Windows computer. I enjoy watching Bluray and playing games on it. However, I wish I had the 7-10 hour battery life and metal unibody that the macbook pros have. There is not a comparable laptop on the market for less than the $1000 you can find it online for.
But the hardware on a Mac is designed to work specifically with the OS which makes for a much more stable, smoothly running system. That isn't true of a PC or of a PC made to run OSX.
As to the viruses & vulnerabilities: I'm not gonna worry about it unless it happens to me. (And I'm guessing it won't - another privilege of being a Mac user.) I've never touched a PC that didn't have to run some kind of ineffective, performance destroying anti-virus software.
No, it isn't "designed to work specifically with the OS."
The current Mac Pros use either Intel Xeon E5650s or E3530s. I can buy both of those processors on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use 1066MHz DDR3 or 1333MHz DDR3. I can buy both types of RAM on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use ATi Radeon HD 5870s or 5770s. I can buy both of those video cards on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use SATAII 3GB/s connections and can support up to 8TB of hard drive space across four internal bays. I can buy the same hard drives on TigerDirect for a PC and use the same capacity (I have 6TB right now and can still put two more hard drives in my computer), and even use faster connections since PCs are using SATAIII 6GB/s connections now.
The hardware is identical and universal now.
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Meh. Even so, PCs are poorly designed, notoriously unstable computers. Macs, well... are not.
That is an extremely biased opinion.
I've used, build, and repaired PCs. I've used and repaired Macs (can't build Macs because of the proprietary motherboard with the BIOS chip you can't buy from any supplier). Macs fail just as often as PCs percentage wise. By the numbers, Macs fail less...but that is because there are significantly less Macs in use than PCs. But by percentages, Macs fail just as often as PCs - be it from a hardware failure or a software failure (yes, Macs can crash and their systems do corrupt).
Yes, there are some cheap and poorly designed PCs out there. But that is because PCs are an open design with dozens, if not hundreds, of companies producing and selling PCs. Apple is a closed shop business that is the only company releasing Macs. But lumping together all the PC companies into one group and comparing that one group to a single company (Apple) is pretty ignorant. If you wanted to appear less biased, you could compare Apple to a solitary PC company (let's say Sony) for quality comparisons. But that wouldn't give you the disproportional statistics you seem to crave based on your generalization of PCs.
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Its pretty simple really. A Mac of the same quality as a PC will be at least $500 more, so if you think having a super-cool hipster computer is worth the extra cash, by all means, go for it. If you want the best computer, by a decent PC and run both Windows and Ubuntu linux.
Meh. Even so, PCs are poorly designed, notoriously unstable computers. Macs, well... are not.
Sounds like the typical Apple fanboy talk: if the facts don't match up, just go with the typical "PC's suck, Macs are better" line.
like Solaran, I use PC's. I owned a Compaq which lasted 10 years until I upgraded (it still works) to an Alienware which I purchased in 2006 and my wife still uses (with upgrades), to a PC I built myself, which runs flawlessly.
I had a Dell laptop, which a friend of mine now owns. When I replaced that laptop I took a good look at the Macbook Pro...and found an Asus laptop, with better specs, for $1000 less.
...though if we're all honest, personal experience doesn't really capture a broad enough cross section to gauge whether macs or pc's are reliable.
I'm not saying Macs aren't decent computers; they are. But there's no way in hell I'm paying $1000 more for a computer with lower specs.
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Meh. Even so, PCs are poorly designed, notoriously unstable computers. Macs, well... are not.
This isn't true these days. Maybe back before windows xp was released, yeah. All operating systems are relatively the same these days though. I've had just as much trouble with macs as PCs. The thing is, if you get anti virus and registry cleaner, you don't have to worry about anything unstable. I have kaspersky anti virus and system mechanic on my PC, and the performance does not suffer one bit. In fact, it actually improves performance.
I've had macs that have design flaws right out of the box. Don't even get me started on the beach ball of death.
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I'm not saying Macs aren't decent computers; they are. But there's no way in hell I'm paying $1000 more for a computer with lower specs.
Exactly, they're fine computers. Probably just as good as PC's in fact, but you can get an equivalent PC for $500+ less. It makes the decision pretty easy for me.
Again, what the hell does owning a Mac have to do with being a hipster?
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Haha you have to admit that owning a mac is trendy. I think the Mac Pro is overpriced, and they charge way too much for their upgrades on every line that they offer, but the base models aren't really overpriced for what you're getting. And Apple's target market only really needs the base model.
I'm considering on getting an iMac (or Mac Book). My existing laptop (non-Mac) is almost at its life's end (6 years old). I just want to get your thoughts/opinions on Macs from either existing or non-users and whether it would be worth to get a Mac or get a PC-based laptop with Windows 7 (or even Linux). As an aside, my laptop runs Windows XP.
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There is no different between a Mac and a PC, desktop or laptop, besides a trendy case and a BIOS chip.
Since Apple switched to Intel CPUs, Macs basically use identical components to PCs aside from their BIOS chip. And all the BIOS chip does is let the user load whatever version of OS X they want without any compatibility issues. Although in recent years, OS X has been put on to more and more PCs successfully as the OSx86 and Hackintosh projects refine their procedures and make the whole process easier and more user friendly to do.
So the real question that it comes down to anymore is are you willing to spend a lot more for the same hardware in a different case?
For the record, when I built my current desktop (2.2GHz Phenom 955 x4, 4GB of 800MHz DDR2 RAM, 6TB of hard drive space [4x1.5TB], 2x 1GB nVidia GTS 250s, and a normal DVD drive), it cost me $1500. Out of curiosity, I went to Apple's webpage and "customized" a Mac Pro (the only Mac desktop you can upgrade yourself without an interior decorating degree to figure out how to cram everything back into an iMac just to upgrade RAM) with specifications as close as I could (such as Intel Xeon instead of a Phenom, and a pair of nVidia 210s instead of a pair of nVidia GTS 250s) and the price came out to a bit over $6000.
Intel or Mac...the only questions you need to ask yourself about these two anymore is "how deep is my wallet?" and "do I want to be a hipster?"
I have a buddy who had a problem with a Macbook, he had to take it to an Apple store to get it fixed next day after making an appointment. If it wasn't a Mac, he could've saved himself a 40 minute trip and making an appointment to go to multiple repair centers that were closer.
If you really want to run OSX, you can get that to run on a non apple built machine and it'll save you a bundle. That's the real issue, as Solaran_X has highlighted and financial reports have confirmed: Apple has the highest margins in the computing industry, despite a very small market share. When you're buying a Mac, what you're buying is a very fancy case with special software that isn't necessarily any better than the competition, is harder to upgrade, and has a substantial markup.
I'm not saying it doesn't work - they work well - just that it's not cost effective.
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Macs are overpriced, generally. I like OSX better than Windows 7 but Windows 7 is pretty great, and it's more my preference than me actively disliking either. At the same time, windows laptops are much cheaper because there's a competitive ecosystem for them.
Linux is good but you have to know what you're getting into before you do it. Talk about OSX not having support for programs ... egh.
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Windows is generally better for business/office type things, while macs are better for the arts. However, much more applications are compatible with windows. Windows is also cheaper, but you will have to get a good anti-virus program and a registry cleaner.
Personally, I own a windows 7 laptop and an OSX imac. I prefer the way windows is set up, it is much easier for me. My laptop cost $600, and my imac cost $1800. I only use the mac for audio recording.
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Same applies to Macs.
All year so far, OS X has actually been ranked as the least secure of the big three OSes (Windows-based, OS X-based, and Linux-based) because the average Mac user buys into the whole "Macs don't get viruses" line and never get or update their anti-virus and OS. And apparently, OS X has more open back doors in it's system for exploitation than any Windows release to date.
Viruses aimed at OS X have actually been on an increase of late. This is likely due to the growing popularity of OS X because of the refinement of the Hackintosh and OSx86 projects that put OS X on to non-Mac PCs. These people are likely keeping their anti-virus up to date, but the users of true Macs aren't and as such are getting hit with viruses of late.
It's not about the hardware - it's about the operating system. Mac's is inherently more intuitive and more stable. It has nothing to do with being a hipster.
Source? I've been using them for years and years and know people who have done the same and I've never heard of anyone getting a virus or spyware on their Mac.
Edit @ OP - ask yourself this: Do you want a computer that works? If the answer is yes, shell out the extra cash for a Mac. I don't remember the last time I used a PC that felt like it even approached the level of functionality it should have. The PCs belonging to my brother, my girlfriend, my parents and the ones at school are all miserable pieces of crap and they all have (supposedly) good hardware. (Well, I can't say that's for sure with the computer lab ones.)
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And Macs are the easiest to hack. They are repeatedly the first computers to be hacked in hacking competitions like Pwn2Own, but real life viruses for OS X are far in between.
Go use one though. If you like it, buy it. Worst case scenario, you sell it for a $200 loss and you can still buy a PC. They're well made laptops, but I just don't like the OS.
Initially, OS X was a major selling point for Macs. But with the refinement of the Hackintosh and OSx86 projects, putting OS X on to a non-Mac PC is very easy and significantly cheaper than buying a Mac (since Mac and PC hardware is nearly identical now - only actually hardware difference [aside from the trendy case] is the BIOS chip).
Basically, you can pay $1800 for an iMac. Or you can pay $1000 for a PC with near identical, or better, hardware stats to the iMac and put OS X on to a hard drive partition and dual boot the system.
Since OS X can readily be put on to either a Mac or PC, it is all about how deep your pockets go and if you want to be a member of the Mac crowd.
I've found a few. Macs began getting viruses readily in 2006. Here is a 2010 article about a Mac virus and what to do if you get it.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/142097
Here's an article from 2008 about Apple discovering and patching 21 vulnerabilities that would have allowed remote access to the Mac.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2336965,00.asp
And here is the most recent virus discovered. It is, right now, mostly harmless and serves mainly as a wake up call to Mac users.
http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/beta-blackhole-rat-trojan-targes-mac-os-x-2011031/
It's kinda hard to build a macbook pro. If Apple made the 13" macbook pro with Windows natively, it would've definitely been on my list of potential computers. It's the perfect college laptop for my needs.
Or you can get a PC-based laptop with comparable/identical hardware for less money and set it up to dual boot OS X and Windows 7.
That's the typical elitist Mac user comment I expect.
Macs and PCs use identical hardware except for one chip on the motherboard. Same RAM, same CPUs, same GPUs, same hard drives, same everything except the one small BIOS chip. I can pull any component out of this current computer I have (except my CPU since an AM3 Phenom II 965 won't physically fit into a socket designed for an Intel CPU) and put it into a Mac and it will work and vice versa (once again, except for the CPUs because the sockets are physically different).
I have fixed desktop PCs. I have fixed laptop PCs. I have fixed desktop Macs. I have fixed MacBooks. (But I won't touch an iMac...that thing is too complicated inside to reassemble. Too much stuff crammed in one tiny space - I'm honestly surprised those things don't overheat and burn up.)
They all have the same failures and problems. And if you don't take care of your computer, Mac or PC, it will break on you. Just because you got a Mac doesn't mean that OEM motherboard will never develop a short or that the connections between the RAM and the socket won't tarnish and need reseated.
Just because it's a Mac and cost more than a PC doesn't make it inherently better. I've had my 18.4" Toshiba Satellite for as long as my friend has had his 13" MacBook Pro. He's had his MacBook in the shop a few times in the past two years. I've never had to do anything even once to my Toshiba.
Take the BIOS chip and case out of the equation between a Mac and a PC...and you have the exact same thing.
But the hardware on a Mac is designed to work specifically with the OS which makes for a much more stable, smoothly running system. That isn't true of a PC or of a PC made to run OSX.
As to the viruses & vulnerabilities: I'm not gonna worry about it unless it happens to me. (And I'm guessing it won't - another privilege of being a Mac user.) I've never touched a PC that didn't have to run some kind of ineffective, performance destroying anti-virus software.
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No, it isn't "designed to work specifically with the OS."
The current Mac Pros use either Intel Xeon E5650s or E3530s. I can buy both of those processors on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use 1066MHz DDR3 or 1333MHz DDR3. I can buy both types of RAM on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use ATi Radeon HD 5870s or 5770s. I can buy both of those video cards on TigerDirect for a PC.
The current Mac Pros use SATAII 3GB/s connections and can support up to 8TB of hard drive space across four internal bays. I can buy the same hard drives on TigerDirect for a PC and use the same capacity (I have 6TB right now and can still put two more hard drives in my computer), and even use faster connections since PCs are using SATAIII 6GB/s connections now.
The hardware is identical and universal now.
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That is an extremely biased opinion.
I've used, build, and repaired PCs. I've used and repaired Macs (can't build Macs because of the proprietary motherboard with the BIOS chip you can't buy from any supplier). Macs fail just as often as PCs percentage wise. By the numbers, Macs fail less...but that is because there are significantly less Macs in use than PCs. But by percentages, Macs fail just as often as PCs - be it from a hardware failure or a software failure (yes, Macs can crash and their systems do corrupt).
Yes, there are some cheap and poorly designed PCs out there. But that is because PCs are an open design with dozens, if not hundreds, of companies producing and selling PCs. Apple is a closed shop business that is the only company releasing Macs. But lumping together all the PC companies into one group and comparing that one group to a single company (Apple) is pretty ignorant. If you wanted to appear less biased, you could compare Apple to a solitary PC company (let's say Sony) for quality comparisons. But that wouldn't give you the disproportional statistics you seem to crave based on your generalization of PCs.
Sounds like the typical Apple fanboy talk: if the facts don't match up, just go with the typical "PC's suck, Macs are better" line.
like Solaran, I use PC's. I owned a Compaq which lasted 10 years until I upgraded (it still works) to an Alienware which I purchased in 2006 and my wife still uses (with upgrades), to a PC I built myself, which runs flawlessly.
I had a Dell laptop, which a friend of mine now owns. When I replaced that laptop I took a good look at the Macbook Pro...and found an Asus laptop, with better specs, for $1000 less.
...though if we're all honest, personal experience doesn't really capture a broad enough cross section to gauge whether macs or pc's are reliable.
I'm not saying Macs aren't decent computers; they are. But there's no way in hell I'm paying $1000 more for a computer with lower specs.
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This isn't true these days. Maybe back before windows xp was released, yeah. All operating systems are relatively the same these days though. I've had just as much trouble with macs as PCs. The thing is, if you get anti virus and registry cleaner, you don't have to worry about anything unstable. I have kaspersky anti virus and system mechanic on my PC, and the performance does not suffer one bit. In fact, it actually improves performance.
I've had macs that have design flaws right out of the box. Don't even get me started on the beach ball of death.
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Exactly, they're fine computers. Probably just as good as PC's in fact, but you can get an equivalent PC for $500+ less. It makes the decision pretty easy for me.
Again, what the hell does owning a Mac have to do with being a hipster?
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