KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If that reason is because Axel cares more for memeing than solving the game then I'd drowning you in a latrine.
Also, wait. Did you actually just shoot me?
My reason for woof-reading Axel is also extremely weird
The reason why is because I feel like them wanting to be helped/"hand-fed" is similar to acting all newbie as woof even when you're experienced.
I'm confused
Why is Grapefruit crossed out?
And vote: Axel
For reasoning I previously stated, and I haven't seen any other posts from them aside from those GIF posts.
I'm confused
Why is Grapefruit crossed out?
And vote: Axel
For reasoning I previously stated, and I haven't seen any other posts from them aside from those GIF posts.
The mod said
No, Grape being replaced by Indy in the above votecount doesn't mean anything gamewise, and is for (likely just my) amusement purposes only.
in the spoiler in #99, so it means nothing. Just the mod shirking his duties by having fun.
@Ignoramus: How familiar are you with this game's players? For example, you know Axelrod is experienced.
Do you have any other reads? For example on Grape who agrees that Axel is wolfy?
I'm confused
Why is Grapefruit crossed out?
And vote: Axel
For reasoning I previously stated, and I haven't seen any other posts from them aside from those GIF posts.
The mod said
No, Grape being replaced by Indy in the above votecount doesn't mean anything gamewise, and is for (likely just my) amusement purposes only.
in the spoiler in #99, so it means nothing. Just the mod shirking his duties by having fun.
@Ignoramus: How familiar are you with this game's players? For example, you know Axelrod is experienced.
Do you have any other reads? For example on Grape who agrees that Axel is wolfy?
I'm only familiar with Rhand, since they introduced me to this site.
As for Axel, the only reason why I know they're experienced is because post-count under their profile
I don't have any other reads atm except for a light town on Killjoy because gut and a light town for you as well, for a very silly reason of you reaching out to me (everyone was either offline, asleep, or doing something else - if that makes sense).
I have no read whatsoever on Grapefruit, which is pretty given we both agree Axel's wolfy
I'm only familiar with Rhand, since they introduced me to this site.
As for Axel, the only reason why I know they're experienced is because post-count under their profile
I don't have any other reads atm except for a light town on Killjoy because gut and a light town for you as well, for a very silly reason of you reaching out to me (everyone was either offline, asleep, or doing something else - if that makes sense).
I have no read whatsoever on Grapefruit, which is pretty given we both agree Axel's wolfy
I thought it might have been his postcount. Since you think Axelrod is wolfy because he's acting newbie-like, do you really think he would be doing that on purpose and expect to get away with it?
Also don't "thank" posts - it is in the rules (but also hidden). We generally don't allow it in games since you can thank and unthank posts at any point without leaving a record, and we don't like people changing the past. It's the same reason editing posts is prohibited!
As for Axel, the only reason why I know they're experienced is because post-count under their profile
Nooooot sure I'm a fan of this reasoning. The inexperience he'd be faking isn't related to game play but forum function. It very easily falls apart with one question posed. People who have played with Axel before, have they done a lot of ***** posting via memes and pictures in the past?
Oh goddamnit, who brought up Star Trek?
Don't let the nerd get started, she'll never shut up.
I just got an idea for a legacy!
@Ter: Can I get a paragraph each on the 5 best Star Trek episodes, the 5 worst Star Trek episodes, who the best Captain is, and why the Enterprise could beat the Millenium Falcon in a dogfight.
One paragraph each or they don't count.
I'm really looking forward to the last one, because it can't.
No, No, ******* KIRK obviously, and
because the Enterprise could just use transwarp capabilities to beam a torpedo directly aboard the Falcon and scatter subspace with Solo bits and singed wookie fur.
Listen here you lil *****.
The falcon can go faster than the speed of light. Can your little enterprise do that? No? You can shut up.
I'm confused
Why is Grapefruit crossed out?
And vote: Axel
For reasoning I previously stated, and I haven't seen any other posts from them aside from those GIF posts.
Hey! I don't think we've met. Could I get a brief blurb of your experience playing mafia, home site, and playstyle?
I have a tiny :eyebrow for Ignoramus for apparently making assumptions about mafia “experience” based on post count and nothing else.
That is all.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Igno's vote is bad and could come from opportunistic scum (voting Axel after he noticed Grape mentioned scum-reading him)... which would mean having enough awareness to notice the invisible voteless wagon on Axel but not enough to predict he is 100% going to raise eyebrows with the justification for his vote. Which doesn't make sense.
In simpler terms, I'm townreading Igno for his bad vote.
On the other hand Eco looks more interested in coaching him and guiding him to his van than in figuring him out. What's with the whole "you know Axel is experienced" "I looked at his post count" "that's what I thought", it smells fishy and maybe fake.
Vote: Ecophagy
Also at fluffmaster Sloth acting like breadcrumbing is the same as posting content. It's early though so it's NAI.
@ZDS I'm "coaching" a new player to get them to explain what they're thinking. If I'm using kid gloves it's because I don't want to scare the new player or put him on the defensive. My assumption is that he's pretty much a brand new player - so he'd either know Axelrod is experienced because Rhand told him or postcount (or I guess he looked up his post history). If he had just assumed Axel was experienced the read would be more suspicious, but it's at least based in an identifiable chain of logic (even if the logic is bad). I asked for additional reads to see if he'd just focussed on Axel, or was going to take the bait and town read GF and no-one else to make a consistent narrative. That he didn't (and voted in the first place), makes me think his reads are genunine.
You can figure someone out without putting them through the meat grinder
Wether I agree or disagree doesnt matter. You seem to agree that you are "coaching" him since your use the verbiage yourself. His assesment of Igno alignment makes a certain amount of sense and feel like ZDS' typically approach to reading people.
Now you answer my question. WHY assume anything when you can ask direct questions? You are basically just telling us you're approaching this with a lens of bias instead of a blank slate which taints any read your gonna get
Wether I agree or disagree doesnt matter. You seem to agree that you are "coaching" him since your use the verbiage yourself. His assesment of Igno alignment makes a certain amount of sense and feel like ZDS' typically approach to reading people.
Now you answer my question. WHY assume anything when you can ask direct questions? You are basically just telling us you're approaching this with a lens of bias instead of a blank slate which taints any read your gonna get
I was asking because my making an assumption didn't seem like the most interesting part of the exchange, and I want your opinions on alignments which you have so far been reluctant to give.
I made an assumption because pre-game Rhand said he'd found a recruit, and his first posts look newbish. If I'd seen something that challenged that assumption I'd probably have asked but I didn't. Maybe I should have asked anyway, but that's hindsight for you. If he comes back and says he actually experienced then the context of my read changes, and life will go on.
@ZDS I'm "coaching" a new player to get them to explain what they're thinking. If I'm using kid gloves it's because I don't want to scare the new player or put him on the defensive. My assumption is that he's pretty much a brand new player - so he'd either know Axelrod is experienced because Rhand told him or postcount (or I guess he looked up his post history). If he had just assumed Axel was experienced the read would be more suspicious, but it's at least based in an identifiable chain of logic (even if the logic is bad). I asked for additional reads to see if he'd just focussed on Axel, or was going to take the bait and town read GF and no-one else to make a consistent narrative. That he didn't (and voted in the first place), makes me think his reads are genunine.
I believe this was Eco's intention, regardless of what his alignment ends up being.
Btw Grape what gives?
Vote Jackrito
For now.
I hadn't realized this had started
My reason for woof-reading Axel is also extremely weird
The reason why is because I feel like them wanting to be helped/"hand-fed" is similar to acting all newbie as woof even when you're experienced.
Why is Grapefruit crossed out?
And vote: Axel
For reasoning I previously stated, and I haven't seen any other posts from them aside from those GIF posts.
The mod said in the spoiler in #99, so it means nothing. Just the mod shirking his duties by having fun.
@Ignoramus: How familiar are you with this game's players? For example, you know Axelrod is experienced.
Do you have any other reads? For example on Grape who agrees that Axel is wolfy?
I'm only familiar with Rhand, since they introduced me to this site.
As for Axel, the only reason why I know they're experienced is because post-count under their profile
I don't have any other reads atm except for a light town on Killjoy because gut and a light town for you as well, for a very silly reason of you reaching out to me (everyone was either offline, asleep, or doing something else - if that makes sense).
I have no read whatsoever on Grapefruit, which is pretty given we both agree Axel's wolfy
I thought it might have been his postcount. Since you think Axelrod is wolfy because he's acting newbie-like, do you really think he would be doing that on purpose and expect to get away with it?
Also don't "thank" posts - it is in the rules (but also hidden). We generally don't allow it in games since you can thank and unthank posts at any point without leaving a record, and we don't like people changing the past. It's the same reason editing posts is prohibited!
Nooooot sure I'm a fan of this reasoning. The inexperience he'd be faking isn't related to game play but forum function. It very easily falls apart with one question posed. People who have played with Axel before, have they done a lot of ***** posting via memes and pictures in the past?
I take offense to this statement this game specially, given how thoroughly I crumbed my role in page 1 alone lol.
This time.
Cause if flavor....its not crumbing when you just drop a bread roll on the floor and yell at everyone to LOOK AT IT
I pronounce it even differently, but the g sound from my language doesn’t exist in English so I can’t give examples
The falcon can go faster than the speed of light. Can your little enterprise do that? No? You can shut up.
Just because.
That's literally what the warp drive does you infant.
...Oh goddamnit now I'm doing it.
For *****s and giggles or reasons?
Pocket accepted lol
I don't really get good vibes from ignoramus, but new player keep an eye out etc.
Ter seems pretty relaxed?
Unvote, vote Sloth
I'm going to leave this here and watch him squirm.
The Flemish g is a bit softer than the Dutch one.
Won’t bother you though because when you’re around this cat only purrs. With our rolling rrrr.
so eh where is ZDS? We need the French guy in here to come and end RVS.
Yes.
Do you think Jackrito has done anything voteworthy?
I have a tiny :eyebrow for Ignoramus for apparently making assumptions about mafia “experience” based on post count and nothing else.
That is all.
I don't think anything. Decided to let the mafia universe at large send the answers my way. Thinking gets me in trouble
...
Nah. It is not yet time.
But are you scum? Eh.
In simpler terms, I'm townreading Igno for his bad vote.
On the other hand Eco looks more interested in coaching him
and guiding him to his vanthan in figuring him out. What's with the whole "you know Axel is experienced" "I looked at his post count" "that's what I thought", it smells fishy and maybe fake.Vote: Ecophagy
Also at fluffmaster Sloth acting like breadcrumbing is the same as posting content. It's early though so it's NAI.
No, from their takes on Axel (and on each other's takes).
It's even worse if he crumbed his role.
You can figure someone out without putting them through the meat grinder
Why assume things though? Ask him if he is. It's not putting someone through the grinder to go "hey dude you ever play this game before?"
Speaking of @igno hey dude you ever play this game before???
Do you agree with ZDS' assessment of how I intereacted with Ignoramus? What do you think about his assessment of Ignoramus' vote/alignment?
Now you answer my question. WHY assume anything when you can ask direct questions? You are basically just telling us you're approaching this with a lens of bias instead of a blank slate which taints any read your gonna get
I was asking because my making an assumption didn't seem like the most interesting part of the exchange, and I want your opinions on alignments which you have so far been reluctant to give.
I made an assumption because pre-game Rhand said he'd found a recruit, and his first posts look newbish. If I'd seen something that challenged that assumption I'd probably have asked but I didn't. Maybe I should have asked anyway, but that's hindsight for you. If he comes back and says he actually experienced then the context of my read changes, and life will go on.
I don’t know how much experience they have, but that game wasn’t their first either.
@Terraine: Is making a wrong assumption alignment-telling?
@ZDS: Is mafia coaching town a thing?