Sure you do. If it's dumb. Also, you might note that my expressing a belief/disbelief has precisely no effect on said gambit, if that's what it was.
But you didn't say it was dumb...you said you didn't understand it basically drawing attention to something you didn't get, made no attempt to get but declared him town anyway.
If you think something is a bad idea speak up...you hemmed and hawed in a way that wasn't town trying to discourage a town read from making a bad play or town trying not point out a possible gambit being made by another town player. It was self serving to draw attention to it.
Btw, @Ter: Walk me through your progression on Rhand start to finish please.
Also, why did you never talk about what was off with 275/6 yesterDay? It's also really not as big a deal as you're making it.
On Rhand; wasn't a fan of hiw he down played his reads. Quite a lot of hedgy behaviors and reluctance to play the game...acting as if there was no content midway through d1. Dragged his feet when asked to pull content by ya know....playing. His "WAGON ME! ...Wait no not like that..." was another point of contention. When he did start being active it was throwing out questions that appear to be doubtcasting and scum hunting...but if he was actually reading the game he'd have seen his answers ("Would scum!Eco turn on someone who townreads him to save his own arse? It’s weird." when Eco was giving a NonOMGUS read list as requested by Goo)
And yea..probably not a great reason as eco pointed out but Rhand play was lackluster D1...Either he was scum or useless Town and and if we're going to have a info misyeet I'd rather it be someone who Town isn't getting anything out of anyway.
I didn't talk about it because Goo is in my Town pile. Either his cop claim was full of ***** and had a plan in the works...or his claim was legit. If its the former I can't think of a worse thing to do than **** it all up by going "HEY LOOK AT THE UNTOWN THING AXEL DID THAT I COULD EASILY POINT OUT AFTER GOO FINISHES HIS PLAY."
1. Some GD reads from you Sloth. Also the reasoning behind the original Rhand vote you were so tight lipped about.
Why.
...why would I want to hear from you? when you coasted through D1 on silence/fluff? When your seemingly random pick you refused to expound on flipped scum?
New line of topic. Ya'll can't shut up for an hour and the second I come back everyone's silent.
Also the more roles I'm seeing the more I'm outright annoyed at mine.
KJ, why are you bothering to ask Sloth to build his Rhand case exactly at this point when I literally prodded him to do so twice on the page and got a smart ass non answer. It almost feels like you're just throwing questions out for the sake of it
New line of topic. Ya'll can't shut up for an hour and the second I come back everyone's silent.
Also the more roles I'm seeing the more I'm outright annoyed at mine.
KJ, why are you bothering to ask Sloth to build his Rhand case exactly at this point when I literally prodded him to do so twice on the page and got a smart ass non answer. It almost feels like you're just throwing questions out for the sake of it
If he didn't answer the question, why wouldn't I ask him?
What's your read on Sloth?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Btw, @Ter: Walk me through your progression on Rhand start to finish please.
Also, why did you never talk about what was off with 275/6 yesterDay? It's also really not as big a deal as you're making it.
On Rhand; wasn't a fan of hiw he down played his reads. Quite a lot of hedgy behaviors and reluctance to play the game...acting as if there was no content midway through d1. Dragged his feet when asked to pull content by ya know....playing. His "WAGON ME! ...Wait no not like that..." was another point of contention. When he did start being active it was throwing out questions that appear to be doubtcasting and scum hunting...but if he was actually reading the game he'd have seen his answers ("Would scum!Eco turn on someone who townreads him to save his own arse? It’s weird." when Eco was giving a NonOMGUS read list as requested by Goo)
And yea..probably not a great reason as eco pointed out but Rhand play was lackluster D1...Either he was scum or useless Town and and if we're going to have a info misyeet I'd rather it be someone who Town isn't getting anything out of anyway.
I didn't talk about it because Goo is in my Town pile. Either his cop claim was full of ***** and had a plan in the works...or his claim was legit. If its the former I can't think of a worse thing to do than **** it all up by going "HEY LOOK AT THE UNTOWN THING AXEL DID THAT I COULD EASILY POINT OUT AFTER GOO FINISHES HIS PLAY."
Hm. I'm actually not sure what the drawbacks of pointing it out before eoD1 are that you seem to think of, but.
1. Some GD reads from you Sloth. Also the reasoning behind the original Rhand vote you were so tight lipped about.
Why.
...why would I want to hear from you? when you coasted through D1 on silence/fluff? When your seemingly random pick you refused to expound on flipped scum?
KJ, why are you bothering to ask Sloth to build his Rhand case exactly at this point when I literally prodded him to do so twice on the page and got a smart ass non answer. It almost feels like you're just throwing questions out for the sake of it
Because he's caught and trying to play it off by being overtly reasonable and trying to find something to flip on me, hence all the ignoring I'm doing towards him.
Also he's failing at it too, that agreeance towards Vaimes a page ago was super desperate.
I cannot believe we have a red check on a player by a nearly 100% spewed clear other player, and I'm the only one voting on them. And it's not even the player I wanted to yeet coming into toDay.
Believe it or not being super condescending even when you're right doesn't endear people to want to go alone with your play.
...Put. Upon. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Fine. For you.
How did I know Rhand was scum?
I saw something others didn't. End of story.
Why did I not explain it yesterday?
Rhand tries not to be but he's a emotional player that uses logic to fight back. By not giving him anything to disarm, he was flustered and was defenseless against his own paranoia, which resulted in him slipping more and more as the Day went along and probably had a bigger impact in his yeet than anything else that happened this game.
None of you can deny that that's simply Rhand. He's formidable if the game is played on his rules only.
Why am I not explaining now?
Simple - until Rhand actually notices what went wrong, this is a Tell I can use in future games. He's a slippery player as is, and I know he eventually will (and probably get back at me something fierce then), but until then, I'm perfectly happy to maintain my advantage.
Why doesn't it matter this game and it's pointless to keep asking:
You, the town, don't need to know how I caught him now that he's flipped, because he is dead and scum.
All you need from me is to prove that I am town. I prove that I am town by capturing you more scum /points to KJ.
If anyone actually wants to bring up the ridiculous theory that rhand and I are scum and that I kept what I could have easily called an early RVS vote on him ALL DAY and only continued doubling-down on my belief and got my partner yote without a single inkling to save him, I invite you to share with the class.
If anyone actually thinks I of all people am not perfectly capable of coming up with a bull***** and completely believable reasoning for why I suspected Rhand during D1 or even after having had 48 free hours to make one up before D2, I...will honestly be stunned at the...capacity(?) to do so.
What you need to know is I'm town. Nothing else. What move have I made that makes sense as scum?
Let's call a spade a spade.
Also let's yeet HR already.
That's my point though...it's weird that you're asking it again instead of pressing him about his refusal to answer.
You're not asking him "Sloth why are you not addressing your Rhand scum read on d1 despite someone asking you about it twice in one page?"
You're asking it like someone who is not paying attention to the game enough to realize it's been asked and shot down.
I feel like you just keep throwing out the same question over and over with different names in the slots
"Player A walk me through your read on player B/Player A what's your read on player B?" or some variant there of.
I'm asking it like his read on Rhand became relevant since it was last asked.
I have done that a few times. Which of those do you find superfluous and irrelevent and why?
Why aren't YOU pressing him, given you asked him twice and got shot down?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
It's ridiculous to expect a cop to out themselves D1 to counterclaim someone else, especially if they may be thinking Goo is town trying to draw the kill. If they think he's scum, they'd probably be looking to form a case and trap Goo.
In that situation you out after you get valuable information so your inevitable death is not felt too badly by the surviving players. So really, never happens D1.
Why?
This makes absolutely no sense at all. What's the sense in being a cop if you know someone is mafia and do not tell anyone? That defeats the whole purpose in being a cop in the first place! Especially day one, when you know there's going to be some protection role, and a killing of a mafia will not only net the town the death of a mafia day 1 - which is huge - but also townclears both you and whoever you inspect that night (unless of course that person ends up being another mafia, in which case you are balling out of control).
There is absolutely no reason not to counterclaim day one.
Especially since, if this is a bit, then Goo shows no sign of stopping it, so it seems like he's pretty serious about claiming inspector.
In the world where you're town: Dude, we just started. Don't get so closed off already, that's how we lose games.
You say this, and then right afterward, you go from, “I dunno if I think Highroller is scum,” and then immediately go to “Highroller is scum!”
Highroller might be scum for jumping on Jack with me and last minute voting Rhand like he did. Also. following an ISO, he had Rhand at Bronze but never really pushed him at all.
I didn't push Rhand because there were already 5 votes on him. I didn’t add my vote to him because he was already at L-2, so I voted Jackrito while I was waiting for Rhand to roleclaim. As for why I voted Jackrito, the answer to that is because the wagon against TerRaine wasn't going anywhere, and pragmatism is a thing.
As for doubting the Rhandwagon, I stand by that. I didn't - and still don't - believe that so many people so quickly jumped from Ecophagy to Rhand is totally fine, nothing to look into. If you think that everyone who suddenly flipped from Ecophagy to Rhand on a dime like that is town, then you're out of your mind.
I understand it looks bad, I knew I was going to take flak for this, but the fact is I doubted myself. I had 4 mafia reads: TerRaine at gold, Jackrito at silver, Rhand and Axelrod at bronze. I knew one of them couldn't be mafia, and frankly, my accuracy count over the last two games has been pretty abysmal. So when I saw the tide instantly switch like that, I thought, "Oh crap, what if I'm completely wrong and Rhand is town? Am I ******* up?"
Turns out the answer was yes, I was ******* up, just in the wrong direction.
Axel: Two vigs is possible given the Rhand flip maybe. I'd usually say it's too swingy in such a low power game (presumably) but idk, the scum had a protective ability which could hint at a second vig.
Sloth: If you're not gonna engage me in conversation and just lob accusations my way, I'm just gonna ignore you.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@Highroller: Pretend it's ET the video game and let your guilt fade.
Also that might be a scum role in this setup with a BG and a vig already outed. You're basically a mirror of Eco's role, and the strongman bit is a bit too much for town to have I think.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
It's ridiculous to expect a cop to out themselves D1 to counterclaim someone else, especially if they may be thinking Goo is town trying to draw the kill. If they think he's scum, they'd probably be looking to form a case and trap Goo.
In that situation you out after you get valuable information so your inevitable death is not felt too badly by the surviving players. So really, never happens D1.
Why?
This makes absolutely no sense at all. What's the sense in being a cop if you know someone is mafia and do not tell anyone? That defeats the whole purpose in being a cop in the first place! Especially day one, when you know there's going to be some protection role, and a killing of a mafia will not only net the town the death of a mafia day 1 - which is huge - but also townclears both you and whoever you inspect that night (unless of course that person ends up being another mafia, in which case you are balling out of control).
There is absolutely no reason not to counterclaim day one.
Especially since, if this is a bit, then Goo shows no sign of stopping it, so it seems like he's pretty serious about claiming inspector.
This became irrelevant given recent events.
All I'll say is that this is basic stuff, strategy wise.
And this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but let's just speed-yeet these next two days. I don't care for any arguments against it: If we kill those two and the game is not over, then we take our time.
Otherwise we're just sitting around, slowly ******* dying.
So can we please not?
[quote from="TerRaine »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/820307-feelgood-80s-movie-mafia-day-2-aces-and-aliens?comment=813"]...Put. Upon. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Fine. For you.
Dude...It's not that you wouldn't answer. Its the "duh"/"FiNaLY dAWNed On YoU huH?" stuff. It is not fun to play with.
You're right. A game play where you as scum RVS your partner and then just...don't move it and sit on your hands as he gets yeeted isn't likely. I am not a fan though of yeeting players without giving the bare minimum courtesy of letting them say something.
I have done that a few times. Which of those do you find superfluous and irrelevent and why?
Why aren't YOU pressing him, given you asked him twice and got shot down?
I feel like you're just...not reading. You lock onto things directed only at you and react defensively. They're all pretty superfluous. You can easily see my read of Eco at EOD if you look at my post history. D2 these are't scum hunting questions. They're space fillers
Dude...It's not that you wouldn't answer. Its the "duh"/"FiNaLY dAWNed On YoU huH?" stuff. It is not fun to play with.
You're right. A game play where you as scum RVS your partner and then just...don't move it and sit on your hands as he gets yeeted isn't likely. I am not a fan though of yeeting players without giving the bare minimum courtesy of letting them say something.
In fairness, the duh was more towards KJ, but probably more mean than teasing either way, so sorry.
The "finally dawned on you" was actually straight-faced. I just assumed you figured out why I wasn't saying it. I honestly don't find anything of what I explained in #814 to not be immediately apparent. Though, again, that might just be my thought process, which is not the same as others'.
...yet.
That last sentence is re:HR?
Thoughts on his comeback post?
(also asked you about Eco.)
Sloth, you sound like someone who walked into a movie theater and is complaining because they're not allowed to have a loud conversation on their phone.
This forum is specifically for slow-paced games. You made your point, now go partake in one of your other hobbies while you wait.
...Oh. Maybe HR is 3rder and the game is not boring!
I mean. He should still be the yeet toDay. But tentative yay!
That would be funny, actually. Although if he's neutral then I doubt we have a scumteam of three with a serial killer, because town loses control of the vote way too early.
Sloth, you sound like someone who walked into a movie theater and is complaining because they're not allowed to have a loud conversation on their phone.
This forum is specifically for slow-paced games. You made your point, now go partake in one of your other hobbies while you wait.
I know I'm being annoying, but I actually am a bit frustrated at the idea of waiting 2 weeks for a no-brainer, especially after I can actually pay attention.
Point taken though. I'm around if anyone has any questions.
In fairness, the duh was more towards KJ, but probably more mean than teasing either way, so sorry.
The "finally dawned on you" was actually straight-faced. I just assumed you figured out why I wasn't saying it. I honestly don't find anything of what I explained in #814 to not be immediately apparent. Though, again, that might just be my thought process, which is not the same as others'.
...yet.
Sigh. Fair enough. Short tempered today so sorry if I'm being too sensitive.
Ter: I do tend to lock onto things directed at me, that's true.
But I still don't see the problem with asking questions I want the answer to even if they were asked before.
I did read your initial post just after Day start, but I was in the middle of a big post so I didn't do much insofar as reading closely, then I forgot about it. Sorry.
Also my question about your Eco read wasn't superfluous, just lazy. I didn't feel like looking it up.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
...Oh. Maybe HR is 3rder and the game is not boring!
I mean. He should still be the yeet toDay. But tentative yay!
That would be funny, actually. Although if he's neutral then I doubt we have a scumteam of three with a serial killer, because town loses control of the vote way too early.
8v3v1
+ Musky Choice + NK + SK
5v3v1
+ Musky Choice + NK + SK
2v3v1
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Also my question about your Eco read wasn't superfluous, just lazy. I didn't feel like looking it up.
Also why are you being "lazy" when looking into someone you say is weakly scummy? If you think someone is leaning scummy why would you want them to do the work for you?
Also my question about your Eco read wasn't superfluous, just lazy. I didn't feel like looking it up.
Also why are you being "lazy" when looking into someone you say is weakly scummy? If you think someone is leaning scummy why would you want them to do the work for you?
IDK how many big posts you make in Mafia but... they're exhausting.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
But you didn't say it was dumb...you said you didn't understand it basically drawing attention to something you didn't get, made no attempt to get but declared him town anyway.
If you think something is a bad idea speak up...you hemmed and hawed in a way that wasn't town trying to discourage a town read from making a bad play or town trying not point out a possible gambit being made by another town player. It was self serving to draw attention to it.
On Rhand; wasn't a fan of hiw he down played his reads. Quite a lot of hedgy behaviors and reluctance to play the game...acting as if there was no content midway through d1. Dragged his feet when asked to pull content by ya know....playing. His "WAGON ME! ...Wait no not like that..." was another point of contention. When he did start being active it was throwing out questions that appear to be doubtcasting and scum hunting...but if he was actually reading the game he'd have seen his answers ("Would scum!Eco turn on someone who townreads him to save his own arse? It’s weird." when Eco was giving a NonOMGUS read list as requested by Goo)
And yea..probably not a great reason as eco pointed out but Rhand play was lackluster D1...Either he was scum or useless Town and and if we're going to have a info misyeet I'd rather it be someone who Town isn't getting anything out of anyway.
I didn't talk about it because Goo is in my Town pile. Either his cop claim was full of ***** and had a plan in the works...or his claim was legit. If its the former I can't think of a worse thing to do than **** it all up by going "HEY LOOK AT THE UNTOWN THING AXEL DID THAT I COULD EASILY POINT OUT AFTER GOO FINISHES HIS PLAY."
Ya know what? I don't give care. I really don't. Do what ya want.
Also the more roles I'm seeing the more I'm outright annoyed at mine.
KJ, why are you bothering to ask Sloth to build his Rhand case exactly at this point when I literally prodded him to do so twice on the page and got a smart ass non answer. It almost feels like you're just throwing questions out for the sake of it
What's your read on Sloth?
You're not asking him "Sloth why are you not addressing your Rhand scum read on d1 despite someone asking you about it twice in one page?"
You're asking it like someone who is not paying attention to the game enough to realize it's been asked and shot down.
I feel like you just keep throwing out the same question over and over with different names in the slots
"Player A walk me through your read on player B/Player A what's your read on player B?" or some variant there of.
Finally dawned on you, huh?
Also he's failing at it too, that agreeance towards Vaimes a page ago was super desperate.
Duh.
I don't see the point in engaging with you.
Yes, that's a thing.
I cannot believe we have a red check on a player by a nearly 100% spewed clear other player, and I'm the only one voting on them. And it's not even the player I wanted to yeet coming into toDay.
Why? It's not as if he's at L-2.
Fine. For you.
How did I know Rhand was scum?
I saw something others didn't. End of story.
Why did I not explain it yesterday?
Rhand tries not to be but he's a emotional player that uses logic to fight back. By not giving him anything to disarm, he was flustered and was defenseless against his own paranoia, which resulted in him slipping more and more as the Day went along and probably had a bigger impact in his yeet than anything else that happened this game.
None of you can deny that that's simply Rhand. He's formidable if the game is played on his rules only.
Why am I not explaining now?
Simple - until Rhand actually notices what went wrong, this is a Tell I can use in future games. He's a slippery player as is, and I know he eventually will (and probably get back at me something fierce then), but until then, I'm perfectly happy to maintain my advantage.
Why doesn't it matter this game and it's pointless to keep asking:
You, the town, don't need to know how I caught him now that he's flipped, because he is dead and scum.
All you need from me is to prove that I am town. I prove that I am town by capturing you more scum /points to KJ.
If anyone actually wants to bring up the ridiculous theory that rhand and I are scum and that I kept what I could have easily called an early RVS vote on him ALL DAY and only continued doubling-down on my belief and got my partner yote without a single inkling to save him, I invite you to share with the class.
If anyone actually thinks I of all people am not perfectly capable of coming up with a bull***** and completely believable reasoning for why I suspected Rhand during D1 or even after having had 48 free hours to make one up before D2, I...will honestly be stunned at the...capacity(?) to do so.
What you need to know is I'm town. Nothing else. What move have I made that makes sense as scum?
Let's call a spade a spade.
Also let's yeet HR already.
I have done that a few times. Which of those do you find superfluous and irrelevent and why?
Why aren't YOU pressing him, given you asked him twice and got shot down?
So... I know this is not going to do me any favors, but I killed E.T. I'm very sorry. I swear I'm not mafia.
Why?
This makes absolutely no sense at all. What's the sense in being a cop if you know someone is mafia and do not tell anyone? That defeats the whole purpose in being a cop in the first place! Especially day one, when you know there's going to be some protection role, and a killing of a mafia will not only net the town the death of a mafia day 1 - which is huge - but also townclears both you and whoever you inspect that night (unless of course that person ends up being another mafia, in which case you are balling out of control).
There is absolutely no reason not to counterclaim day one.
Especially since, if this is a bit, then Goo shows no sign of stopping it, so it seems like he's pretty serious about claiming inspector.
You say this, and then right afterward, you go from, “I dunno if I think Highroller is scum,” and then immediately go to “Highroller is scum!”
I didn't push Rhand because there were already 5 votes on him. I didn’t add my vote to him because he was already at L-2, so I voted Jackrito while I was waiting for Rhand to roleclaim. As for why I voted Jackrito, the answer to that is because the wagon against TerRaine wasn't going anywhere, and pragmatism is a thing.
As for doubting the Rhandwagon, I stand by that. I didn't - and still don't - believe that so many people so quickly jumped from Ecophagy to Rhand is totally fine, nothing to look into. If you think that everyone who suddenly flipped from Ecophagy to Rhand on a dime like that is town, then you're out of your mind.
I understand it looks bad, I knew I was going to take flak for this, but the fact is I doubted myself. I had 4 mafia reads: TerRaine at gold, Jackrito at silver, Rhand and Axelrod at bronze. I knew one of them couldn't be mafia, and frankly, my accuracy count over the last two games has been pretty abysmal. So when I saw the tide instantly switch like that, I thought, "Oh crap, what if I'm completely wrong and Rhand is town? Am I ******* up?"
Turns out the answer was yes, I was ******* up, just in the wrong direction.
I’m really confused here. Are you claiming an actual cop check?
Actually, E.T. kill was me.
I'm the strongman vigilante. I have a one-shot nightkill that cannot be prevented, roleblocked, or redirected.
Sloth: If you're not gonna engage me in conversation and just lob accusations my way, I'm just gonna ignore you.
(Still love you when you're not filthy scum )
(actually even when you are, a little...)
Also that might be a scum role in this setup with a BG and a vig already outed. You're basically a mirror of Eco's role, and the strongman bit is a bit too much for town to have I think.
All I'll say is that this is basic stuff, strategy wise.
By "immediately" do you mean right after spewed!cop claimed a red check on you?
Why did you use your kill N1? And why did you choose Igno as your target?
Noting your noting.
Dude...It's not that you wouldn't answer. Its the "duh"/"FiNaLY dAWNed On YoU huH?" stuff. It is not fun to play with.
You're right. A game play where you as scum RVS your partner and then just...don't move it and sit on your hands as he gets yeeted isn't likely. I am not a fan though of yeeting players without giving the bare minimum courtesy of letting them say something.
...the last times it was asked was the first post of D2 and then again right before your first post.
You're not reading the game if you missed that.
I feel like you're just...not reading. You lock onto things directed only at you and react defensively. They're all pretty superfluous. You can easily see my read of Eco at EOD if you look at my post history. D2 these are't scum hunting questions. They're space fillers
Even though this is role-madness, I don't know why you think anyone would believe there are two town vigilantes in a mini.
The "finally dawned on you" was actually straight-faced. I just assumed you figured out why I wasn't saying it. I honestly don't find anything of what I explained in #814 to not be immediately apparent. Though, again, that might just be my thought process, which is not the same as others'.
...yet.
That last sentence is re:HR?
Thoughts on his comeback post?
(also asked you about Eco.)
I mean. He should still be the yeet toDay. But tentative yay!
This forum is specifically for slow-paced games. You made your point, now go partake in one of your other hobbies while you wait.
....So your scum reads were Me, Jack, Rhand, and Axel.
You were proven right on your 3rd choice.
...So you shot at someone not even mentioned on your list?
Point taken though. I'm around if anyone has any questions.
Sigh. Fair enough. Short tempered today so sorry if I'm being too sensitive.
yes. Answered already. And you will get the same response KJ got. Go look at my posts. You're the one who's bored so you can do the legwork
But I still don't see the problem with asking questions I want the answer to even if they were asked before.
I did read your initial post just after Day start, but I was in the middle of a big post so I didn't do much insofar as reading closely, then I forgot about it. Sorry.
Also my question about your Eco read wasn't superfluous, just lazy. I didn't feel like looking it up.
+ Musky Choice + NK + SK
5v3v1
+ Musky Choice + NK + SK
2v3v1
...yeah I guess.
I play too much Among Us.
Also why are you being "lazy" when looking into someone you say is weakly scummy? If you think someone is leaning scummy why would you want them to do the work for you?
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