For calling out the whole "one of these 4 RVS votes belongs to scum", which I disagree with.
(I'm not making any statements about the alignment of those 3 other people, I just don't believe in these number magic tricks)
Agree to disagree and all that jazz, but you're saying that you find the actual content and tone of that response townie?
(Beyond the simple statement of number magic being wrong.)
@Sloth ne'er mind. 'tis th' game where he got wrongly town cleared wit' his PR, I remember now.
He was upset wit' th' setup iirc, that ain't a comparable situation
We might be remembering things differently, but I do believe he was immediately getting frustrated when the heat turned to him.
Granted, he wasn't happy with the setup but I don't believe getting caught had zero effect on him given how quickly things devolved after that. Still, subjective - so whatev.
Like I asked, can you solidify the read further or is the frustration it?
REally don't like Wisp's vote followed by an immediate hedge. Usually you want to give at least an hour before you hedge on someone. Reads weakly.
I want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly: If he had waited over an hour to comment on Rhand possibly pocketing you, you would find that townier?
I clearly forgot my /s
It was a comment that Wisp's vote looks pretty wolfy. Usually when you vote someone, you don't immediately hedge on them being town and pocketed. It just doesn't look like he objectively trying to read me, it looks like he is trying to justify seeing in anything takes off, while having room to move off. It looks to me like a hedge, with him trying to have room to move to Rhand if that takes off.
As far as my salt goes, nah. I used to get really angry because I have to make every post a dissertation, and have half the wolf team figured out by page 3, or people think I am not solving. I don't know why I am held to such an absurd standard, but it is what it is.
how do you feel that his posts have conformed to your expectations of his town game so far
are there any things you look for in particular when evaluating his alignment down the road
give me all your birds
Happens every game, so I don't find it odd or anything.
I mostly just have a mental checklist of things town!KJ does and as long as he stays within the confines of that list, I have no issues. I don't think he's ever rolled scum here, but he gets suspected all the time anyways.
The biggest thing is that he asks a ton of questions and most of the time it looks like scummy busywork.
For calling out the whole "one of these 4 RVS votes belongs to scum", which I disagree with.
(I'm not making any statements about the alignment of those 3 other people, I just don't believe in these number magic tricks)
Agree to disagree and all that jazz, but you're saying that you find the actual content and tone of that response townie?
(Beyond the simple statement of number magic being wrong.)
There's a quite a difference between me liking a single post and me actively thinking someone is town
No, I'm not actually townreading CC. I just liked that one post for reasons I mentioned earlier.
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I can hedge on whatever I want, it hasn't even been 24 hours, unless u want me to lock onto you being a wolf and never rescend, but ya I do understand the read, just not now, later on, it might be more telling of someone
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As far as my salt goes, nah. I used to get really angry because I have to make every post a dissertation, and have half the wolf team figured out by page 3, or people think I am not solving. I don't know why I am held to such an absurd standard, but it is what it is.
I am not holding you to any standard lol, is anyone? or did I miss something? my read on you is purely tonal, I don't think I have read more than 5 or so of your posts lol
Happens every game, so I don't find it odd or anything.
I mostly just have a mental checklist of things town!KJ does and as long as he stays within the confines of that list, I have no issues. I don't think he's ever rolled scum here, but he gets suspected all the time anyways.
The biggest thing is that he asks a ton of questions and most of the time it looks like scummy busywork.
I think you and Rhand are independently scummy @GJ
him calling you town can be something he believes, but I don't think that specific frustration means anything, if anythings its easily used as a false argument to pressure someone, which I am not saying it is being done here, but who knows.
I can hedge on whatever I want, it hasn't even been 24 hours, unless u want me to lock onto you being a wolf and never rescend, but ya I do understand the read, just not now, later on, it might be more telling of someone
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As far as my salt goes, nah. I used to get really angry because I have to make every post a dissertation, and have half the wolf team figured out by page 3, or people think I am not solving. I don't know why I am held to such an absurd standard, but it is what it is.
I am not holding you to any standard lol, is anyone? or did I miss something? my read on you is purely tonal, I don't think I have read more than 5 or so of your posts lol
@Rhand
have fun with that
I don't expect you to lock in your trap for the remainder of the game, but I also don't expect in the same breathe to push someone, and the verbally make a comment that this person is town, if Rhand is a wolf. Reads like you are worried about how you look, and if/when you move.
And you have never struck me as that style of player.
@Sloth: I wasn't even remotely frustrated until post game, so I don't know why you would use Matters as an example for me to be frustrated as a wolf.
I can hedge on whatever I want, it hasn't even been 24 hours, unless u want me to lock onto you being a wolf and never rescend, but ya I do understand the read, just not now, later on, it might be more telling of someone
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As far as my salt goes, nah. I used to get really angry because I have to make every post a dissertation, and have half the wolf team figured out by page 3, or people think I am not solving. I don't know why I am held to such an absurd standard, but it is what it is.
I am not holding you to any standard lol, is anyone? or did I miss something? my read on you is purely tonal, I don't think I have read more than 5 or so of your posts lol
@Rhand
have fun with that
To sloth, apparently I am not solving enough. Wouldn't even be miffed if he said my solving came off as fake. But to say I am not attempting to solve just makes me furious.
Except now. Because I wear the mask of calmness. There is no anger here.
I want to call Vaimes town for the gusto and activity. (I know that's not a good way to read him anymore really, so yes I know but I still want to town lean him early for it. Little part of me is like is he informed I'm town or something or is he just having fun having fun?)
I want Cuth to be town because I want him to be town. Besides he said he thinks I'm town so he's obviously town. I might have some questions or thoughts regarding the Cantrip stuff and post after Cantrip responds.
KJ feels comfortable actually and I liked that dream post response. If it's true that he's never drawn scum here before, I'd kinda expect a bit more cautious feeling, more along the lines of that opening post that I thought was cautious. I don't mind him not moving the game forward by page two whether by actively not doing it or just not doing it. I think it's only really alignment indicative if he's normally an early game pusher and here he's just not.
I'm totally going to fence sit on GJ right now. I didn't really like him pushing KJ for not pushing the game forward so early because that felt like an easy thing to push and not for really great reasons. HOWEVER, there's a reason I don't do much scum hunting in the early game and that's because I have a really hard time telling the difference between town pushing minor things to get the game started or form early impressions and scum trying to look like they're doing something useful. To me calling KJ wolfy for not seeing anything to push early feels like scum trying to look like they're getting to work early and the push feels weak. I thought the "frustration" over Rhand's roleplaying felt a little bit fake but then I feel like an ass for thinking it sounds fake because it could totally be real.
BUT I don't get the argument against him for saying that he hoped that wisp had forgotten how to read him rather than him being a wolf. The push that that feels off feels really wrong. It made perfect sense to me that he would prefer someone have forgotten how to read him over him being a wolf because arms races are a thing. Having someone who reads you well stop being able to read you well means that next time you're scum against them you're in a better position. And if you like playing with someone, you typically like your friends to be the same alignment as you unless you're just a weirdo freak :P. Also liked the annoyance at expectations for solving the game early relatable. Well these reasons I like of him are partially because yeah i can just relate here and who knows and probably too early to be spending this much time thinking about GJ. (Also if at any point, Good Job! is where Gentleman Johnny should be, it's just because of the macros I have set up for feedback lol)
This is not really a reads list, (I don't do those traditional lists anyway, just some thoughts here and there. I have some other thoughts that I'm just gonna sit on for a bit.
how I look? it literally hasn't even been one day? When do "I" ever care about how I look?
and there is no trap
I am looking at posts when I can, you look bad, and I think Rhand also looks independently bad, which given how decent he probably is, it could be any arrangement of t/t, t/w, w/t, w/w, either way I don't care right now, those are just my thoughts, which I will say no matter what lol
Tammy questioning the town read on her is a relatively good look
@Vaimes: My core of hunting as town is basically boiled down to one fundamental question: Is this person trying to solve the game? Yes, they are town. No, they are wolf. I'll snag the occasional townie, but honestly, townies that aren't solving should be lynched more. Or get better at faking it, or I don't know. KJ's posts bother me because he will ask questions, and then do nothing with them. I also think he doesn't try to get people to follow him, and in particular, his response to me about no one doing anything just reads disdainfully.
He has half the team defending him from even questioning, so I don't really see a point in continuing. But I just roll my eyes and move on.
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
I'm confused now. Aren't you the one who talks about meta and supposedly are a good reader of GJ? Wouldn't you know his vote tendencies? Would you expect for him to be voting at this point and it's suspicious that he's not? And if, so why this response.
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
are we talking by mafia or town? I think a mafia kill in town!killjoy worlds could happen because of how we treat him, or a loose-cannon town might yeet him.
I'm confused now. Aren't you the one who talks about meta and supposedly are a good reader of GJ? Wouldn't you know his vote tendencies? Would you expect for him to be voting at this point and it's suspicious that he's not? And if, so why this response.
I never really paid attention to his voting habits, I mostly used tone to read him in the past, I don't really ever remember peoples' voting habits, except maybe my brother
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
are we talking by mafia or town? I think a mafia kill in town!killjoy worlds could happen because of how we treat him, or a loose-cannon town might yeet him.
idk just sounded like you were saying he's self resolving and, well
Not sure if you just didn't think that through or if the stronger players are your wolf partners
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
are we talking by mafia or town? I think a mafia kill in town!killjoy worlds could happen because of how we treat him, or a loose-cannon town might yeet him.
idk just sounded like you were saying he's self resolving and, well
Not sure if you just didn't think that through or if the stronger players are your wolf partners
He could possibly self-resolve if he is town, I don't know why that sounds so weird
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
are we talking by mafia or town? I think a mafia kill in town!killjoy worlds could happen because of how we treat him, or a loose-cannon town might yeet him.
idk just sounded like you were saying he's self resolving and, well Not sure if you just didn't think that through or if the stronger players are your wolf partners
Can you flesh this out for some of the slower kids in the back?
Killjoy will a lot of the time, ask questions and go nowhere with them, worry about it day 3 or later, if he isn't already dead by then. that's my stance on the matter, he feels fine right now
Ah, do you think Killjoy is likely an early NK in this player list?
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
are we talking by mafia or town? I think a mafia kill in town!killjoy worlds could happen because of how we treat him, or a loose-cannon town might yeet him.
idk just sounded like you were saying he's self resolving and, well Not sure if you just didn't think that through or if the stronger players are your wolf partners
Can you flesh this out for some of the slower kids in the back?
Well he doubled down instead so like... Gonna think about that one for a bit
But essentially I don't believe Killjoy is self resolving in this player list and he will have to actually be read, while Wisp is saying he thinks KJ might die at some point so he doesn't have to actually read him, or something
The implication is that if he had thought about it he wouldn't have said he didn't need to read Killjoy before day 3, because I think he absolutely should -- the chances of KJ being killed are pretty small
That's not how statistics work - picking any four players totally at random has a 1 in 4 chance of getting scum assuming 25% scum population.
Super not interested in continuing down the statistics argument any further than it's already been addressed, and I doubt anyone else wants to read through it anyway.
Assessing the conscious moves 4 players made to distance themselves is not random picking.
It's not random picking, but it is as ineffective such. All you are really doing is throwing mass shade. And if you are assessing the players involved, then you are assessing the motivations of joke votes. Which, like...
Ftr, I honestly find this bizarrely strong reaction to me saying that your reasons were flimsy in comparison to the other 3 who also have flimsy reasons more of an eyebrow-raiser than the situation you're reacting to to begin with - which I did label as flimsy in itself, as in 'not worth pursuing on its own'.
All I said about your flimsy remark was that it was funny. This whole discussion has been about the scattershot shade. The flimsy remark is just icing on the cake.
It is pretty ridiculous though. It's a vote during RVS. It obviously wasn't meant to be taken seriously. So how could the flimsiness of it matter? What would I, as scum, hope to gain from a dogpile at that stage of the game? It's obviously not real pressure, not going to lead to a claim, not going to end in an elim, etc. So what exactly do you think I'm trying "to get away with?"
If 25% of the game is scum and you pick players at random, you have a 25% chance with each pick that you'll hit scum. If you have a 25% chance 4 times, you are most likely to hit one scum and three townies. Certainly you are most likely to hit at least one scum, which is what he is saying.
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I realize his grouping is not random. But what he is saying is functionally as effective as picking players at random, and is therefor a useless statement.
...I have no idea what you're trying to prove here.
Does this make sense to anyone?
Your incredulity rings false. Whether or not you agree with it, what I am saying is pretty clear.
ohh I will not be ok with a killjoy lynch prior to day 2-3 unless you give me some damning evidence or I find damning evidence, none of which is, "He is asking too many questions" or, "his questions aren't doing anything"
If GJ wants to understand Killjoy he can knock himself out, but I don't want to hear, "but he is asking a lot of questions" over and over, as if that means anything without some real context
I'm generally getting townie vibes from KJ atm. In general I don't endorse the policy of not looking into him until Day 3, but I'm also fine with leaving him be for the time being.
Damn it all, did you guys seriously post five pages in less than a day?
Here's my check-in post. I'm Verity, the King-in-Waiting at Buckkeep. I don't have a clue what this game is based on, but clearly I'm royalty, so prepare to kiss ass.
Anyway, we should be at an advantage because Grapefruit is mod. Grapefruit and Vaimes are the two people I can never read.
lol rip me. So I was trying to figure out if Last's really strong ability to read GJ was an actual thing and was about to be all like nu-uh when I saw that he had a town read on Johnny in Matters mafia, and then I looked at the scum team again and lol they were partners. so never mind. It does look like they have a bit of connection in games from what little I looked at - Prison mafia might suggest that too, but I just mostly looked at GJ's posts to see if there was any interaction with Last. I realize this would be pretty stupid to lie about, but there's just something that doesn't feel right between the two, so I wanted to see how much the accurate read thing was. The you're not voting jab and response felt off. Probably because in my experience, the people who are conservative with their vote stick out. Believe me! So I don't know that just felt off. In glancing in those two games, they both feel a bit off too. I did not deep meta dive at all so that is shaky shaky, but something doesn't feel right there. With either of them.
@Sloth ne'er mind. 'tis th' game where he got wrongly town cleared wit' his PR, I remember now.
He was upset wit' th' setup iirc, that ain't a comparable situation
We might be remembering things differently, but I do believe he was immediately getting frustrated when the heat turned to him.
Granted, he wasn't happy with the setup but I don't believe getting caught had zero effect on him given how quickly things devolved after that. Still, subjective - so whatev.
Like I asked, can you solidify the read further or is the frustration it?
I saw th' game mostly from spec chat since I suicided Day 2 'n I saw GJ frustration happen live in scum chat.
@Rhand
I mean we can go way back, and look at the game where I was modkilled, which proves frustration whether used as a tool or just out of whatever proves that is not true what so ever when it comes to GJ.
I am not interested in your feedback atm since I don't know what alignment it comes from, you may very well believe that, but it's not true whatsoever
so /shrug
@Higheroller
I am hoping WoW will keep me from top-posting, I think this game has a majority of wallers, and slow posters, outside the typical Kiiljoy, GJ, and me, and maybe Sloth if he doesn't disappear at one point, so it shouldn't be too crazy
I could be wrong, but I don't think you were overly concerned about what I was hoping to "achieve" with my Cantrip vote. What makes this one special?
Normally you vote people because:
1) you think/know the are scum and want them out of the game
2) want to pressure them
3) RVS
And I think it's bit too late for 3), and since Iso hasn't posted yet, I doubt it's 1) either (unless you have pre-game guilty check on him or something) and in same vain 2) doesn't seem logical.
So why?
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(Beyond the simple statement of number magic being wrong.)
Granted, he wasn't happy with the setup but I don't believe getting caught had zero effect on him given how quickly things devolved after that. Still, subjective - so whatev.
Like I asked, can you solidify the read further or is the frustration it?
I clearly forgot my /s
It was a comment that Wisp's vote looks pretty wolfy. Usually when you vote someone, you don't immediately hedge on them being town and pocketed. It just doesn't look like he objectively trying to read me, it looks like he is trying to justify seeing in anything takes off, while having room to move off. It looks to me like a hedge, with him trying to have room to move to Rhand if that takes off.
As far as my salt goes, nah. I used to get really angry because I have to make every post a dissertation, and have half the wolf team figured out by page 3, or people think I am not solving. I don't know why I am held to such an absurd standard, but it is what it is.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I mostly just have a mental checklist of things town!KJ does and as long as he stays within the confines of that list, I have no issues. I don't think he's ever rolled scum here, but he gets suspected all the time anyways.
The biggest thing is that he asks a ton of questions and most of the time it looks like scummy busywork.
There's a quite a difference between me liking a single post and me actively thinking someone is town
No, I'm not actually townreading CC. I just liked that one post for reasons I mentioned earlier.
Bur, you realize that when people like posts, it's basically saying the post reads townie?
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I am not holding you to any standard lol, is anyone? or did I miss something? my read on you is purely tonal, I don't think I have read more than 5 or so of your posts lol
@Rhand
have fun with that
fair enough, thanks
I don't I've ever used "liking" and "town-lean" as synonyms
him calling you town can be something he believes, but I don't think that specific frustration means anything, if anythings its easily used as a false argument to pressure someone, which I am not saying it is being done here, but who knows.
I don't expect you to lock in your trap for the remainder of the game, but I also don't expect in the same breathe to push someone, and the verbally make a comment that this person is town, if Rhand is a wolf. Reads like you are worried about how you look, and if/when you move.
And you have never struck me as that style of player.
@Sloth: I wasn't even remotely frustrated until post game, so I don't know why you would use Matters as an example for me to be frustrated as a wolf.
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The GJ way path to no lynching:
To sloth, apparently I am not solving enough. Wouldn't even be miffed if he said my solving came off as fake. But to say I am not attempting to solve just makes me furious.
Except now. Because I wear the mask of calmness. There is no anger here.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I want Cuth to be town because I want him to be town. Besides he said he thinks I'm town so he's obviously town.
KJ feels comfortable actually and I liked that dream post response. If it's true that he's never drawn scum here before, I'd kinda expect a bit more cautious feeling, more along the lines of that opening post that I thought was cautious. I don't mind him not moving the game forward by page two whether by actively not doing it or just not doing it. I think it's only really alignment indicative if he's normally an early game pusher and here he's just not.
I'm totally going to fence sit on GJ right now. I didn't really like him pushing KJ for not pushing the game forward so early because that felt like an easy thing to push and not for really great reasons. HOWEVER, there's a reason I don't do much scum hunting in the early game and that's because I have a really hard time telling the difference between town pushing minor things to get the game started or form early impressions and scum trying to look like they're doing something useful. To me calling KJ wolfy for not seeing anything to push early feels like scum trying to look like they're getting to work early and the push feels weak. I thought the "frustration" over Rhand's roleplaying felt a little bit fake but then I feel like an ass for thinking it sounds fake because it could totally be real.
BUT I don't get the argument against him for saying that he hoped that wisp had forgotten how to read him rather than him being a wolf. The push that that feels off feels really wrong. It made perfect sense to me that he would prefer someone have forgotten how to read him over him being a wolf because arms races are a thing. Having someone who reads you well stop being able to read you well means that next time you're scum against them you're in a better position. And if you like playing with someone, you typically like your friends to be the same alignment as you unless you're just a weirdo freak :P. Also liked the annoyance at expectations for solving the game early relatable. Well these reasons I like of him are partially because yeah i can just relate here and who knows and probably too early to be spending this much time thinking about GJ. (Also if at any point, Good Job! is where Gentleman Johnny should be, it's just because of the macros I have set up for feedback lol)
This is not really a reads list, (I don't do those traditional lists anyway, just some thoughts here and there. I have some other thoughts that I'm just gonna sit on for a bit.
Whoever was asking about "wolves on Iso" it's (1) a numbers thing and (2) just seems like a thing a wolf might do
and there is no trap
I am looking at posts when I can, you look bad, and I think Rhand also looks independently bad, which given how decent he probably is, it could be any arrangement of t/t, t/w, w/t, w/w, either way I don't care right now, those are just my thoughts, which I will say no matter what lol
@Vaimes: My core of hunting as town is basically boiled down to one fundamental question: Is this person trying to solve the game? Yes, they are town. No, they are wolf. I'll snag the occasional townie, but honestly, townies that aren't solving should be lynched more. Or get better at faking it, or I don't know. KJ's posts bother me because he will ask questions, and then do nothing with them. I also think he doesn't try to get people to follow him, and in particular, his response to me about no one doing anything just reads disdainfully.
He has half the team defending him from even questioning, so I don't really see a point in continuing. But I just roll my eyes and move on.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Pretty conservative with my vote, tbh.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I can't believe this is still be talked about. Has Iso even posted yet?
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Oh is math magic now?
2+2=dead wolf
Who knew Mafia could be so easy
Nothing against you KJ but like, we have a lot of strong players here lmao
Is he not usually?
I'm confused now. Aren't you the one who talks about meta and supposedly are a good reader of GJ? Wouldn't you know his vote tendencies? Would you expect for him to be voting at this point and it's suspicious that he's not? And if, so why this response.
What do you think you will achieve with this vote?
Not sure if you just didn't think that through or if the stronger players are your wolf partners
Let's keep the grandstanding to a minimum
Can you flesh this out for some of the slower kids in the back?
But essentially I don't believe Killjoy is self resolving in this player list and he will have to actually be read, while Wisp is saying he thinks KJ might die at some point so he doesn't have to actually read him, or something
It's not random picking, but it is as ineffective such. All you are really doing is throwing mass shade. And if you are assessing the players involved, then you are assessing the motivations of joke votes. Which, like...
All I said about your flimsy remark was that it was funny. This whole discussion has been about the scattershot shade. The flimsy remark is just icing on the cake.
It is pretty ridiculous though. It's a vote during RVS. It obviously wasn't meant to be taken seriously. So how could the flimsiness of it matter? What would I, as scum, hope to gain from a dogpile at that stage of the game? It's obviously not real pressure, not going to lead to a claim, not going to end in an elim, etc. So what exactly do you think I'm trying "to get away with?"
Your incredulity rings false. Whether or not you agree with it, what I am saying is pretty clear.
Vote:Slothful
I'm not buying it.
Here's my check-in post. I'm Verity, the King-in-Waiting at Buckkeep. I don't have a clue what this game is based on, but clearly I'm royalty, so prepare to kiss ass.
Anyway, we should be at an advantage because Grapefruit is mod. Grapefruit and Vaimes are the two people I can never read.
I'm going to read the game thread now.
I saw th' game mostly from spec chat since I suicided Day 2 'n I saw GJ frustration happen live in scum chat.
Th' frustration 'n his suspicion o' Wisp are it.
I mean we can go way back, and look at the game where I was modkilled, which proves frustration whether used as a tool or just out of whatever proves that is not true what so ever when it comes to GJ.
I am not interested in your feedback atm since I don't know what alignment it comes from, you may very well believe that, but it's not true whatsoever
so /shrug
@Higheroller
I am hoping WoW will keep me from top-posting, I think this game has a majority of wallers, and slow posters, outside the typical Kiiljoy, GJ, and me, and maybe Sloth if he doesn't disappear at one point, so it shouldn't be too crazy
anyways off to bed
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Why i don't have on mobile the menu of the answering box? :sadface:
I wonder, is the bolded a real thing?
Normally you vote people because:
1) you think/know the are scum and want them out of the game
2) want to pressure them
3) RVS
And I think it's bit too late for 3), and since Iso hasn't posted yet, I doubt it's 1) either (unless you have pre-game guilty check on him or something) and in same vain 2) doesn't seem logical.
So why?