Bolding again mine. Look at those four bottom surviving reads.
As usual, it takes Iso about two seconds to get to the same spot it takes me three days to get to. *shakes head*
You realize that with Wisp being neutral, if those three aren't exactly the team AND there isn't a fourth member, your name is next, so I don't know why you're presenting that list as anything super useful.
Bolding again mine. Look at those four bottom surviving reads.
As usual, it takes Iso about two seconds to get to the same spot it takes me three days to get to. *shakes head*
You realize that with Wisp being neutral, if those three aren't exactly the team AND there isn't a fourth member, your name is next, so I don't know why you're presenting that list as anything super useful.
lol
I hadn't posted yet, Vaimes. And neutral gives off the same reads as scum.
Probably no one else is enough of an Iso fan-boy for this to sway them, but it means a lot to me.
But more relevant than the reads-list, is his meta knowledge on Bur being sure-fire scum if he lurks.
Bur isn't witted yet, either, right?
@LW - You haven't read much on the game's flavor, have you? Yes, I'm one of the naturally witted. I "got" wit from Anak, but was already naturally witted as well, and never used it.
Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow. Gotta run errands in the morning, but school starts tomorrow, so I'll be sitting here at my computer working so I will be here.
Bolding again mine. Look at those four bottom surviving reads.
As usual, it takes Iso about two seconds to get to the same spot it takes me three days to get to. *shakes head*
You realize that with Wisp being neutral, if those three aren't exactly the team AND there isn't a fourth member, your name is next, so I don't know why you're presenting that list as anything super useful.
lol
I hadn't posted yet, Vaimes. And neutral gives off the same reads as scum.
Probably no one else is enough of an Iso fan-boy for this to sway them, but it means a lot to me.
But more relevant than the reads-list, is his meta knowledge on Bur being sure-fire scum if he lurks.
Bur isn't witted yet, either, right?
@LW - You haven't read much on the game's flavor, have you? Yes, I'm one of the naturally witted. I "got" wit from Anak, but was already naturally witted as well, and never used it.
i wont kill bur, and you kill Anak
wit cuth or Boom
but like nobody is going to actually move, it doesn't even matter
Maybe GJ isn't a wolf, and it's just highroller, since that post howlssss.
Oh really? Tell me, is it worse than claiming you're not town? How would you rank it compared to my one previous post, which you also said was suspicious without any explanation?
Yeah, it was obvious that you weren't posting in good faith prior to being outed as a hostile. Right now it's plainly obvious that you're either mafia or a neutral that has me on his list.
I take 1 vit from people I don't need to target and 3 from people I do, it still requires in worlds of 7 starting vit, 3 days phases to kill someone by myself. Actually 3 day phases to set up and a night phase to off them
7 VIT?! Holy *****... I hope you're lying about this.
Bur, you realize that when people like posts, it's basically saying the post reads townie?
Turns out, by that same token, going at someone four separate times in the span of less than two hours, in addition to outright calling him "wolfy," is a push.
So maybe best not to accuse someone of posting in bad faith when your actions don't match your rhetoric. Mmmkay? Sound good?
You said you wanted to yeet Wisp second before the claim - what were your reasons? Your posts makes it look like "he's 3rder, kill it" as the only reason.
First of all, that's the only reason we should need. He's a threat to the town. Our win condition is kill threats to the town.
Second, Wisp was just obviously shifty. He has claimed me mafia and voted for me with absolutely no rationale given, and came at me three times in one page when I'd posted exactly once. It came off as opportunism, going after a low poster, which is made all the more clear with his claimed role. He's either mafia or I'm one of the people he needs dead, but it definitely wasn't coming from a place of good faith. He was clearly not a town even before he made it undeniable by outing himself.
I don’t think that highroller’s push on wisp has to come from scum. I do think that mafia are more likely to want to push the claimed third party because it’s easy and is possibly detrimental to the scum team, BUT there are people out there that legitimately think you should never suffer a nontown to live no matter what. I don’t know high roller, so I do not know if that’s his theory. I wasn’t totally ensnared with his GJ push even though it has some of the same reasoning as me for finding him scummy. I guess he felt a little too dramatic about it.
I was in a game on this very forum in which the town lost with the exact mindset being expressed here, "No, let's not lynch the neutral and instead vote for mafia."
It is singularly ridiculous to argue that a lynch that has a 100% chance of killing a hostile and a 0% chance of killing a town should not be taken.
Ohh no he claimed 3p he is anti town, thata like claiming an angel is anti town, it's just a ***** role, u shouldn't have anything to worry about if you start slinging wolves day 1 and on, in regards to the possibilities of me killing town
#gitgudmaybe
Ohh no he claimed 3p he is anti town, thata like claiming an angel is anti town, it's just a ***** role, u shouldn't have anything to worry about if you start slinging wolves day 1 and on, in regards to the possibilities of me killing town
#gitgudmaybe
What the hell? Your role's job is to kill towns!
I don't know who my targets are or there alignment, there is no way all 5 of my targets are town, and if u just lunch Mafia which is not me, then we will be fine.
We are not going to be fine, because you are a person whom we need to lynch to win, whose win condition by its very nature means we lose, who has nightkills, and, given vitality shenanigans, apparent vig-kill immunity.
We'll be fine when you're dead.
*frowns*
I mean, if HR's acting it's a hell of a performance. It seemed like a caricature almost, but that's probably more paranoia than what's probable. I don't think that's really been HR's wheelhouse.
I went back to check if Chad ever replied to my questions too, but he actually hasn't posted since yesterday. Poor timing. Come back, Chad.
Also bouncing around Cuth thoughts in my head, and I find myself in the peculiar position that I'm not a fan of the way he's putting as little effort into things as possible, which flies in the face of the brief but content-heavy posts I've come to expect from him. However, in all the games that I remember with him, he was actually scum, so the deviation here is...good...?
Someone speak on this with me.
counterpoint: i have a bunch of stuff i need to get done by friday and this is a >two week long phase
also thank you very much i am keeping track of the game and have Thoughts in my head
but they're not that in depth because of gamestate and me being busy elsewhere
and i don't really want to post a lot without depth because i'm definitely gonna want to come back and reread the game closer to EoD and the less time that takes the better in my books
Again, with the thoughts in his head, and the not sharing them. And then trying to delay providing reads until the EoD?
i think wolves are probably more likely to take the wisp claim at face value rather than pushing for a yeet there strongly on average
because having a "maybe we need to be paranoid and yeet there" is great long-term and short-term having a role that sucks vitality from more villagers than wolves is their-sided
it's a convenient thing to keep in your pocket
i just don't want to yeet here mostly because i think it's fairly likely real and pretty unfun to yeet out of the gate either way
but wisp's play and thought processes post-claim today have been
what i'd expect to see in a good way?
so i think i'm still fine with just trusting it and playing around it
and i don't really want to reevaluate that down the road purely out of fear
so if we could hit a wolf or two up front here that'd be great
First line here tends to contradict the vote he JUST made.
Just woke up though so I’ll actually read what he said in full later, but my first impression is too blustery. Might just be normal for him. I haven’t played with him in years, and only once or twice maybe.
The beginning of her read on me. Continued consistently on down that road, from there, tracks well.
@Cuth
you already got sassed by Vaimes, but thanks for telling us that, 18 hours before EoD, and you aren't even probably going to be around to help us achieve a different lunch anyways
For the record, while I would prefer not to die yet, it'd be pretty satisfying if Cuth went down with me.
Also, we should probably have a designated wit or skill partner pairing set an exact time to simul-post the double lynch at a set time, if we can achieve that.
If you wait all the way up until 5:00 pm EST, someone could screw with us. If two people do it at like 4:53 EST or something, much less likely anyone can tamper with us.
@Cuth
you already got sassed by Vaimes, but thanks for telling us that, 18 hours before EoD, and you aren't even probably going to be around to help us achieve a different lunch anyways
Thank you for your opinion 18 hours to deadline on the world's slowest forum.
ok I regret the snark now
I don't really want to kill Az all that much, but it's felt inevitable for most of the Day. I'd rather CFD Boom or Anak.
Ok, I’m back and forth on Az. No offence @Az, pretty much from when he came in with his “solved the game” post from way back, my hackles have been up. But if you cut away the bull*****, the thought process posts look good, like someone working through the game. If he’s faking this it’s good. And if he’s faking the good, why does he keep purposely doing the bad? 2/3 of his post make me want to smash that vote button, but if I look at the third, I can bob my head along with it and see how he gets there.
Anak’s position has trended down for me. I don’t think you can be that confident on townAz, like what do you see that everyone else isn’t? So the Samwise Gamgee like devotion is just weird. Wouldn’t Az have told him to cool it down if they were aligned? But why would scumAnak fight the townAz lynch? Is Anak just pocketed? I feel like I’m chasing my tail and missing the forest for the trees.
Gun to head, Az feels scummier than Anak. Why do you think differently?
In The Middle/No Specific Reason to Like Or Dislike
Bur
Cuth
Cantrip
Wisp
Wisp
Maybe Leaning Bad
Sloth
Tubba
Leaning Bad
Az
Raisins
Tammy: In general I've liked her posting. I've liked her questions, where her mind goes, etc. Just a generally townie seeming person.
Vaimes: There were a few posts that had some questionable content. Not outright scummy, but more of a makes me headtilt type. But his posts in the past 24 hours are reminding mr of townie Vaimes so I'm dropping the headtilting as likely wrong.
HR: General aggressiveness in play is weird for scum, with specific reference to wanting Wisp REALLY dead for a good portion of the game.The recent prompting me to do things is good as I believe it shows a desire to read me, ergo he probably doesn't know my alignment, ergo, probably town.
Anak: So he's been up Az's ass all game, and I've failed to see really why, but weirdly enough, Az made a good case that he's town. I believe that Anak is probably town independent of Az's alignment if Az is scum.
Boom: His play has been... eh. I'm mostly just trusting his claim in a for now sense, given he's one of the few protectives, and I'm scumreading one of the others. In the back of my head is the thought that his claim is actually a scum trueclaim as well as that Doctor that has apperently claimed to Tammy. This townslot will have to be earned in coming Days.
Bessie: I haven't really spent too much time talking about her, nor has she really engaged with me much. This position is kind of a... gut thing? Something about where she is in relation to everyone else in the game positionally kind of makes me think... maaybe town? Like, she's floating by not super noticed, but she's also been decently aggressive, which is good.
Bur/Cuth: Kind of occupy the same headspace for me. Neither has done anything I really consider super noteworthy save for Cuth's claim, but that's just kinda weird instead of alingment bearing.
Cantrip: I can't actually remember anything he's done this game.
Wisp: Neutral. Don't really care too mcuh about him.
Sloth: Sloth is kinda a new addition here. I was not terribly impressed with his catchup, and the thing where he extended past a simple question to draw false conclusions is a reason I am keeping an eye on him. I wanna read more into him, but he's def not in my townpile atm.
Tubba: Tubba had only a few posts that I've liked, most are just memes (null) or blah. I've not noticed the conviction I'm used to seeing in Town Tubba.
Az: Az is notoriously hard for me to read, but I feel like he's... IDK. When he made a post to me asnwering my question, but then started talking to someone else without like... saying he was changing @people doesn't feel... natural. Also he's got a strong townread of me for a stronger reason than I feel he should have, and it doesn't make sense for him to have came to that conclusion naturally.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
In The Middle/No Specific Reason to Like Or Dislike
Bur
Cuth
Cantrip
Wisp
Wisp
Maybe Leaning Bad
Sloth
Tubba
Leaning Bad
Az
Raisins
Tammy: In general I've liked her posting. I've liked her questions, where her mind goes, etc. Just a generally townie seeming person.
Vaimes: There were a few posts that had some questionable content. Not outright scummy, but more of a makes me headtilt type. But his posts in the past 24 hours are reminding mr of townie Vaimes so I'm dropping the headtilting as likely wrong.
HR: General aggressiveness in play is weird for scum, with specific reference to wanting Wisp REALLY dead for a good portion of the game.The recent prompting me to do things is good as I believe it shows a desire to read me, ergo he probably doesn't know my alignment, ergo, probably town.
Anak: So he's been up Az's ass all game, and I've failed to see really why, but weirdly enough, Az made a good case that he's town. I believe that Anak is probably town independent of Az's alignment if Az is scum.
Boom: His play has been... eh. I'm mostly just trusting his claim in a for now sense, given he's one of the few protectives, and I'm scumreading one of the others. In the back of my head is the thought that his claim is actually a scum trueclaim as well as that Doctor that has apperently claimed to Tammy. This townslot will have to be earned in coming Days.
Bessie: I haven't really spent too much time talking about her, nor has she really engaged with me much. This position is kind of a... gut thing? Something about where she is in relation to everyone else in the game positionally kind of makes me think... maaybe town? Like, she's floating by not super noticed, but she's also been decently aggressive, which is good.
Bur/Cuth: Kind of occupy the same headspace for me. Neither has done anything I really consider super noteworthy save for Cuth's claim, but that's just kinda weird instead of alingment bearing.
Cantrip: I can't actually remember anything he's done this game.
Wisp: Neutral. Don't really care too mcuh about him.
Sloth: Sloth is kinda a new addition here. I was not terribly impressed with his catchup, and the thing where he extended past a simple question to draw false conclusions is a reason I am keeping an eye on him. I wanna read more into him, but he's def not in my townpile atm.
Tubba: Tubba had only a few posts that I've liked, most are just memes (null) or blah. I've not noticed the conviction I'm used to seeing in Town Tubba.
Az: Az is notoriously hard for me to read, but I feel like he's... IDK. When he made a post to me asnwering my question, but then started talking to someone else without like... saying he was changing @people doesn't feel... natural. Also he's got a strong townread of me for a stronger reason than I feel he should have, and it doesn't make sense for him to have came to that conclusion naturally.
I don't recall you ever mentioning before that I'm a tough read for you.
How is addressing multiple people in the same post remotely something that comes from scum az and not from town az? This isn't remotely a tell. This is mafia, not Goosebumps. Things you can't explain are things you need to investigate, not kill.
I'm short on time. I take shortcuts.
Second, the guy who tries to analyze entire playerbases in two weeks is scum for reading you too quickly?
You can always argue I'm wrong or the read can't be trusted, but this is what keeps forcing me to go back and make statements that HR can twist to try and make me sound pretentious. I just don't have the same playstyle, habits, and perspectives that most other players here have, on account of needing to compress my analysis into a short time-span due to constantly being murdered in a previous life.
You're attempting to lynch me for a skill that I used dozens of times previously, in games that could easily be cited, such as Cyan's impossible mafia, the invitational games, etc.
Don't just lynch anomalies. Ask and learn about them.
This is why Iso semi-retired as well, as he mentioned in this same game. Explaining every game why he does things so differently, and why he has the confidence that he did in his reads to people who don't understand where the comes from - it warps the nature of the game. You become the circus freak, and it causes people to want to kill you simply for being yourself after finding a technique that works for you. Intensely frustrating.
There seem to be multiples of several role types -> there are almost certainly multiple vitality thief roles --> vitality thief is probably(?) Not Town --> Highroller lost vit so he's probably town
He could be lying about losing vit I suppose, but he was already probably a villager imo
Yeah I’m sorry Az but I just completely do not think that HR/Bur/Cuth has any scum. I’ll feel super silly if this game is as easy as “kill the lurkers” but 1) it almost never is that easy, and 2) I’m not gonna be super bummed for not being able to differentiate between lurking villagers and wolves.
Like yeah Iso said Bur lurks as scum, but if he lurks it’s because he doesn’t want to interact, so why is he happy interacting one on one via the Skill? What’s the point? Bur isn’t trying to get me to townread him. These viewpoints on him need to be reconciled, you can’t just say Bur is lurking and scum.
What kind of scumteam do you see with those three as villagers?
So I fell asleep after walking my dog (sorry not sorry).
And now Az is OG witter on top of STD? And x-shot bp on top?
...jesus christ. I'm done with this Day.
Ok so, my votes are where they are. Due to IRL stuff, I might be able to pop in every now and again toDay but it'll be on my phone and pretty limited. I expect I should be back on a computer around 3 or so, but that's just a few hours before Nightfall. I'll vote on whoever the two leading wagons are when I return.
Ftr, I still think I got the right call and I cannot ******* believe we are here again for the second Day in a row what the **** is wrong with you people.
Spent a little time this morning looking through bur. Bur has been fine in our skill chat and hasn’t seemed scummy to me in thread. But after looking through bur, lurking just isn’t alignment indicative. But mentioned in the skill chat in reference to Az’s claim that bur loves playing mafia that they haven’t played a large in years. In searching through bur, I found a comment made last year that they don’t sign up for games with more than 12 people because they get overwhelmed, fall behind, lurk and lose motivation.
So yeah, the activity just isn’t alignment indicative.
I agree with Vaimes That I just don’t see that Poe being the scumteam. Maybe one scum in there due to it being hard to be certain, but that just doesn’t feel right.
Be back in a bit. I’ll be around on and off until deadline, so I’ll be voting don’t worry.
I would like to rescind that last sentence, sorry - frustrated for OOG reasons.
Anyway, yes: 1 of {Anak/Tubba} + 1 of {Az/HR} should be our kill toDay, as I don't see a world where everyone gets on board with a Wisp yeet in time (in which my vote is on Az/Wisp, btw).
Anak over Tubba - Tubba displayed uncertainty and lack of confidence in his second wit message to me which I do not believe was coached, and Tubba's yet to fool me as scum, so if this is the first time, good for him. In-thread, he's been asking the right questions.
Anak on the other hand, has nothing that makes me think he's an asset, and a couple of things that could be scum. This one's just a weak thing.
Az over HR - HR's ******* fury and conviction (previously against Wisp, now against Az and Anak) are mindblowing if it's coming from scum.
Az for reasons I'm tired of repeating, and what I've said D2 is still true toDay; regardless of his flip, the rest of the game falls into place.
@KJ Hey, talk to me about what's unimpressive about my catch-up beyond what was directly questioning you?
(agree to disagree on that btw, but no time for more now.)
Also, props to Vaimes for pumping the brakes on this boom wagon.
This thing looks like seriously bad news. Do I think some scum are coasting here while the town derps? Sure. But Boom isn't remotely the person is start with, particularly after what Bur just did to him.
I guesssss I could blast Boom if Az does flip red.
Alright, going to start with a few basic premises here.
Premises:
1. I'm playing scummy this game, particularly to those who are familiar with my town meta. There's really no good reason for someone like GJ to be town-reading me. For those who recognize my scum meta from past years, this is what it used to look like. Non-motivated, inactive Azrael.
only the original 5 can make people witted
I don't really want to kill Az all that much, but it's felt inevitable for most of the Day. I'd rather CFD Boom or Anak.
I will be around tomorrow. Let me double check the time.
lol
I hadn't posted yet, Vaimes. And neutral gives off the same reads as scum.
Probably no one else is enough of an Iso fan-boy for this to sway them, but it means a lot to me.
But more relevant than the reads-list, is his meta knowledge on Bur being sure-fire scum if he lurks.
Bur isn't witted yet, either, right?
@LW - You haven't read much on the game's flavor, have you? Yes, I'm one of the naturally witted. I "got" wit from Anak, but was already naturally witted as well, and never used it.
wit cuth or Boom
but like nobody is going to actually move, it doesn't even matter
he is not a high poster, it's completely irrelevant to his alignment
I'm making him witted now.
I'm also skilling Vaimes my Sloth read, since that seems to be something he feels is urgent.
vote: Tubba
*frowns*
I mean, if HR's acting it's a hell of a performance. It seemed like a caricature almost, but that's probably more paranoia than what's probable. I don't think that's really been HR's wheelhouse.
Again, with the thoughts in his head, and the not sharing them. And then trying to delay providing reads until the EoD?
Whatever his alignment, that's just bizarre.
I don't mind the vote on me, but the rationale, and the weak wording in those last four lines, seems fairly contrived.
First line here tends to contradict the vote he JUST made.
The beginning of her read on me. Continued consistently on down that road, from there, tracks well.
I don't think I'm making it much further tonight.
you already got sassed by Vaimes, but thanks for telling us that, 18 hours before EoD, and you aren't even probably going to be around to help us achieve a different lunch anyways
Also, we should probably have a designated wit or skill partner pairing set an exact time to simul-post the double lynch at a set time, if we can achieve that.
If you wait all the way up until 5:00 pm EST, someone could screw with us. If two people do it at like 4:53 EST or something, much less likely anyone can tamper with us.
I like the first thing, but am not a particular fan of the last one.
not with that kind of attitude
Ok, I’m back and forth on Az. No offence @Az, pretty much from when he came in with his “solved the game” post from way back, my hackles have been up. But if you cut away the bull*****, the thought process posts look good, like someone working through the game. If he’s faking this it’s good. And if he’s faking the good, why does he keep purposely doing the bad? 2/3 of his post make me want to smash that vote button, but if I look at the third, I can bob my head along with it and see how he gets there.
Anak’s position has trended down for me. I don’t think you can be that confident on townAz, like what do you see that everyone else isn’t? So the Samwise Gamgee like devotion is just weird. Wouldn’t Az have told him to cool it down if they were aligned? But why would scumAnak fight the townAz lynch? Is Anak just pocketed? I feel like I’m chasing my tail and missing the forest for the trees.
Gun to head, Az feels scummier than Anak. Why do you think differently?
Townie
Tammy
Vaimes
HR
Townish
Anak
Boom
Bessie?
In The Middle/No Specific Reason to Like Or Dislike
Bur
Cuth
Cantrip
Wisp
Wisp
Maybe Leaning Bad
Sloth
Tubba
Leaning Bad
Az
Raisins
Tammy: In general I've liked her posting. I've liked her questions, where her mind goes, etc. Just a generally townie seeming person.
Vaimes: There were a few posts that had some questionable content. Not outright scummy, but more of a makes me headtilt type. But his posts in the past 24 hours are reminding mr of townie Vaimes so I'm dropping the headtilting as likely wrong.
HR: General aggressiveness in play is weird for scum, with specific reference to wanting Wisp REALLY dead for a good portion of the game.The recent prompting me to do things is good as I believe it shows a desire to read me, ergo he probably doesn't know my alignment, ergo, probably town.
Anak: So he's been up Az's ass all game, and I've failed to see really why, but weirdly enough, Az made a good case that he's town. I believe that Anak is probably town independent of Az's alignment if Az is scum.
Boom: His play has been... eh. I'm mostly just trusting his claim in a for now sense, given he's one of the few protectives, and I'm scumreading one of the others. In the back of my head is the thought that his claim is actually a scum trueclaim as well as that Doctor that has apperently claimed to Tammy. This townslot will have to be earned in coming Days.
Bessie: I haven't really spent too much time talking about her, nor has she really engaged with me much. This position is kind of a... gut thing? Something about where she is in relation to everyone else in the game positionally kind of makes me think... maaybe town? Like, she's floating by not super noticed, but she's also been decently aggressive, which is good.
Bur/Cuth: Kind of occupy the same headspace for me. Neither has done anything I really consider super noteworthy save for Cuth's claim, but that's just kinda weird instead of alingment bearing.
Cantrip: I can't actually remember anything he's done this game.
Wisp: Neutral. Don't really care too mcuh about him.
Sloth: Sloth is kinda a new addition here. I was not terribly impressed with his catchup, and the thing where he extended past a simple question to draw false conclusions is a reason I am keeping an eye on him. I wanna read more into him, but he's def not in my townpile atm.
Tubba: Tubba had only a few posts that I've liked, most are just memes (null) or blah. I've not noticed the conviction I'm used to seeing in Town Tubba.
Az: Az is notoriously hard for me to read, but I feel like he's... IDK. When he made a post to me asnwering my question, but then started talking to someone else without like... saying he was changing @people doesn't feel... natural. Also he's got a strong townread of me for a stronger reason than I feel he should have, and it doesn't make sense for him to have came to that conclusion naturally.
I don't recall you ever mentioning before that I'm a tough read for you.
How is addressing multiple people in the same post remotely something that comes from scum az and not from town az? This isn't remotely a tell. This is mafia, not Goosebumps. Things you can't explain are things you need to investigate, not kill.
I'm short on time. I take shortcuts.
Second, the guy who tries to analyze entire playerbases in two weeks is scum for reading you too quickly?
You can always argue I'm wrong or the read can't be trusted, but this is what keeps forcing me to go back and make statements that HR can twist to try and make me sound pretentious. I just don't have the same playstyle, habits, and perspectives that most other players here have, on account of needing to compress my analysis into a short time-span due to constantly being murdered in a previous life.
You're attempting to lynch me for a skill that I used dozens of times previously, in games that could easily be cited, such as Cyan's impossible mafia, the invitational games, etc.
Don't just lynch anomalies. Ask and learn about them.
This is why Iso semi-retired as well, as he mentioned in this same game. Explaining every game why he does things so differently, and why he has the confidence that he did in his reads to people who don't understand where the comes from - it warps the nature of the game. You become the circus freak, and it causes people to want to kill you simply for being yourself after finding a technique that works for you. Intensely frustrating.
Unvote, Unvote
No risk of me ******* everything up again, promise.
Like yeah Iso said Bur lurks as scum, but if he lurks it’s because he doesn’t want to interact, so why is he happy interacting one on one via the Skill? What’s the point? Bur isn’t trying to get me to townread him. These viewpoints on him need to be reconciled, you can’t just say Bur is lurking and scum.
What kind of scumteam do you see with those three as villagers?
vote: Azreal
vote: tubba
can't afford another no yeet
And now Az is OG witter on top of STD? And x-shot bp on top?
...jesus christ. I'm done with this Day.
Ok so, my votes are where they are. Due to IRL stuff, I might be able to pop in every now and again toDay but it'll be on my phone and pretty limited. I expect I should be back on a computer around 3 or so, but that's just a few hours before Nightfall. I'll vote on whoever the two leading wagons are when I return.
Ftr, I still think I got the right call and I cannot ******* believe we are here again for the second Day in a row what the **** is wrong with you people.
For now.
So yeah, the activity just isn’t alignment indicative.
I agree with Vaimes That I just don’t see that Poe being the scumteam. Maybe one scum in there due to it being hard to be certain, but that just doesn’t feel right.
Be back in a bit. I’ll be around on and off until deadline, so I’ll be voting don’t worry.
Anyway, yes: 1 of {Anak/Tubba} + 1 of {Az/HR} should be our kill toDay, as I don't see a world where everyone gets on board with a Wisp yeet in time (in which my vote is on Az/Wisp, btw).
Anak over Tubba - Tubba displayed uncertainty and lack of confidence in his second wit message to me which I do not believe was coached, and Tubba's yet to fool me as scum, so if this is the first time, good for him. In-thread, he's been asking the right questions.
Anak on the other hand, has nothing that makes me think he's an asset, and a couple of things that could be scum. This one's just a weak thing.
Az over HR - HR's ******* fury and conviction (previously against Wisp, now against Az and Anak) are mindblowing if it's coming from scum.
Az for reasons I'm tired of repeating, and what I've said D2 is still true toDay; regardless of his flip, the rest of the game falls into place.
We have 7 hours.
(agree to disagree on that btw, but no time for more now.)
Ive one a long way!
I’ve come a long way is what that’s supposed to say. Phone posting from bed sucks.
This game I swear to christ.
The in a mafia azrael world, using a free action to try to get someone who is wavering on voting for him anyway to not vote for him is a smart move.