KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
Really Tammy? I would have claimed it if you'd said I should.
I held onto it partially because no one's claimed to care about Wit except Wisp.
Btw. There's something unrevealed about my role. Something that Tammy doesn't even know. It's literally not relevant right now. Not till lylo.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
Really Tammy? I would have claimed it if you'd said I should.
I held onto it partially because no one's claimed to care about Wit except Wisp.
Btw. There's something unrevealed about my role. Something that Tammy doesn't even know. It's literally not relevant right now. Not till lylo.
I missed your response, sorry. Not the forums fault this time ii just only saw your response to bur.
It freaked me almost ur that you were hiding it given I’ve been wondering if all the winters were town.
I'm King Shrewd, Town Tyrant. I'm a pragmatic ruler, father of Chivalry, Verity, and Regal and unafraid of murder politics. I'm perfectly willing to doom myself so long as I bring my family's enemies down with me.
This translates to my ability Eye For Eye, I can spend 1 vit on me to take 1 vit away from others.
N1 I targeted no one.
N2 I killed GJ (ok, in fairness, I had no ******* clue he'd die) - this I claimed to Tammy, along with everything else, and you can see her one-sided conversation with me on her posts yesterDay which should have been another ******* clue, tammy.
N3 I targeted Boom for reasons stated. Kinda forgot he had that extra vit so I almost jumped on him when I saw he was alive. Wisp calling on cuth reminded me.
And that's it, now you know. Was it ******* worth it?
So your whole role is "Spend one, remove one"? That's the whole thing?
Does anyone have, like, an updated list of all the claims? Right now I'm not really getting anything from them that has made the mass claiming at this point, but I also dont even remember most of them.
I'm going on 2 hours of sleep over the last 4 days yay.
Does anyone have, like, an updated list of all the claims? Right now I'm not really getting anything from them that has made the mass claiming worth it* at this point, but I also don't even remember most of them.
N1 I targeted no one.
N2 I killed GJ (ok, in fairness, I had no ******* clue he'd die) - this I claimed to Tammy, along with everything else, and you can see her one-sided conversation with me on her posts yesterDay which should have been another ******* clue, tammy.
N3 I targeted Boom for reasons stated. Kinda forgot he had that extra vit so I almost jumped on him when I saw he was alive. Wisp calling on cuth reminded me.
so explain to me, wtf is happening here with Highroller?
I promised myself I would not town read this claim since you didn't claim earlier, so I am not
N1 I targeted no one.
N2 I killed GJ (ok, in fairness, I had no ******* clue he'd die) - this I claimed to Tammy, along with everything else, and you can see her one-sided conversation with me on her posts yesterDay which should have been another ******* clue, tammy.
N3 I targeted Boom for reasons stated. Kinda forgot he had that extra vit so I almost jumped on him when I saw he was alive. Wisp calling on cuth reminded me.
so explain to me, wtf is happening here with Highroller?
I promised myself I would not town read this claim since you didn't claim earlier, so I am not
What do you mean explain to you? I've already said I wasn't the one that caused HR's vit loss. My guess is that there's another vit-taking role in the game, and unless Vaimes or Bessie are about to make the mother of all townie claims with it, that role's scum.
And yeah, I saw your multiple attempts to get me to claim yesterDay and your assumption that it was necessary. I disagreed, and I was right.
I skill-claimed Tammy in case I died overNight, then you'd have my flip and she'd fill in the blanks. Otherwise I was more or less expecting to claim toDay anyway. I took the necessary steps to make sure my info made it to town no matter what.
Like, you can huff and puff all you want about how claiming yesterDay was the right move but unless you can actually put a reason to the belief, you're just wrong.
Also, doesn't this mean we have two claimed vig variants? (Sloth and Cuth)
I've also kind of liked your posts toDay, all in all. You seem lackadaisical and unbothered by all of this - btw, do you not care you're down vit?
I've been expecting to get picked off for over a month at this point. I was not expecting someone to take credit for it. I'm waiting to see Bessie and VAIMES' claim before I start analyzing.
@Bessie
sure, knock me out with a town game then, the PoE is shriveling down though, unless you wanna blow me away with your spicy PoE
Hmmm, it appears I have played fewer games than I thought, that are actually accessible. I only have two town games that I can link, and a third as a hydra. Flavorless Mafia on Smashboards (I replaced in and replaced out) Witchhunt on Smashboards (small 7-player game)
I can provide more games but they are much older and on the Wayback Machine. Let me know if you want more.
But my earlier point still stands, that perhaps this feels like I am a wolf to you because you have played one game with me where I was mafia, and you had not read any other games of mine (town or non-town).
Tubba Fett – I haven’t had any strong pings from him either way. Most of his content is reactive but so is mine. I think his questioning has been ok and he seems to have responded to questions whenever he is asked anything. Really, I’m not seeing all the scum reads here. I understand the mechanical reasons eliminating him today, in that since there was no elimination D2 and we lose out on the information from the wagons, but I would rather eliminate a scum read.
I will revisit this read this weekend. I don’t have a lot of time to play on weekdays; one of the reasons that I agreed to join this game was because of the 48 hour posting minimum which works out well for me. I have more time on weekends.
I think Anak has to be town here. Given that Az must have been getting a steady supply of vitality from Anak, the only way Anak is scum is if 1) he fooled the **** outta Az and 2) if he could perpetually generate vitality somehow. No way scum are just bleeding out their own life force for a wineplay.
If Anak’s claim is true. Why are you so sure it is true? Do you really think Azrael wouldn’t claim he knew this when he could still post?
Basically what Vaimes said: I have hard time seeing this level of manipulation from mafia!Anak. If he indeed is mafia, I know who's winning best individual mafia award next year.
I will say the same thing to you that I said to Vaimes about Tammy in #3273. Are you saying this is out of Anak’s scope? Perhaps he’s a better player than you are giving him credit for.
Anak's ability probably points to town? or we can assume that Azreal got completely snowed by him, because from his reactions its clear that Anak's ability is real, or he is a wolf vit giver, that just gave Azreal vit over and over to sell his story
If Anak’s claim is true, how do you know this?
Oh, and it looks like we’re mass claiming?
Ok, I’m Brashen Trell, town first mate, I can spend 2 Vit to learn who visits a player at night. I have no useful results to share.
ya IDK
good luck in lylo guys, Highroller is either a lying piece of *****, or Sloth has to be a wolf here
or maybe they both are
like Highroller is the only person with unconfirmed Vit-losses, like the only way this is town is if wolves are hiding their Vit-loss in dead people every other day, they can split the vit loss from their KP, or sloth is also full a *****
like there has to be a wolf in highroller/Sloth/Boom
if I am wrong, this game is just too hard anyways
doesn't help that highroller does almost 0 real time literally ever
Cuth/Bur/Highroller/Tubba?
makes very little sense given HR's interactions with Tubba
Cuth/Tubba
definitely fit the bill, because it just feels like Tubba is bussing knowing its not going to even matter, since everyone has condemned me to death
bur is probably a wolf here for OOG reasons, not going to talk about it, no post of his makes me think he is town, his claim is the only saving grace, which still could easily be a red herring
Cuth/Bur/Tubba/x
I have no idea who the x is in that grouping
@Bessie
How do I know this? because I have to either assume that Azreal is 1. an idiot, or 2. griefing us
I'm confused. If Anak's claim is true then that would require Az to be a... bad player with a poor grasp of what information is useful to town and when. Everything I've seen of Azreal points to the opposite.
@Bessie
How do I know this? because I have to either assume that Azreal is 1. an idiot, or 2. griefing us
I'm confused. If Anak's claim is true then that would require Az to be a... bad player with a poor grasp of what information is useful to town and when. Everything I've seen of Azreal points to the opposite.
because he didn't claim it? if u think that makes Anak a wolf, then this game is easy right? what the **** are we doing with our lives?
Azreal is a human being, not a robot, who spent much of the game playing 4d chess
You guys are the ones equating this with stupidity, not me
also how about you know? we actually listen to Azreal's reads, then if that is what you believe?
hmm hmm hmm
so astounding right?
its so astounding to me, that there is still a large group of players, that I can't actually tell if you care about this game
I had an ounce of it when you were being pushed @Boomfrog, and then it just literally died when people stopped caring about you
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@Bessie
How do I know this? because I have to either assume that Azreal is 1. an idiot, or 2. griefing us
I'm confused. If Anak's claim is true then that would require Az to be a... bad player with a poor grasp of what information is useful to town and when. Everything I've seen of Azreal points to the opposite.
because he didn't claim it? if u think that makes Anak a wolf, then this game is easy right? what the **** are we doing with our lives?
Azreal is a human being, not a robot, who spent much of the game playing 4d chess
You guys are the ones equating this with stupidity, not me
also how about you know? we actually listen to Azreal's reads, then if that is what you believe?
hmm hmm hmm
so astounding right?
this game is pissing me off now
It doesn’t make him a wolf, but it doesn’t make him town either. Whereas if Az had claimed it, would pretty well lockTown him. He didn’t and we have to figure out what that means.
1. Az is stupid
2. Ax is trolling us
3. Ax let it slip his mind while focusing on getting other reads out
4. Anak claimed a different role that Az felt good enough about, and wanted to keep it secret
5. Anak’s role allows him some unspecified benefit that he’s left out of his claim
1 doesn’t seem likely, neither does 2. 3 is a good possibility, 4 is a possibility, 5 is tinfoil time, but my point is you can’t just write it off as a given at this point.
Quick post before bed, will have more time the rest of this weekend.
What makes no sense at all is that anyone who thinks I'm somehow scum should just be more than happy to yeet anyone else and let Wisp kill me tonight. Would take out a scum and let Wisp go.
I can't answer why Az never confirmed my ability, but he didn't. He did though also say that I was being set up to take the fall once he flipped town, which he did, and others are indeed pushing that direction. Just saying.
uhhm I can't fathom what goes on in Azreal's head, and regardless of the mechanical information
maybe I just want to believe that Azreal is correct on his read of Anak, maybe that is what I wanna do
Now Anak arguing that new information couldn't possibly help is silly
Anak voting in a way that just feels so like it shouldn't be how you vote the day before lylo
and clearly someone is lying about something, that much we can assume
I have been going through Anak's post and has arguably some terrible thoughts
honestly I'm getting too tired to think right now
I have been going through Anak's wolf and town games, and he clearly has a very good grasp on how to write content regardless of his alignment, which makes this even harder.
so I guess tldr
If Azreal did claim what Anak is stating now, it would very easily make Anak lock town
Quick post before bed, will have more time the rest of this weekend.
What makes no sense at all is that anyone who thinks I'm somehow scum should just be more than happy to yeet anyone else and let Wisp kill me tonight. Would take out a scum and let Wisp go.
I can't answer why Az never confirmed my ability, but he didn't. He did though also say that I was being set up to take the fall once he flipped town, which he did, and others are indeed pushing that direction. Just saying.
ya I don't get it, as much I don't get you claiming, knowing full well you are in the PoE, and would be in the PoE today
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
Really Tammy? I would have claimed it if you'd said I should.
I held onto it partially because no one's claimed to care about Wit except Wisp.
Btw. There's something unrevealed about my role. Something that Tammy doesn't even know. It's literally not relevant right now. Not till lylo.
its so astounding to me, that there is still a large group of players, that I can't actually tell if you care about this game
I had an ounce of it when you were being pushed @Boomfrog, and then it just literally died when people stopped caring about you.
I cared D2. I almost went back and actually read the first chunk of D1. The failed yeet was frustrating but whatever. But D3, the slow languishing wagon in Azreal and then not getting a second yeet or even close was just sad. I'm going to play as best I can, but I'm not going to put a lot of work into saving this game. This is your guys forum, and your guys mess. Not my rodeo, not my clown show.
Quick post before bed, will have more time the rest of this weekend.
What makes no sense at all is that anyone who thinks I'm somehow scum should just be more than happy to yeet anyone else and let Wisp kill me tonight. Would take out a scum and let Wisp go.
I can't answer why Az never confirmed my ability, but he didn't. He did though also say that I was being set up to take the fall once he flipped town, which he did, and others are indeed pushing that direction. Just saying.
Something something a Sith only deals in absolutes.
You are probably correct on all those points, I'm not sold on us needing Wisp to die to win, but sure let's go with it for the moment.
What you are wrong about is that he needed to die immediately. Also, that having Wisp around had no potential benefit to us.
Assuming what you said above is true, Wisp needs to die. Okay cool, one of the biggest benefits of that would have been the wagon leading to his yeet. Seeing who hops on when and how, and what exactly Wisp winds up flipping, would have given us a good bit of info about the game. While also removing someone we (think) needed to be removed. Cool.
I find this hilarious.
LastWhisper: I sill don't understand why Cuth claiming to be roleblocked and my claiming protection from roleblocking townclears Cuth, or makes us linked for that matter.
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
Really Tammy? I would have claimed it if you'd said I should.
I held onto it partially because no one's claimed to care about Wit except Wisp.
Btw. There's something unrevealed about my role. Something that Tammy doesn't even know. It's literally not relevant right now. Not till lylo.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I’m Thymara, Town Dragon Keeper. My flavor is that I’m ugly but my father loves me anyways, and I help other ugly dragons sneak out of the city.
Started off Skill-less, could be used on me but I couldn’t use it (with the exception of Day 3, I used the free Skill to talk to Bur). And with the free vit on Day 3 I was able to pay to “transform” into an Elderling, which now allows me to use the Skill. I also started passively generating vitality. I haven’t spent any of it.
So far there’s only two confirmed town roles that hand out vitality (one apiece, and one is dependent on their target not acting). And it seems like town has no control over whatever Day 3 was, so the roles that need to gain vit to be useful or have more than one shot seem really, really weak to me.
Oh and Cuth can make his own vitality, but it’s not very reliable and he demonstrably is not infested enough in the game to remember to target someone + random roleblock claim.
I’m Thymara, Town Dragon Keeper. My flavor is that I’m ugly but my father loves me anyways, and I help other ugly dragons sneak out of the city.
Started off Skill-less, could be used on me but I couldn’t use it (with the exception of Day 3, I used the free Skill to talk to Bur). And with the free vit on Day 3 I was able to pay to “transform” into an Elderling, which now allows me to use the Skill. I also started passively generating vitality. I haven’t spent any of it.
Evidently, there is no dreaming god, so I dunno if the free vit was a random thing or a scum thing that happened to benefit town.
I think it was a non random built in thing. Like, it was always going to happen D3 no matter what else was going on. Maaaaybe it was triggered by the no yeet but that seems unlikely and bad game design if no one knew that was possible.
Cantripmancer was missing in the morning but his bloody bed-sheets suggest the worst.
He was: Hest - Town Trader
Diplomacy is the velvet glove that cloaks the fist of power.
You are a wealthy trader in Bingtown. Married to Alise, you are generous with your money, allowing her to pursue her love of dragons. You have a narcissistic and jealous streak, but are highly respected in Bingtown society.
You start with 3 Vitality.
Mutually Beneficial: Night Action - You may spend 2V to learn who another target player visits that night. That player gains 1V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now Day 4. With 12 alive majority is 7. The day ends Monday the 25th at 0900 AEDT. Countdown here.
Oh, and it looks like we’re mass claiming?
Ok, I’m Brashen Trell, town first mate, I can spend 2 Vit to learn who visits a player at night. I have no useful results to share.
Uh. Two trackers? I... don't think it's likely that there are two of the same role? Vote Bessie
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I’m Thymara, Town Dragon Keeper. My flavor is that I’m ugly but my father loves me anyways, and I help other ugly dragons sneak out of the city.
Started off Skill-less, could be used on me but I couldn’t use it (with the exception of Day 3, I used the free Skill to talk to Bur). And with the free vit on Day 3 I was able to pay to “transform” into an Elderling, which now allows me to use the Skill. I also started passively generating vitality. I haven’t spent any of it.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Evidently, there is no dreaming god, so I dunno if the free vit was a random thing or a scum thing that happened to benefit town.
I think it was a non random built in thing. Like, it was always going to happen D3 no matter what else was going on. Maaaaybe it was triggered by the no yeet but that seems unlikely and bad game design if no one knew that was possible.
Not a town one anyway.
I proposed a theory to Tammy that it was a scum role, due to the compulsory second vote, but obviously I have no way to prove that.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Cantripmancer was missing in the morning but his bloody bed-sheets suggest the worst.
He was: Hest - Town Trader
Diplomacy is the velvet glove that cloaks the fist of power.
You are a wealthy trader in Bingtown. Married to Alise, you are generous with your money, allowing her to pursue her love of dragons. You have a narcissistic and jealous streak, but are highly respected in Bingtown society.
You start with 3 Vitality.
Mutually Beneficial: Night Action - You may spend 2V to learn who another target player visits that night. That player gains 1V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now Day 4. With 12 alive majority is 7. The day ends Monday the 25th at 0900 AEDT. Countdown here.
Oh, and it looks like we’re mass claiming?
Ok, I’m Brashen Trell, town first mate, I can spend 2 Vit to learn who visits a player at night. I have no useful results to share.
Uh. Two trackers? I... don't think it's likely that there are two of the same role? Vote Bessie
As long as it's not Final 3, yes.
Or at least explicitly say there's something you're not revealing.
There are unrevealed parts of my role.
He’s the last person with original wit. He witted me day two, didn’t want me to tell wisp.
I’m good holding onto people’s claims but not in massclaim when there’s literally no other reason to not claim it than you just don’t want wisp to charm you.
I held onto it partially because no one's claimed to care about Wit except Wisp.
Btw. There's something unrevealed about my role. Something that Tammy doesn't even know. It's literally not relevant right now. Not till lylo.
I missed your response, sorry. Not the forums fault this time ii just only saw your response to bur.
It freaked me almost ur that you were hiding it given I’ve been wondering if all the winters were town.
Also this game is so stacked on Wisp's favor lol
Correct.
Does anyone have, like, an updated list of all the claims? Right now I'm not really getting anything from them that has made the mass claiming at this point, but I also dont even remember most of them.
I'm going on 2 hours of sleep over the last 4 days yay.
I promised myself I would not town read this claim since you didn't claim earlier, so I am not
And yeah, I saw your multiple attempts to get me to claim yesterDay and your assumption that it was necessary. I disagreed, and I was right.
I skill-claimed Tammy in case I died overNight, then you'd have my flip and she'd fill in the blanks. Otherwise I was more or less expecting to claim toDay anyway. I took the necessary steps to make sure my info made it to town no matter what.
Like, you can huff and puff all you want about how claiming yesterDay was the right move but unless you can actually put a reason to the belief, you're just wrong.
Flavorless Mafia on Smashboards (I replaced in and replaced out)
Witchhunt on Smashboards (small 7-player game)
I can provide more games but they are much older and on the Wayback Machine. Let me know if you want more.
But my earlier point still stands, that perhaps this feels like I am a wolf to you because you have played one game with me where I was mafia, and you had not read any other games of mine (town or non-town).
My previous read of Tubba is in post #2507 .
I will revisit this read this weekend. I don’t have a lot of time to play on weekdays; one of the reasons that I agreed to join this game was because of the 48 hour posting minimum which works out well for me. I have more time on weekends.
If Anak’s claim is true. Why are you so sure it is true? Do you really think Azrael wouldn’t claim he knew this when he could still post?
I will say the same thing to you that I said to Vaimes about Tammy in #3273. Are you saying this is out of Anak’s scope? Perhaps he’s a better player than you are giving him credit for.
If Anak’s claim is true, how do you know this?
Oh, and it looks like we’re mass claiming?
Ok, I’m Brashen Trell, town first mate, I can spend 2 Vit to learn who visits a player at night. I have no useful results to share.
@Cuthalion, you forgot to reply to my post #3273,
How do I know this? because I have to either assume that Azreal is 1. an idiot, or 2. griefing us
good luck in lylo guys, Highroller is either a lying piece of *****, or Sloth has to be a wolf here
or maybe they both are
like Highroller is the only person with unconfirmed Vit-losses, like the only way this is town is if wolves are hiding their Vit-loss in dead people every other day, they can split the vit loss from their KP, or sloth is also full a *****
like there has to be a wolf in highroller/Sloth/Boom
if I am wrong, this game is just too hard anyways
doesn't help that highroller does almost 0 real time literally ever
is where I am leaning
stil debating how seriously I believe that Highroller and Cuth have to be linked alignments
makes very little sense given HR's interactions with Tubba
Cuth/Tubba
definitely fit the bill, because it just feels like Tubba is bussing knowing its not going to even matter, since everyone has condemned me to death
bur is probably a wolf here for OOG reasons, not going to talk about it, no post of his makes me think he is town, his claim is the only saving grace, which still could easily be a red herring
Cuth/Bur/Tubba/x
I have no idea who the x is in that grouping
Azreal is a human being, not a robot, who spent much of the game playing 4d chess
You guys are the ones equating this with stupidity, not me
also how about you know? we actually listen to Azreal's reads, then if that is what you believe?
hmm hmm hmm
so astounding right?
this game is pissing me off now
I had an ounce of it when you were being pushed @Boomfrog, and then it just literally died when people stopped caring about you
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1. Az is stupid
2. Ax is trolling us
3. Ax let it slip his mind while focusing on getting other reads out
4. Anak claimed a different role that Az felt good enough about, and wanted to keep it secret
5. Anak’s role allows him some unspecified benefit that he’s left out of his claim
1 doesn’t seem likely, neither does 2. 3 is a good possibility, 4 is a possibility, 5 is tinfoil time, but my point is you can’t just write it off as a given at this point.
What makes no sense at all is that anyone who thinks I'm somehow scum should just be more than happy to yeet anyone else and let Wisp kill me tonight. Would take out a scum and let Wisp go.
I can't answer why Az never confirmed my ability, but he didn't. He did though also say that I was being set up to take the fall once he flipped town, which he did, and others are indeed pushing that direction. Just saying.
maybe I just want to believe that Azreal is correct on his read of Anak, maybe that is what I wanna do
Now Anak arguing that new information couldn't possibly help is silly
Anak voting in a way that just feels so like it shouldn't be how you vote the day before lylo
and clearly someone is lying about something, that much we can assume
I have been going through Anak's post and has arguably some terrible thoughts
honestly I'm getting too tired to think right now
I have been going through Anak's wolf and town games, and he clearly has a very good grasp on how to write content regardless of his alignment, which makes this even harder.
so I guess tldr
If Azreal did claim what Anak is stating now, it would very easily make Anak lock town
There has been a lot of suboptimal play here
Also Killjoy:
I find this hilarious.
LastWhisper: I sill don't understand why Cuth claiming to be roleblocked and my claiming protection from roleblocking townclears Cuth, or makes us linked for that matter.
Started off Skill-less, could be used on me but I couldn’t use it (with the exception of Day 3, I used the free Skill to talk to Bur). And with the free vit on Day 3 I was able to pay to “transform” into an Elderling, which now allows me to use the Skill. I also started passively generating vitality. I haven’t spent any of it.
Vote Bessie
I proposed a theory to Tammy that it was a scum role, due to the compulsory second vote, but obviously I have no way to prove that.
didn't even notice that, nice
Uh. How many years have you two been playing mafia?
Vote: Wisp
You're not trying to help town anymore.