He hasn’t played for ages, so a grain of salt is appropriate.
I think this is town!Iso solving the game.
There’s an easy Iso catch if he’s mafia, but ask me about that in a few Days or I ruin it.
Hm. Noted.
Something about his posts was putting me on edge - I think it was the occasional touches of whimsy he'd add like "I was like 'facesitting whattttt?' lol hashtag relatable!" intermixed with real analysis.
I used to get unreasonably angry with Mafia when people wouldn't just blindly follow me. I'm trying to take a chill pill and enjoy myself, this time around - that was a big part of my semi-retirement.
Ah. Yeah, I can believe that'd probably account for the clumsy attempts at light-heartedness.
Meh, whatev. I like the content and I want to bounce thoughts off of him.
So, do so.
I mean, I tried. Then I took what I assumed was meant as a "I'm not ready to talk about it yet" hint from you and dropped that line of questioning for the time being.
Also bouncing around Cuth thoughts in my head, and I find myself in the peculiar position that I'm not a fan of the way he's putting as little effort into things as possible, which flies in the face of the brief but content-heavy posts I've come to expect from him. However, in all the games that I remember with him, he was actually scum, so the deviation here is...good...?
Someone speak on this with me.
Yeah, this is probably my biggest issue with that player slot, which I noted in my catch-up - I don't remember a single post he's made all game, even since pointing that fact out.
True - the peculiarity I'm referring to is that that might actually be a point in his favor, not against.
But that's like, rewarding laziness at best and letting scum skate at worst, so...no.
What was your meme in 372 intended to communicate?
I want him to be dazzling. Right now he's this game's squishy!Grapefruit, except it doesn't look as charming on him..
Grapefruit...isn't...in...this game...
He's saying that when Grapefruit is acting the way Cuth's acting, it's fine. But when Cuth is, it's not fine.
Which pretty much falls back on what you and I have said on the topic.
Also of note everyone: I currently have a 100 degree fever and flulike symptoms. I'll probably be well enough to give updates without dropping off completely, but I'm just gonna say that I reeeeeeeally hope this isn't COVID. I suspect it's just a cold/flu, but still.
This doesn't even match your catch-up post. Which I remember, because it was mostly good, and I'm not sure what happened between now and then.
Also, stop threatening to daykill CC!
I touched on this earlier and mentioned that I don't agree with everything, but I did see the groundwork he laid that consistently led to this wall, so in what way does this not match up?
Also, what do you mean by "daykill"? Is that your word for yeet?
I went back to check if Chad ever replied to my questions too, but he actually hasn't posted since yesterday. Poor timing. Come back, Chad.
Also bouncing around Cuth thoughts in my head, and I find myself in the peculiar position that I'm not a fan of the way he's putting as little effort into things as possible, which flies in the face of the brief but content-heavy posts I've come to expect from him. However, in all the games that I remember with him, he was actually scum, so the deviation here is...good...?
Someone speak on this with me.
counterpoint: i have a bunch of stuff i need to get done by friday and this is a >two week long phase
also thank you very much i am keeping track of the game and have Thoughts in my head
but they're not that in depth because of gamestate and me being busy elsewhere
and i don't really want to post a lot without depth because i'm definitely gonna want to come back and reread the game closer to EoD and the less time that takes the better in my books
...Eh, fair. Hope you get your stuff done, see you next week.
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Tammy is a villager if she puts maple syrup on waffles and a wolf if she uses anything else
110% on maple. All other choices are incorrect. Gonna need soem selling on the wolf partners. I don’t see anything definitive there, is this a real thought?
Alright guys, I'm not fully caught up I think but just FYI: I'm only going to be around sporadically today and probably not at all over the weekend (will try my best).
When I come back I want to dive into GJ's iso because despite him having my vote I haven't been pushing it, which indicates I miight be running out of steam on that idea - he's been pretty quiet for a while and maybe that's why? But I need to solidify that read.
(this is mostly for me to read as a reminder to myself - sup future sloth, you handsome devil)
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Tammy is a villager if she puts maple syrup on waffles and a wolf if she uses anything else
110% on maple. All other choices are incorrect. Gonna need soem selling on the wolf partners. I don’t see anything definitive there, is this a real thought?
I am pretty sure he thinks maple syrup is the only correct waffle topping.
Which must mean he’s never been to Belgium.
this is shade at everyone not just tubba, i still love you tubba
I love you too, and while I have other scumleans, Wisp was my highest and nothing else as concrete as nigh conf anti-town. Killing town isn’t really neutral in my eyes.
Oh neat, talk about them and why - doesn't have to be solid.
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Vote Wisp
Would you no lynch if there wasn’t an outed neutral on Day 1?
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Vote Wisp
Would you no lynch if there wasn’t an outed neutral on Day 1?
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
If that’s your take on Day1, then why is lynching the plus town play?
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Tammy is a villager if she puts maple syrup on waffles and a wolf if she uses anything else
110% on maple. All other choices are incorrect. Gonna need soem selling on the wolf partners. I don’t see anything definitive there, is this a real thought?
I am pretty sure he thinks maple syrup is the only correct waffle topping.
Which must mean he’s never been to Belgium.
Sadly, I have not. As a Canadian, I’m pretty sure they revoke your citizenship if you don’t go full pro-maple, and I need the healthcare.
Sorry, something broke in me yesterday. Working on catching up.
I like Iso, I dislike Az. Iso feels super solvey so far, even if I am not sold on CC being wolfy.
Az, from my bird brain memory of his posts felt really consensus. He also seems weirdly giddy which feels so out of character for him, but that is probably nai.
Wisp is bothering me for some reason, but I can't really put my finger on why. I will try to explore that when I have less work in front of me.
Why? You've answered this. I haven't played with Wisp as much as you, sure, but I don't remember there a claim as out-there as this one.
Btw, your ISO is barren, just commentary. Do you have anything to say?
On Wisp specifically, what is your read on him? Seems "scum" but want to confirm.
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Vote Wisp
Would you no lynch if there wasn’t an outed neutral on Day 1?
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
If that’s your take on Day1, then why is lynching the plus town play?
Beachse we need as much information as we can get to better inform our decisions moving forward. I’d rather remove a known entity even if it means less overall information for town than misreadingsomeone and being down two town at day 2 start.
And that’s where I don’t believe you tubba.
How does lynching a neutral (and you said you believe he is a neutral) give us any information to work with toMorrow?
Hot take: if Tubba is town, then Vaimes, Silver, Tammy and Cuthalion are all town for not jumping on tubba. Because mafia would not pass up a chance to attack a town that is going all in on the neutral.
(If Tubba is mafia, which I think is more likely, then that sadly means nothing for the above mentioned people)
And that’s where I don’t believe you tubba.
How does lynching a neutral (and you said you believe he is a neutral) give us any information to work with toMorrow?
Hot take: if Tubba is town, then Vaimes, Silver, Tammy and Cuthalion are all town for not jumping on tubba. Because mafia would not pass up a chance to attack a town that is going all in on the neutral.
(If Tubba is mafia, which I think is more likely, then that sadly means nothing for the above mentioned people)
vote Tubba
It doesn’t, and I referenced that. I’d rather hit conf antitown day one and sacrifice some information than have two dead townies at day 2 start. Frankly if this is the kind of reception one can expect, I shan’t be visiting Belgium anytime soon. Seriously though, did you miss that? Also you are asking me hypotheticals in a situation that is past them. That’s what I would do if there was no claim, hold my nose and hope for the best. In this case I know I can hit anti-town, which keeps more town alive longer. That is the better line in my eyes.
@GJ
Leave me alone u meanie
At least if I don't/can't win cause of my claim I will still do my best to find Mafia, I am kinda regretting hitting cuth, might hold up on the vit drain like since he asked nicely, and I'm not really feeling him
I think dead villagers are worth more info than any sort of Day-1-neutral wagon. You get the wagon and kill info, whereas with a neutral you only get Night stuff. Being overly protective of villagers right now when there’s ~16 of us is silly.
And that’s where I don’t believe you tubba.
How does lynching a neutral (and you said you believe he is a neutral) give us any information to work with toMorrow?
Hot take: if Tubba is town, then Vaimes, Silver, Tammy and Cuthalion are all town for not jumping on tubba. Because mafia would not pass up a chance to attack a town that is going all in on the neutral.
(If Tubba is mafia, which I think is more likely, then that sadly means nothing for the above mentioned people)
vote Tubba
It doesn’t, and I referenced that. I’d rather hit conf antitown day one and sacrifice some information than have two dead townies at day 2 start. Frankly if this is the kind of reception one can expect, I shan’t be visiting Belgium anytime soon. Seriously though, did you miss that? Also you are asking me hypotheticals in a situation that is past them. That’s what I would do if there was no claim, hold my nose and hope for the best. In this case I know I can hit anti-town, which keeps more town alive longer. That is the better line in my eyes.
You’ll have to point me to that reference because I am not seeing it.
I think dead villagers are worth more info than any sort of Day-1-neutral wagon. You get the wagon and kill info, whereas with a neutral you only get Night stuff. Being overly protective of villagers right now when there’s ~16 of us is silly.
Rip I can’t do math, subtract the self (in theory), subtract the mafia, subtract the neutral. ~12
@GJ
Leave me alone u meanie
At least if I don't/can't win cause of my claim I will still do my best to find Mafia, I am kinda regretting hitting cuth, might hold up on the vit drain like since he asked nicely, and I'm not really feeling him
Why wouldn't you hit me, if you think I am that bad?
I don't get the Tubba hate. I kind of agree with him. and think it also reads genuine. Every time I see a town try to work with a neutral, I get Vietnam flashbacks of Xyer's game of neutrals and how willing the town is willing to accommodate him.
@GJ
Leave me alone u meanie
At least if I don't/can't win cause of my claim I will still do my best to find Mafia, I am kinda regretting hitting cuth, might hold up on the vit drain like since he asked nicely, and I'm not really feeling him
Why wouldn't you hit me, if you think I am that bad?
I don't think you are "that" bad, I do think you have some good posts and bad posts, bad posts which can be chopped down to personality rather than alignment
I tagged Cuth prematurely, I think it had something to do with his first post, plus like tagging someone that has heat is kinda pointless
Right, but you have no way of knowing if I am one of yo[center]ur targets, regardless of my alignment. Even from your perspective where I am town, what if I am one of your targets (I highly doubt it for flavor reasons), would it not be in your best interest to get flips, especially from players that have bad reads? By your own admission, you probably have town targets so wouldn't my flip make more sense for you, as long as you get a piece?
Rhand- what’s the difference between tuba and high roller who iirc is also going all in on the 3p?
That I’ve been semi reading during work and didn’t see what Highroller did?
I’ll look back.
You’re right. He is all in.
His conviction that Wisp needs to die feels real though.
@GJ you like no lynching. You come from a different mindset than tubba does who is convinced lynching for info is the pro town thing to do D1.
Tubba claims he wants to lynch the 3P because he had no other reads. But he also doesn’t explore other reads.
I'm not going to tag people that have a chance of dying via lunch that is silly, I was literally pushing you, and honestly you thinking tubba sounds genuine is gross, I don't care much about your rhand read since I honestly can't read him,so that's w/e
I don't know how people can't see I lack tmi when my wolf game is literally garbage lol
wisp claiming there as that role also has the upside of outing probably multiple people who have low vitality scores and thus don't have the witted thing or whatevs
whether that's town-sided or not is perhaps another conversation
I was trending down on them leading up to the claim, which prompted a reread. that coupled with Cuth more or less confirming Whisp's ability mkaes me pretty sure theyre telling most of the truth. I still dont understand the rationale behind the claim/timing and i dont like it as a game choice, but theyre Whisp's cards tp play. The scumminess can be attributed to them not really caring who gets voted and it's just being flip. Im with Highroller on RFtG'ing there, its confirmed non-town on day 1, which is historically a crap shooy otherwise. The argu,emt that they can hit scum is meh for me, they dont know who tjey need to hit so shooting randomly hits town more than scum. (Call back to the MathLords) If Cuth is town, he could lose 4 vitality tonight. if 7 vit is highe end, 4 could kill a mutha. So while I don't think Widp is scum anymore, I dont have another scum read that im more sure on.
Vote Wisp
Would you no lynch if there wasn’t an outed neutral on Day 1?
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
If that’s your take on Day1, then why is lynching the plus town play?
Beachse we need as much information as we can get to better inform our decisions moving forward. I’d rather remove a known entity even if it means less overall information for town than misreadingsomeone and being down two town at day 2 start.
That, I know that it’s hard to read my stuff because of this thrice damned thumb. Vaimes makes a good point regarding wagons as additional info, but I still think I’m right. We don’t need to accidentally hit town, we do need to remove Wisp (at some point, granted). Worst case scenario, we vote out town, we lose town to nk and we lose town to Wisp (assuming Cuth town). Alternatively, Wisp dies, we lose one town to nk and have marginally less info for day 2. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m not ridiculously wrong.
Rhand- what’s the difference between tuba and high roller who iirc is also going all in on the 3p?
That I’ve been semi reading during work and didn’t see what Highroller did?
I’ll look back.
You’re right. He is all in.
His conviction that Wisp needs to die feels real though.
@GJ you like no lynching. You come from a different mindset than tubba does who is convinced lynching for info is the pro town thing to do D1.
Tubba claims he wants to lynch the 3P because he had no other reads. But he also doesn’t explore other reads.
Me no lynching was a half joke/half serious. The joke part was it to be the opposite of our Day 1 someone always asks for a massclaim. The serious part was that we do a lot of closed set-ups, so allowing a cop a free check with no interference can be a big boon.
Tubbas never been a wide reaching player, and I wolf read him a lot for simliar reasons. I can look in a second if you don't know, but how was he reading Wisp before the claim?
Would you no lynch if there wasn’t an outed neutral on Day 1?
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
If that’s your take on Day1, then why is lynching the plus town play?
Beachse we need as much information as we can get to better inform our decisions moving forward. I’d rather remove a known entity even if it means less overall information for town than misreadingsomeone and being down two town at day 2 start.
That, I know that it’s hard to read my stuff because of this thrice damned thumb. Vaimes makes a good point regarding wagons as additional info, but I still think I’m right. We don’t need to accidentally hit town, we do need to remove Wisp (at some point, granted). Worst case scenario, we vote out town, we lose town to nk and we lose town to Wisp (assuming Cuth town). Alternatively, Wisp dies, we lose one town to nk and have marginally less info for day 2. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m not ridiculously wrong.
I don't agree with his read on you, but the one thing I do agree with is you aren't really pushing or hunting anyone else.
I'm not really hunting for wolves, so if you're gonna try to wolf read me for "not hunting" on day 1 you might as well cut to the chase like Iso did
I'm gonna find a bunch of people I'm pretty sure are villagers so the wolves are in a tiny box from which they cannot escape
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Tubba is probably a villager; I don't think I want to kill wisp, though, with the understanding that that means he should be allowed to achieve his wincon and not exiled closer to exile-or-lose because we need to hit wolves
I'm not really hunting for wolves, so if you're gonna try to wolf read me for "not hunting" on day 1 you might as well cut to the chase like Iso did
I'm gonna find a bunch of people I'm pretty sure are villagers so the wolves are in a tiny box from which they cannot escape
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Tubba is probably a villager; I don't think I want to kill wisp, though, with the understanding that that means he should be allowed to achieve his wincon and not exiled closer to exile-or-lose because we need to hit wolves
Meh not so sure what to think about tubba anymore. Still thinking likely scum but my main reason crumbled.
@GJ Wisp is all he talked about.
About the Wisp situation itself: finding mafia should be our focus. Wisp’s ability is visible with the charms, which weakens him a lot. He can’t target consensus townreads so he basically has no choice but to play pro town.
If we don’t find mafia in let’s say the first 2-3 Days, we can’t afford to keep him around and we yeet him. If we get ahead, there’s no reason to get rid of him.
That argument Highroller used that our wincon says to eliminate all anti-town doesn’t hold up with Wisp because he can leave the game. Eliminating him is not a necessity.
I'm not really hunting for wolves, so if you're gonna try to wolf read me for "not hunting" on day 1 you might as well cut to the chase like Iso did
I'm gonna find a bunch of people I'm pretty sure are villagers so the wolves are in a tiny box from which they cannot escape
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Tubba is probably a villager; I don't think I want to kill wisp, though, with the understanding that that means he should be allowed to achieve his wincon and not exiled closer to exile-or-lose because we need to hit wolves
I'm not really hunting for wolves, so if you're gonna try to wolf read me for "not hunting" on day 1 you might as well cut to the chase like Iso did
I'm gonna find a bunch of people I'm pretty sure are villagers so the wolves are in a tiny box from which they cannot escape
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Tubba is probably a villager; I don't think I want to kill wisp, though, with the understanding that that means he should be allowed to achieve his wincon and not exiled closer to exile-or-lose because we need to hit wolves
I mean, I tried. Then I took what I assumed was meant as a "I'm not ready to talk about it yet" hint from you and dropped that line of questioning for the time being.
True - the peculiarity I'm referring to is that that might actually be a point in his favor, not against.
But that's like, rewarding laziness at best and letting scum skate at worst, so...no.
He's saying that when Grapefruit is acting the way Cuth's acting, it's fine. But when Cuth is, it's not fine.
Which pretty much falls back on what you and I have said on the topic.
Alright, sure - what's up?
(Also I have the second highest post count so far, 5 posts? boo.)
Also, what do you mean by "daykill"? Is that your word for yeet?
Lol what. Did you seriously not know?
Can you explain what you meant here:
When I come back I want to dive into GJ's iso because despite him having my vote I haven't been pushing it, which indicates I miight be running out of steam on that idea - he's been pretty quiet for a while and maybe that's why? But I need to solidify that read.
(this is mostly for me to read as a reminder to myself - sup future sloth, you handsome devil)
I am pretty sure he thinks maple syrup is the only correct waffle topping.
Which must mean he’s never been to Belgium.
No, I don’t think no lynch is a plus town play. I feel that day one resolves largely to a shot in the dark, with a greater average of hitting town. I hate day one, there’s not enough information to make a decision I feel good about.
If that’s your take on Day1, then why is lynching the plus town play?
I like Iso, I dislike Az. Iso feels super solvey so far, even if I am not sold on CC being wolfy.
Az, from my bird brain memory of his posts felt really consensus. He also seems weirdly giddy which feels so out of character for him, but that is probably nai.
Wisp is bothering me for some reason, but I can't really put my finger on why. I will try to explore that when I have less work in front of me.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
How does lynching a neutral (and you said you believe he is a neutral) give us any information to work with toMorrow?
Hot take: if Tubba is town, then Vaimes, Silver, Tammy and Cuthalion are all town for not jumping on tubba. Because mafia would not pass up a chance to attack a town that is going all in on the neutral.
(If Tubba is mafia, which I think is more likely, then that sadly means nothing for the above mentioned people)
vote Tubba
It doesn’t, and I referenced that. I’d rather hit conf antitown day one and sacrifice some information than have two dead townies at day 2 start. Frankly if this is the kind of reception one can expect, I shan’t be visiting Belgium anytime soon. Seriously though, did you miss that? Also you are asking me hypotheticals in a situation that is past them. That’s what I would do if there was no claim, hold my nose and hope for the best. In this case I know I can hit anti-town, which keeps more town alive longer. That is the better line in my eyes.
Leave me alone u meanie
At least if I don't/can't win cause of my claim I will still do my best to find Mafia, I am kinda regretting hitting cuth, might hold up on the vit drain like since he asked nicely, and I'm not really feeling him
You’ll have to point me to that reference because I am not seeing it.
Why wouldn't you hit me, if you think I am that bad?
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That I’ve been semi reading during work and didn’t see what Highroller did?
I’ll look back.
Rhands been downtrending for me as well.
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I tagged Cuth prematurely, I think it had something to do with his first post, plus like tagging someone that has heat is kinda pointless
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Rhand saying "the town circle are villagers for not jumping on Tubba" doesn't exactly strike me as uh, risky on d1 if he's a wolf
Like that's a list of players I expect to be night killed at some point anyway (well, and me)
By day 3 or 4 or whatever when one of those players has an actual chance of being voted off he can just say "lolday1reads" or something
You’re right. He is all in.
His conviction that Wisp needs to die feels real though.
@GJ you like no lynching. You come from a different mindset than tubba does who is convinced lynching for info is the pro town thing to do D1.
Tubba claims he wants to lynch the 3P because he had no other reads. But he also doesn’t explore other reads.
I don't know how people can't see I lack tmi when my wolf game is literally garbage lol
whether that's town-sided or not is perhaps another conversation
That, I know that it’s hard to read my stuff because of this thrice damned thumb. Vaimes makes a good point regarding wagons as additional info, but I still think I’m right. We don’t need to accidentally hit town, we do need to remove Wisp (at some point, granted). Worst case scenario, we vote out town, we lose town to nk and we lose town to Wisp (assuming Cuth town). Alternatively, Wisp dies, we lose one town to nk and have marginally less info for day 2. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m not ridiculously wrong.
Me no lynching was a half joke/half serious. The joke part was it to be the opposite of our Day 1 someone always asks for a massclaim. The serious part was that we do a lot of closed set-ups, so allowing a cop a free check with no interference can be a big boon.
Tubbas never been a wide reaching player, and I wolf read him a lot for simliar reasons. I can look in a second if you don't know, but how was he reading Wisp before the claim?
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I don't agree with his read on you, but the one thing I do agree with is you aren't really pushing or hunting anyone else.
Give me a top 3, bottom 3 excluding Wisp.
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This feels like commentary, not hunting.
What's your take on Tubba?
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I'm not really hunting for wolves, so if you're gonna try to wolf read me for "not hunting" on day 1 you might as well cut to the chase like Iso did
I'm gonna find a bunch of people I'm pretty sure are villagers so the wolves are in a tiny box from which they cannot escape
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Tubba is probably a villager; I don't think I want to kill wisp, though, with the understanding that that means he should be allowed to achieve his wincon and not exiled closer to exile-or-lose because we need to hit wolves
this is the way
@GJ Wisp is all he talked about.
About the Wisp situation itself: finding mafia should be our focus. Wisp’s ability is visible with the charms, which weakens him a lot. He can’t target consensus townreads so he basically has no choice but to play pro town.
If we don’t find mafia in let’s say the first 2-3 Days, we can’t afford to keep him around and we yeet him. If we get ahead, there’s no reason to get rid of him.
That argument Highroller used that our wincon says to eliminate all anti-town doesn’t hold up with Wisp because he can leave the game. Eliminating him is not a necessity.
The way to get people to quit mafia, I agree.
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