@rhand
I can actually, it would put me in a spot that makes it relatively hard for wolves or the SK to resolve me any time soon
@terry
Ok I'll reread your posts when I am free
What do you think of Kpacas slot, who is possibly just pocketing you if you are town, which is effectively my reasons for saying you guys aren't w/w
@Rodemy
our town vig was probably Jackrito, so talk to me about, "Town shooting me"
you think Fonti's team killed me, after how pocketed I was?
do you think Mafia have two different KP?
do you think town has another killing role?
if not, then mafia just killed me, plain and simple
my interpretation of the n1 kills was:
fonti scum factional kill 99%
ZDS jack kill 100%
wisp ???, but given the fact that at least one carrow was an alt-cycle poisoner i had assumed that the other one was symmetrical, which led me to believe that this was a scum vig
either way, fonti and wisp kills were antitown factions, ZDS was jack
God damnit rhand come back and tell us what tubba meant.
Rhand already denied doing anything.
Indeed.
I’m just gonna claim because this tom riddle thing is becoming too much of a distraction and Rodemy seems to have a guilty on someone.
I was Jugson, a 2-shot NK doc. I didn’t use my ability N1 because I wasn’t caught up and didn’t want to throw a shot away.
A dark mark would make my protection more secure, which I guess means protection vs the SK’s.
when wisp died, I became tom riddle. I gained 1 mark that same Night, 2 EoD 2 and 1 N2. I gave one to Rodemy.
My ability has upgraded since Day 2 start: When I give a mark to someone, their target(s) get one too.
So basically I know LW is town because his role jumped to me. Which means that if Rodemy knows of another riddle, that’s the one that tubba jumped to.
@Fulcrum
This is a quick post while I have wifi.
People I think are good
Fulcrum
Last
Ampharos
Rod
People I think are bad
Konami
ZDS
XxxtentacionMeUpxxx
Sloth?
Poison?
People I’m not sure about
Goo
Alpaca
Terraine
Tom
People I forgot about and thus have no opinion on yet
The Rest
Ask me about these and I will do my best to answer when I get internet back or can trick my wife that what I’m doing on my phone isn’t affecting our data.
can we talk about this readslist, btw?
the townreads pile is (arguably) the four most consensus villagers in the thread, now that wisp is looking townier. fonti is the only one of these that he really ever talked about in his iso, at all. wisp he gave "mild townpoints" to once and then never mentions again. he speaks to rodemy once, but never about him, and he never talks to or about me at all, so i have no idea why i'm there unless he's just sheeping consensus
the wolfreads pile is:
- a person who put some mild pressure on him, and is also emerging as one of the leading wagons
- the other leading wagon
- the strangest and lowest-content poster in the thread
- a person who recently started being cased in a fairly high-profile manner
- a player who literally subbed out before he made this post
the nullpile appears to just be "people i remembered are in the game but don't wanna put in townreads", which
i guess the crux of the whole entire list is that there's almost no work put into it. there's a legitimate townread on fonti (which spews her v if tubba is a wolf, so that's neat) and barely anything on anything else. he spends all this effort pressuring tom and then unceremoniously dumps him in "people i'm not sure about" - which, like, sure, but you'd think after making such a big deal about pressuring tom out of gifstage, you'd at least think a bit more about his alignment?
and the wolfreads are just... zero effort whatsoever. 1 consensus wagon, 2 rising wagons, and 2 0-posters, or close enough to 0-posters as to be a distinction without a difference. he never talks about any of these people, or interacts with any of them, save for like 2 *****posty interactions with sloth. i just struggle to believe that he actually has any of these reads, because the fonti read is legitimately a good read! i think he's capable of making good reads! and that just makes the lack of others stand out all the more
iso him yourself if you don't believe me - it's 17 short posts, it takes 2 seconds to look through and confirm what i'm talking about
i'm not voting tubba off of this post. i recognize that tubba's claimed to be having conflicts irl leading to inactivity, and i think that's a feasible explanation for underthinking things, but that's not something to just leave alone and never touch.
tubba, if you're town, i want to find you. i want to connect with you, to see the villager mindset, to see you looking for wolves and trying to make the right vote, rather than just posting out of obligation and trying to survive. i want to know, just really briefly, why you're scumreading the people you're scumreading. help me help you.
@Wisp this is the one
kept trying to wagon him after this cause he never got townier imo lol
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
fmpov townlist is confirmed 4 not-wolves if you clear rod
scumlist is confirmed 4 villagers if you clear rhand, with WMU the odd person out (and i hear she might be peeked? something for me to look into later)
unsure list has two people i wouldn't PoE today (lagoon/tom) and two question marks
the unlisted players are orange, triss, bananas, joeterry, and jack - so 2 confirmed town and 3 ???s
i had in my notes last night that i thought it was likely there was exactly 1 wolf in terraine/sloth, and that terraine was more likely based off interactions with tubba - there was some moderately distancey stuff in there that i wasn't a fan of - so i think that's quite possibly 1
kpaca i have as not-w/w with terraine off a very specific interaction regarding tubba that i can pull on request
if we assume terr is a wolf and kpaca's a villager that leaves 2 in [orange/joe/triss], and g2h i think orange pointing out the tubba-rhand ***** is less likely to come from a partner, so... easy game?
==mech clear, or close enough==
Lastwhisper
Rodemy
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (if peeked)
Rhand
==not in my PoE==
tomsloger
gooLagoon=
==PoE, less likely==
orangeandblack5
Starling
==PoE, more likely==
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Trisscar
TerRaine
==axelrod==
Axelrod
my preferred starting point based solely off the above is terr
##Vote: TerRaine
not opposed to wagoning triss, either, and could probably be swayed to axelrod
tubba's "what did you do last night" to rhand was preceded by questions on his opinion regarding fonti and myself
in light of rhand's claim of his original role, and considering fonti and i's positioning in the thread d1, i can't help but wonder if there was some sort of scum rolecop result on rhand that tubba was going to try to use to shade him
if anyone became tom riddle off wisp's death and hasn't done so yet, they need to counterclaim NOW
otherwise i'm assuming that wisp->rhand is confirmed and that both are town
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
fmpov i have myself, rod, rhand, wisp as 100% confirmed villagers, plus WMU if she's peeked
if i throw in tom/lagoon i literally only need to find one more for the solve, or two if axel's bull*****ting
think we're in a pretty good spot here
Just to clarify. You'll have to read Sloth's posts yourself, because there is nothing glaring about a cop crumb anywhere as far as I could tell. Me saying that it might have been WMU was because Sloth's defense of WMU didn't make sense to me, but I was pretty anti-WMU at the time so I could have been biased. Sloth did vote Tubba pretty quickly out of the gate too.
Yeah, unfortunately, there's no way Sloth was hinting at a Town result on WMU.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
sigh ok i'll check for myself but consider it noted
guess that would be too much to hope for heh
joe do you have any other thoughts regarding any of the ***** i've posted? you're pretty firmly in my PoE rn, i honestly expected a stronger reaction
lagoon it's time to stop being so sidelinesy btw. gimme some reads boss
But I don't waaaaannaaaaa.
Whining aside, I believe that Rhand and Wisp are town. WMU I was kind of just shelving because Wisp asked everyone to. I'm fine with you. My only real gripe with orange was looking like he was protecting scum!Sloth but that's no longer relevant. I believe Axel.
Once per game, as a Night action, you may target a player. Choose between killing, redirecting, and blocking that player. For each mode that you don't choose, there is a 25% chance of that mode occurring instead of the mode you chose.
Bolded votes were bad votes. Straling hadn't even finished reading at that point and TerRaine's was a pretty assertive hammer w/no explanation. I'm going back to check a couple other details, but...
@LW: Starlings vote on DB was so bad, that I may have to comes to term with having been potentially pocketed by KPACA.
Good game guys. I’ll catch you on the flip side.
Ahh ok
I can actually, it would put me in a spot that makes it relatively hard for wolves or the SK to resolve me any time soon
@terry
Ok I'll reread your posts when I am free
What do you think of Kpacas slot, who is possibly just pocketing you if you are town, which is effectively my reasons for saying you guys aren't w/w
- i'm not poisoned
- operating off the assumption that tubba was scum riddle, which would make wisp town riddle
- rhand probably spewed clear based off above
reading up brb
i had a pretty decent PoE going into today, i'll pull it when i'm done reading
we're at 8-3-1-1 if axelrod is by himself, or 9-3-1 if he's scum/carrow fakeclaiming
tomsloger
orangeandblack5
Starling
TerRaine
gooLagoon
Ampharos
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Trisscar
That’s our scum pile. I wanna throw axel in there too but **** idk.
whoever raised last needs to claim now.
Why would town raise him? Nobody really thought he was town enough to come back, so who did it and why?
it's in my iso, gimme a sec
my interpretation of the n1 kills was:
fonti scum factional kill 99%
ZDS jack kill 100%
wisp ???, but given the fact that at least one carrow was an alt-cycle poisoner i had assumed that the other one was symmetrical, which led me to believe that this was a scum vig
either way, fonti and wisp kills were antitown factions, ZDS was jack
bad votes, move those. he's not in the PoE
Rhand/Rodemy/Wisp all clear. game's easy
intentionally remaining ambiguous on whether or not this is a vanilla claim so don't ask
@Wisp this is the one
kept trying to wagon him after this cause he never got townier imo lol
I was under the impression that Last was revived automatically, due to his role, not that someone res'd him. That's how I understood his post anyway.
Are you asking for us all to claim? I definitely can but I'm unsure of what a mass claim will do to help
I don’t see how this helps at all.
fmpov townlist is confirmed 4 not-wolves if you clear rod
scumlist is confirmed 4 villagers if you clear rhand, with WMU the odd person out (and i hear she might be peeked? something for me to look into later)
unsure list has two people i wouldn't PoE today (lagoon/tom) and two question marks
the unlisted players are orange, triss, bananas, joeterry, and jack - so 2 confirmed town and 3 ???s
i had in my notes last night that i thought it was likely there was exactly 1 wolf in terraine/sloth, and that terraine was more likely based off interactions with tubba - there was some moderately distancey stuff in there that i wasn't a fan of - so i think that's quite possibly 1
kpaca i have as not-w/w with terraine off a very specific interaction regarding tubba that i can pull on request
if we assume terr is a wolf and kpaca's a villager that leaves 2 in [orange/joe/triss], and g2h i think orange pointing out the tubba-rhand ***** is less likely to come from a partner, so... easy game?
==mech clear, or close enough==
Lastwhisper
Rodemy
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (if peeked)
Rhand
==not in my PoE==
tomsloger
gooLagoon=
==PoE, less likely==
orangeandblack5
Starling
==PoE, more likely==
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Trisscar
TerRaine
==axelrod==
Axelrod
my preferred starting point based solely off the above is terr
##Vote: TerRaine
not opposed to wagoning triss, either, and could probably be swayed to axelrod
Intentionally remaining ambiguous on whether or not this is a vanilla claim so don't ask.
his role doesn’t state anywhere that he can be rezzed.
A mass claim will help me choose where to shoot my shot. Idk man I’m trying not to die but probably will
stepping away for a moment
what is peeked?
okay what did I miss?
so his n1 check is probably either tubba w or wmu v
tubba's "what did you do last night" to rhand was preceded by questions on his opinion regarding fonti and myself
in light of rhand's claim of his original role, and considering fonti and i's positioning in the thread d1, i can't help but wonder if there was some sort of scum rolecop result on rhand that tubba was going to try to use to shade him
if anyone became tom riddle off wisp's death and hasn't done so yet, they need to counterclaim NOW
otherwise i'm assuming that wisp->rhand is confirmed and that both are town
if i throw in tom/lagoon i literally only need to find one more for the solve, or two if axel's bull*****ting
think we're in a pretty good spot here
will get back to you
also pondering if we should force axel to claim angel target on threat of death
thoughts on this second possibility would be welcome
Which is kinda what scum rhand and whisp would want. So like, maybe the tubba Voldemort should also claim.
If you can't keep your posts civil, step away from the thread.
If you can't keep OGI out of your posts, you shouldn't be playing mafia.
You have been warned.
guess that would be too much to hope for heh
joe do you have any other thoughts regarding any of the ***** i've posted? you're pretty firmly in my PoE rn, i honestly expected a stronger reaction
lagoon it's time to stop being so sidelinesy btw. gimme some reads boss
unless he's the one who shot sloth
in which case oops
rod just to confirm, you didn't have a night action until today?
Whining aside, I believe that Rhand and Wisp are town. WMU I was kind of just shelving because Wisp asked everyone to. I'm fine with you. My only real gripe with orange was looking like he was protecting scum!Sloth but that's no longer relevant. I believe Axel.
Leaves a poe of Triss, JT, Ter, Star, tom.
Once per game, as a Night action, you may target a player. Choose between killing, redirecting, and blocking that player. For each mode that you don't choose, there is a 25% chance of that mode occurring instead of the mode you chose.
This was a bad look:
deadbananas (8) - tomsloger, Slothful, Ampharos, Jackrito, Rhand, Rodemy, Starling, TerRaine
Bolded votes were bad votes. Straling hadn't even finished reading at that point and TerRaine's was a pretty assertive hammer w/no explanation. I'm going back to check a couple other details, but...
@LW: Starlings vote on DB was so bad, that I may have to comes to term with having been potentially pocketed by KPACA.
/confirm
vote TerRaine
I trust Amy. Remind me to slap myself at this point if I am wrong.
I’ll take Tom ter and star as scum for $1000, Alex.
I'll claim not vanilla. My night action is completely self protecting and I'm as good at using it as I am with reads it seems.