What I want to point out is the interaction with tubba here. He accuses him of wanting to lynch 3p (which is fine), but hands him the counter-argument he needs in the same breath.
This is never town talking. Either he wants to help his buddy get out of a situation by being the first to talk about it and handing him a way out, or it’s scum knowing they’re falsely accusing town.
Isn't that what scumchat is for/why would scum give potential mislynches a way out in their initial accusation
I don't think this is anywhere near as scum-indicative as you paint it
I am still here but haven’t been machine guns posting because I wanted to be able to have a discussion of why I don’t care to super explain reads from a post made from a computer and I’m still on a phone but also I don’t want to fall off so be prepared for an abridged version of that sorry.
I still expect more from you but everybody else seems to be completely ambivalent towards my case so I guess you've likely got the extra day before I'll come calling for that rain check
If I die this is absolutely the slot I want everybody to re-evaluate though
I think this setup has just made a lot of us lose intrest tbh. I feel that way and just burned the hell out tbh which started during the team game but I hid it by just copying my team's reads. So atm I'm just coasting off shooting a town because it was counter wagon which has got me town read heavy, which is a bit crazy lol. I don't have scum hunting motivation which I should be as a town read for most though so just hoping something clicks soon.
To be fair, I did consider it. I haven't completely made up my mind what's more likely: if, as town, you shoot another townie and come clean (perhaps unnecessarily as of D2?) and paint a target on your back; or if, as scum, you decide to sacrifice a possible ML in order to claim and townfirm you.
Still, I'm leaning towards the town-world for small reasons.
Also, this post helps in that line of thinking. I'm also feeling that burnout - earlier I brought up your volume, but now I've realized it's most of us: We've gone from pages of content d1 to a little over 1 page d2 in ISOs.
I think we should maybe have a rule that Day phases can't last more than 5 days tops. But I digress.
Going back to my early scum read from day one, this goes against a earlier post today where I said I was liking SLoth more, but something about him still feels off to me. I say this full in the knowledge that I did just mis kill him in another game. I just don't like his wall posts and it is killing my wim big time which is already dead, add that to him saying he has no motivation himself but still does them just feels so off to me and does not feel real. I just feel a lot of his posts look good on surface but really do nothing. I should really iso him to see if this is true or not because I could be being overly harsh and I feel bad voting him for trying a lot when I am not. but going with my gut on this to a degree for now.
You misexec'd me in another game? which one?
The demotivation is real. I don't lie about feelings. The walls are my attempt to beat it back - perhaps that's why they do don't seem like they do nothing to you?
Anyway, your gut is wrong on this, and I'd be willing to talk to you about it more. I can't address vague thoughts like "feels off" or "does not feel real", so if you do end up having things you want to press me on, I'm around.
What is it with your questions this game? You never seem to just ask a question and wait for an answer. Every other question has you explaining why your asking it and its leading and weird as hell.
Truth be told I don’t know what I was expecting. I was applying a different kind of pressure to see what came of it. It didn’t lead anywhere and no one else seemed to see issue so I moved on. Your question only has an answer if I’m omniscient and know exactly how every pressure I put out there is going to be responded to.
This is the problem I come back to on this: I'm looking for meaning in your actions, and you yourself don't seem to be actually considering them before or after.
Why do this? Well, maybe there'll be some sort of response, but no expectation to what it is or intent behind it to solve the game, just "get a response"
Honestly in a later post you respond like it's stupid for me to ask after "insight" on you asking me about Rod. You say that the insight you got is my answer.
That is not what insight is. My answer is the information. The insight is what conclusions you draw based on the information.
It's the difference between putting 144 divided by 3 in the calculator and knowing the answer is 48 versus actually doing the math and understanding what the answer means and how to get there.
This is what I see lacking in your posts. It's like your doing random things with no direction and your answers show that.
Ayup. That's why I stopped and why Sloth gets a minor jab for stirring it back up again. He knows me well enough that this is far from me sniping at him
I mean I didn't live this but fmpov this seems kinda like you're seeing in his questions of me what you were already expecting to see
As the person on the receiving end I will fully admit that someone of either alignment could ask those questions but in this gamestate (where he is literally the only one actually pressing me for content) I just don't see much reason for scum t om to do so
Especially as he doesn't actually know me that well to be afraid of me - if by stumble you mean one of his partners flipped their ***** when I replaced in and so he's looked into me more than he "should" have, I could maybe see that, but in that case I don't think there's any good reason scum!t om would go out of his way to say he's been in more games with me than he actually has been on purpose (also why I don't think it's a pocket attempt) and even if that was an accident you'd think he'd choose to be more careful with me in that case
I'm not sure "able to explain your single-minded reads to a vague degree of competency" is where I'm comfortable setting the bar
Sure, but it was enough for d1. I'm trying to reconcile this ZDS-read GOTCHA post of yours about Kpaca in my mind, not sure I follow what you were trying to say. @Orange: btw, lagoon didn't exactly claim, he asked that he's not targeted at Night, citing an ability that 'cause problems if he is.
@Sloth i will answer at yout post (and Rodemy's) when i can be on laptop again and this will happen in more than 10 hours because now i have to work and by phone posting is really hard to answer at these walls.
Take your time.
This
I know several players who makes posts exactly like this as town and can never quite reach the same level as scum
The casual invitations to explore sloth's spot and consider things and re-evaluate are very good vibes, especially considering sloth was teamed with JohnCarter in Marbleympics and he is like the prime example of the kind of player who makes these reads as town, so it's pretty likely that sloth is at least somewhat similar to have been on the same team
The way he kinda took my "I think t om is town" with a "huh interesting take I'll think about it" and from his subsequent posts has clearly actually been thinking about it is p damn townie
Ugh. This ******* game.
It's hard to find a solid thread to follow up on - have I said that already? I may have, I just find myself thinking it a lot and it's sapping me.
I've skipped most of the Ter/WMU interaction cause it was making me fall asleep - however I'm really starting to think WMU might just be town.
With Tubba gone, I guess I just wait for his flip and see if I had something of an accurate assessment then.
Although, without him, with people showing no interest in looking deeper at Lagoon, Tom being Tom, and the other wagons holding no strong interest for me, I guess I just go with Killjoy.
...That is the least passionate statement I've ever made lol. Wth.
@Jack I've never played with an angel before, but Axel made it seem like his job was keeping him from being exec not actually eating a kill for him? Also, isn't that role you're thinking about bodyguard?
Did you not want to talk?
@Joe interested in your final four assessment.
Angel is like a 3rd party BG in my exp, sadly they are normally put on a scum because rng be like that. It has made the games painful because of wasting days voting a mafia just to see the angel get killed and lose the possible wagon info. BG only stops NK, angels will take the hit in any form normally.
I'm not even sure what to talk about I'm winging this so hard, if I'm being honest with myself though I would rather KJ slot be the one today for reasons others have said. I'm so off my game everything feels off to me atm so my reasons for you lack any real substance and I know that deep down.
How am I wrong here? Given kpaca's near-complete refusal to put reads/progression into the thread, it seems p likely he's trying to cover a weakness in portraying natural progression, and this is a fault in exactly that
Hey fulcrum why don’t you answer my question instead of telling me to “calm down”
why are you looking for arguments for or against killjoy
Right, sorry, I'm still kind of in a weird headspace, but getting better.
Um, killjoy? Because I don't know him really well and want to call him town but don't feel comfortable with, like, commitment man so I want to rely on my other townreads to check me.
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
>calls him town
>but not too town
>but actually no read
>shading zds for townreading him
Okay while that is odd wouldn't you normally treat how you read a partner with more caution?
So it seems like I underestimated how long it would take me to catch up. Just got to the start of today, so hopefully I'll be fully caught up soon. I won't be doing any of those "catch up/note" posts until I finish reading.
EBWOP just got to the part where you think KJ is partners with Fonti, and Fonti's partner would probably have KP of some sort. Question answered. Serves me right for trying to actually participate before I have read everything lol.
I just finished a big time commitment, so I've got a good amount of time to read. I don't blame you for not though. I've been pacing myself, figure I might go for gold and try to finish it all tonight though. Got less than 10 pages left.
Then again the wording is ominous as **** with the “your worries will be lessened” nonsense
Fun fact. Mine does not say that. Won’t say what it does say, but mine is pretty straight forward.
I will say what mine says since already claimed, You will gain energy from your masters blessings. I assume this gives me a upgrade or something.
I'm guessing the Your worries will be lessened is in regards to gaining more protective or self serving abilities, and a you will gain energy one to be more about outward aggressive ability gain.
I noted they were somewhat similar on my read through. I know most people aren't going to want to read this another whole game of posts, I certainly don't. The thing I'm hung up on is Kpaca seems to have a very different play style than orange, so not sure why'd they have this similar of a scum playstyle.
I think this setup has just made a lot of us lose intrest tbh. I feel that way and just burned the hell out tbh which started during the team game but I hid it by just copying my team's reads. So atm I'm just coasting off shooting a town because it was counter wagon which has got me town read heavy, which is a bit crazy lol. I don't have scum hunting motivation which I should be as a town read for most though so just hoping something clicks soon.
idk why people are clearing Jack, last game I played that Osie made had a scum vig, and considering that Fonti's partner is probably another killer, I find it possible that Jack could be the partner. Since the NK mindset would be what Jack shows here of sheep whoever has a good argument because any lynch advances their goal. Slight positive for Jack on pointing out how ridiculous it is for them to be TR for this, since I've seen town Jack dismiss/question town leans on them they find to not make sense.
Heh this is just wrong.
She puts ZDS, who she never voted, on the bottom of the readslist and then has no qualms whatsoever to jump on the konan train while it’s taking off in a hurry.
Looks like pure opportunism to me.
Do you not see that Konan was right above ZDS there? I could understand your push here if Konan was higher up, or Raine gave reasoning that made it look like they thought ZDS was way worse than Konan, but to me a first and second scum I'm totally fine to vote for both especially when you need 11 people to yeet. Whats the scum motivation here? They are both town, so why would a scum TerRaine care about not voting for town ZDS and instead voting for town Konan? If anything, I think they would probably rather be on the unsuccessful counter-wagon if they knew the other wagon was going to flip town if they had a good reason to do so like that person being at the bottom of a readslist.
Finished getting all the way through btw. Took me a bit, and I'm super tired. I'll probably end up just not making a super long catch up post as it doesn't help me, and I don't think most of ya'll want to read through me going "oh wow what a town post from Fonti on page 2, oh wow that was invalidated by this post on page 106, Fonti must be an Osie alt account!" Its just not really my style of playing, so I wouldn't be able to generate much good content. I'll hit on that stuff if its actually relevant.
"Is snipping quotes a bit against the rules? I'ma be doing it here since I don't want anyone to have to suffer through reading unrelated quote threads."
Tbf I've been doing it for the same reason, have yet to hear anything. You may wanna DM Osie though if you'd rather be sure.
Speaking of which... Tubba Fett has been modkilled for repeated inactivity. Irregardless of their alignment, they can no longer win under any condition. Their role reveal will wait until a later, appropriate time.
Do not discuss circumstances surrounding modkills.
This is extremely rude. If Tubba flips scum, I’m going to vote you until one of us dies. Because you being scum with him is the only reason I can think of that mitigates that statement a bit.
That POE seems about right, slight chance a scum out of it but worry about that at a later point in the game.
Reading Oranges defence of Sloth, push on Kpaca and trial to derail Sloth onto Ter, I think it’s likely Orange / Sloth / Tubba / ?? For mafia, with ?? in Trisscar / Bananas / WMU.
TerRaine maybe 3p.
Then again the wording is ominous as **** with the “your worries will be lessened” nonsense
Fun fact. Mine does not say that. Won’t say what it does say, but mine is pretty straight forward.
I will say what mine says since already claimed, You will gain energy from your masters blessings. I assume this gives me a upgrade or something.
I'm guessing the Your worries will be lessened is in regards to gaining more protective or self serving abilities, and a you will gain energy one to be more about outward aggressive ability gain.
I noted they were somewhat similar on my read through. I know most people aren't going to want to read this another whole game of posts, I certainly don't. The thing I'm hung up on is Kpaca seems to have a very different play style than orange, so not sure why'd they have this similar of a scum playstyle.
I think this setup has just made a lot of us lose intrest tbh. I feel that way and just burned the hell out tbh which started during the team game but I hid it by just copying my team's reads. So atm I'm just coasting off shooting a town because it was counter wagon which has got me town read heavy, which is a bit crazy lol. I don't have scum hunting motivation which I should be as a town read for most though so just hoping something clicks soon.
idk why people are clearing Jack, last game I played that Osie made had a scum vig, and considering that Fonti's partner is probably another killer, I find it possible that Jack could be the partner. Since the NK mindset would be what Jack shows here of sheep whoever has a good argument because any lynch advances their goal. Slight positive for Jack on pointing out how ridiculous it is for them to be TR for this, since I've seen town Jack dismiss/question town leans on them they find to not make sense.
Heh this is just wrong.
She puts ZDS, who she never voted, on the bottom of the readslist and then has no qualms whatsoever to jump on the konan train while it’s taking off in a hurry.
Looks like pure opportunism to me.
Do you not see that Konan was right above ZDS there? I could understand your push here if Konan was higher up, or Raine gave reasoning that made it look like they thought ZDS was way worse than Konan, but to me a first and second scum I'm totally fine to vote for both especially when you need 11 people to yeet. Whats the scum motivation here? They are both town, so why would a scum TerRaine care about not voting for town ZDS and instead voting for town Konan? If anything, I think they would probably rather be on the unsuccessful counter-wagon if they knew the other wagon was going to flip town if they had a good reason to do so like that person being at the bottom of a readslist.
The ZDS non-vote was not voting a slowly growing wagon. I think she had trouble formulating a vote that wouldn’t look bad after a town flip.
The Konan vote was a bandwagon vote when everyone was jumping on the bandwagon. Didn’t stand out at all and easy to defend afterwards because everyone was doing it.
If her placement of ZDS was truthful, then as town she wouldn’t have had a problem voting there.
Rhand could be 3p with axel but that is a tin foil. The interaction felt staged th🤥unnaturally informal and just made me think they could be aligned together.
Tbf axel could be lying about the angel thing. But that’s not something I wanna bring into the discussion this late in the Day.
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Look I'm sorry you apparently took that as an attack at your activity level but it's pretty obvious to me that the guy softing tracker/watcher on your slot getting modkilled and then you immediately showing up is ******* awful timing and you being so overdefensive about it (without having ever commented on it) is ???
@Rhand I'm sorry that apparently came off like attacking your activity, I have not read many of your posts but I am aware that you had backread the entire thread. Post count is hardly everything and I would not attack yours for being lower than mine, that would be dumb.
However, I did note what really sounded like tracker softs on your slot. Maybe you didn't notice what I did, maybe you have a role-related reason not to respawn, whatever. At this point I'm not looking at you until after Tubba's flip anyways, but it is hopefully understandable from that perspective why I would consider that timing to be a "sick joke," and I hope you can see that was not meant as an attack on your activity level.
I announced it to Osie as a semi-VL/A because I’m at the coast with my husband and have no idea if I can be active on a daily basis.
I’m not completely gone.
Anyways, point me to that tracker soft. Because that makes no sense.
Going to be MIA Sunday-Wednesday my dudes just as a warning. I might be able to get on here and there but I'll be on vacation god willing and probably won't be scrambling to post.
Going to be MIA Sunday-Wednesday my dudes just as a warning. I might be able to get on here and there but I'll be on vacation god willing and probably won't be scrambling to post.
Going to be MIA Sunday-Wednesday my dudes just as a warning. I might be able to get on here and there but I'll be on vacation god willing and probably won't be scrambling to post.
Oh hi TerRaine
Let's talk about Sloth
town or scum and why
....I'm voting him. This is a silly question.
As for why, I've listed my case against him...Imma bit cross that you're convinced I'm scum without even reading my posts and are so bold as to just admit it.
Ter, isn't your case against me mostly feels? Not disparagin, honest question.
Hm. What do you do when the potential wagons are ones that you don’t think are scummy enough to vote, have recently replaced in, are non-starters due to lack of interest, or you?
Trisscar’s reactions continue feeling natural – it did ping me a little that he questioned Rhand’s note on the Tubba thing since seems fairly obvious and fairly irrelevant. Didn’t really care he didn’t question Rhand’s j’accuse since it had no vote for it and his response to Rhand (interestingly) questioning him on it makes perfect sense. Like, the obvious amount of sense that doesn’t require a follow-up question, Rhand.
I still feel like those first posts with Axel felt genuine in terms of working things out, but Axel didn’t and I’m trying hard to see what he’s saying.
@WMU: when you say you haven’t read any of the ZDS games and “anything related to that Iso is just my general opinion on how scum!Terry would handle a meta to fit it in his narrative” – I just don’t understand that. It doesn’t show the effort to back up your conviction: How can you be so sure that Terry is twisting the narrative and that his assessment of ZDS isn’t accurate if you haven’t read it yourself?
@Rhand: I don’t know, man – you tell me where any indication was given that Riddle’s a vanillaizer for you to make that assumption. I just don’t see where you got that information, please show me. Is that clear enough?
On the Tubba-interaction thing specially, I saw that as me taking away the easy, cop-out answer from him: I did not believe at all he could have missed the big discussion on Axel’s role.
In addition why would I put that in the thread and not scumchat? If anything this shows that Tubba and I cannot both be w/w. So...? I really am surprise people look at that interaction and try to push that narrative where I look at it and I was caging Tubba to a potentially unfair degree.
Also, hey, you think Tubba’s likely scum so mind unvoting me? K thanks.
If you’re going to move it to ter, maybe explain why it’s bad for her to vote her second strongest scumread?
(@Ter, defend me from this man’s thirst.)
@Lagoon: You’re correct, I did ignore that question.
@Orange: I was not in the same team as John Carter in marblelympics, but I did constantly interact with him.
Let's talk about Ter - is your vote based on her echoing your thoughts and thread mentality? let's discuss the rest.
I'm something of a Ter whisperer. Our friends and her family call me the "***** whisperer". True story. She's definitely never pocketed me and I haven't got a ML under my belt with her name on it.
I...might still vote Bananas, just to resolve that for myself. Eh, voting someone who's clearly making such an effort feels gross but there's still time in the day anyway.
Re: Jack; I don't think he's being necessarily towncleared, but that Dork shot definitely didn't come from scum. 3p is possible but it becomes a lesser priority.
My last thought is that Tubba must be Mafia, because the only people who are benefiting from this delayed reveal are the Mafia who already know the answer. This is Osie's way of making it up to them, if only a little.
'cause if he's town and we're just being denied info the scum already have, and we're (the Town, that is, who I am still counting myself a member of) about to go farther into the hole, we just don't know it yet, that's ********.
/metareads
fyi almost certainly ******* called it.
...I guess it’s time to finally take a closer look at Lagoon. Boo.
And yes it's based on some combination of echoing thoughts, thread mentality, and aforementioned gut feeling
I'll have to iso her later especially because (like so many others) she's refusing to explain things in detail when prompted and instead tells me to go read which is Very Helpful
...the next time I see you I'm gonna punch you right in the god damned throat. I hope you know that.
And I don't think its mostly feels. I think your priorities and the things you're attacking are weird.
...confused by your cross out. Are you seriously saying you've never mislynched me? Or that you're good at reading me in these games? Past two we've played you werent right in either of them
Anyways I feel like Sloth's priorities have felt about the same as mine which, when coupled with his approach to other slots (particularly Jackrito and tom) gives me pretty good confidence we're approaching the game from the same angle, so
Well pardon me but its kinda chafs my ass when I spend time typing up a post supporting my vote and putting thought into an argument only for days later to have people to go "eh I didn't read what you said but you're scum...now tell me if you think the person you're voting for is scum and why"
Isn't that what scumchat is for/why would scum give potential mislynches a way out in their initial accusation
I don't think this is anywhere near as scum-indicative as you paint it
I still expect more from you but everybody else seems to be completely ambivalent towards my case so I guess you've likely got the extra day before I'll come calling for that rain check
If I die this is absolutely the slot I want everybody to re-evaluate though
It's 0.5 KPN
Who cares
I have not backread his iso but I am seeing basically nothing damning since I have replaced in
The thoughts are real, the prodding and evaluating seems natural, and like, there was one post in particular I just felt
One sec
This
I know several players who makes posts exactly like this as town and can never quite reach the same level as scum
The casual invitations to explore sloth's spot and consider things and re-evaluate are very good vibes, especially considering sloth was teamed with JohnCarter in Marbleympics and he is like the prime example of the kind of player who makes these reads as town, so it's pretty likely that sloth is at least somewhat similar to have been on the same team
I honestly don't think this is a hit
I actually meant other people
lol
/vote TerRaine
Something about their posts feels off in my gut but idk quite what yet
That POE seems about right, slight chance a scum out of it but worry about that at a later point in the game.
You are pretty middle for me out of the list, I just quoted I would perfer Sloth, Triss and DB over you today.
Angel is like a 3rd party BG in my exp, sadly they are normally put on a scum because rng be like that. It has made the games painful because of wasting days voting a mafia just to see the angel get killed and lose the possible wagon info. BG only stops NK, angels will take the hit in any form normally.
I'm not even sure what to talk about I'm winging this so hard, if I'm being honest with myself though I would rather KJ slot be the one today for reasons others have said. I'm so off my game everything feels off to me atm so my reasons for you lack any real substance and I know that deep down.
Lel, well fine then.
Could I possibly get you to explain why you agree with this list?
does it get more cautious than that?
Lol, nice to see you again too Orange. My nomadic mafia server journeys seem to have led us to cross paths.
By KJ slot I assume you mean me. What makes you think I have kill power?
I'm personally not going to because there's no way I'll have the time
I'm guessing the Your worries will be lessened is in regards to gaining more protective or self serving abilities, and a you will gain energy one to be more about outward aggressive ability gain.
I noted they were somewhat similar on my read through. I know most people aren't going to want to read this another whole game of posts, I certainly don't. The thing I'm hung up on is Kpaca seems to have a very different play style than orange, so not sure why'd they have this similar of a scum playstyle.
idk why people are clearing Jack, last game I played that Osie made had a scum vig, and considering that Fonti's partner is probably another killer, I find it possible that Jack could be the partner. Since the NK mindset would be what Jack shows here of sheep whoever has a good argument because any lynch advances their goal. Slight positive for Jack on pointing out how ridiculous it is for them to be TR for this, since I've seen town Jack dismiss/question town leans on them they find to not make sense.
Do you not see that Konan was right above ZDS there? I could understand your push here if Konan was higher up, or Raine gave reasoning that made it look like they thought ZDS was way worse than Konan, but to me a first and second scum I'm totally fine to vote for both especially when you need 11 people to yeet. Whats the scum motivation here? They are both town, so why would a scum TerRaine care about not voting for town ZDS and instead voting for town Konan? If anything, I think they would probably rather be on the unsuccessful counter-wagon if they knew the other wagon was going to flip town if they had a good reason to do so like that person being at the bottom of a readslist.
Tbf I've been doing it for the same reason, have yet to hear anything. You may wanna DM Osie though if you'd rather be sure.
This is extremely rude. If Tubba flips scum, I’m going to vote you until one of us dies. Because you being scum with him is the only reason I can think of that mitigates that statement a bit.
I mean seriously?
Maybe I haven’t posted as much as you, but at least I did read the game after replacing in.
Reading Oranges defence of Sloth, push on Kpaca and trial to derail Sloth onto Ter, I think it’s likely Orange / Sloth / Tubba / ?? For mafia, with ?? in Trisscar / Bananas / WMU.
TerRaine maybe 3p.
The ZDS non-vote was not voting a slowly growing wagon. I think she had trouble formulating a vote that wouldn’t look bad after a town flip.
The Konan vote was a bandwagon vote when everyone was jumping on the bandwagon. Didn’t stand out at all and easy to defend afterwards because everyone was doing it.
If her placement of ZDS was truthful, then as town she wouldn’t have had a problem voting there.
Tbf axel could be lying about the angel thing. But that’s not something I wanna bring into the discussion this late in the Day.
@Rhand I'm sorry that apparently came off like attacking your activity, I have not read many of your posts but I am aware that you had backread the entire thread. Post count is hardly everything and I would not attack yours for being lower than mine, that would be dumb.
However, I did note what really sounded like tracker softs on your slot. Maybe you didn't notice what I did, maybe you have a role-related reason not to respawn, whatever. At this point I'm not looking at you until after Tubba's flip anyways, but it is hopefully understandable from that perspective why I would consider that timing to be a "sick joke," and I hope you can see that was not meant as an attack on your activity level.
This is what I get for posting immediately after waking up
Slothful (4) - TerRaine, gooLagoon, Rhand, Rodemy
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (2) - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, kpaca
deadbananas (1) - tomsloger
TerRaine (1) - orangeandblack5
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1) - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Trisscar (1) - Axelrod
Not voting: Ampharos, deadbananas, Jackrito, Slothful, Trisscar
Vote History:
Slothful - Tubba Fett > (Unvote)
tomsloger - Slothful > deadbananas
TerRaine - Tubba Fett > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Rodemy - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Axelrod > deadbananas > Slothful > deadbananas > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Slothful
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Rhand - Slothful > deadbananas > Slothful
Jackrito - orangeandblack5 > Unvote > Slothful > Unvote
gooLagoon - Slothful > TheRealStinkyJoeTerry > Slothful
Axelrod - Trisscar
kpaca - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
orangeandblack5 - kpaca > TerRaine
It takes 8 to elim, and Day 2 Deadline is July 11th, 2020 at 1715 PST. There will likely be a twilight phase.
Ampharos is V/LA.
Rhand is V/LA.
Slothful is V/LA.
Slothful - 4+
orangeandblack5 - 4+
kpaca - 4+
Jackrito - 4+
TerRaine - 4+
Trisscar - 4+
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - 4+
Rhand - 4+
tomsloger - 4+
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - 4+
Axelrod - 4+
Rodemy - 4+
gooLagoon - 4+
deadbananas - 0 (Replaced in)
I announced it to Osie as a semi-VL/A because I’m at the coast with my husband and have no idea if I can be active on a daily basis.
I’m not completely gone.
Anyways, point me to that tracker soft. Because that makes no sense.
Also, I’m drunk.
Was this subtle by site standards?
Oh hi TerRaine
Let's talk about Sloth
town or scum and why
....I'm voting him. This is a silly question.
As for why, I've listed my case against him...Imma bit cross that you're convinced I'm scum without even reading my posts and are so bold as to just admit it.
Hm. What do you do when the potential wagons are ones that you don’t think are scummy enough to vote, have recently replaced in, are non-starters due to lack of interest, or you?
Trisscar’s reactions continue feeling natural – it did ping me a little that he questioned Rhand’s note on the Tubba thing since seems fairly obvious and fairly irrelevant. Didn’t really care he didn’t question Rhand’s j’accuse since it had no vote for it and his response to Rhand (interestingly) questioning him on it makes perfect sense.
Like, the obvious amount of sense that doesn’t require a follow-up question, Rhand.I still feel like those first posts with Axel felt genuine in terms of working things out, but Axel didn’t and I’m trying hard to see what he’s saying.
@WMU: when you say you haven’t read any of the ZDS games and “anything related to that Iso is just my general opinion on how scum!Terry would handle a meta to fit it in his narrative” – I just don’t understand that. It doesn’t show the effort to back up your conviction: How can you be so sure that Terry is twisting the narrative and that his assessment of ZDS isn’t accurate if you haven’t read it yourself?
@Rhand: I don’t know, man – you tell me where any indication was given that Riddle’s a vanillaizer for you to make that assumption. I just don’t see where you got that information, please show me. Is that clear enough?
On the Tubba-interaction thing specially, I saw that as me taking away the easy, cop-out answer from him: I did not believe at all he could have missed the big discussion on Axel’s role.
In addition why would I put that in the thread and not scumchat? If anything this shows that Tubba and I cannot both be w/w. So...? I really am surprise people look at that interaction and try to push that narrative where I look at it and I was caging Tubba to a potentially unfair degree.
Also, hey, you think Tubba’s likely scum so mind unvoting me? K thanks.
If you’re going to move it to ter, maybe explain why it’s bad for her to vote her second strongest scumread?
(@Ter, defend me from this man’s thirst.)
@Lagoon: You’re correct, I did ignore that question.
@Orange: I was not in the same team as John Carter in marblelympics, but I did constantly interact with him.
Let's talk about Ter - is your vote based on her echoing your thoughts and thread mentality? let's discuss the rest.
I'm something of a Ter whisperer. Our friends and her family call me the "***** whisperer". True story.
She's definitely never pocketed me and I haven't got a ML under my belt with her name on it.I...might still vote Bananas, just to resolve that for myself. Eh, voting someone who's clearly making such an effort feels gross but there's still time in the day anyway.
Re: Jack; I don't think he's being necessarily towncleared, but that Dork shot definitely didn't come from scum. 3p is possible but it becomes a lesser priority.
fyi
almost certainly******* called it....I guess it’s time to finally take a closer look at Lagoon. Boo.
Whoops
I'll have to iso her later especially because (like so many others) she's refusing to explain things in detail when prompted and instead tells me to go read which is Very Helpful
And I don't think its mostly feels. I think your priorities and the things you're attacking are weird.
...confused by your cross out. Are you seriously saying you've never mislynched me? Or that you're good at reading me in these games? Past two we've played you werent right in either of them
Love you, Ter