Looking at these wagons is making me cross-eyed. But let me just say, I'm so happy that Last and Fulcrum aren't in this game anymore. (not because they aren't lovely people, but I think with them gone, future wagons will be a lot simpler....)
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Sloth, I’m dropping this because it is getting us nowhere. I didnt read the flavor text, Something i’d do as both alignments. Pointing it out and throwing shade does nothing. Saying you are torn between town or scum Rodemy is very fencesitty. Either you think I’m scum for it or you think it doesn’t matter. Obviously you think I could be scum for it which baffles me. I didnt read flavor text, big whoop. I read what I did read and made my opinions on it. Hey look, progress.
So either find some other reason to scumread me or go back and try again?
I’m kinda feeling a scum sloth vibe concidering your fency view on me. Like you wanna our doubt out there but don’t wanna commit to it. On something that Is NAI. Just waiting to jump on someone who agrees
For the third time: This has ****-all to do with you not reading flavor like you do every game.
This is about holding you accountable for what you said earlier this game.
You said you were trying to be better and said you were making an effort, to explain your earlier play. So you were trying to change the way you play.
Then you default back to this 'kooky rodemy' bs toDay after you stated you were trying to move away from that because that should be what's expected of you, and you don't think that raises some flags?
Either you are Town that lied about trying to be better, or you're scum that is trying to hide behind your expected town-behavior and contradicting your earlier play.
If it's the first, then that's disappointing as hell. w/e.
Anyway, I'm definitely being clear about how I'm looking at you.
I'm being clear about where I stand on most people, assuming I have a stance honestly - and this goes to everyone, 'cause I keep seeing these throwaway comments about me not being firm this game and it's getting tiring.
Yep, I'm definitely being laidback and lazy this game. But nope. If I have a stance on something, you know it. Try something actually valid to bring against me.
Stop holding me accountable then? obviously i am doing enough to make you scum read me for it, but i am gonna **** up from time to time. it's how i am.
And it's not "kooky rodemy" it's ******* Rodemy. Plain and simple. I'm tired of the ******* phrase. i make mistakes. And i don't consider not reading the ******* flavor text a mistake. I asked a question and it got answered. that's all that was needed. No kookiness behind it. Now i have learned that i need to read it. Cool, lesson learned moving on. But you are making it out to seem like i am "faking it". I'm also really ******* tired of THAT meta.
You can't say you don't remember me being the one not to read and still use me not reading as an argument verifying "kooky Rodemy" that's a huge scum read from me, dawg.
simple picture is that it took you so long to come up with a evidence for scum reading me. your reason: He makes sense". Now, it feels like you are reaching for straws about me NOT reading the flavor text, so i must be playing up my "kookiness" which i don't see as a ******* problem. i asked a question (instead of my normal OMG AMY KNOWS THERE ARE ONLY TWO ,SHE MUST BE SCUM) instead i ******* asked where she got the info from and moved the absolute **** on. Parenthesis would be playing up "kooky" Not reading the flavor is just me being lazy, but i did read the important info of "role, Alignment, abilities" which i made a decent post about.
Now. If you wanna go ahead and explain how You can't remember me not reading before, that would be lovely.
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there are some who will probably try to argue that we should be ignoring the other carrow today and go after wolves
i posit that these people are wrong, for the simple reason that eliminating the second carrow probably means eliminating another alt-night kill - and the more non-town nks we can take off the board, the better
I'm also sick of thinking about tom riddle and am inclined to believe that we should just burn that bridge when we get to it
That’s funny because I just tagged you as possible Fulcrum partner.
It would be extremely ballsy to be the partner and advocate hunting for it, so I guess you’re not the partner lol.
Third party shots can (and should) take out mafia because they lose to a mafia majority as well. Which is why lynching them is never a priority as long as there’s mafia to be lynched.
If we identify the partner, sure, lynch it. And since there’s interaction analysis to be done with Fulcrum, that shouldn‘t be ignored either.
But focus-wise we should be looking for mafia first.
ahem
Without any flips, looking for "mafia" is just hunting scummy people anyway.
As is looking for carrows...
Except we do have a carrow flip to work with
Hey fulcrum why don’t you answer my question instead of telling me to “calm down”
why are you looking for arguments for or against killjoy
Right, sorry, I'm still kind of in a weird headspace, but getting better.
Um, killjoy? Because I don't know him really well and want to call him town but don't feel comfortable with, like, commitment man so I want to rely on my other townreads to check me.
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
I’m not against lynching carrows, only against focusing the hunting on them.
If he flips Carrow, fine
He isn’t his town self is what I’m saying.
Uuuugh phone posting. Basically his harping on my kpaca (autocorrect hates this handle) aggression then on WMU aggression. Pretty much every time I pressure someone well
Within my typically abrasive manner he’s questioning it as if it’s atypical. it’s weird in and of itself but the way he’s pushing it more so. “What are you getting out of this?” Is a softball question and frankly with an obvious answer in my eyes.
And again....my brain can’t wrap around the town side of agueing it’s a waste of time to point out when a player is starting their scum hunt with wrong info.
Um. Tbh this told me that you are scum reading him. Did i misread that? If you are scum reading him why not lynch? Also this answer is just.. something. I expected an answer about how you aren't really scum reading him, but here it definitely shows you don't think he is town. Why do you wanna wait?
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I like Tom, tubba. There is a read. He is super solvey and looking for teams and partners. Very town.
I have a headache. This game and all the multiple party talks is frustrating.
Why are you concerned about me getting back in this *****?
I need to start getting off the fence, you are a read that I’m trying to firm up. I want more from you to help me do that. If you are demotivated or whatever you’re not going to be engaged and providing content for me to get a handle on you.
there are some who will probably try to argue that we should be ignoring the other carrow today and go after wolves
i posit that these people are wrong, for the simple reason that eliminating the second carrow probably means eliminating another alt-night kill - and the more non-town nks we can take off the board, the better
I'm also sick of thinking about tom riddle and am inclined to believe that we should just burn that bridge when we get to it
That’s funny because I just tagged you as possible Fulcrum partner.
It would be extremely ballsy to be the partner and advocate hunting for it, so I guess you’re not the partner lol.
Third party shots can (and should) take out mafia because they lose to a mafia majority as well. Which is why lynching them is never a priority as long as there’s mafia to be lynched.
If we identify the partner, sure, lynch it. And since there’s interaction analysis to be done with Fulcrum, that shouldn‘t be ignored either.
But focus-wise we should be looking for mafia first.
ahem
Without any flips, looking for "mafia" is just hunting scummy people anyway.
As is looking for carrows...
Except we do have a carrow flip to work with
Hey fulcrum why don’t you answer my question instead of telling me to “calm down”
why are you looking for arguments for or against killjoy
Right, sorry, I'm still kind of in a weird headspace, but getting better.
Um, killjoy? Because I don't know him really well and want to call him town but don't feel comfortable with, like, commitment man so I want to rely on my other townreads to check me.
Current Killjoy reminds me of Matter Killjoy: obsessed with Axelrod, doing his own thing, not much of a presence otherwise. He doesn't give me the bad vibes he gave me in Matter (as town), but I'm also not paying as much attention so maybe that's why. Also it *feels* like he's less active, but maybe he's just being drowned by the crowd. He's in my ok pile.
I don't get why killjoy is in your ok pile, from the other things you've said about him. Like, you're saying he gave you bad vibes previously when he was town, yeah? So, wouldn't him not giving you the same vibes this game be somewhat concerning, not a reason to townread him? Same thing on him not having much of presence and the Axelrod obsession, those things aren't usually considered towny. What am I missing here?
I’m not against lynching carrows, only against focusing the hunting on them.
If he flips Carrow, fine
He isn’t his town self is what I’m saying.
@Rodemy: one bad meta case doesn’t make meta bad.
True, i just want more from you than "meta" you feel me? tom made an excellent argument which i am /barning the ***** out of.
Can i get your read on sloth? Or have you not caught up yet?
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I like Tom, tubba. There is a read. He is super solvey and looking for teams and partners. Very town.
I have a headache. This game and all the multiple party talks is frustrating.
Why are you concerned about me getting back in this *****?
I need to start getting off the fence, you are a read that I’m trying to firm up. I want more from you to help me do that. If you are demotivated or whatever you’re not going to be engaged and providing content for me to get a handle on you.
Why focus on Rodemy of all people?
Because i am sexy and due for some admiration. Duh. Jealous? <3
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@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
Uuuugh phone posting. Basically his harping on my kpaca (autocorrect hates this handle) aggression then on WMU aggression. Pretty much every time I pressure someone well
Within my typically abrasive manner he’s questioning it as if it’s atypical. it’s weird in and of itself but the way he’s pushing it more so. “What are you getting out of this?” Is a softball question and frankly with an obvious answer in my eyes.
And again....my brain can’t wrap around the town side of agueing it’s a waste of time to point out when a player is starting their scum hunt with wrong info.
Um. Tbh this told me that you are scum reading him. Did i misread that? If you are scum reading him why not lynch? Also this answer is just.. something. I expected an answer about how you aren't really scum reading him, but here it definitely shows you don't think he is town. Why do you wanna wait?
I said I’m not vibing on d2 sloth as in I was d1 where I placed him as Town.
@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
Yeah welcome to my world. .Catching up with my reading comprehension skills is like.. The labyrinth, and not the good kind with David Bowie at the end :[
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@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
I don't like this post by Rhand. It tries to use a very narrow variation of a very broad subject to try to corner me. I've even said why it's wrong and he's ignoring it,.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I explained my read on Tubba. Not on me if ya don't read it.
Oh i read it.
i was actually typing up a post:
and yes i did read your 1388, Ter. It was 3 reads. 1 town (me) one kinda scum (tubbs) and one very scum (ZDS... lol)
You left out the fact Tubba said his internet was spotty and he had meetings, but okay.
Your bubba read was based around the Tom gif debacle and even though bubba tried to chime in, you said it was participation points:
Ok, I'm back and caught up. I'm going to try to explore things one at a time here because my brain is a bit scrambled from the weekend to try to tackle this thing all at once.
Let's talk about Axel...
Axel is a strong player, but not the type of player that will make a bummer post about his role if he is scum just to ATE his way out of playing hard. I think he is legitimately discouraged by his role. He is most likely neutral, probably a survivor variant, maybe a survivor bodyguard? That would suck.
Anyways point being, I think lynching him is a waste... especially because he won't flip. In fact, lynching Axel is the most wasted of wasted lynches. Therefore, my next line of attack will be on people pushing for Axel's lynch. It's a cop out for people that want to be lazy and not really hunt. I feel like every town player with some experience with Axel should have recognized what I'm saying. Now that being said, I have been gone for a couple years, so if there are games where Axel has started off complaining about his role and instead been the bulletproof, SK, erection detector then please let me know.
@Axelrod: I'm willing to try to help you achieve whatever you need to achieve as long as it doesn't hurt the town, but in exchange I'd like some effort. How do we get you in this game and hunting?
I like this post. The only argument against it I could make is that lynching softed weak/anti-town is better than mislynching. Is there anymore you’re willing to give Axle? I don’t want the whole enchilada but a little more?
@All
I know it’s cute, hell, I like it more than anyone, but what if Tom is scum using the gifs to avoid putting anything concrete in the thread? It’s a pretty easy copout to just say he was misinterpreted? Especially since it looks like it’s definitely not a posting restriction?
Also, my internet access is going to be spotty at best for the next 4-5 days. I SHOULD be able to meet posting requirements, and I’ll try and keep up with the times but just wanted to put it out there. If it’s too much I will go full V/LA.
There he is talking about axle (which you said he was "hiding behind the make tom stop train") and also explains his lack of posts.
so is there any NEW info on Tubbs you wanna give? like what has he said toDay that makes you think scum?
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Honestly more or less back burnered tubba hence my unvoting him. He hasn't done much d2 to attract my attention as scum and others have. I voted him early based on that read and moved onto scummier more active things.
Honestly more or less back burnered tubba hence my unvoting him. He hasn't done much d2 to attract my attention as scum and others have. I voted him early based on that read and moved onto scummier more active things.
Ah yea, WMU. and.. what others?
The idea to look into the ZDS wagon isn't BAD. considering 2 people on it are dead and it leaves a few others to look at. But since his vote which you claimed was OMGUS, idk. This feels disproportionate to your reads on ZDS and Tubba.
Im gonna go for a bit. ttyl
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(1)do you...
Not understand that this is a gut read that im using an anology to explain?
Yes i got it wrong in matter
I did die scumreading you the dlp game you were scum, and i did correctly townread you in prison and marblelympics (with assist from correctly reading fonti contributions)
(2)Why do you continue to grill rodemy, your townread, like hes your main suspect? Where is that TeNaCiTy in your pushes?
(1) No no, I do. I’m just pointing out why you shouldn’t be using that mentality (“waiting for him to sink his teeth in”) or that analogy given that it hasn’t worked for you in the past.
You were the one that brought it up on detail in #1083, and I only responded to it, not brought it up myself.
And that’s kind of what I’ve been doing with you, Tom. You bring up things that you shouldn’t think or makes no sense for you to think, and I call you out on it, and then you respond by sidestepping the actual points which...I guess you did in prison but it feels different now.
Yes, you were wrong on Matter, but me bringing it up in #2120 was only indirectly related to that, instead being in response to #2096, where you said “the one where you said my method of reading you {here meaning the basketball analogy} is bad when im 3 for 4 reading you correctly and the one time i was wrong {here meaning Matter} was a read on the person you replaced?”
You didn’t say the exact words, but the obvious implication here is that you got me wrong because you were misreading the person I replaced (MP7). What I did was simply show why that was 100% not true. And why I don’t see why would believe that since it wasn’t a small, throw-away thing from that game.
I’ll have to take your word for it on DLP. I believe you, that’s just not what I remember. Point stands.
I also don’t like your hyperfocus on things that are not important.
(2) It should be abundantly clear I'm not strongly townreading Rod anymore. Am I scumreading him? I can't decide. I'm trying to figure him out, but it's exhausting.
I told you I wasn't sure where it was and ask you to direct me to where you explained your reaction to 864. Now that you've directed me to it I can read and answer. What I gain from this is insight as to your reaction to 864...I didn't understand why that to draw from your phrasing was the straw to break the camels back...I'd seen the reactive Town!Rod plenty before that so that post didn't strike me as anything special.
What insight did you get, exactly?
To answer your unasked question, Rod acting as described in that post is exactly what seemed Town to me (where before he wasn’t) so I took note of it.
What is your read of Rod?
Uuuugh phone posting. Basically his harping on my kpaca (autocorrect hates this handle) aggression then on WMU aggression. Pretty much every time I pressure someone well
Within my typically abrasive manner he’s questioning it as if it’s atypical. it’s weird in and of itself but the way he’s pushing it more so. “What are you getting out of this?” Is a softball question and frankly with an obvious answer in my eyes.
And again....my brain can’t wrap around the town side of agueing it’s a waste of time to point out when a player is starting their scum hunt with wrong info.
Your harping on Kpaca was pointless. You’re aggressive but your only goal is never simple antagonism; usually you have a reason for it – you didn’t seem to with him which is why I asked. You replied you “didn’t have to tell me everything you were thinking” which I called coy but seemed to indicate there was a deeper meaning to what you were doing that I wasn’t seeing so I waited. This post seems to indicate otherwise? Did you want to talk bout it more or...?
WMU, similarly, I was reacting to you focusing on the wrong thing and not really helping solve – though I did not think you were being aggressive there, so not sure where you got that.
The role is a vanilla-izer too. It makes no sense to have that on the scumteam. Wisp was town.
Wait, can we rewind? I reread the role again to make sure I wasn’t missing something. How is Wisp a “vanillizer”? As far as I could tell, nothing about the wording indicates the Dark Mark (or anything about Riddle) takes away abilities.
8 pages in, I have townreads on Rodemy, Kpaca and gooLagoon.
Rodemy: he wouldn’t have backtracked on his gambit as mafia.
Kpaca: he’s asking the right questions. Sadly in his typical Kpaca way where he doesn’t share what the answers do to his reads. Town for sure if terry is mafia.
gooLagoon: gutread.
Pinning this, because I want to see how these reads evolve.
Why do you say Dork's wagon most likely didn't have scum? Is there a reason you think the Dork wagon's entirely composed of town beyond Wake's focus on it?
Why is Lagoon town for you again?
I wanted to circle back on this.
Who do you think is scum on the above mentioned wagon? Obviously, not counting Fulcrum.
All of it has been mentioned in one way or another in my posts: I’m looking at Lagoon and Tom, as well as trying to figure out Rodemy and you.
Ok, time out. Why do we care so much about the Tom Riddle mechanic? Should we be, you know... looking for scum?
Although this post gives you some townie points, because it’s exactly what I was thinking and it’s one of the reasons I don’t care much for Tom right now.
For what it’s worth, I think it’s entirely possible due to the nature of the game that there is no out-and-out “scumteam”: It might just be Tom being a cultist and making more and more scum until he has 7 total (horcruxes).
The “alternative wincon” could just refer to Last choosing not to use his culting at all and winning the game on his own.
The idea has flaws, which is why I don’t care about pursuing it until we have much more info.
someone asked me earlier for a more articulate towncase on tom
the short answer is "i think the way he transitioned out of giffing displayed towny motivation and i think his thoughts since then have been really solid"
a long answer would have to wait for me to not be half asleep and i would hope just wouldn't be necessary to begin with
I would like there to be a long answer.
I don’t really like where Tom’s focus and where his mentality and process have been this game so far.
Stop holding me accountable then?
obviously i am doing enough to make you scum read me for it, but i am gonna **** up from time to time. it's how i am.
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Now. If you wanna go ahead and explain how You can't remember me not reading before, that would be lovely.
As for your question: No.
This is the second time you have asked me to explain something very basic to you this game alone, and given some of your posts toDay, looks like the first explanation didn’t even stick.
You are not a child. You can read. You can figure out why you’re wrong on your own.
Start by rereading my posts and finding anywhere I said “can’t remember.”
Hm. I suppose Tom might be right on KJ being font’s partner. It might explain some things I’ve noticed about him.
In the meantime, I still want to discuss Tubba with people – can anyone talk with me about their impressions on him?
P.S. I don’t know if I’ll get a chance to post again today, but just in case: Definitely V/LA tomorrow, for obvious reasons.
@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
I don't like this post by Rhand. It tries to use a very narrow variation of a very broad subject to try to corner me. I've even said why it's wrong and he's ignoring it,.
Point me to the why? I must have missed it, 'cause I don't remember it.
Honestly more or less back burnered tubba hence my unvoting him. He hasn't done much d2 to attract my attention as scum and others have. I voted him early based on that read and moved onto scummier more active things.
Why does him not doing much D2 (i.e. lying low) mean he's to be backburn'd? Has your read on him changed? If so, how?
@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
I'm just now starting. Bet I can finish before you!
I didn’t say looking at the zds wagon was bad. I need everyone to say it with me. I said that it did not start after Konan or as a response to konans wagon
I'll probably bump into the post at some point, but didn't someone say that Poison Chan has a volume tell? And they completely failed to provide any volume? Seems that line of inquiry was never followed up on.
Okay I'm trying to read but there's a tiny kitten in my lap that keeps clawing at my thumbs whenever I try to type or scroll. Literally shedding blood for this game.
As for sloth asking about tubba....I can’t get new info from someone not doing much. He gets back Burnered cause there’s more active players to work with at the moment drawing my attention.
And since I don’t much think it matters anymore and I can’t find it in me to care....antagonized people sometimes say more than they need to. Eliciting an emotional response is telling sometimes. That’s why.
Also might be MIA for the remainder of today and tomorrow. Tomorrow cause 'Merica **** Yea and today cause I am...incredibly car sick and I am going to scurry off into the dark and die a bit
Also might be MIA for the remainder of today and tomorrow. Tomorrow cause 'Merica **** Yea and today cause I am...incredibly car sick and I am going to scurry off into the dark and die a bit
Maybe zds was killed by wake? In order to push a terry lynch? Seems reasonable. So terry can be not aligned with wake.
we have
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Yes. That's why I was on WMU right away, it felt like a scum frame job.
wait are you being serious?
Jack claimed killing zds.
Well as much as everyone is all about Town-Vig Jack right now, we have no evidence that he's town. WMU's post felt like a frame-job, that's why I dove into it. I get it, I'm town reading Jack too right now, but there is a possibility that Jack is scum with WMU. My comment above was just saying that's the feeling I got from the WMU post I went off about. WMU felt like he was setting up a push with bad intentions. Fake scum-hunting is fake scum-hunting.
I'll probably bump into the post at some point, but didn't someone say that Poison Chan has a volume tell? And they completely failed to provide any volume? Seems that line of inquiry was never followed up on.
twas i who claimed the volume tell
the main reason i never followed up on this was because i forgot that poison was also multitabling with the mafia championships at the time, and i 100% do not blame her for focusing that over this
and i don't necessarily want to go into it deeper than that. would prefer to just analyze that slot through rand, i think
I think Occam points to this being more likely wolves than some group of neutrals. Because cults almost never exist in games if mafia, and teams of wolves always do.
Do you disagree with that? Do you think he's a neutral team?
No. He’s town. Why are you not considering town?
No town WinCon.
The wincon was omitted from the flip. Like he said it would.
And the role states his original wincon still works.
And there’s also no mafia wincon.
That’s not a reason.
there's never a mafia WinCon. You know that. That's not a reason.
How does that role make sense as town? Especially with no alignment changes?
It doesn’t make sense as any alignment really. There must be a way of spreading or there’s more than one.
What do you mean there’s never a mafia WinCon?
Read your role pm again. I’m sure there’s going to be something there about controlling the lynch.
@Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
I don't like this post by Rhand. It tries to use a very narrow variation of a very broad subject to try to corner me. I've even said why it's wrong and he's ignoring it,.
That was a backtrack after being very adamant about it before.
Point still stands: you were using the setup. That’s not your normal play. You leave setup talk to others normally.
Maybe zds was killed by wake? In order to push a terry lynch? Seems reasonable. So terry can be not aligned with wake.
we have
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Catching up on today's posts i find this gross.
Is like streching something to fit your ideas. But it's in the oposite direction with reality.
Also making associative reads before a wolf flip is antitown.
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Stop holding me accountable then? obviously i am doing enough to make you scum read me for it, but i am gonna **** up from time to time. it's how i am.
And it's not "kooky rodemy" it's ******* Rodemy. Plain and simple. I'm tired of the ******* phrase. i make mistakes. And i don't consider not reading the ******* flavor text a mistake. I asked a question and it got answered. that's all that was needed. No kookiness behind it. Now i have learned that i need to read it. Cool, lesson learned moving on. But you are making it out to seem like i am "faking it". I'm also really ******* tired of THAT meta.
You can't say you don't remember me being the one not to read and still use me not reading as an argument verifying "kooky Rodemy" that's a huge scum read from me, dawg.
simple picture is that it took you so long to come up with a evidence for scum reading me. your reason: He makes sense". Now, it feels like you are reaching for straws about me NOT reading the flavor text, so i must be playing up my "kookiness" which i don't see as a ******* problem. i asked a question (instead of my normal OMG AMY KNOWS THERE ARE ONLY TWO ,SHE MUST BE SCUM) instead i ******* asked where she got the info from and moved the absolute **** on. Parenthesis would be playing up "kooky" Not reading the flavor is just me being lazy, but i did read the important info of "role, Alignment, abilities" which i made a decent post about.
Now. If you wanna go ahead and explain how You can't remember me not reading before, that would be lovely.
I’m not against lynching carrows, only against focusing the hunting on them.
If he flips Carrow, fine
He isn’t his town self is what I’m saying.
@Rodemy: one bad meta case doesn’t make meta bad.
Um. Tbh this told me that you are scum reading him. Did i misread that? If you are scum reading him why not lynch? Also this answer is just.. something. I expected an answer about how you aren't really scum reading him, but here it definitely shows you don't think he is town. Why do you wanna wait?
Why focus on Rodemy of all people?
True, i just want more from you than "meta" you feel me? tom made an excellent argument which i am /barning the ***** out of.
Can i get your read on sloth? Or have you not caught up yet?
Because i am sexy and due for some admiration. Duh. Jealous? <3
I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
I said I’m not vibing on d2 sloth as in I was d1 where I placed him as Town.
gotcha.
Still think you are bussing.
<3
Yeah welcome to my world. .Catching up with my reading comprehension skills is like.. The labyrinth, and not the good kind with David Bowie at the end :[
Think away good man. If ya feel that way ya can always vote me d3 after he flips mafia
vote sloth
Fun fact: That is not David Bowie's hand.
Sloth or KJ for me today.
Ter, Sloth AND goo all go after Tubbs first thing in the day.
likelihood of all of them being scum is slim, which i hate. But also if they are all scum, ballsy.
But it feels like scum hopping behind Amy.
Amy why did you vote Tubba?
Sloth, you are voting Tubbs because of.. Font's read? Not your own?
And Ter just votes Tubba because it's.. hip?
sloth and her have terrible votes and Amy i want to know why since she was the first.
Less
I explained my read on Tubba. Not on me if ya don't read it.
Oh i read it.
i was actually typing up a post:
and yes i did read your 1388, Ter. It was 3 reads. 1 town (me) one kinda scum (tubbs) and one very scum (ZDS... lol)
You left out the fact Tubba said his internet was spotty and he had meetings, but okay.
Your bubba read was based around the Tom gif debacle and even though bubba tried to chime in, you said it was participation points:
But you left out most of that quote.
There he is talking about axle (which you said he was "hiding behind the make tom stop train") and also explains his lack of posts.
so is there any NEW info on Tubbs you wanna give? like what has he said toDay that makes you think scum?
Ah yea, WMU. and.. what others?
The idea to look into the ZDS wagon isn't BAD. considering 2 people on it are dead and it leaves a few others to look at. But since his vote which you claimed was OMGUS, idk. This feels disproportionate to your reads on ZDS and Tubba.
Im gonna go for a bit. ttyl
You were the one that brought it up on detail in #1083, and I only responded to it, not brought it up myself.
And that’s kind of what I’ve been doing with you, Tom. You bring up things that you shouldn’t think or makes no sense for you to think, and I call you out on it, and then you respond by sidestepping the actual points which...I guess you did in prison but it feels different now.
Yes, you were wrong on Matter, but me bringing it up in #2120 was only indirectly related to that, instead being in response to #2096, where you said “the one where you said my method of reading you {here meaning the basketball analogy} is bad when im 3 for 4 reading you correctly and the one time i was wrong {here meaning Matter} was a read on the person you replaced?”
You didn’t say the exact words, but the obvious implication here is that you got me wrong because you were misreading the person I replaced (MP7). What I did was simply show why that was 100% not true. And why I don’t see why would believe that since it wasn’t a small, throw-away thing from that game.
I’ll have to take your word for it on DLP. I believe you, that’s just not what I remember. Point stands.
I also don’t like your hyperfocus on things that are not important.
(2) It should be abundantly clear I'm not strongly townreading Rod anymore. Am I scumreading him? I can't decide. I'm trying to figure him out, but it's exhausting.
What insight did you get, exactly?
To answer your unasked question, Rod acting as described in that post is exactly what seemed Town to me (where before he wasn’t) so I took note of it.
What is your read of Rod? For what it’s worth, that kind of does sound culty. Jim Jonesy/Scientology “just join us and you’ll never have to worry about anything again”
Heh. Your harping on Kpaca was pointless. You’re aggressive but your only goal is never simple antagonism; usually you have a reason for it – you didn’t seem to with him which is why I asked. You replied you “didn’t have to tell me everything you were thinking” which I called coy but seemed to indicate there was a deeper meaning to what you were doing that I wasn’t seeing so I waited. This post seems to indicate otherwise? Did you want to talk bout it more or...?
WMU, similarly, I was reacting to you focusing on the wrong thing and not really helping solve – though I did not think you were being aggressive there, so not sure where you got that.
Anything else? I’m curious.
Wait, can we rewind? I reread the role again to make sure I wasn’t missing something. How is Wisp a “vanillizer”? As far as I could tell, nothing about the wording indicates the Dark Mark (or anything about Riddle) takes away abilities. Pinning this, because I want to see how these reads evolve.
All of it has been mentioned in one way or another in my posts: I’m looking at Lagoon and Tom, as well as trying to figure out Rodemy and you. Although this post gives you some townie points, because it’s exactly what I was thinking and it’s one of the reasons I don’t care much for Tom right now.
For what it’s worth, I think it’s entirely possible due to the nature of the game that there is no out-and-out “scumteam”: It might just be Tom being a cultist and making more and more scum until he has 7 total (horcruxes).
The “alternative wincon” could just refer to Last choosing not to use his culting at all and winning the game on his own.
The idea has flaws, which is why I don’t care about pursuing it until we have much more info.
I would like there to be a long answer.
I don’t really like where Tom’s focus and where his mentality and process have been this game so far.
^Rod ________________________________________________________________ Me^
As for your question: No.
This is the second time you have asked me to explain something very basic to you this game alone, and given some of your posts toDay, looks like the first explanation didn’t even stick.
You are not a child. You can read. You can figure out why you’re wrong on your own.
Start by rereading my posts and finding anywhere I said “can’t remember.”
Hm. I suppose Tom might be right on KJ being font’s partner. It might explain some things I’ve noticed about him.
In the meantime, I still want to discuss Tubba with people – can anyone talk with me about their impressions on him?
P.S. I don’t know if I’ll get a chance to post again today, but just in case: Definitely V/LA tomorrow, for obvious reasons.
~cats~
And since I don’t much think it matters anymore and I can’t find it in me to care....antagonized people sometimes say more than they need to. Eliciting an emotional response is telling sometimes. That’s why.
^Part of the Internet Constitution.
Hope you feel better soon.
wait are you being serious?
Jack claimed killing zds.
I just assumed
orangeandblack5 replaces Fuwa, effective immediately.
As always, do not discuss circumstances surrounding replacements.
I got directly recruited and have no idea what's going on lol
I have a long car ride tomorrow and can hopefully catch up
Killjoy (3) - tomsloger, Rhand, Rodemy
Tubba Fett (2) - Ampharos, Slothful
orangeandblack5 (1) - Jackrito
Slothful (1) - TerRaine
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1) - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (1) - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Not voting: Axelrod, gooLagoon, Killjoy, kpaca, orangeandblack5, Trisscar, Tubba Fett
Vote History:
Slothful - Tubba Fett
tomsloger - Slothful > Killjoy
TerRaine - Tubba Fett > xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Rodemy - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx > Axelrod > Killjoy > Slothful > Killjoy
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Rhand - Slothful > Killjoy
Jackrito - orangeandblack5
It takes 9 to elim, and Day 2 Deadline is July 11th, 2020 at 1715 PST. There will likely be a twilight phase.
kpaca is V/LA.
Slothful is V/LA.
the main reason i never followed up on this was because i forgot that poison was also multitabling with the mafia championships at the time, and i 100% do not blame her for focusing that over this
and i don't necessarily want to go into it deeper than that. would prefer to just analyze that slot through rand, i think
swear to god i'm hemorrhaging brain cells by the day
*narrows eyes* Wheel of Time, or something else?
It doesn’t make sense as any alignment really. There must be a way of spreading or there’s more than one.
What do you mean there’s never a mafia WinCon?
Read your role pm again. I’m sure there’s going to be something there about controlling the lynch.
That was a backtrack after being very adamant about it before.
Point still stands: you were using the setup. That’s not your normal play. You leave setup talk to others normally.
Catching up on today's posts i find this gross.
Is like streching something to fit your ideas. But it's in the oposite direction with reality.
Also making associative reads before a wolf flip is antitown.