Silvercrys Presents: Matter Mafia Based on a science fiction novel by Iain M. Banks Reviewed by Cantripmancer and Bur
(This is a closed set up Normal game for 16 players. The introduction, role PMs, and flavor may contain spoilers for the novel.)
A light breeze produced a dry rattling sound from some nearby bushes. It lifted delicate little veils of dust from a few sandy patches nearby and shifted a lock of dark hair across the forehead of the woman sitting on the wood and canvas camp chair which was perched, not quite level, on a patch of bare rock near the edge of a low ridge looking out over the scrub and sand of the desert. In the distance, trembling through the heat haze, was the straight line of the road. Some scrawny trees, few taller than one man standing on another’s shoulders, marked the course of the dusty highway. Further away, tens of kilometres beyond the road, a line of dark, jagged mountains shimmered in the baking air.
By most human standards the woman was tall, slim and well muscled. Her hair was short and straight and dark and her skin was the colour of pale agate. There was nobody of her specific kind within several thousand light years of where she sat, though if there had been they might have said that she was somewhere between being a young woman and one at the very start of middle age. They would, however, have thought she looked somewhat short and bulky. She was dressed in a pair of wide, loose-fitting pants and a thin, cool-looking jacket, both the same shade as the sand. She wore a wide black hat to shade her from the late morning sun, which showed as a harsh white point high in the cloudless, pale green sky. She raised a pair of very old and worn-looking binoculars to her night-dark eyes and looked out towards the point where the desert road met the horizon to the west. There was a folding table to her right holding a glass and a bottle of chilled water. A small backpack lay underneath. She reached out with her free hand and lifted the glass from the table, sipping at the water while still looking through the ancient field glasses...
Welcome to Matter Mafia!
Backups Recorded (Alive)
1. Grapefruit21 dawningbluesky
2. ZeDorkSlipeur
3. Gentleman Johnny
5. Jackrito
7. shadowlancerx
8. tomsloger
9. Vaimes
10. Lastwhisper
11. Umami 12. M plus 7 Slothful
15. Killjoy
Stardust (Dead)
14. ITF, The WorldGod, Town Vanilla, executed by majority vote Day 1
6. TubbaFett, The Sarcophagus, Mafia ???, executed by majority vote Day 2
16. Axelrod, Earl Droffo, Town Bodyguard, killed Night 2
4. Rhand, Pone Hippense, Town Desperado, died during Day 2
13. Rodemy, Klatsli Quike, Town Vanilla, executed by the Judge Day 3
Reviewing Files (Replacements)
1. Ecophagy
2. Prophylaxis
3.
Boring Stuff
General Rules
0: I am the game host, which means I am the final arbiter of role interactions and game rule infringements. I will never lie or intentionally mislead you. If you have a problem with a ruling I make please shelve it until post game. To the best of my and my reviewer(s)’ knowledge this is not a bastard game.
1: Mafia is a game, we’re here to have fun. Please be respectful of your fellow players. Sometimes emotions run high and we get caught up in the moment. This is not an excuse for flaming or poor sportsmanship.
2: When generating (or faking, as applicable) reads, please do not use angleshooting or out of game knowledge to the best of your ability. This means do not use the timing, reasons, or order of substitutions and modkills to influence others, do not use the timing or phrasing of role PMs to influence others, do not make alignment bets with out of game consequences, do not speculate on reason for replacement, and do not use “trust tells” or similar. This list is not exhaustive.
3: If you have a question about your role or a rules interaction, please PM me or message me on Discord. I will not answer questions posed to me in the game thread other than questions about vote counts or deadlines. If you raise a question that needs addressing to the entire game (regarding a special rule or similar) I will anonymize your question and announce the answer.
4: Do not talk about this game outside of this thread and discord links or PMs given to you in your role PM or approved by me. Please ensure I am copied on PMs sent to other players. This is a modkillable offense.
5: No funny business. Do not use invisible text, cryptography, tiny writing, hidden messages, acronym/alphabet claims, or similar. This is a modkillable offense.
6: Do not directly quote your role PM or any private communications (Discord, etc.) when posting in the main game thread. This includes mason chats and scum chats. Please paraphrase - if you are in doubt, ask me before posting! This is a modkillable offense.
7: Do not edit, delete, or thank posts. Even if it’s an accidental double post. This is a modkillable offense.
8: Please post content at least once every 48 hours. Content is, of course, subjective, but “Posting to avoid prod,” “catching up,” or similar short not-really-game-related posts are obviously not content. If you need to be absent for an extended period of time please post “V/LA until [Date]” in bold on its own line in the thread so that I and the other players know when you’ll be back. You do not need to explain your reasons for being absent in thread. If you will be gone for more than four or five days you should consider requesting replacement.
9: Do not publicly accuse others of rule breaking/cheating. If you believe someone has broken one or more of these rules, message me directly.
10: You are responsible for following all forum and subforum rules and guidelines. Forum-wide rules are available here, and our subforum specific Mafia rules are in the Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules thread (spoilered here for convenience):
-Game Limit-
Players may participate in only three games at any given time. An exception to this rule can be made by moderators in need of a replacement for a game, if no other replacement can be found.
-Suicide-
If you no longer wish to participate in a game for any reason, contact the moderator. Do NOT attempt to force the moderator to modkill you.
-Current Game Discussion-
A player in an ongoing game may not discuss that game with any other player in that game, or in public forums. Also, it is a good idea to ask permission before discussing the game with anyone outside the game, because they can no longer replace into the game once any meaningful discussion takes place.
-Cryptoclaims-
Unless explicitly authorized by the game moderator in their opening rules section, cryptoclaims are forbidden.
-Out-of-game Promises-
Players may not use out-of-game promises (example: I swear on my grandmother's life, I bet you my entire collection of magic cards, etc.) in an effort to influence other players.
-Multiple Players On One Account-
"Hydra" accounts - multiple people playing and posting as one player with shared access to the "gimmick" account, are not allowed unless they have prior approval from the specific game Moderator. Please do not do this on your own.
-Traitor/Alignment Switching Roles-
Game moderators are strongly encouraged to be extraordinarily careful if they seek to include a traitor role in their designs. These roles are notorious for causing games to implode, for creating fairness concerns, and for the challenge they pose to the town's behavioral analysis. (See Discussion in Council Thread, Post 3351, onwards.)
Please note that bold red text is permitted by non-moderators in this subforum for town/scum lists, game host actions, and similar. Just don’t use it excessively.
TL;DR: Be excellent to each other, post something substantial every 48 hours, ask me questions in private when possible, don’t edit or delete posts unless your role explicitly allows it, no funny business involving cryptography, etc. and... have fun, that’s the whole point. Deadlines Day phases will have a deadline equal to 11 days until Day 5. Starting Day 5 the deadline will be 5 days.
Night phases will last for as close to 48 hours as I can manage, but the deadline for night actions will be 47 hours until Day 5 so I can open the thread promptly when Day begins. Starting on Day 5 the night phase will be 24 hours with an action deadline of 23 hours.
This game contains an additional mandatory 24 hour twilight phase. At the end of the Day phase (by deadline or majority) there will be at least 24 hours of game time before the flip is posted and the thread is closed for the Night phase (this will not change on Day 5).
I will post the deadline and approximate time remaining until the deadline at start of day and when I post official vote counts. I will try to PM players with unsubmitted night actions 24 hours before the action deadline as a reminder, but try not to rely on this. Executions
Players will be executed once a simple majority of votes for that player is achieved (i.e. majority lynch).
If a majority is not achieved by the deadline, no execution will occur. Order of Operations
The short version is, stuff should just work the way you expect it to work. No lists.
The long version is, I use a version of Natural Action Resolution called "Reasonable Action Resolution"
If you use an ability on someone, it just works.
In the case of a conflict of some kind, rather than resorting to lists we check the game state at the end of Night rather than checking whether an individual ability happens or not.
Example: if a roleblocker blocks a vig who tries to kill them, instead of trying to figure out whether the vig gets to shoot, we check to see if the roleblocker is dead.
Is the roleblocker dead?
Yes: The vig shot them
No: The roleblocker blocked the vig
As long as each reason for a result has a "no" for each "yes", the result doesn't occur.
You cannot self-target unless your role PM specifies otherwise.
[Active] abilities must be manually activated each time you wish to use them (i.e. you need to PM me, preferably with the intended activation in bold). These abilities can be tracked, roleblocked, and redirected unless otherwise specified.
[Passive] abilities are always active and cannot be tracked, roleblocked or redirected.
Active abilities with a limited number of shots will expend a shot when activated even if they fail to resolve. Passive abilities with a limited number of shots will automatically expend shots when used.
Killing a player does not prevent them from using night actions or being targeted by other night actions.
The Mafia Factional Night Kill is an [Active] ability that is assigned to one member of the Mafia team. It can be tracked, roleblocked, redirected, etc. if the assigned player is targeted with one of those abilities.
There is a limit of one night action per player per night. The Mafia Factional Night Kill does not count towards this limit.
Mafia day chat is enabled for this game.
I will be using Ecophagy’s vote counter to total your votes.
Creating vote counts is much easier for me (and you!) with this tool, however it places some restrictions on your vote formatting.
Here is the complete list of voting rules:
Make sure your votes are bolded. Please keep nicknames reasonable.
Unvotes must stand alone (instead of using "unvote: player X", simply use "unvote").
A player cannot vote and then afterwards unvote in the same post (the program looks for unvotes before votes).
Do not use extraneous punctuation in your vote. A single “:” after the word “vote” is permitted but not required.
You must have a space between the word "vote" and the name of the player you wish to vote. If you use a colon, the space must appear after the colon. Ex.: [b]Vote shadowlancerx[/b] or [b]Vote: shadowlancerx[/b]
You cannot use italics or colors when voting unless you place the bold tags the innermost tags. Ex: [color=blue][b]Vote: shadowlancerx[/b][/color]
Do not put extra spaces between your vote and formatting tags. This kills the vote.
If your vote was not counted, simply vote again. "Incorrect" vote counts will not be altered unless I determine they were uncounted due to an error in the program.
If you accidentally break quote tags that contain someone else's vote, your vote will be changed by the machine and you will need to revote.
In general, if you simply vote using the player’s full name like so: "[b]vote playername[/b]" your vote will be counted.
You can download the tool to generate your own vote counts (Windows only, I believe, but would be happy to be wrong). Note that the "nicknames' field is a comma delineated list that will work incorrectly if you use spaces after the commas. Victory Conditions
The Town victory condition is "You win when all threats to the town are eliminated."
The Mafia victory condition is "You win when your team controls the vote or when nothing can prevent that from happening."
If this game contains a Third Party role your victory conditions are listed in your role PM.
(Faction colors are [dodgerblue], [firebrick], and [mediumseagreen] respectively)
It is Night 0. Please do not post.
Role PMs will be distributed shortly are in your inbox; please reply to your role PM directly to /confirm rather than posting in-thread and ensure you have read the game rules (Boring Stuff), particularly the bolded information on deadlines and the section on Ecophagy's Vote Counter.
Day 1 will begin once at least half of the players have confirmed.
A sample Town Role PM will accompany the start of Day 1 post.
“We are all of one mind here, are we not?” tyl Loesp said smoothly, ignoring the King – ignoring the King! – and looking round everybody present.
A chorus of low, muttered voices gave what must have been assent. “Not you, priest, but no matter,” tyl Loesp told the holy man. “Continue with the reading, if you would.” The priest did as he was instructed, eyes now wide. The doctor’s assistant stared at the King, then glanced at the doctor, who was looking back at him.
Tyl Loesp moved round the broken door, shoving the doctor back, until he stood by the King’s other flank. He crouched a little, inspecting. “A mortal wound indeed, my lord,” he said, shaking his head. “You should have accepted the magic potions our friend Hyrlis offered. I would have.” He plunged one hand into the King’s side, arm disappearing almost to the elbow. The King shrieked. Bur has died during pregame! He was:
Welcome to Matter Mafia, Bur! You are:
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King Hausk, Ruler of Sursamen’s Eighth Town Vanilla (Example Role PM)
“You traitors, you treacherous bastards! Will no one help me? Bastards all! You murder your king!” -- King Hausk
You had just completed the Unification Wars, uniting the whole of Sursamen’s Eighth level under your kingdom, when the alien Oct approached you with disturbing news: forces belonging to the Deldeyn from the Ninth level planned to launch a surprise attack on you from one of the towers used to move between levels. You crushed them on the field in an ambush but suffered a mortal wound, and carried to an old workshop, your life was ended by your best friend, Mertis tyl Loesp, who conspired with your court to take the crown for himself.
Vanilla: You have no weapons other than your voice and your vote.
(Special: You begin the game dead. Sorry.)
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
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Please /confirm you have read and understand your role by replying to this message.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I am glad Vaimes is Town! I do not think Killjoy is Townier! LW could be anything!
Vote: tomsloger
Good game folks.
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Quote from Bateleur »
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I could never be insincere with you, but the gloves are always off with Wispy.
That's good. You'll be safe there.
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Quote from Bateleur »
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Definitely concerned about all these lurkers though.
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Quote from Bateleur »
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Definitely concerned about all these lurkers though.
Random day 1 start time
don't see what the problem is
does this post have a point?
The point was to make you smile, and bring some small measure of joy into an otherwise cold and harsh world, especially in these troubling times.
I am sorry I failed you.
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Quote from Bateleur »
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
“They’re about an hour away,” said the machine floating to her left. The machine looked like a scruffy metal suitcase. It moved a little in the air, rotating and tipping as though looking up at the seated woman. “And anyway,” it continued, “you won’t see much at all with those museum pieces.”
She put the glass down on the table again and lowered the binoculars. “They were my father’s,” she said.
“Really.” The drone made a sound that might have been a sigh.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
And it's just a joke vote since...well, according to [reference to a reference I shouldn't reference from someone] I can't say. Let's just say I'm salty
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Silvercrys Presents: Matter Mafia
Based on a science fiction novel by Iain M. Banks
Reviewed by Cantripmancer and Bur
(This is a closed set up Normal game for 16 players. The introduction, role PMs, and flavor may contain spoilers for the novel.)
A light breeze produced a dry rattling sound from some nearby bushes. It lifted delicate little veils of dust from a few sandy patches nearby and shifted a lock of dark hair across the forehead of the woman sitting on the wood and canvas camp chair which was perched, not quite level, on a patch of bare rock near the edge of a low ridge looking out over the scrub and sand of the desert. In the distance, trembling through the heat haze, was the straight line of the road. Some scrawny trees, few taller than one man standing on another’s shoulders, marked the course of the dusty highway. Further away, tens of kilometres beyond the road, a line of dark, jagged mountains shimmered in the baking air.
By most human standards the woman was tall, slim and well muscled. Her hair was short and straight and dark and her skin was the colour of pale agate. There was nobody of her specific kind within several thousand light years of where she sat, though if there had been they might have said that she was somewhere between being a young woman and one at the very start of middle age. They would, however, have thought she looked somewhat short and bulky. She was dressed in a pair of wide, loose-fitting pants and a thin, cool-looking jacket, both the same shade as the sand. She wore a wide black hat to shade her from the late morning sun, which showed as a harsh white point high in the cloudless, pale green sky. She raised a pair of very old and worn-looking binoculars to her night-dark eyes and looked out towards the point where the desert road met the horizon to the west. There was a folding table to her right holding a glass and a bottle of chilled water. A small backpack lay underneath. She reached out with her free hand and lifted the glass from the table, sipping at the water while still looking through the ancient field glasses...
Welcome to Matter Mafia!
Backups Recorded (Alive)
1.
Grapefruit21dawningbluesky2. ZeDorkSlipeur
3. Gentleman Johnny
5. Jackrito
7. shadowlancerx
8. tomsloger
9. Vaimes
10. Lastwhisper
11. Umami
12. M plus 7Slothful15. Killjoy
Stardust (Dead)
14. ITF, The WorldGod, Town Vanilla, executed by majority vote Day 1
6. TubbaFett, The Sarcophagus, Mafia ???, executed by majority vote Day 2
16. Axelrod, Earl Droffo, Town Bodyguard, killed Night 2
4. Rhand, Pone Hippense, Town Desperado, died during Day 2
13. Rodemy, Klatsli Quike, Town Vanilla, executed by the Judge Day 3
Reviewing Files (Replacements)
2. Prophylaxis
3.
Boring Stuff
1: Mafia is a game, we’re here to have fun. Please be respectful of your fellow players. Sometimes emotions run high and we get caught up in the moment. This is not an excuse for flaming or poor sportsmanship.
2: When generating (or faking, as applicable) reads, please do not use angleshooting or out of game knowledge to the best of your ability. This means do not use the timing, reasons, or order of substitutions and modkills to influence others, do not use the timing or phrasing of role PMs to influence others, do not make alignment bets with out of game consequences, do not speculate on reason for replacement, and do not use “trust tells” or similar. This list is not exhaustive.
3: If you have a question about your role or a rules interaction, please PM me or message me on Discord. I will not answer questions posed to me in the game thread other than questions about vote counts or deadlines. If you raise a question that needs addressing to the entire game (regarding a special rule or similar) I will anonymize your question and announce the answer.
4: Do not talk about this game outside of this thread and discord links or PMs given to you in your role PM or approved by me. Please ensure I am copied on PMs sent to other players. This is a modkillable offense.
5: No funny business. Do not use invisible text, cryptography, tiny writing, hidden messages, acronym/alphabet claims, or similar. This is a modkillable offense.
6: Do not directly quote your role PM or any private communications (Discord, etc.) when posting in the main game thread. This includes mason chats and scum chats. Please paraphrase - if you are in doubt, ask me before posting! This is a modkillable offense.
7: Do not edit, delete, or thank posts. Even if it’s an accidental double post. This is a modkillable offense.
8: Please post content at least once every 48 hours. Content is, of course, subjective, but “Posting to avoid prod,” “catching up,” or similar short not-really-game-related posts are obviously not content. If you need to be absent for an extended period of time please post “V/LA until [Date]” in bold on its own line in the thread so that I and the other players know when you’ll be back. You do not need to explain your reasons for being absent in thread. If you will be gone for more than four or five days you should consider requesting replacement.
9: Do not publicly accuse others of rule breaking/cheating. If you believe someone has broken one or more of these rules, message me directly.
10: You are responsible for following all forum and subforum rules and guidelines. Forum-wide rules are available here, and our subforum specific Mafia rules are in the Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules thread (spoilered here for convenience):
Players may participate in only three games at any given time. An exception to this rule can be made by moderators in need of a replacement for a game, if no other replacement can be found.
-Suicide-
If you no longer wish to participate in a game for any reason, contact the moderator. Do NOT attempt to force the moderator to modkill you.
-Current Game Discussion-
A player in an ongoing game may not discuss that game with any other player in that game, or in public forums. Also, it is a good idea to ask permission before discussing the game with anyone outside the game, because they can no longer replace into the game once any meaningful discussion takes place.
-Cryptoclaims-
Unless explicitly authorized by the game moderator in their opening rules section, cryptoclaims are forbidden.
-Out-of-game Promises-
Players may not use out-of-game promises (example: I swear on my grandmother's life, I bet you my entire collection of magic cards, etc.) in an effort to influence other players.
-Multiple Players On One Account-
"Hydra" accounts - multiple people playing and posting as one player with shared access to the "gimmick" account, are not allowed unless they have prior approval from the specific game Moderator. Please do not do this on your own.
-Traitor/Alignment Switching Roles-
Game moderators are strongly encouraged to be extraordinarily careful if they seek to include a traitor role in their designs. These roles are notorious for causing games to implode, for creating fairness concerns, and for the challenge they pose to the town's behavioral analysis. (See Discussion in Council Thread, Post 3351, onwards.)
Deadlines
Day phases will have a deadline equal to 11 days until Day 5. Starting Day 5 the deadline will be 5 days.
Night phases will last for as close to 48 hours as I can manage, but the deadline for night actions will be 47 hours until Day 5 so I can open the thread promptly when Day begins. Starting on Day 5 the night phase will be 24 hours with an action deadline of 23 hours.
This game contains an additional mandatory 24 hour twilight phase. At the end of the Day phase (by deadline or majority) there will be at least 24 hours of game time before the flip is posted and the thread is closed for the Night phase (this will not change on Day 5).
I will post the deadline and approximate time remaining until the deadline at start of day and when I post official vote counts. I will try to PM players with unsubmitted night actions 24 hours before the action deadline as a reminder, but try not to rely on this.
Executions
Players will be executed once a simple majority of votes for that player is achieved (i.e. majority lynch).
If a majority is not achieved by the deadline, no execution will occur.
Order of Operations
The short version is, stuff should just work the way you expect it to work. No lists.
The long version is, I use a version of Natural Action Resolution called "Reasonable Action Resolution"
In the case of a conflict of some kind, rather than resorting to lists we check the game state at the end of Night rather than checking whether an individual ability happens or not.
Example: if a roleblocker blocks a vig who tries to kill them, instead of trying to figure out whether the vig gets to shoot, we check to see if the roleblocker is dead.
As long as each reason for a result has a "no" for each "yes", the result doesn't occur.
Click here for more information or AMA on Discord/via PM.
Other Role Stuff
I will be using Ecophagy’s vote counter to total your votes.
Creating vote counts is much easier for me (and you!) with this tool, however it places some restrictions on your vote formatting.
Here is the complete list of voting rules:
You can download the tool to generate your own vote counts (Windows only, I believe, but would be happy to be wrong). Note that the "nicknames' field is a comma delineated list that will work incorrectly if you use spaces after the commas.
Victory Conditions
The Town victory condition is "You win when all threats to the town are eliminated."
The Mafia victory condition is "You win when your team controls the vote or when nothing can prevent that from happening."
If this game contains a Third Party role your victory conditions are listed in your role PM.
(Faction colors are [dodgerblue], [firebrick], and [mediumseagreen] respectively)
It is Night 0. Please do not post.
Role PMs
will be distributed shortlyare in your inbox; please reply to your role PM directly to /confirm rather than posting in-thread and ensure you have read the game rules (Boring Stuff), particularly the bolded information on deadlines and the section on Ecophagy's Vote Counter.Day 1 will begin once at least half of the players have confirmed.
A sample Town Role PM will accompany the start of Day 1 post.
Bookmarks
End of Day 1
Start of Day 2
End of Day 2
Start of Day 3
A chorus of low, muttered voices gave what must have been assent. “Not you, priest, but no matter,” tyl Loesp told the holy man. “Continue with the reading, if you would.” The priest did as he was instructed, eyes now wide. The doctor’s assistant stared at the King, then glanced at the doctor, who was looking back at him.
Tyl Loesp moved round the broken door, shoving the doctor back, until he stood by the King’s other flank. He crouched a little, inspecting. “A mortal wound indeed, my lord,” he said, shaking his head. “You should have accepted the magic potions our friend Hyrlis offered. I would have.” He plunged one hand into the King’s side, arm disappearing almost to the elbow. The King shrieked.
Bur has died during pregame! He was:
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King Hausk, Ruler of Sursamen’s Eighth
Town Vanilla (Example Role PM)
“You traitors, you treacherous bastards! Will no one help me? Bastards all! You murder your king!” -- King Hausk
You had just completed the Unification Wars, uniting the whole of Sursamen’s Eighth level under your kingdom, when the alien Oct approached you with disturbing news: forces belonging to the Deldeyn from the Ninth level planned to launch a surprise attack on you from one of the towers used to move between levels. You crushed them on the field in an ambush but suffered a mortal wound, and carried to an old workshop, your life was ended by your best friend, Mertis tyl Loesp, who conspired with your court to take the crown for himself.
Vanilla: You have no weapons other than your voice and your vote.
(Special: You begin the game dead. Sorry.)
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
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Please /confirm you have read and understand your role by replying to this message.
This link will take you to the game thread.
Good luck!
Not Voting - 16 (Grapefruit21, ZeDorkSlipeur, Gentleman Johnny, Rhand, Jackrito, Tubba Fett, shadowlancerx, tomsloger, Vaimes, Lastwhisper, Umami, M plus 7, Rodemy, ITF, Killjoy, Axelrod)
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to achieve majority. Day 1 ends at 11:59:59 on 22 April 2020.
It is now Day 1. You may begin posting.
If your vote is uncounted and I didn't say why, please PM me or DM me on Discord so I can investigate.
Vote Killjoy
Vote Jackarito
it comes and it goes
Im pretty sure Vaimes just insulted meVote: tomsloger
Good game folks.
I could never be insincere with you, but the gloves are always off with Wispy.
Oh man it's gonna be fun roasting him and all he can do is watch and weep.
don't see what the problem is
does this post have a point?
I am sorry I failed you.
vote wisp
am I missing a punch line or something?
hurt me more daddy
I am going to play FF7
On a scale of 1 to Sloth.
She put the glass down on the table again and lowered the binoculars. “They were my father’s,” she said.
“Really.” The drone made a sound that might have been a sigh.
Jackrito - 1 (Killjoy)
tomsloger - 1 (Axelrod)
Not Voting - 12 (Grapefruit21, ZeDorkSlipeur, Gentleman Johnny, Rhand, Jackrito, Tubba Fett, shadowlancerx, Lastwhisper, Umami, M plus 7, Rodemy, ITF)
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to achieve a majority. Day 1 ends at 11:59:59 EDT on 22 April 2020.
If your vote is uncounted and I didn't say why, please PM me or DM me on Discord so I can investigate.
Vaimes, nooooooo
I thought umami voted Wisp there to make a train in him. NVM my question.
No what?