I'm fine with Rhand desperading any of KJ/Whispy/Sloth/Jack. KJ and Whispy for having the best odds of actually shooting scum, Sloth and Jack for being big question marks (and still having decent odds of shooting scum).
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Whispy, there is no point in going after Rhand *at all* unless his claim is either proven fake, or is somehow not proven anything.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I jailed KJ last night, so he is not the killer or the roleblocker. This isn’t clearing, but it makes him less likely, and in the event that we flip 2 scum and one of them isn’t a role blocker/something that explains why GJ’s watch failed, then KJ is clear.
Ok so Vaimes wants to be shot and Jackrito wants to be shot.
The difference though: Jack assumes he would die when shot. Which makes him... drumroll... mafia!
Yes I'm clearly mafia who hates himself and team so much I want to die for no reason. I misread your role that is dumb both of us should die if you hit town.
I jailed KJ last night, so he is not the killer or the roleblocker. This isn’t clearing, but it makes him less likely, and in the event that we flip 2 scum and one of them isn’t a role blocker/something that explains why GJ’s watch failed, then KJ is clear.
Hard no on KJ being shot at by Rhand.
thats dece. Minimum it means =!rand for him is 2/8 instead of 3/9 (barring strongman)
Ok so Vaimes wants to be shot and Jackrito wants to be shot.
The difference though: Jack assumes he would die when shot. Which makes him... drumroll... mafia!
Yes I'm clearly mafia who hates himself and team so much I want to die for no reason. I misread your role that is dumb both of us should die if you hit town.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Chance to flip scum + if they end up townfirmed they can just spend their limited <****s to give on this game> reading and solving over whatever it is theyre doing now
Chance to flip scum + if they end up townfirmed they can just spend their limited <****s to give on this game> reading and solving over whatever it is theyre doing now
Ok I just did a quick Iso of Grape, why is he so much better then me or Sloth this game. The only real push he has done is on Me. Apart from that not really done a lot but hard defend Umani. Even their view on Tubba yesterday was hardly a real commitment more just a shadow looks better. Tubba had pretty much died by then though with lack of posts. He also has cleared a lot of people really easily.
Ok I just did a quick Iso of Grape, why is he so much better then me or Sloth this game. The only real push he has done is on Me. Apart from that not really done a lot but hard defend Umani. Even their view on Tubba yesterday was hardly a real commitment more just a shadow looks better. Tubba had pretty much died by then though with lack of posts. He also has cleared a lot of people really easily.
Why would you reread Grape when I’m doubting between you, Whisp and Sloth?
He did justify it a bunch though (a bunch relative to tubba)
I have no positive thoughts about lasts own posts, but still wouldnt shoot over jack/sloth/kj
Or vaimes/grape prolly
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Whispy, there is no point in going after Rhand *at all* unless his claim is either proven fake, or is somehow not proven anything.
that makes
shadow
Johnny
Rhand
Jack
Zds
Rodemy
all confirmed town. (In my world)
leaving
Grapefruit21
tomsloger
Vaimes
Lastwhisper
Umami
Slothful
Killjoy
leaving 2/3 left in there.
I’d say our odds are great.
Jack, Whisp, tom or Sloth.
2) Jack & Sloth
10) tom
GJ/shadow/zds
Umami
Last
Rod/Grape
Vaimes
Sloth/kj/jack
I will reread one more time before doing that.
I don’t know what I was thinking not having KJ in that shortlist though.
@ZDS/Shadow: Still Whisp if KJ is added to the mix?
Also I wouldn't shoot me. My role is highly proveable.
Tom how do you think I'm scum now?
Autocorrect in this window is awful.
Hard no on KJ being shot at by Rhand.
Yes I'm clearly mafia who hates himself and team so much I want to die for no reason. I misread your role that is dumb both of us should die if you hit town.
@Rhand: Tubba was scum in Low Fantasy, not sure since then.
I have 2 days off after today so can actually put work into this properly. Since now I know shot won't kill me and I doubt you all lynch me today.
Speaking of I plan to relook at Grape to see what he has done apart from push me all game. Also look at Tubbas posts myself.
Looks like that was his first ever game
He didn’t interact with buddies at all in that game and kept his vote on 1 townie the whole time he was alive.
Also I'm not claiming.
I tried to drill powerwolfing into him. Hes certainly seen it be successful then and since. I like to think hed go for it
@rhand: you could see what Sloth has to say.
And no you shouldnt now
Chance to flip scum + if they end up townfirmed they can just spend their limited <****s to give on this game> reading and solving over whatever it is theyre doing now
A bit uncalled for but fair enough.
It's such an interesting thing to assume bussing, when I don't even like to bus, and even without that piece of meta, it's still a bad shot
Or even Tom
Why would you reread Grape when I’m doubting between you, Whisp and Sloth?