Quote from Rhand »KJ likes everyone, Umami feels like she’s looking for permission to scumread me and Sloth... look at this:
He calls himself noncommittal. Now iso him and read what he writes about me.
He is committed to the read in his words, but he doesn’t realise that because he knows the read is wrong.
Quote from Umami »Also, I don't know why early commitment to reads is viewed as such a town trait--I know a lot of people use this as an indicator but to me it just doesn't make sense and is easy to fake. Rhand, I also know you're supposed to be great at reading people, so I don't want to dismiss your reads but I also don't want to blindly trust them, especially with no explanation because I assume you're good at being scum too. I'm not someone who thinks I can solve right out of the gate and I think by doing that you probably become more invested in proving yourself right than actually figuring it out. I'm an easy bus--it's something that's become abundantly clear to me. As town, at least online, I can't talk my way out of a mislynch. I assume you can talk your way out of anything. Why in the world would I set up a situation for you against me? There's a 50% chance you're scum--I'm not going to give you a pass and blindly trust you even though I know you can easily get others to dismiss me. Why would you want me to?
Quote from Rhand »@GJ: that’s what I was saying all along. Spies don’t care. Which makes Vaimes not a spy.
Quote from Vaimes »Ha!
Sorry Sloth, looks can only take you so far.
Quote from Killjoy »KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Quote from Killjoy »@Sloth:
Umami: It's not that there's something I feel you should explicitly commit to... its like... you keep having situations where you could commit, but don't. Like GJ said, it's eyebrow-worthy.
Like, it's natural to commit. We think things, have opinions when we read things. You're just... not. Which is what I'm trying to say there.
Quote from Grapefruit21 »And I'm permanently paranoid about getting pocketed. Our fearless moderator has a lot to do with that...
Quote from tomsloger »eh. as a community were sort of dicks to everyone.
Quote from Vaimes »Yeah, I tunneled Silver all game and now I'm going to magically try and save him.
Quote from Killjoy »Rhand is jumping to conclusions that aren't necessarily true, which is a thing he does. It's NAI.
Shadow, I like how much he's thinking ahead with 62. I like the... efficiency he's trying to achieve with his plan. I'm willing to vote with it.
Umami as I said is coming off as noncommital initially. Could be a thing, but we'll see I guess.
GJ is sitting back and analyzing stuff, which is a thing he does. It's NAI.
Vaimes is doing stuff, and is fine?
Sloth also doing things, and is also fine?
I do not think that volunteering to be in the first mission is telling at all unless it fails.
Quote from shadowlancerx »@Sloth was playing games and seeing close family. So what thoughts do you have on your proposal?
Happy Easter y’all.
Quote from Umami »Wait, what? You guys vote for the first mission to go? Why would you ever do that?
Quote from Slothful »Quote from shadowlancerx »@Sloth was playing games and seeing close family. So what thoughts do you have on your proposal?
Happy Easter y’all.happy happy. Also that's really nice!
Meaning you/me/vaimes? Considering it. Not proposing anything just yet.
@all what are each of your thoughts on shadow's idea.
@grape do I have a deadline?
Quote from tomsloger »
plus our fearless moderator ******* loves no lynching. i'd believe he designed the game to make it the right choice.
nicely done ashley
Quote from Rhand »Umami why didn’t you talk about that doing more nominations thing earlier?
Quote from Umami »There's an 80% chance there's a bad guy on the first mission. Granted, that doesn't mean I have a reason to believe it will fail, but it does mean that it doesn't give me any useable information if it passes. You guys think there's little information to gain by seeing who everyone chooses as a partner--I think there is valuable information. There's no increase risk in terms of the first mission failing by having more nominations but there is potential information gain, so to me it's a very clear risk/benefit.
In any case your 99.9% argument is not at all based in fact...
Quote from Rhand »I like what Umami is saying, but sinc eit’s after the fact, I have no idea what to think about it :/
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »God the worst thing about muilti tabbing: Having two tabs that are infinite pacman.
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »Quote from Umami »There's an 80% chance there's a bad guy on the first mission. Granted, that doesn't mean I have a reason to believe it will fail, but it does mean that it doesn't give me any useable information if it passes. You guys think there's little information to gain by seeing who everyone chooses as a partner--I think there is valuable information. There's no increase risk in terms of the first mission failing by having more nominations but there is potential information gain, so to me it's a very clear risk/benefit.
In any case your 99.9% argument is not at all based in fact...
Sure, but the bad guy doesn't want it to fail. They want to bne put on a mission where there is more doubt. Failing the first mission creates a dichotomy where either him, or the other guy won't ever be trusted. Sometimes both.