Hm. Maybe Flarg is a wolf vig. I don't know, but 15 players is an odd number for only 3 wolves unless they have some power. 15 is also a rough game for 4 wolves.
think just based on claim, 15 players, and 4 known town PRs. and trying to keep my mind blank on flargs play
Im at:
3 scum + SKflarg
3 scum with wolfvigflarg
4 scum with townvigflarg
Most to least likely
This is just nonsense. One does not give wolves more than 1 extra vig shot ever. Having a town vig makes a lot more sense.
And we're not lynching a possible SK toDay. I forgot who (ZDS?) said it, but the SK is forced to play pro-town now if there is one. A neutral flip gives us nothing to work with toMorrow.
We're also not massclaiming. I want mafia to be unsure whether or not they should deal with me toNight. And I might not be the only PR left. There's no point in outing anyone else.
So far we have 2 masons and a vanilla claim and an unclaimed PR (me) alive. It's better to have mafia shoot in there than give them all the info.
If we don't hit mafia toDay, we should massclaim toMorrow.
im open to debate about which is more likely between townvig and scumvig i suppose, but kinda think its SK by a lot.
And if hes SK the most protown he can play is by dying today i think.
That would be, presumably, 7-1-3 right now
Lynch him, 1 town dies at night,
6v3 tomorrow. Manageable.
7-2 if we're lucksacks. Easy.
But
Lynch town today. 2? die at night
Goes to either 4-1-3 or 5-1-2
Which are both worse
Lynch scum. 2 die at night.
6-1-1 or 5-1-2
Thats better really only if he kills scum. Which
He wouldnt really want to in that scenario
Obviously the fail case is if hes town vig.
You buying that?
While also maintaining your claim of another PR?
If other PR's claim, we don't know if they're true or not. But mafia does. It informs them about best kill targets while we, barring a counterclaim, don't advance.
And yes, mafia now has to choose whether to kill the unclaimed PR or a mason. Giving them my role will make that choice easy.
They clearly don't care. And if you haven't been roleblocked or redirected, they probably bare minimum have a rolecop. And you were anything but subtle. You basically screamed 'I have a PR.'
The masons group BP largely removes my anti massclaim opinion. Was tryna hide a doc or something lol
Id also like to note though that rhand handwaving flarg and saying SK has to play protown (spoiler: maybe but i wouldnt count on it) is extra cool when he and flarg (and vaimes) can send messages every day...
The masons group BP largely removes my anti massclaim opinion. Was tryna hide a doc or something lol
Id also like to note though that rhand handwaving flarg and saying SK has to play protown (spoiler: maybe but i wouldnt count on it) is extra cool when he and flarg (and vaimes) can send messages every day...
To be fair, he does. If he misfires again, that's game.
The puzzling part to me, is with seemingly no other abilities and Rhand not claiming being roleblocked, why haven't the wolves stopped Flarg? If he isn't a wolf, that's a giant threat that will eventually be let loose.
In a not so amusing way, that could be the one town read that I have on rod could be town: The wolves really a vig/sk take a 50/50 chance on shooting Rodemy?
In a not so amusing way, that could be the one town read that I have on rod could be town: The wolves really a vig/sk take a 50/50 chance on shooting Rodemy?
i mean, could be mafia doc or even jailkeeper targetting rod if hes scum
Or busdrive
Or mafia share a bp like masons did?
In a not so amusing way, that could be the one town read that I have on rod could be town: The wolves really a vig/sk take a 50/50 chance on shooting Rodemy?
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline has expired with no majority reached.
Time Off For Good Behavior
Despite some rubbing of shoulders, and menacing looks, it was a quiet day in prison.
All day phases will have a deadline equal to 10 days, scaling down as the number of players in the game decreases. I strongly encourage you to plan on attempting to secure a lynch threshold 24 hours before the actual deadline. This is not a rule, but a measure you as players can take to prevent unwanted no lynches that often cause the game to stagnate.
It is now Night 2. Cell chats are now open. Day 3 begins March 17 at 2000 MST.
Pretty clearly wasn't going to be Rodemy.
I'm doubting wether we shouldn't just be lynching Rodemy. With Zionite flipping town, I have a hard time believing we had T/T wagons yesterDay and didn't manage a lynch.
In a not so amusing way, that could be the one town read that I have on rod could be town: The wolves really a vig/sk take a 50/50 chance on shooting Rodemy?
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline has expired with no majority reached.
Time Off For Good Behavior
Despite some rubbing of shoulders, and menacing looks, it was a quiet day in prison.
All day phases will have a deadline equal to 10 days, scaling down as the number of players in the game decreases. I strongly encourage you to plan on attempting to secure a lynch threshold 24 hours before the actual deadline. This is not a rule, but a measure you as players can take to prevent unwanted no lynches that often cause the game to stagnate.
It is now Night 2. Cell chats are now open. Day 3 begins March 17 at 2000 MST.
Pretty clearly wasn't going to be Rodemy.
I'm doubting wether we shouldn't just be lynching Rodemy. With Zionite flipping town, I have a hard time believing we had T/T wagons yesterDay and didn't manage a lynch.
How is that "pretty clearly" not Rodemy? Flarg took another damned hero shot.
Maybe he has a reason im not seeing, but my general opinion is that his claim/timing thereof was... extremely suboptimal if hes town or SK. Claim is ok i guess if hes scum but then the shots are.
I dont fully know how to evaluate strategy i dont understand
So im skipping it and going mechanics they tell me hes not town and the numbers say that makes him best lynch
I mean he already said he was dealing with pandemicy stuff.
Hes presumably in a job that *still exists* #loltomandhiszeroskillsoutsideatheater
Also said he was in washington which is about half the US deaths aorn
each person puts them in the order they want to kill them.
tally it up. Lynch the top. Shoot the second.
I am almost sure it will get me killed but it will also help.
We start in this order:
Vaimes
Tubba
ZDS
Last
Gj
Tom
ywf
Rhand
Rodemy
Jack
any opposed?
Opposed. Apart from the absolute chaos that would ensure, we are still trying to figure out mass claim or no mass claim. Whether flarg gets dealt with...or you.
Make a case on me if you have this much time to burn. Or vaimes, or whoever else you are wolf reading.
like idk understand, if I was flarg, and lets say I am SK, I would be having a field day right now, its literally so easy to play my town meta, probably not die, and probably? find mafia
but if he is town? what is he doing right now?
I need to figure out if he is town, if he is evil, we should just kill him today so that we stop this game from swinging so much
cause if he is SK he clearly isnt trying to find wolves, and if we keep losing two town this game will end fast
even if he is a town vig, I don't believe he has two shots, there is just no way, especially given we have a flipped roleblocker, and a 3 person masonry
if he is a mafia vig, like having two shots just feels like crazy power
Honestly, I don't want to deal with another Rodemy situation (the replacing in with pressure and desire to lynch, nothing personal against Rodemy himself)
Do we just want to go here and see where the chips fall?
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This overconfidence... Why do you think your reads are any better?
The bare bare, minimum is that he is wrong on me. Pretty sure vaimes is the only close to correct wolf he has.
ugh
unvote
And if hes SK the most protown he can play is by dying today i think.
That would be, presumably, 7-1-3 right now
Lynch him, 1 town dies at night,
6v3 tomorrow. Manageable.
7-2 if we're lucksacks. Easy.
But
Lynch town today. 2? die at night
Goes to either 4-1-3 or 5-1-2
Which are both worse
Lynch scum. 2 die at night.
6-1-1 or 5-1-2
Thats better really only if he kills scum. Which
He wouldnt really want to in that scenario
Obviously the fail case is if hes town vig.
You buying that?
While also maintaining your claim of another PR?
They clearly don't care. And if you haven't been roleblocked or redirected, they probably bare minimum have a rolecop. And you were anything but subtle. You basically screamed 'I have a PR.'
The GJ way path to no lynching:
If the team is something like tom/zds +1, good for ******* them.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Id also like to note though that rhand handwaving flarg and saying SK has to play protown (spoiler: maybe but i wouldnt count on it) is extra cool when he and flarg (and vaimes) can send messages every day...
To be fair, he does. If he misfires again, that's game.
The puzzling part to me, is with seemingly no other abilities and Rhand not claiming being roleblocked, why haven't the wolves stopped Flarg? If he isn't a wolf, that's a giant threat that will eventually be let loose.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Or busdrive
Or mafia share a bp like masons did?
Too many variables
Pretty clearly wasn't going to be Rodemy.
I'm doubting wether we shouldn't just be lynching Rodemy. With Zionite flipping town, I have a hard time believing we had T/T wagons yesterDay and didn't manage a lynch.
He wouldnt want either side to get far enough ahead ti have time to kill him.
I mean, he already broke the cardinal rule as sk: Don't ******* claim vig.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
How is that "pretty clearly" not Rodemy? Flarg took another damned hero shot.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I dont fully know how to evaluate strategy i dont understand
So im skipping it and going mechanics they tell me hes not town and the numbers say that makes him best lynch
Imo
Sigh
Flarg absolutely doing nothing but keeping his head down is making me even more itchy.
Vote Flarg
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Hes presumably in a job that *still exists* #loltomandhiszeroskillsoutsideatheater
Also said he was in washington which is about half the US deaths aorn
This doesn't have to be a part of it
I understand the situation, and him not being here is pretty NAI considering....well....everything.
99%, it's the get the SK out of here, and kind of hope he is actually a wolf.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
if we keep him alive he should shoot one of those three.
Yes I know I can’t convince you. But Johnny has a very fake vibe in his 2608.
Lemme think from scum perspective
wait
there are 11 alive
thats 8/3 but with a neutral it’s
7/1/3
Kill the neutral and scum get a kill
6/3
Or we kill town!flarg and scum get a kill
5/3
Okay. If we leave flarg Alivve he probably shoots me or I get lynched
If I get lynched flarg shoots town and scum get town
and flarg is Nuet
5/1/3
If flarg is just straight up scum... then we are ****ed if we don’t lynch him.
okay! Mechanically flarg is the best brt.
I dint like it but I’ll hammer if he gets there
Oops
Curious
Lynch Nuet!Flarg scum get a kill
6/3
then lylo.
8/3
Lynch town!flarg
scum get a kill
6/3
Hey why don’t we get flarg to actually claim his alignment? At this point it would help us and he might not die
Though i left out:
Lynch townflarg
Nightkill
Probably 5v4
Lylo forever
Oh *****
You think there is 4 scum?
Tom why?
No *****.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
make a list of all the people Minus flarg
each person puts them in the order they want to kill them.
tally it up. Lynch the top. Shoot the second.
I am almost sure it will get me killed but it will also help.
We start in this order:
Vaimes
Tubba
ZDS
Last
Gj
Tom
ywf
Rhand
Rodemy
Jack
any opposed?
sharing the sassy pants with vaimes I see.
Like full flarg claim.
You are astonishingly naive if you think he is going to claim SK.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Opposed. Apart from the absolute chaos that would ensure, we are still trying to figure out mass claim or no mass claim. Whether flarg gets dealt with...or you.
Make a case on me if you have this much time to burn. Or vaimes, or whoever else you are wolf reading.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
But if flarg is a town vig along with KJs roleblocker and the bulletproof masons, yes i think it would have to be 4 scum
I am going back to tom
and removing myself from caring
cause I can't tell who is stupid or malicious anymore
vote: Tom
bye
Get better reads then.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
but if he is town? what is he doing right now?
I need to figure out if he is town, if he is evil, we should just kill him today so that we stop this game from swinging so much
cause if he is SK he clearly isnt trying to find wolves, and if we keep losing two town this game will end fast
even if he is a town vig, I don't believe he has two shots, there is just no way, especially given we have a flipped roleblocker, and a 3 person masonry
if he is a mafia vig, like having two shots just feels like crazy power
he just has to be SK here
This overconfidence... Why do you think your reads are any better?
Think hes prolly SK and the correct lynch
Being neutral fits his play too. Hes against things but not actually for anything.
Full claim changes nothing for me regardless.
If hes town ill take my mislynch tomorrow and responsibility for the loss tbh
ok I botched that last one
Why do you think your reads are any better?
Why are you against lynching Flarg?
@Rodemy
same to you, why are you against Flarg?
outside mechanically claiming Vig? why does he look town?
Do we just want to go here and see where the chips fall?
The bare bare, minimum is that he is wrong on me. Pretty sure vaimes is the only close to correct wolf he has.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I am at least trying to solve the game while you threw out the “rodemy hasn’t been lynched yet but almost has been. Curious” post
you are not solving the game
you are just throwing out random PoE's
and clearly not reading
lmao what are these, "no u", arguements