Cause I was scum with him last game. And I was also part of the previous game where he was scum. I felt like I should comment on him because I should be able to discern some scummines/ towniness from him after these games, but right now I'm at nothing.
"I guess I need to say something, so I'm just going to say something non-committal and vague"
I understand where Axelrod is coming from with his vote on Kitty, but the rumors of him killing RVS with that vote is greatly exaggerated and don't like how that's being leveraged to criticize Gemma for a late RVS vote.
I don't understand why someone softs that they have a "scummy" role - like, is it pro-scum (like PGO) where you need to out it to mitigate damage or is it just going to be a *****ty claim when you're at L-2? If it's the former, why not claim? If it's the latter, why hint at something like that at all instead of trying to draw a kill first? I don't think the half claim is doing anyone good here and since scum already knows you're nothing to be afraid of, why not full claim and give the town a little something more to work with?
Like look at this post. I had to go back to check who accused axelrod of killing RVS and it's just silver. Nobody even commented on that thing, so I have no idea where "greatly exaggerated comes from.
And the second part feels like total rolefishing. If you want to see the claim just vote, don't stand on the sidelines and sling mud.
I hate that she seized on this, it's effortless and convenient. That post from Nacho is actually a decent chunk of the reason behind my town read on him... scum just don't make posts like this that are just completely wrong on every scale and easily debunked by reading like 15 posts made before it. It's the kind of mistake over-eager town make when they think they have an "Ah ha!" moment.
It's day 1. You missed almost nothing. KCC claimed a scummy role and nacho tried some rolefishing to get to claim. KCC refused.
This is another one I strongly dislike. This isn't the first time that vezok had thrown shade on Nacho via an accusation of role-fishing, but he had also moved his vote off him long before this and hasn't revisited at all. We'll circle back to this.
Okay it's my usual mafia experience where I just accept that I have no reads for now and chaos will reign until we can successfully trim down the numbers. This'll be fun.
I'm gonna follow the movement and lay down a vote to get discussion going. See where this goes!
VOTE dkingsland967
Yikes. This vote feels Really Bad^TM.
Why would you vote somewhere where there is a wagon when you presumably don't have a scumread on that person or a townread on the people on the wagon?
Is the vote just to cause CHAOS or are you simply this lost in the game? Any thoughts you had behind this vote would really help me sort you better.
This is another post that looks really opportunistic. Why Asta specifically, instead of you or Vaimes who just naked voted me? And why jump on this instead of questioning Nacho's original vote on the wagon, since vezok is supposedly scumreading Nacho?
@last why do you think it's more likely me or Vaimes will get lunched if we're town?
Posts like these seem sincere and don't seem to come from scum mastermind silver who is feigning the coming up with the question. I don't know why you have him as scum.
I pointed this out yesterday, but that's an oddly low-impact post from Silver to illustrate his "sincerity"... it's like vezok was just looking for a reason to slap a town read on Silver and went with this.
This is a strange grouping for her lynch pile, considering her previous posts. Mindreaver, ok. She's been voting Mind for most of the game. There's Nacho again, although vezok hasn't been actively pushing this. It reminds me one of the things that put me onto scum Grapefruit on D1 of Modern. He kept trying to throw out subtle jabs that Shadowlancer might be scum, but he wouldn't actually push it or do anything to get his hands dirty.
Now, the other three. Rhand... why? Vezok gave Rhand a town read after his large wall of reads earlier in the game and hasn't mentioned him since. I think he's there because there are winds blowing in that direction. Asta... to be fair, vezok did call him/her out for the vote on my wagon, so the inclusion has a precedent, but this is some low-hanging fruit. Me? When has vezok ever voiced suspicion of me? Am I there because I've been voting her?
Now as far as the other part of your question goes (how other players have treated her), I don't really have much to offer there. I don't pay too much attention to interactions on D1 unless something really strikes me as bad/off-the-wall, like the Rhand/fulcrum/Vezok exchange earlier. The only other thing that I can remember is that Axelrod noted it was weird that Vezok was townreading you specifically for the gifs.
dkings: regarding 728, are you scumreading either me or KCC individually? Connecting a 'buddying vibe' to a post implies a scumread somewhere, otherwise it's just soneone stating an opinion that they think is true. She referenced it in Watchmen, trying to get my lynched because she didn't see it (which was a lie, obv). Others like tom have referenced it as well in other games (Eurovision I think) so it's kind of a recent meta thing.
KJ, I believe I've said before that I'm town-reading you. It's the way KCC approached it that looks like she might be trying to pocket you. Silver hit on this as well, there was no explanation or examples, just a definitive blanket statement of "this is town KJ".
I don't like the way Gemma is shading Sloth slot right now. To me he really seems like is away and not just avoiding the game. Scum who are frozen still post some meaningless stuff. Sloth just doesn't post.
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As an FYI, I am closing on replacements for Shadow/Sloth. At the very least I can confirm for all that I will not be mod killing them since I have players offering to replace in if it comes to that.
I hope to have these two slots by Friday. I'm sorry for the lateness, but with holiday season it seems to be hard to find people that are not super busy.
Cause I was scum with him last game. And I was also part of the previous game where he was scum. I felt like I should comment on him because I should be able to discern some scummines/ towniness from him after these games, but right now I'm at nothing.
"I guess I need to say something, so I'm just going to say something non-committal and vague"
I understand where Axelrod is coming from with his vote on Kitty, but the rumors of him killing RVS with that vote is greatly exaggerated and don't like how that's being leveraged to criticize Gemma for a late RVS vote.
I don't understand why someone softs that they have a "scummy" role - like, is it pro-scum (like PGO) where you need to out it to mitigate damage or is it just going to be a *****ty claim when you're at L-2? If it's the former, why not claim? If it's the latter, why hint at something like that at all instead of trying to draw a kill first? I don't think the half claim is doing anyone good here and since scum already knows you're nothing to be afraid of, why not full claim and give the town a little something more to work with?
Like look at this post. I had to go back to check who accused axelrod of killing RVS and it's just silver. Nobody even commented on that thing, so I have no idea where "greatly exaggerated comes from.
And the second part feels like total rolefishing. If you want to see the claim just vote, don't stand on the sidelines and sling mud.
I hate that she seized on this, it's effortless and convenient. That post from Nacho is actually a decent chunk of the reason behind my town read on him... scum just don't make posts like this that are just completely wrong on every scale and easily debunked by reading like 15 posts made before it. It's the kind of mistake over-eager town make when they think they have an "Ah ha!" moment.
It's day 1. You missed almost nothing. KCC claimed a scummy role and nacho tried some rolefishing to get to claim. KCC refused.
This is another one I strongly dislike. This isn't the first time that vezok had thrown shade on Nacho via an accusation of role-fishing, but he had also moved his vote off him long before this and hasn't revisited at all. We'll circle back to this.
Okay it's my usual mafia experience where I just accept that I have no reads for now and chaos will reign until we can successfully trim down the numbers. This'll be fun.
I'm gonna follow the movement and lay down a vote to get discussion going. See where this goes!
VOTE dkingsland967
Yikes. This vote feels Really Bad^TM.
Why would you vote somewhere where there is a wagon when you presumably don't have a scumread on that person or a townread on the people on the wagon?
Is the vote just to cause CHAOS or are you simply this lost in the game? Any thoughts you had behind this vote would really help me sort you better.
This is another post that looks really opportunistic. Why Asta specifically, instead of you or Vaimes who just naked voted me? And why jump on this instead of questioning Nacho's original vote on the wagon, since vezok is supposedly scumreading Nacho?
@last why do you think it's more likely me or Vaimes will get lunched if we're town?
Posts like these seem sincere and don't seem to come from scum mastermind silver who is feigning the coming up with the question. I don't know why you have him as scum.
I pointed this out yesterday, but that's an oddly low-impact post from Silver to illustrate his "sincerity"... it's like vezok was just looking for a reason to slap a town read on Silver and went with this.
This is a strange grouping for her lynch pile, considering her previous posts. Mindreaver, ok. She's been voting Mind for most of the game. There's Nacho again, although vezok hasn't been actively pushing this. It reminds me one of the things that put me onto scum Grapefruit on D1 of Modern. He kept trying to throw out subtle jabs that Shadowlancer might be scum, but he wouldn't actually push it or do anything to get his hands dirty.
Now, the other three. Rhand... why? Vezok gave Rhand a town read after his large wall of reads earlier in the game and hasn't mentioned him since. I think he's there because there are winds blowing in that direction. Asta... to be fair, vezok did call him/her out for the vote on my wagon, so the inclusion has a precedent, but this is some low-hanging fruit. Me? When has vezok ever voiced suspicion of me? Am I there because I've been voting her?
Now as far as the other part of your question goes (how other players have treated her), I don't really have much to offer there. I don't pay too much attention to interactions on D1 unless something really strikes me as bad/off-the-wall, like the Rhand/fulcrum/Vezok exchange earlier. The only other thing that I can remember is that Axelrod noted it was weird that Vezok was townreading you specifically for the gifs.
It's the way KCC approached it that looks like she might be trying to pocket you. Silver hit on this as well, there was no explanation or examples, just a definitive blanket statement of "this is town KJ".
That's not how I pocket kj. My scum play also doesn't tend to include keeping people focused or diverting potential mislynches.
I don't like the way Gemma is shading Sloth slot right now. To me he really seems like is away and not just avoiding the game. Scum who are frozen still post some meaningless stuff. Sloth just doesn't post.
AGAIN WHAT ARE THESE POSTS
if mindreaver is town, you and vaimes actually have the highest scum!equity next
jesus christ man
also being frozen is actually just a meme, because only a small handful of players actually get frozen, if any at all
Sorry for the bad play. I just didn't really care what I was saying.
I'm actually a mason. I can reveal the other person, but it's probably pretty obvious.
Also dk is off my lynch list for that post. He took different stances relating to my posts and I really liked the comment about how I would make that post if I was town who didn't care.
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Something happened that just makes me more confused.
ANyway, I think last is pretty damn town at the moment. Even so there's the thought in the back of my head, that he is setting me up as connected to him in case he flips scum, but that would require him to actually be scum.
@vez: Did you ever explain what it was that confused you here?
Last commented on this post as well, saying how natural it felt, which I completely disagree with. -I could see a townie having a lingering thought of this kind, but I don't think a townie is likely to explain it this way. This feels artificial to me
Axel: I'm not the one advocating his lynch. I'm not the one making a case. Like I said, I was hoping for something saying why he's better than, like, Rhand or something. Or are you scumreading Mind enough to merit a legitimate lynch D1?
Well, I don't know what you mean by a "legitimate" lynch, except I guess it doesn't include lurkers.
If the day ended today I would not be upset with lynching Mindreaver. That's about all I can say there. I don't know he's scum, but I know he's not doing what he said he would do, and he's acting as his own self-meta indicated he would act as scum. And the bravado of his last post was just enough to ring false to me.
Seems like we have a lot of inactives though, which is another issue.
And Vez is claiming confirmed Mason. I will say that's not a role I would have expected in a "Seasons" game with abilities that switch on/off or change from season to season. Mason is just...always on.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
And Vez is claiming confirmed Mason. I will say that's not a role I would have expected in a "Seasons" game with abilities that switch on/off or change from season to season. Mason is just...always on.
Not every role needs to tie into the core mechanic, though I can easily think of some ways it could. In any case, I don't want Vez commenting on this
I don’t know who to vote anymore. I need a fresh reread but don’t have time for that.
And what we really need is for all the lurker slots to start posting. I’ve got this feeling that we are going to eat each other alive while the scumteam just isn’t posting.
And Vez is claiming confirmed Mason. I will say that's not a role I would have expected in a "Seasons" game with abilities that switch on/off or change from season to season. Mason is just...always on.
Not every role needs to tie into the core mechanic, though I can easily think of some ways it could. In any case, I don't want Vez commenting on this
Well, I'm not exactly doubting it right now. I don't feel like Vez was under so much pressure just now that he would have felt he needed to fake a claim like that to survive. Just more noting it for later.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Taking him out of your lynch pool isn't ignoring, it's defending.
defend: resist an attack made on (someone or something); protect from harm or danger.
I don't know what kind of hoops you're jumping through to conflate "defend" and "ignore," but these are very different ideas. Is this supposed to be a partner read? A whiteknighting read? A bad townread?
I'm definitely noticing a trend where the thread is content to focus on LHF. Mind is literally not here, Rhand is D1 lunchbait when he's town (and I don't actively find him scummy this time around), and vezok was kinda passive in a way that makes sense now but was definitely doing her no favors.
I'm just about caught up but I want to reread to fine-tune my reads because lol claim.
Also why can't I have been a mason that would have been so much fun :[
Fwiw Vaimes, that is kind of something I find vaguely scummy about fulcrum itg, I just don't know how much of it is an mtgs thing. Don't really know how to describe it but I think she projects a level of emotionality that is sort of contrived as scum that she doesn't do when town, contrived or no. Like the way she responded to vezok with "but I could have been pocketing you wtf". I'm not really in a position to push her or make her position worse in this game because of the emotional toll, she has extremely high standards for me and it cuts her deep when I get anything wrong, which probably means that I shouldn't be playing mafia with her, but anyway, am happy to try to talk with you about her but count me out of any push you make on her.
I still want to kill Axel. Idk why I forgot to put him in my lynch pool.
You make me sad. I do not reciprocate the sentiment.
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Gemma can you post for a second and make sure that I don't get mod warned for multiposting because I don't have a lot of time but I'm bad saying all the things I want to say without multiposting when I don't have ***** for time.
I know that you probably have other things you'd like to do so I hope I can just get away with it this once by the grace of mods but I'm not that hopeful.
So, 1) I got promoted (yay!).
2) I work in retail and the week of Black Friday is ******* ridiculous.
3) My boss is in the hospital currently which means that I don't have the freedom to leave/take this week less seriously than I might have otherwise.
so chances of me having time from now until Sunday are slim to none. sunday i'm gonna post so much in this game that y'all will be sick of me, but before Sunday? nothing. it would be near and dear to my heart if we didn't come to a lynch decision by then - we have the time, replacements should be posting, everything will be great.
i see and acknowledge the vezok claim and think it's great because i don't have to think about him anymore. there are a lot of people who have dropped goood tells and who i feel confident about now that i've been given time away from this wonderful place. i don't want to lynch a non-poster yet but there's totally scum in shadow/sloth.
@ASTA: I FORMALLY INVITE YOU TO COME POST WITH ME ON SUNDAY.
JUST LET ME KNOW A TIME THAT WORKS FOR YOU AND I WILL BE PRESENT AND SOBER SO WE CAN MAKE ***** HAPPEN TOGETHER
Gemma can you post for a second and make sure that I don't get mod warned for multiposting because I don't have a lot of time but I'm bad saying all the things I want to say without multiposting when I don't have ***** for time.
I know that you probably have other things you'd like to do so I hope I can just get away with it this once by the grace of mods but I'm not that hopeful.
i see and acknowledge the vezok claim and think it's great because i don't have to think about him anymore. there are a lot of people who have dropped goood tells and who i feel confident about now that i've been given time away from this wonderful place. i don't want to lynch a non-poster yet but there's totally scum in shadow/sloth.
I think some time away will probably do me good, anyways - did get the chance to read KCC's recent scumgame (Watchmen, like 7 pages long or I wouldn't have bothered) and most of her posting seemed very agenda-driven, she talked about being a bit nervous at the onset... Doesn't strike me as the type to launch a gambit like the "scummy role" bit...?
Gemma can you post for a second and make sure that I don't get mod warned for multiposting because I don't have a lot of time but I'm bad saying all the things I want to say without multiposting when I don't have ***** for time.
I know that you probably have other things you'd like to do so I hope I can just get away with it this once by the grace of mods but I'm not that hopeful.
Multiposting isn't really banned anymore, thankfully, though "excessive" multiposting falls under the rule against spamming (this only applies to the forum subforum unless Shadow got it changed when he got admin'd, the rest of the site has a zero tolerance policy for double posting).
I believe Vezok's claim. Kind of want the partner to out, too, though. Worst case scenario is they're a strong player who was in contention for the N1 anyway, we have no protective, they die and Vezok is hard confirmed town, I think? Best case, obviously, is wolves shoot a less strong player to avoid protectives, rtc. And if it is fake (lol) it locks them both into the claim early. Willing to hear counter arguments, though.
Don't have the partner out. If vezok's lying, it's easily dealt with later. Better to let the partner remain hidden and potentially get a confirmed town in late game.
@Gemma, sorry love, was busy all day, will be busy tonight. I'll get back to you tomorrow.
Like, Rhand's transition to the Vezok wagon and the thing you pointed out with him tying Vezok and fulcrum together if he's a wolf are the things I used to get the second team, if that's what you're asking about.
First team required a hard bus anyway I suppose but like. I've seen some things on this site lol.
"I guess I need to say something, so I'm just going to say something non-committal and vague"
See above
I hate that she seized on this, it's effortless and convenient. That post from Nacho is actually a decent chunk of the reason behind my town read on him... scum just don't make posts like this that are just completely wrong on every scale and easily debunked by reading like 15 posts made before it. It's the kind of mistake over-eager town make when they think they have an "Ah ha!" moment.
This is another one I strongly dislike. This isn't the first time that vezok had thrown shade on Nacho via an accusation of role-fishing, but he had also moved his vote off him long before this and hasn't revisited at all. We'll circle back to this.
This is another post that looks really opportunistic. Why Asta specifically, instead of you or Vaimes who just naked voted me? And why jump on this instead of questioning Nacho's original vote on the wagon, since vezok is supposedly scumreading Nacho?
I pointed this out yesterday, but that's an oddly low-impact post from Silver to illustrate his "sincerity"... it's like vezok was just looking for a reason to slap a town read on Silver and went with this.
This is a strange grouping for her lynch pile, considering her previous posts. Mindreaver, ok. She's been voting Mind for most of the game. There's Nacho again, although vezok hasn't been actively pushing this. It reminds me one of the things that put me onto scum Grapefruit on D1 of Modern. He kept trying to throw out subtle jabs that Shadowlancer might be scum, but he wouldn't actually push it or do anything to get his hands dirty.
Now, the other three. Rhand... why? Vezok gave Rhand a town read after his large wall of reads earlier in the game and hasn't mentioned him since. I think he's there because there are winds blowing in that direction. Asta... to be fair, vezok did call him/her out for the vote on my wagon, so the inclusion has a precedent, but this is some low-hanging fruit. Me? When has vezok ever voiced suspicion of me? Am I there because I've been voting her?
Now as far as the other part of your question goes (how other players have treated her), I don't really have much to offer there. I don't pay too much attention to interactions on D1 unless something really strikes me as bad/off-the-wall, like the Rhand/fulcrum/Vezok exchange earlier. The only other thing that I can remember is that Axelrod noted it was weird that Vezok was townreading you specifically for the gifs.
KJ, I believe I've said before that I'm town-reading you. It's the way KCC approached it that looks like she might be trying to pocket you. Silver hit on this as well, there was no explanation or examples, just a definitive blanket statement of "this is town KJ".
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I hope to have these two slots by Friday. I'm sorry for the lateness, but with holiday season it seems to be hard to find people that are not super busy.
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That's not how I pocket kj. My scum play also doesn't tend to include keeping people focused or diverting potential mislynches.
I do however agree with your Vez post before that
vote vez
AGAIN WHAT ARE THESE POSTS
if mindreaver is town, you and vaimes actually have the highest scum!equity next
jesus christ man
also being frozen is actually just a meme, because only a small handful of players actually get frozen, if any at all
vote: Vezok
this can die either way
I'm actually a mason. I can reveal the other person, but it's probably pretty obvious.
Also dk is off my lynch list for that post. He took different stances relating to my posts and I really liked the comment about how I would make that post if I was town who didn't care.
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@vez: Did you ever explain what it was that confused you here?
Last commented on this post as well, saying how natural it felt, which I completely disagree with. -I could see a townie having a lingering thought of this kind, but I don't think a townie is likely to explain it this way. This feels artificial to me
Probably. I think you approach the game closer to how I do, and I clash with Axel on a lot too
Agree and definitely not normal, regardless of my alignment.
Trust me, I'd much rather have been playing these past couple weeks
I'm really liking Tom and this list, there's not much I'd even bump here
Confirmed masons?
I assume you are asking if we are confirmed to each other and the answer is that yes we are.
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Never going there at least not today
Other half should claim, like now
@Last: why should the partner claim?
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Mission accomplished then
I fine with the other not claiming yet
If the day ended today I would not be upset with lynching Mindreaver. That's about all I can say there. I don't know he's scum, but I know he's not doing what he said he would do, and he's acting as his own self-meta indicated he would act as scum. And the bravado of his last post was just enough to ring false to me.
Seems like we have a lot of inactives though, which is another issue.
And Vez is claiming confirmed Mason. I will say that's not a role I would have expected in a "Seasons" game with abilities that switch on/off or change from season to season. Mason is just...always on.
And what we really need is for all the lurker slots to start posting. I’ve got this feeling that we are going to eat each other alive while the scumteam just isn’t posting.
I don't know what kind of hoops you're jumping through to conflate "defend" and "ignore," but these are very different ideas. Is this supposed to be a partner read? A whiteknighting read? A bad townread?
I'm just about caught up but I want to reread to fine-tune my reads because lol claim.
I'm tempted to run up fulcrum.
I miss Nacho.
Also why can't I have been a mason that would have been so much fun :[
Fwiw Vaimes, that is kind of something I find vaguely scummy about fulcrum itg, I just don't know how much of it is an mtgs thing. Don't really know how to describe it but I think she projects a level of emotionality that is sort of contrived as scum that she doesn't do when town, contrived or no. Like the way she responded to vezok with "but I could have been pocketing you wtf". I'm not really in a position to push her or make her position worse in this game because of the emotional toll, she has extremely high standards for me and it cuts her deep when I get anything wrong, which probably means that I shouldn't be playing mafia with her, but anyway, am happy to try to talk with you about her but count me out of any push you make on her.
vezokpiraka (6): dkingsland967, M1ndreaver, Rhand, tomsloger, KittyCupCake, Lastwhisper
Rhand (3): Silvercrys3467, fulcrum, Killjoy
M1ndreaver (2): vezokpiraka, Axelrod
Dkingsland967 (2): Nachomamma8, Asta
Asta (1): Slothful
Axelrod (1): Vaimes
Not Voting (2): shadowlancerx, Gemma
I know that you probably have other things you'd like to do so I hope I can just get away with it this once by the grace of mods but I'm not that hopeful.
2) I work in retail and the week of Black Friday is ******* ridiculous.
3) My boss is in the hospital currently which means that I don't have the freedom to leave/take this week less seriously than I might have otherwise.
so chances of me having time from now until Sunday are slim to none. sunday i'm gonna post so much in this game that y'all will be sick of me, but before Sunday? nothing. it would be near and dear to my heart if we didn't come to a lynch decision by then - we have the time, replacements should be posting, everything will be great.
i hate the mindreaver wagon maybe?
Vote: KittyCupcake
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YOURS,
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I believe Vezok's claim. Kind of want the partner to out, too, though. Worst case scenario is they're a strong player who was in contention for the N1 anyway, we have no protective, they die and Vezok is hard confirmed town, I think? Best case, obviously, is wolves shoot a less strong player to avoid protectives, rtc. And if it is fake (lol) it locks them both into the claim early. Willing to hear counter arguments, though.
Also it might not be the mindreaver wagon that I hate - might just be Tom.
@Gemma, sorry love, was busy all day, will be busy tonight. I'll get back to you tomorrow.
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Gemma
vezok
Vaimes
Asta
Killjoy
Nacho
Last
Silver
dk
shadow
fulcrum
tom
Axel
Rhand
KCC
Sloth
Mind
Problem is if they shoot Vezok they can CC the partner later unless Vezok's flip includes her partner's name
Not gonna pretend I'm an expert at Mason play and I'm fine trusting ~whoever it is~ to do what they think is best, I suppose, just. Yeah.
Anyway, Vezok town rules out quite a few worlds I was considering. Think Rhand/fulcrum/axelrod/+x is the only likely Rhand team right now?
Ehhh.
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vezokpiraka
Killjoy
Vaimes / Axelrod / Gemma
Nachomamma8 / Lastwhisper
Asta / tomsloger / dkingsland967
Slothful / KittyCupCake / fulcrum / shadowlancerx
Rhand / M1ndreaver
This is where I'm at right now but I need to reread with Vezok town in mind still
'cause if Rhand's only plausible partners now are Axelrod/fulcrum... I'm not real sure that's the team
Rhand/Vezok/+x
Or
Rhand/Axel/fulcrum/+x because Vezok was the designated mislunch
Ruling out the first world makes it kind of unlikely he's a wolf. I think. Need to reread.
First team required a hard bus anyway I suppose but like. I've seen some things on this site lol.
Nacho/last
Gemma/silver/axel
kj/dkings
sloth/shadow/kcc/asta
vaimes/rhand
mind/fulcrum
...