I don't want to fight my lynch for Days only to be the game losing mislynch. If people want to kill me at all, they should do it now.
Yes, absolutely, its almost as good as lynching me. We're both liabilities down the line, and mechanically depleted. You have the benefit of clearing KJ for real
it's the leading theory in my personal quicktopic, which has more credibility than three players with a known bad PoE trying to force mislunches through on purpose by chaining someone they think is town to a bodyguard and me lmao
Who should hammer seems like a conversation you'd want to be having. Unless your concern ended at telling your buddies not to be the last vote
That was a snarky way of saying I didn't have a group chat, I haven't speculated about what Wisp's abilities do because they could be basically anything
@Last I don't know fulcrum is town, I'm saying that's what wolves should be doing right now. KCC is trying to say wolves would trade a partner for an extra kill
Which seems really silly if you can avoid it and also neatly dodges actually reading their cases against each other and evaluating whether you think they're bussing or not by simply saying "yeah because I think it's mechanically beneficial to"
@Fulcrums
Interactions with Rhand can easily be TMI, and it doesn't help that he just decided to not vote his strongest scumread on the day he was lynched
So yes I agree with you when you say, everyone else just has better interactions with him
Actually the people who have the worst interactions with Rhand are all the people that PoE'd him early that are still alive
Like Killjoy as well
Uh. Explain this? I could have sworn you said my interactions with Rhand were something that made me not scum with him? If you did, why the change of heart? (Gonna look up that post now)
The Proph wagon doesn't feel like the Keldeo wagon did.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I was one of the original thinkers of killjoy/Rhand feeling like bussers next to Tom, and then I probably 180 back on the thought, and off, over and over
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
You are a problem because you are in the same boat as fulcrum, both so confident that Rhand was a wolf, but then you both just stopped pushing it, and it's really hard to overlook that
Wait so... hey last, you're voting fulcrum... but you think silver is outed... with proph and dk? And the hope is that if fulcrum is a mislynch the vengeance will strike a random mafia?
I'm trying to piece together what's going on here, just like. Help me out here?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Wait so... hey last, you're voting fulcrum... but you think silver is outed... with proph and dk? And the hope is that if fulcrum is a mislynch the vengeance will strike a random mafia?
I'm trying to piece together what's going on here, just like. Help me out here?
if fulcrum is a wolf, its a win, if he is not, then killjoy is confirmed town
and if he gets a vengeful, i'd rather have a town control it, rather than a mafia control it
which leaves us with the above PoE, which is a lot better, then the insane PoE we have right now
with one wolf always being in silver/kcc
1-2 wolves being in DK/Proph
with 0-1 being in Asta, but at this point I think that Asta is just town anyways
Damn it last are you scum? You keep saying things that feel scummy.
I wish I was so I didnt have to care about this game right now, but sadly that isnt the case
and Asta is doing exactly what they said they were, moving with either me/vaimes/you, and since I am the only one voting, here we are
and at least they are placing their vote
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I haven't speculated about what Wisp's abilities do because they could be basically anything
And yet, you fairly instantly had a very specific alternate theory on hand
Yeah because "Revenge" can mean a bunch things, I pulled that one out of my ass when you said you thought it would be a free kill as the first plausible alternative to come to mind
The amount of bad faith reading into my posts is truly astonishing
I volunteer to hammer, if only to marginally increase my chances of not having to deal with this anymore
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Yes, absolutely, its almost as good as lynching me. We're both liabilities down the line, and mechanically depleted. You have the benefit of clearing KJ for real
Or does something totally different?
Why are you arranging what you seem to think is an intentional mislunch on the off chance you might get a directed kill?
Like, yes, it clears KJ in the worst case but... ew?
If he flips town we just steamroll, DK/Proph
And then we think about DK/Silver
Was that the leading theory in your chat?
And I do not think we should "steamroll" dk/Proph if fulcrum is town
What makes you so sure they're the wolves if fulcrum is town?
KJ is hard cleared in that world, but the PoE is still wide open (Asta/Dkings/Proph/KCC/apparently me for some reason/side of Vaimes)
We actually don't have enough lunches to steamroll through the PoE if she's town and we lunch her
Like really really?
Fulcrum is a good play. If town, that's a tinfoil Poe we don't need to worry about, with bonus info attached
If scum, I think it's the most useful catch info wise, and one of the only ones worth handing them a bonus kill for
This is a reasonable thought though. We should pick who hammers too
If scum had the same obvious line of thought we did regarding Revenge, yeah, power bussing is exactly what they do today
Shouldn't be hard with the current PoE lmao
Who should hammer seems like a conversation you'd want to be having. Unless your concern ended at telling your buddies not to be the last vote
Are you ok?
I'm open to CFDKCC round 4
@Last I don't know fulcrum is town, I'm saying that's what wolves should be doing right now. KCC is trying to say wolves would trade a partner for an extra kill
Which seems really silly if you can avoid it and also neatly dodges actually reading their cases against each other and evaluating whether you think they're bussing or not by simply saying "yeah because I think it's mechanically beneficial to"
Accuses me of setting up an intentional mislynch on fulcrum
Also puts us in scumteam together
Yeah, seems fine
And yet, you fairly instantly had a very specific alternate theory on hand
This this this
The Current Season is Winter.
With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Anyone else get that vibe?
The Proph wagon doesn't feel like the Keldeo wagon did.
Catching up the rest of the way now.
I think KCC is scum. She is my preferred lynch right now. Will do dk for info/PoE.
Feel like Silver isn't scum for personal reasons, not gonna say why yet.
It could be Proph. KCC>DK>Proph though
KCC isn't happening, it's Proph or DK or u can go with our plan of removing Fulcrum, in the hopes that my ability is actually a vengeful
Idk how u can have DK at an "info Lynch"
Also place ur vote, I really don't understand
Like I said earlier, dk and Proph are in the same boat here. But I think DK is more likely scum, He's info because of early wagons.
We're not doing fulcrum.
I'm trying to piece together what's going on here, just like. Help me out here?
Anyways baaaaaa
vote fulcrum
pretty much?
1. Silvercrys3467
3. shadowlancerxJackritoProphylaxis
5. KittyCupCake
8. dkingsland967
17. Asta
if fulcrum is a wolf, its a win, if he is not, then killjoy is confirmed town
and if he gets a vengeful, i'd rather have a town control it, rather than a mafia control it
which leaves us with the above PoE, which is a lot better, then the insane PoE we have right now
with one wolf always being in silver/kcc
1-2 wolves being in DK/Proph
with 0-1 being in Asta, but at this point I think that Asta is just town anyways
I don't think I've put the two of you on a wolf team exactly together since the beginning of the phase so try again??
and Asta is doing exactly what they said they were, moving with either me/vaimes/you, and since I am the only one voting, here we are
and at least they are placing their vote
Or we could? It's about as good as fulcrum
Fulcrum confirms KJ, and might be low activity the rest of the game, but I kinda think I'm the bigger POE liability
Under different circumstances, sure
The amount of bad faith reading into my posts is truly astonishing
I volunteer to hammer, if only to marginally increase my chances of not having to deal with this anymore
It's more likely a ploy to seem like "I don't care if I die".
Lets do this.
Vote KCC
Aww, thank you! What can I say, it's a gift