@Proph
u need to make that call before I start my shift at 2:45, else the chances of me being able to match your vote, will be very slim
and we will no lynch
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
we only lose to Silver/Asta, if thats not the case
then Killjoys vote means he either just lynched his partner, or the world is Silver/Fulcrum
that was a ballsy vote in a town!killjoy world thoughh
I really think it's just killjoy left and he hammered fulcrum because he thought he'd have a better chance of winning toMorrow than getting four votes on me
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
As fulcrum draws their last breaths the leaves begin to fall from the trees and change colors. The town breaths relief as they realize that they have made the correct decision and prepare for the final judgment they must make.
Fulcrum has been lynched by majority vote. They were Spéirbhean -Mafia Dreamer
Spéirbhean - Mafia Dreamer
Fall Passive Ability - Dream of Certainty Whenever Fall starts, you will learn the names of two random players who have abilities restricted to this season.
Passive Ability - New Direction After each season cycle, you may rearrange your abilities to different seasons.
Additionally, you know that you will not learn any abilities from your own faction.
As the town further investigated they found that Fulcrum had the ability to track a players actions for one night, and had the ability to message two players.
Night Seven begins now and will last 48 hours.
Night Seven will end on February 16th at 11 AM PST.
The Current Season is Fall
Day Eight Start As the town wake they find that Silvercrys3467 is no longer with them. The leaves of fall fall around the town as they prepare for perhaps their final day.
Silvercrys3467 has been killed during the night. They were Aeolus - Town Investigator
Aeolus - Town Investigator Summer Ability - Winds of Portence
Each Night in Summer, you may target another player. If that player has an ability that they can only use during the following season, learn that ability's name.
Fall Ability - Winds of Knowledge
Each Night in Fall, you may target a dead player and a living player to learn if the living player targeted the dead player over the course of the game. This ability may only target each dead player once.
Winter Ability - Winds of Past
Each Night in Winter, you may target another player and specify a previous Night. You will learn if that player was targeted on that Night.
Day Eight begins now and ends on February 23rd at 11:59 AM PST.
The Current Season is Fall.
With 4 Alive it takes 3 to lynch.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Spring Passive Ability - Dreams of Future
Each Night in Spring, you will learn the name of a non-Mafia player who took an action that Night.
I just don't believe that DV just erases this ability from Fulcrum's role card because he gave it away
its the ability that Fulcrum literally used to confirm you
Quote from Vaimes" Role »
Ability - Make a Deal
Each Night, you may target another player. During the following day, that player will be able to exchange an ability they possess to gain a one shot of one of the two following abilities:Tracker, Bulletproof Vest. Or a two shot of a Messenger ability.
If that player chooses to exchange the ability, you will gain a one shot of their ability.
One of the three abilities is selected for exchange by a player, then that ability is removed from the abilities that may be offered. Players will not know who is offering them the deal. You may only take one Night action per Night.
In addition, all three abilities have drawbacks when used.
Messenger - Target player may send a message to another player during night however, the mafia will always get a copy of this message and will be aware that this is a drawback of another players ability.
Tracker - The player will be unable to take a night action during the following Night.
Bulletproof vest - After the Bulletproof vest is used any kill that targets the player will be a strongman kill.
While you have knowledge of these drawbacks, communicating them directly in thread will have consequences. If you mention those drawbacks in the thread, you will be vanillaized and all abilities you have given will be removed from the game.
Quote from Vaimes Oneshots »
Spring Passive Ability - Dreams of Future
Each Night in Spring, you will learn the name of a non-Mafia player who took an action that Night.
Spring Ability - Watchful Fairy
Each Night in Spring, you may target another player. You will learn how many abilities targeted that player that Night.
Winter Passive Ability - Dream of Naming
Whenever Winter starts, you will learn the name of a random ability restricted to this season.
hmm I still need to do my due diligence, cause this still doesnt actually explain the message Asta got
cause I believe Fulcrum got the messenger ability later in the game
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I thought the season muckery was also partially explained by each cycle having to hit each season once before going onto the next cycle? Ultimately doesn't matter since it is the final Day.
With my past game having turned into "the top poster who drove the game was actually the wolf the whole time" I'm absolutely terrified of today because I want to keep to Last as town but there's that nagging doubt in the back of my mind.
God I need to go digging for whatever the fulcrum/killjoy interactions were.
Our scum were Fulcrum, Rhand, Dkings, and one other? Maybe I'll have time to do it, but if not, it might be fruitful to look over how fulcrum treated Rhand and DK then glance at how they treated the remaining folk.
Yeah, the seasons need to hit once each cycle, but when I asked the mod he said the next one would be Spring if there was no ****ery. It's Fall. So there was some ****ery.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Town reads: 0-1 scum
fulcrum
Asta
vezokpiraka
tomsloger
Nachomamma8
Vaimes
Light town reads: 0-2 scum
Killjoy
Silvercrys3467
Lastwhisper
Grapefruit21*
Role brigade: 1-2 scum
dkingsland967
Prophylaxis
Axelrod
KittyCupCake
Leaves: 1-2 scum
Rhand
Keldeo
I think Vaimes' usage and attitude around his role are town, done looking there. Tom's clearly trying to solve, Nacho as well. Asta's newbtown. Vezok is a mason.
Silver, Lastwhisper and Killjoy are all pushing against the grain, probably town.
Game feels p easy. Kill Rhand and Keldeo, probably hit scum, go from there.
Aight so. Here in Fulcrum's reads:
Smart enough not to include any other scum in his top list.
In fact, clearly kept all scum in separate chunks.
Set to bus Rhand earlyish? Rhand seemed to have given himself away or else the other scum decided it would be to their benefit to sacrifice one? I dunno.
Hm. Will do more digging asap but it's away for now
If this doesn't make it clear, I'm pretty convinced Proph isn't scum. I'll be hard-pressed to find Last to be scum. There's some nagging doubt that Killjoy could be right, but I'll have to see the big case.
We can direct DK's bodyguard onto one person we want in late, late game, and if they ever die, immediately kill him. If he's town, mafia are forced to shoot him, if he's scum, mafia are forced to keep that person alive forever.
Okay GOD this game has been obsessively long so obviously this got missed but DAMN fulcrum that's cheeky
The reason I don't necessarily want him on Vez is I don't ENTIRELY trust Vez. In the later game when the Masons are outed and she's one of them, sure but right now I'm not gonna trust the claim by itself, not enough to have a permaprotect on it.
The Axel kill makes sense on some level, as fulcrum tried to leverage it later to prove her towniness. (Fulcrum was in the friendly chat and conversed secretly with KCC/last to have KCC busdrive axel.) I was confused at the time, but sure. Nice play.
okay finally looked up what wine/wifom means. yeah i guess it's a wheel-spinner? some of the kills have seemed borderline random, wouldn't be surprised if scum did something close to a dice roll (obviously avoiding me to keep dk's bodyguard story afloat)
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Curse PremiumGonna make a judgement call then
u need to make that call before I start my shift at 2:45, else the chances of me being able to match your vote, will be very slim
and we will no lynch
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Curse PremiumI'll see if I can leave class early or something
In your heart, Last, who do you think it is?
wouldnt that be spicy
if we dont lost, then the PoE just has to be Fulcrum/Silver/Killjoy
His scumread on Rhand didn't start till we almost lynched him so.
See you on the other side. Hope we don't lose.
If we don't, then I'll have my last case ready for inspection.
Vote fulcrum
dont shade me, its not doing you any favors at this point
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Curse Premiummy heart, please be right holy *****
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Curse PremiumOh well, we'll see
The Current Season is Summer.
With 6 Alive it takes 4 to lynch.
then Killjoys vote means he either just lynched his partner, or the world is Silver/Fulcrum
that was a ballsy vote in a town!killjoy world thoughh
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Curse PremiumSorry for getting really indecisive, I didn't have access to my computer
GGs no matter what the outcome is
Unless Silver is a god damn monster
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It just is. You'll see my case tomorrow and hopefully it'll convince you
Fall Passive Ability - Dream of Certainty
Whenever Fall starts, you will learn the names of two random players who have abilities restricted to this season.
Passive Ability - New Direction
After each season cycle, you may rearrange your abilities to different seasons.
Additionally, you know that you will not learn any abilities from your own faction.
Night Seven will end on February 16th at 11 AM PST.
The Current Season is Fall
As the town wake they find that Silvercrys3467 is no longer with them. The leaves of fall fall around the town as they prepare for perhaps their final day.
Silvercrys3467 has been killed during the night. They were Aeolus - Town Investigator
Summer Ability - Winds of Portence
Each Night in Summer, you may target another player. If that player has an ability that they can only use during the following season, learn that ability's name.
Fall Ability - Winds of Knowledge
Each Night in Fall, you may target a dead player and a living player to learn if the living player targeted the dead player over the course of the game. This ability may only target each dead player once.
Winter Ability - Winds of Past
Each Night in Winter, you may target another player and specify a previous Night. You will learn if that player was targeted on that Night.
Day Eight begins now and ends on February 23rd at 11:59 AM PST.
The Current Season is Fall.
With 4 Alive it takes 3 to lynch.
but I dont see where or how Vaimes got that ability from Fulcrum?
because in a wolf!killjoy world he couldnt have given it to her, because of "you know you wont get any abilities from your faction"
but like any other day I will do my due diligence
I'm still working on my Last post. I still strongly believe it's him.
Last: talk to me why you think it's me again?
and no Vaimes strictly said he was given that ability from Fulcrum
Fulcrum even has the tracker which 100% came from Vaimes
I just don't believe that DV just erases this ability from Fulcrum's role card because he gave it away
its the ability that Fulcrum literally used to confirm you
its not like the ability is completely erased
since we know Vaimes got it from some where
and the messenger ability came from Vaimes as well
cause I believe Fulcrum got the messenger ability later in the game
but it doesnt explain the world where Asta got the BG message, but IDK if that really matters
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Curse PremiumI'll post more tonight, currently at an MTG tournament atm
Proph: talk to me about lasts role and why it can't have other abilities attached to it. You haven't really expanded on that.
And I've stopped keeping track of the seasons at this point
With my past game having turned into "the top poster who drove the game was actually the wolf the whole time" I'm absolutely terrified of today because I want to keep to Last as town but there's that nagging doubt in the back of my mind.
God I need to go digging for whatever the fulcrum/killjoy interactions were.
Our scum were Fulcrum, Rhand, Dkings, and one other? Maybe I'll have time to do it, but if not, it might be fruitful to look over how fulcrum treated Rhand and DK then glance at how they treated the remaining folk.
Aight so. Here in Fulcrum's reads:
Smart enough not to include any other scum in his top list.
In fact, clearly kept all scum in separate chunks.
Set to bus Rhand earlyish? Rhand seemed to have given himself away or else the other scum decided it would be to their benefit to sacrifice one? I dunno.
Hm. Will do more digging asap but it's away for now
Okay GOD this game has been obsessively long so obviously this got missed but DAMN fulcrum that's cheeky
Hmmmm.
But. Silver had SOME scum equity?