I would be very surprised (and upset) if the scum got a day-vig every summer. That has to be a 1-shot deal.
Hum. Maybe? We've had set ups with multiple extra wolf kills before and this would be 2 kills maximum (game somehow goes to Day 10 I'll scream even if I'm dead)
I have not thought through what the plan some people were proposing. I target (?) and KCC busdrives me (?)
And that keeps me alive? Not that I'm necessarily a high priority for them, yet, but was that the jist?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I have not thought through what the plan some people were proposing. I target (?) and KCC busdrives me (?)
And that keeps me alive? Not that I'm necessarily a high priority for them, yet, but was that the jist?
You target KCC. KCC busdrives you to (random person). If they try to kill her, you'll see the kill. If they try to kill you, (random person) dies instead. If they have their own roleblocker/redirector they can mess with KCC and still kill you, though, I guess, unless DK's ability doesn't target and he can bodyguard you (maybe don't actually claim whether this is the case or not so wolves don't know if it's safe lol)
I have not thought through what the plan some people were proposing. I target (?) and KCC busdrives me (?)
And that keeps me alive? Not that I'm necessarily a high priority for them, yet, but was that the jist?
You target KCC. KCC busdrives you to (random person). If they try to kill her, you'll see the kill. If they try to kill you, (random person) dies instead. If they have their own roleblocker/redirector they can mess with KCC and still kill you, though, I guess, unless DK's ability doesn't target and he can bodyguard you (maybe don't actually claim whether this is the case or not so wolves don't know if it's safe lol)
Roleblock and Redirect are below Bus Drive in action resolution.
I have not thought through what the plan some people were proposing. I target (?) and KCC busdrives me (?)
And that keeps me alive? Not that I'm necessarily a high priority for them, yet, but was that the jist?
You target KCC. KCC busdrives you to (random person). If they try to kill her, you'll see the kill. If they try to kill you, (random person) dies instead. If they have their own roleblocker/redirector they can mess with KCC and still kill you, though, I guess, unless DK's ability doesn't target and he can bodyguard you (maybe don't actually claim whether this is the case or not so wolves don't know if it's safe lol)
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there has to be a wolf between axel/dk
like what is the reasoning for Gemma getting blasted out of nowhere
Dude, the reason is that it's a Summer ability, they need to use it while the using is good, and Gemma was never getting lynched. Maybe not everyone thought she was the Towniest, but enough.
Maybe its not a Summer thing either, just a universal DK, and they're just making sure to get it off before the end of the day. It's also a possibility. The lateness of the shooting also suggests (to me) that it didn't come from someone who has been under pressure today.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
wait if we no lynch, it stays summer? but if someone gets lynched it doesnt?
right, from the extra kill. Season rotates based on # of deaths. One death happened in summer, so after the lunch it'll flip to spring, then the NK + D2 lunch will flip it to fall for N2 (unless there's another extra kill, then it'll be fall on D2 lmao)
wait if we no lynch, it stays summer? but if someone gets lynched it doesnt?
Changes every 2 deaths.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I am biased, but, in as much as one of the options on the table is me, and that would be bad
Vote: No Lynch and I will take my Watch tonight and see what happens
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
don't really believe they can both be town
and CCing a watcher almost always leads to Fulcrum's death if Axel flips town
which maybe he could talk himself out of it? but is it worth the scrutiny?
Maybe someone should target KCC with something? So I can see it?
Eh. Announcing who I'm Watching seems so bad.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
But also **** yall for wanting to no lynch.
Seasons come back around
That said i wasnt enthused with either main wagon. Axel still feels mostly towny to me and if thats wrong teams he works on i think we just destroy since hes probably the "deepest" wolf
Dkings i dont have much read on other than hes playing like dkings but ive generally disliked reasoning people have to suspect him (also @dkings weve played together more than you think. Not_a_gimmick and PaTennis were both me lol.)
My "happy to lynch" pile is grape/kcc/fulcrum/vaimes/keldeo
(Happy being relative since i enjoy playing with all of the current slot holders, and its a pile of pretty good/useful players if theyre town)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think with the conditional nature of season-based roles theres gonna be a lot of overlap. I dont want to read to much into claims/roles. Thats gonna be a helluva puzzle thats probably less reliable than behavior reads
But ill say i have some overlap with something thats been claimed and im strictly at "wait and see" on it
Got to love heavy mechanical games lol.
I’m against not lynching for role related reasons. And mapped out Night actions won’t do us any good anyways. Scum will just play around those.
I wished there was some time to process all the claims.
I didn't even see your post Gemma. I'm working in another window and just checking back here to refresh this screen periodically.
I'm Moth - Fairy Town Watcher.
I'm not quite a standard Watcher. I see different things depending on what the season is.
Spring - See how many abilities target player.
Summer - See who targets player
Fall - Get the Names of Abilites that targeted player
WInter - See the first person to target player (based on that Order of Action Resolution thing)
Ironically, Nacho has audibled me into the best version of the ability for tonight. I was worried that I wouldn't even get a Summer shot, as if we had two more kills (like from a Vig or something) we might have skipped Summer and gone straight on into Fall. But I will have the standard Watch ability tonight.
I do not have the ability to target. During three different seasons, I see someone who took an action, I see the name of an action that was taken, and I see two abilities that could have been taken during that abilities' season.
i know i just said i wasnt gonna setupgame but two town ~watchers and neither can see a scum nightkill OR the dayvig is pretty silly.
Could see both roles being more useful as scum info roles catching town PRs than town info roles catching scum
Eh i guess axel could in one season.
And fontis claim is actually closer to oracle than watcher
Actually have no idea why she would hard CC there
I dont want to think about it more
Grape>fonti>kcc>keldeo>vaimes is my order of preference
6th choice would probably be asta over proph from my nulls.
Just because it was so easy for me to identify him as town in the dlp game and ive got nothing here
If Summer gets a scum dayvig then you were likely always doomed; summer starts, scum shoots someone, then summer is over before town power steps in.
If it's an unlimited dayvig and now I'm realizing my thought process was ****ed
And that keeps me alive? Not that I'm necessarily a high priority for them, yet, but was that the jist?
No.
Also Kitty can't be roleblocked, which is A+ excellent.
Yep.
like what is the reasoning for Gemma getting blasted out of nowhere
It's a weird shot with Masons, and info roles claimed.
Though, maybe with the kill being no flip, they wanted to hit an unclaimed?
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Nevermind dk can do what he wants
Hypothetically we could kill a claimed cop for **** sakes and I wouldn't bat an eye
find a real cfd or we lynch one of Axel or DK
this is stupid as *****
this is all nacho's fault jesus
Hmm.. with a lynch coming, and at least 1 kill likely Tonight, it's probably a summer only power they just wanted to get it off while they could
Or they just wanted her dead for posting too much, someone got N1'd in Game of Thrones for that lmao
Maybe its not a Summer thing either, just a universal DK, and they're just making sure to get it off before the end of the day. It's also a possibility. The lateness of the shooting also suggests (to me) that it didn't come from someone who has been under pressure today.
If we lunch someone it becomes spring again and we don't get summer info until N5 or N6 depending on whether summer and spring are permanently swapped
letting my emotion get the best of me
I'm fine skipping my summer ability and getting Fall on N2 myself but everyone else has summer roles it seems like
for the sake of other's abilities being usable, then sure, its not a complete waste
gemma's flip wont say much except give us her role
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don't really believe they can both be town
and CCing a watcher almost always leads to Fulcrum's death if Axel flips town
which maybe he could talk himself out of it? but is it worth the scrutiny?
idk
Eh. Announcing who I'm Watching seems so bad.
he sees the action that was taken, but not who it targets?
With 16 Alive it takes 8 to Lynch
The Current Season is Summer
what is going on?
But also **** yall for wanting to no lynch.
Seasons come back around
That said i wasnt enthused with either main wagon. Axel still feels mostly towny to me and if thats wrong teams he works on i think we just destroy since hes probably the "deepest" wolf
Dkings i dont have much read on other than hes playing like dkings but ive generally disliked reasoning people have to suspect him (also @dkings weve played together more than you think. Not_a_gimmick and PaTennis were both me lol.)
(Happy being relative since i enjoy playing with all of the current slot holders, and its a pile of pretty good/useful players if theyre town)
I'm keeping my vote on because idk yet why people are voting no lynch, but I don't see how fulcrum's role and Axelrod's role couldn't be v/v
But ill say i have some overlap with something thats been claimed and im strictly at "wait and see" on it
I’m against not lynching for role related reasons. And mapped out Night actions won’t do us any good anyways. Scum will just play around those.
I wished there was some time to process all the claims.
Could see both roles being more useful as scum info roles catching town PRs than town info roles catching scum
And fontis claim is actually closer to oracle than watcher
Actually have no idea why she would hard CC there
I dont want to think about it more
Grape>fonti>kcc>keldeo>vaimes is my order of preference
6th choice would probably be asta over proph from my nulls.
Just because it was so easy for me to identify him as town in the dlp game and ive got nothing here
But really idk anymore, I don't fully want a no Lynch
Nacho and fulcrums CC's make absolutely no sense