he still feels like he is playing a solo game, like I am not getting vibes that he pushing an agenda, outside maybe his DK vote from way back in the day
he feels uninformed here, or he is really good at hiding his tmi
I’m gonna go out on a mod gaming limb and say that combined with Asta’s generally newbish behavior plus having a role that both supplies an extra vote and manipulates the lunch threshold, that he’s just a villager here.
I’m gonna go out on a mod gaming limb and say that combined with Asta’s generally newbish behavior plus having a role that both supplies an extra vote and manipulates the lunch threshold, that he’s just a villager here.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I should be here for deadline and will self vote if absolutely needed to get a lunch through.
I’m not a fan of the Asta push and don’t want to vote him. Proph, can you walk through the reasoning about his role? What is the reasoning for him to lie about how his double vote activates? Or if he’s not lying, why would it be designed so that a scum role activated differently from other roles?
Proph, I’ve seen your question, not sure if I can get around to answering it thoroughly but I think that’s generally right.
Also, some questions for everyone:
What do you perceive as the POE? If you had to lynch through say 5 people to win (including me if you want) who would they be?
How many wolves are likely to remain? I’ve been assuming that if it’s not multiball, it would be a 13:4 ratio to start, but maybe this site does something different.
What info do you get from analyzing this counterwagon? Because my instinct is that even though I'd like for KCC to go over I think I'm still dying today.
Also, did you want to vote Asta just to get a CW or because you think he's likely to be mafia?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Well, this is not a No lynch situation for me, so, I'm going to be checking in.
If someone wants to make an impassioned pitch for why KCC is better, do it now. Seems like both of them have made sincere sounding posts when on the brink of being lynched.
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Well, this is not a No lynch situation for me, so, I'm going to be checking in.
If someone wants to make an impassioned pitch for why KCC is better, do it now. Seems like both of them have made sincere sounding posts when on the brink of being lynched.
Legacy in case I die is that KCC is a wolf if Keldeo is town
I'm presently leaning fulcrum for wolf investigative over Axelrod regardless of Keldeo's alignment
The +1 probably isn't Killjoy because it would be weird if wolves had a role that could steal abilities from living players -and- one that takes from dead ones
Legacy in case I die is that KCC is a wolf if Keldeo is town
I'm presently leaning fulcrum for wolf investigative over Axelrod regardless of Keldeo's alignment
The +1 probably isn't Killjoy because it would be weird if wolves had a role that could steal abilities from living players -and- one that takes from dead ones
interesting that you think that is a town claim from keldeo
As Keldeo faces death snow begins to fall from the sky. “At least I get to see my season one last time” Keldeo says as they begin to fade out of existence. And with that statement the town realized that a mistake had been made and the Winter Queen was no threat, but it was too late and it was too cold to stay and debate any longer.
Keldeo has been lynched by majority vote. They were Mab - Town Winter Queen
Mab - Town Winter Queen
You have the following abilities:
Summer Day Ability - Preparation for Winter Each Day in Summer, you may target another player. That player's actions are prevented during the following Night
Winter Ability - Queen of the Season Each Night in Winter, you may target another player. That player's actions are prevented this Night. If a non-factional ability is prevented this way, gain a one-shot of that ability and lose this ability.
Night Four begins now and will last 48 hours. Night Four will end on January 21st at 7 PM PST.
The Current Season is Winter
Day Five Start As the town wakes they find themselves fueled with dreams of revenge on those that threaten their peaceful existence. The town finds even more reason for revenge when they find Axelrod is no longer with them.
Axelrod has been killed during the night. They were Moth - Fairy Town Watcher
Moth - Fairy Town Watcher Spring Ability - Watchful Fairy
Each Night in Spring, you may target another player. You will learn how many abilities targeted that player that Night.
Summer Ability - Fairy Attentiveness
Each Night in Summer, you may target another player. You will learn which players targeted that player that Night.
Fall Ability - Fairy Intuition
Each Night in Fall, you may target another player. You will learn the names of the abilities that targeted that player that Night.
Winter Ability - Fairy Watching
Each Night in Winter, you may target another player. You will learn the name of the first player to target that player that Night.
Day Five begins now and ends on January 29th at 11:59 AM PST.
The Current Season is Winter.
With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
to start off, KCC, Me, and fulcrum talked a decent amount during the night, and at this point I really just believe we are all town, I still am worried that Fulcrum could be the wolf the carried the factional KP on night 1, and was roleblocked by Keldeo, but I really do not want to use night actions to bury someone again, like we did with Keldeo
if we are going to lynch anyone that was in my chat, I expect some extraordinary cases on them
and since I believe that, Killjoy is always town, Vezok is obviously always town
Asta, dkingsland967, Silvercrys, Vaimes, Prophylaxis
so that is my PoE
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
to start off, KCC, Me, and fulcrum talked a decent amount during the night, and at this point I really just believe we are all town, I still am worried that Fulcrum could be the wolf the carried the factional KP on night 1, and was roleblocked by Keldeo, but I really do not want to use night actions to bury someone again, like we did with Keldeo
if we are going to lynch anyone that was in my chat, I expect some extraordinary cases on them
and since I believe that, Killjoy is always town, Vezok is obviously always town
Asta, dkingsland967, Silvercrys, Vaimes, Prophylaxis
so that is my PoE
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Vote Asta
Think KCC and dkings's role not matching up with Asta's is kind of a Thing and his behavior is less than stellar Today.
I do recognize that he has some macro townie tells but I think he gets into trouble when you start looking at the micro.
(I do recognize that this is mostly a vanity vote and will shift votes if needed at eod)
he feels uninformed here, or he is really good at hiding his tmi
vote: Asta
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The Current Season is Fall.
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
If I haven't made a post at all by a half to deadline I might not make it though, there's a chance I'll be busy
(8 hours 20 minutes from this post)
It'll give info at least, which is helpful.
I will not be here for deadline either or just barely woke up by then.
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I'm not moving to Asta.
I'd move to Lasta though.
I’m not a fan of the Asta push and don’t want to vote him. Proph, can you walk through the reasoning about his role? What is the reasoning for him to lie about how his double vote activates? Or if he’s not lying, why would it be designed so that a scum role activated differently from other roles?
Proph, I’ve seen your question, not sure if I can get around to answering it thoroughly but I think that’s generally right.
Also, some questions for everyone:
What do you perceive as the POE? If you had to lynch through say 5 people to win (including me if you want) who would they be?
How many wolves are likely to remain? I’ve been assuming that if it’s not multiball, it would be a 13:4 ratio to start, but maybe this site does something different.
.....
vote: KCC
Still willing to hammer Keldeo later
The Current Season is Fall.
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Unvote, vote KCC
vote: Kcc
Also, did you want to vote Asta just to get a CW or because you think he's likely to be mafia?
I guess we will see? Not having counter wagons scare me tbh
like I hate that he feels so pure and so wolfy at the same time
I'll be so happy if I was right here.
The Current Season is Fall.
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
If someone wants to make an impassioned pitch for why KCC is better, do it now. Seems like both of them have made sincere sounding posts when on the brink of being lynched.
The Current Season is Fall.
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
@keldeo
you around? I am probably just hammering you here
And both have wolf equity as the roleblocker
see y'all on the other side
The Current Season is Fall.
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Legacy in case I die is that KCC is a wolf if Keldeo is town
I'm presently leaning fulcrum for wolf investigative over Axelrod regardless of Keldeo's alignment
The +1 probably isn't Killjoy because it would be weird if wolves had a role that could steal abilities from living players -and- one that takes from dead ones
You have the following abilities:
Summer Day Ability - Preparation for Winter
Each Day in Summer, you may target another player. That player's actions are prevented during the following Night
Winter Ability - Queen of the Season
Each Night in Winter, you may target another player. That player's actions are prevented this Night. If a non-factional ability is prevented this way, gain a one-shot of that ability and lose this ability.
The Current Season is Winter
As the town wakes they find themselves fueled with dreams of revenge on those that threaten their peaceful existence. The town finds even more reason for revenge when they find Axelrod is no longer with them.
Axelrod has been killed during the night. They were Moth - Fairy Town Watcher
Spring Ability - Watchful Fairy
Each Night in Spring, you may target another player. You will learn how many abilities targeted that player that Night.
Summer Ability - Fairy Attentiveness
Each Night in Summer, you may target another player. You will learn which players targeted that player that Night.
Fall Ability - Fairy Intuition
Each Night in Fall, you may target another player. You will learn the names of the abilities that targeted that player that Night.
Winter Ability - Fairy Watching
Each Night in Winter, you may target another player. You will learn the name of the first player to target that player that Night.
The Current Season is Winter.
With 10 Alive it takes 6 to lynch.
@Vezok
if we are going to lynch anyone that was in my chat, I expect some extraordinary cases on them
and since I believe that, Killjoy is always town, Vezok is obviously always town
Asta, dkingsland967, Silvercrys, Vaimes, Prophylaxis
so that is my PoE
Do you have a conclusion based on this?
Because Fulcrum has a check on you??
am I mistaken?
I can only be scum with fulcrum, so why are you just randomly dismissing me as scum?
And, DO you have a conclusion? I want to know what you think. I'm not expecting anything specific.