Grapefruit Dkingsland - numerous strong townie attitude posts.
Killjoy – strong tonally
Vez - genuine attempt to counter-claim, strong tone.
Cantripmancer – post 38: consistently focused on logic-based tells, unfair seeming attacks.
Sir chris – would have been super easy to let me die. Hopefully not pocketing me. KCC
Rhand
beeboy – certain type of self-awareness, wants freedom to lynch arbitrarily, unvote based on role reasons. More analysis necessary, says time for competing wagons – why? fuwa - self-deprecating frequently, fence sits on both sides of shadow and sir chris, no reasoning for sir chris vote. Inconsistent in characterizing her own attacks, seems to suggest her attacks subjective and might be valid only in her own eyes. Very light-hearted/carefree in tone, which is somewhat unusual for inexperienced scum .
Axelrod – weak push vs KJ, weak jump off. 189. Weirdly states suspicions heightened at same time he extricates.
Syrenz/LW - entertains two diametrically opposed ideas using strong language for each, wavers, then picks one. Not organic read.
Tom
Shadow– snipes reasonlessly at KJ, tries to pick on KJ for not counter-voting in his analysis post. Vaimes – too preoccupied with protecting his own self-image, non-committed and poor explanations for votes on Cantrip and I, good explanation for vote on Tom (buddy?), but won’t follow through, too-easy clear on shadow (buddy?), multiple extremely poor voting reasons for me (activity, lack of counter-wagon, cheap points, not reading posts fully), not fairly evaluating.
Wisp, tom, and Shadow are the three players I'm having the hardest time pegging. Wisp is there on tone and energy level but he's lacking the tunnel vision he normally has. Tom is tom. But he was really scummy D1 but he's been solid toDay. And scum!tom probably doesn't shoot that early. Shadow on the other hand just feels all kind of wrong but his votes yesterday are so pure.
What I'm getting from grape's posts is that Chris isn't scum. I doubt grape busses a scumbuddy so hard after one of them died. He's not that into bussing too.
I really want to believe tom is just scum caught in a lie, but it's simply not how it works. Scum tom would WIFOM the **** out of us and fight until his last breath.
vote KJ
KJ being townread by both scum is just uhhhh. I don't want to ever lynch tom.
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So now the problem is I don't wanna vote on either of the leading wagons <azrael/fuwa. I would cfd to Last. I'm kinda distrusting KCC but not so hard that I'm willing to vote on that right now.
No other thoughts? Who's scum, KJ? Or are they both scum? Maybe V/V? Which? C'mon, guy I attacked and then backed off of because I liked your persistence and conviction in responses! Weigh in!
One of you/Axel, one of Tom/Shadow, probably last. Maybe Vaimes?
My current grouping for possible scum is in [tom/Vaimes/KCC/Last]. I would vote tom but I think there's 4 votes on him now? and we're not done talking yet.
Last votes:
D1
Cantrip
Kj
Chris
Cantrip
Shadow Azrael kcc
Unvote Azrael
Unvote fuwa
D2
Chris
shadow
Chris
shadow
Kj
Chris
Kj
Chris grape (hammer)
D3 osi
D4
Kj
Vaimes is town due to reaction to Az's claim
Vezok is trown due to reaction to Az's claim KCC has displayed earnest which I tend to lean to town
Wagonomics make me think Shadow/AZ are town
Psychology of posting makes me think beeboy is town as well
It's my list so I get to be town too
4-5 scum in
Grapefruit
Axel
Tom Fuwa
Cantripmancer Rhand
LW DKings
Killjoy
Of these 9, 5 were off the two main wagons (GF, Axel, Tom, Fuwa, LW)
3 were on Az (Cantripmancer, Rhand, dkings)
and 1 was on Shadow (Killjoy)
I don't think Az' wagon was pure, but I have severe doubts three scum hopped onto him if all my assumptions above are correct so 1-2 scum in Mancer/Rhand/DK, with me leaning towards one.
Killjoy is probably just scum if I am right about all of my town reads.
Which leaves 2-3 in the "we don't care who dies among the town members, so we'll just stay on our random wagons."
Kj has spent the whole game voting/scumreading town. He rvs voted and hammered az, but neither mattered.
Even outside mechanics like, defended az right up until he was dead man walking. Tried to push me over grape.
I think for day 1 az/grape/kj/chris powerwolfing makes all the sense.
If chris is a wolf, after d1 didnt work out he went back to his old bussy ways while kj kept it up.
Last has been all over the place. If hes scum its basically spray and pray method, not part of any plan.
If its kj/chris hes actually had pretty decent reads
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I just so do not want to lose to a caught Tom. You really do not understand how much I do not want that to happen. I can lose to wonky mechanics.
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@Axel: I hear you, I think I live in the world where if we do lynch KJ and he’s town, few things would even be speedbumps to a Tom lynch tomorrow.
Pretty much. If KJ flips town ascetic ascetizer, we're speedlynching tom with no second guessing. If Cantrip is scum that played us all than fair game, but I'd rather have KJ dead than alive in LyLo.
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1) Tom's 'effort' posts are primarily info, and less analysis.
2) The analysis isn't actually super connected to all the vote posts.
3) Tom's effort posts don't actually require a lot of effort, which is only relevent if shadow is scum with him.
Certainly some A for effort material from Tom here considering I’d basically said I was going to hammer.
Tempted to just tralalala hammer KJ but I’ve got plenty of time to piddle around and pretend like I know what I’m doing.
Shadow is impressed by the firstof the self preservation info posts. It's literally just tom ISO'd a bunch of people, and colored the votes to his t/s list. It's not that impressive. Yet, shadow takes that as yet another excuse to try to stay on me instead of tom.
4) Tom (I don't thnik) EVER considered scum!Cantrip following cantrip claiming that tom was lying. This is something I just realized and if true, I think it means his thoughts aren't natural. Town tom would have considered scum cantrip. I havene't verified this yet and tom has a lot of posts. I'm not sure I'd find it if I tried since i'm looking for a negative.
I know my reads have been terrible this game. Az, I figured if he was scum, he wouldnt be caught d1, He's Az. He's pretty good at the game. And Grape I just trusted for stupid reasons. Don't let that get in the way of lynching tom, who is now proven scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Coloring votes and names, as you well know cause I believe you did it a couple days ago, is not nothing. And I commented on you doing it as well.
But contextually, Tom put in that time when I basically declared intent to hammer, which does count for something. If it’s Hail Mary scum play, it is solid.
It’s nice that you keep shading me though, do you really think scum!me waits around in a scenario where I’m buddies with Tom and can guarantee your lynch instead? I’m legit asking.
Coloring votes and names, as you well know cause I believe you did it a couple days ago, is not nothing. And I commented on you doing it as well.
But contextually, Tom put in that time when I basically declared intent to hammer, which does count for something. If it’s Hail Mary scum play, it is solid.
It’s nice that you keep shading me though, do you really think scum!me waits around in a scenario where I’m buddies with Tom and can guarantee your lynch instead? I’m legit asking.
It's self preservation. Was he supposed to lay down and die?
I think you're stalling on lynching Tom to see if my wagon becomes more viable. I think you're also trying to play the long game after that and make Tom less viable after I'm dead.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
“See if my wagon becomes viable”
Dude, I could literally hammer you right now, your wagon is viable. If you’re town, show me some critical thinking on this.
“See if my wagon becomes viable”
Dude, I could literally hammer you right now, your wagon is viable. If you’re town, show me some critical thinking on this.
Do it shadow do it.
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1) Tom's 'effort' posts are primarily info, and less analysis.
2) The analysis isn't actually super connected to all the vote posts.
3) Tom's effort posts don't actually require a lot of effort, which is only relevent if shadow is scum with him.
Certainly some A for effort material from Tom here considering I’d basically said I was going to hammer.
Tempted to just tralalala hammer KJ but I’ve got plenty of time to piddle around and pretend like I know what I’m doing.
Shadow is impressed by the firstof the self preservation info posts. It's literally just tom ISO'd a bunch of people, and colored the votes to his t/s list. It's not that impressive. Yet, shadow takes that as yet another excuse to try to stay on me instead of tom.
4) Tom (I don't thnik) EVER considered scum!Cantrip following cantrip claiming that tom was lying. This is something I just realized and if true, I think it means his thoughts aren't natural. Town tom would have considered scum cantrip. I havene't verified this yet and tom has a lot of posts. I'm not sure I'd find it if I tried since i'm looking for a negative.
I know my reads have been terrible this game. Az, I figured if he was scum, he wouldnt be caught d1, He's Az. He's pretty good at the game. And Grape I just trusted for stupid reasons. Don't let that get in the way of lynching tom, who is now proven scum.
theyre actually ALL info and no analysis
The analysis is long since done
I don’t think Tom/KJ is town/town, the way this day has gone doesn’t feel as if that’s a thing (thinking out loud, Vez being scum here would make that theory more credible, but Vez is just town).
In a world where Tom is scum and I'm town, you'd want to limit the comcequence of being not on Tom and being on me. And I think you know both of these things.
Your waiting for my wagon to hopefully not be bad after I flip. Probably won't happen. And I think after Tom gets speed have tomorrow they're gonna look at your terrible reason for not hammering him and you'll be next.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I mean, we are lynching Tom 110%, but we are not doing it instantly.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ironically, had the scum killed anyone but Cantrip we might have been in a forced mass-claim situation. But given they did that, we actually aren't. Still might be a thing to do, but it depends.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I mean, I agree that we are lynching Tom 100%, so at this point I’m not sure a massclaim is worth it until tomorrow? If we lose on the back of Tom being town, then so be it, but I don’t think that happens. The Cantrip kill is slightly odd, but he was going to be confirmed anyway, so it’s not too nuts.
Well, they could have made a play for Tom vs. Cantrip today. I think Tom loses that one - but then again, I thought he should have lost yesterday, and he pulled that one out. Cantrip dying means there are no outs for Tom to be Town.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Chris should still announce who he "tracked." He does not have the credibility to hold that info until later.
Anyone who wants to claim they know who the last scum is for certain is welcome to do that too.
Otherwise, info. should only come out in as much as it helps set us up for tomorrow which sadly is now still going to be lynch/lose.
I guess there may be a "no lynch" option on the table for tomorrow also, but there would probably need to be mechanical reasons to do that.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Unless we have a very good reason not to, then doing a no lynch from 4 to 3 is absolutely a goodbye idea. I’ve had Loren than a few occasions where it would have helped.
Vote Count 4.4
tomsloger (4): Axelrod, Cantripmancer, Killjoy, vezokpiraka
Killjoy (3): tomsloger, Sir Chris, Lastwhisper
Abstain (1): shadowlancerx
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But solidly 90
AZ votes, in order:
Kcc
Syrenz
Shadow
Vaimes
Coloring mine:
Day 1
FuwaRhand
Axel
FuwaTom
Shadow
Tom
FuwaD2
Chris/chris
Fuwa/fuwa/chrisMegs
Last
Chris
Tom
What I'm getting from grape's posts is that Chris isn't scum. I doubt grape busses a scumbuddy so hard after one of them died. He's not that into bussing too.
I really want to believe tom is just scum caught in a lie, but it's simply not how it works. Scum tom would WIFOM the **** out of us and fight until his last breath.
vote KJ
KJ being townread by both scum is just uhhhh. I don't want to ever lynch tom.
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Tempted to just tralalala hammer KJ but I’ve got plenty of time to piddle around and pretend like I know what I’m doing.
D1
azrael(rvs)Unvote
shadow
azrael(hammer)D2
No votes
D3
tom
D4
tom
Unvote
tom
D1 reads: D3
Vote Count 4.5
Killjoy (4): tomsloger, Sir Chris, Lastwhisper, vezokpiraka
tomsloger (3): Axelrod, Cantripmancer, Killjoy
Abstain (1): shadowlancerx
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D1
Cantrip
Kj
Chris
Cantrip
Shadow
AzraelkccUnvote
AzraelUnvote
fuwaD2
Chris
shadow
Chris
shadow
Kj
Chris
Kj
Chris
grape(hammer)D3
osiD4
Kj
D1 reads
D1
KccUnvote
GrapeShadow
Cantrip
Tom
FuwaD2
GrapeTom
Kj
GrapeKj
D3
Kj
D4
Kj
D1 reads
Tom votes:
D1
KccAxel
Kj
VaimesAzGrape
Axel
DkingsFuwa
D2
Chris
GrapeD3
Kj
osiD4
Kj
D1 reads
D2
Even outside mechanics like, defended az right up until he was dead man walking. Tried to push me over grape.
I think for day 1 az/grape/kj/chris powerwolfing makes all the sense.
If chris is a wolf, after d1 didnt work out he went back to his old bussy ways while kj kept it up.
Last has been all over the place. If hes scum its basically spray and pray method, not part of any plan.
If its kj/chris hes actually had pretty decent reads
I just so do not want to lose to a caught Tom. You really do not understand how much I do not want that to happen. I can lose to wonky mechanics.
Pretty much. If KJ flips town ascetic ascetizer, we're speedlynching tom with no second guessing. If Cantrip is scum that played us all than fair game, but I'd rather have KJ dead than alive in LyLo.
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(Not actually though i dont self vote)
1) Tom's 'effort' posts are primarily info, and less analysis.
2) The analysis isn't actually super connected to all the vote posts.
3) Tom's effort posts don't actually require a lot of effort, which is only relevent if shadow is scum with him. Shadow is impressed by the firstof the self preservation info posts. It's literally just tom ISO'd a bunch of people, and colored the votes to his t/s list. It's not that impressive. Yet, shadow takes that as yet another excuse to try to stay on me instead of tom.
4) Tom (I don't thnik) EVER considered scum!Cantrip following cantrip claiming that tom was lying. This is something I just realized and if true, I think it means his thoughts aren't natural. Town tom would have considered scum cantrip. I havene't verified this yet and tom has a lot of posts. I'm not sure I'd find it if I tried since i'm looking for a negative.
I know my reads have been terrible this game. Az, I figured if he was scum, he wouldnt be caught d1, He's Az. He's pretty good at the game. And Grape I just trusted for stupid reasons. Don't let that get in the way of lynching tom, who is now proven scum.
But contextually, Tom put in that time when I basically declared intent to hammer, which does count for something. If it’s Hail Mary scum play, it is solid.
It’s nice that you keep shading me though, do you really think scum!me waits around in a scenario where I’m buddies with Tom and can guarantee your lynch instead? I’m legit asking.
I think you're stalling on lynching Tom to see if my wagon becomes more viable. I think you're also trying to play the long game after that and make Tom less viable after I'm dead.
Dude, I could literally hammer you right now, your wagon is viable. If you’re town, show me some critical thinking on this.
Do it shadow do it.
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The analysis is long since done
I don’t think Tom/KJ is town/town, the way this day has gone doesn’t feel as if that’s a thing (thinking out loud, Vez being scum here would make that theory more credible, but Vez is just town).
Let’s hope this is a scum flip.
In a world where Tom is scum and I'm town, you'd want to limit the comcequence of being not on Tom and being on me. And I think you know both of these things.
Your waiting for my wagon to hopefully not be bad after I flip. Probably won't happen. And I think after Tom gets speed have tomorrow they're gonna look at your terrible reason for not hammering him and you'll be next.
I'm surprised I lasted that long given Az and Grapefruit. At least that will be more info for analysis later.
also hi
Although it could totally be Vez. Just because he counterclaimed early doesn't mean he's town. Rod taught me that.
Killjoy (5): tomsloger, Sir Chris, Lastwhisper, vezokpiraka, shadowlancerx
tomsloger (3): Axelrod, Cantripmancer, Killjoy
Abstain (0):
With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
That is a lynch! Stay tuned for lynch scene.
Day 4 Final Vote Count
Killjoy (5): tomsloger, Sir Chris, Lastwhisper, vezokpiraka, shadowlancerx
tomsloger (3): Axelrod, Cantripmancer, Killjoy
Abstain (0):
Killjoy has been lynched.
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Cantripmancer has been killed.
It is now Day 5.
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Day 5 will end at 11:59PM EST, Tuesday, October 1st.
Ill start:
Infect
Town dayvig
Vote Tom
Tom, if you’re somehow town, then sorry.
Eh, I’ll wait for everyone to check in.
Kinda think it points to Sir Chris. Need to go back and look at context for each vote though.
Will vote when we are ready to hammer him
I mean, we are lynching Tom 110%, but we are not doing it instantly.
Anyone who wants to claim they know who the last scum is for certain is welcome to do that too.
Otherwise, info. should only come out in as much as it helps set us up for tomorrow which sadly is now still going to be lynch/lose.
I guess there may be a "no lynch" option on the table for tomorrow also, but there would probably need to be mechanical reasons to do that.