Remarkably, somehow, still not scum here just wrong about KJ and also mafia in general apparently.
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Remarkably, somehow, still not scum here just wrong about KJ and also mafia in general apparently.
And the last scum who is not Tom is...?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I want Last then shadow and then axelrod to claim. At the moment my info points to tom being 90% scum, but I require a mass claim to be 100%.
90%?
What world are you in that this is not 100%.
We do not need a mass claim to catch Tom. If you had said it could help us get the last one, then that would have been something to consider, but not for catching Tom. There are 4 of us unclaimed. Only one can be scum, so, three may have abilities that the scum would like to know about when deciding what to do tonight, but won't.
Vote: Tom
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
If I’m dead tomorrow, do your due diligence and analyze everything, and then no lynch to make sure. And no one vote in f3 until there is an agreement, don’t be hasty.
If I’m dead tomorrow, do your due diligence and analyze everything, and then no lynch to make sure. And no one vote in f3 until there is an agreement, don’t be hasty.
Vote Tom
I'm curious how often you have seen a No Lynch into a final three and the times that it makes a difference. Seems that for the most part - baring night actions - the scum would just be able to NK someone who wasn't going to be the lynch anyway and it would have no effect. Really mostly for the situations where you just have no idea at all and it's basically a coin flip, in which case you do increase your odds a bit.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
But then, like, the scum could choose not to NK at all. And we could have a literal Mexican stand-off. Which would be kind of silly.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
The example I can think of is 3 little pigs Mafia, which the “cop cleared” godfather Tammy was not killed in f4, and though the town eventually made the wrong call, they had a better chance to succeed there than f4.
In misborn, I tried for a no lynch and was overruled and we mislynched, and the person who was dichotomy-cleared town who would have been the next kill, was actually scum.
Not saying that it’s the same case here, but it is slightly higher EV to raise the odds and doesn’t really cost anything to do.
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I have some thoughts regarding no lynch, but I’m going to wait until we’ve got all relevant info out in the open.
@last: I would like a claim from you today, Vez a full claim from you would be helpful as well. If we no lynch I won’t be claiming today. I assure you that I’ve got very good reason.
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I am annoyed. Crazy Chris spouting stuff day 1 got Grapefruit and Tom and I was convinced I was talking nonsense.
Hm, I wonder if anyone still alive was notably against my Tom push to start day 2.
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I just find it unlikely with Az/GF interaction that Az is an early vote on scum Shadow here? Tom has three town on him. Plus if my mental notes are right the last scum is the day vig right? since Tom was just a role cop faking in topic stuff while the real scum day vig just could shoot whenever. Which, by the way, was very clever. I thought it'd be silly to make scum day vig post in topic. The host agrees with me. I can appreciate that bit of cleverness.
It helps that KJ is apparently traumatized for life over what he did to me in final 3.
Okay so yeah, Shadow being scum would be really strange to me at this juncture.
Also day 1 I reached the conclusion Shadow was town regardless of Az for numerous reasons about game flow and I think if I am going to lose I am going to lose trusting myself rather than guessing against myself. I have been right a lot this game, I am not totally inaccurate or anything, I just made too many assumptions on scum's ability to do anything right. My reads about flow of topic have been pretty good though, so yeah I think Shadow is fine.
Me, Vaimes, and Axel were the three to quick vote Tom start of day 2. Good company for me, at least!
Vezok and LW eh? Oh boy.
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so to start off, it was really hard for me to force myself to be less in your face than I usually am, I didnt want to get lynched by town, and I certainly didnt want to get NK'd, I wanted to survive as long as possible hoping I could get my ability off, and I was expecting a red check based on what I believed given Shadow being on two of wolf trains, and Vezok being unlikely to cc his own partner
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My passive was cool, it gives me the ability to vote again. Surviving long enough to actually utilize my ability was the hardest part given my personality
Anyways, didn't really matter who in the graveyard I checked, so I just went with Tom and Chris
and I was to told "different"
I am sad that he wasn't actually a wolf, but at least now we can remove him from the PoE
Awesome. If that’s claim is true, then this is a town win. Regardless, Chris is now townfirmed, which means we aren’t going to No Lynch. Which means...
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I already cleared Chris on the back of he proved himself a Tracker, the last scum is a daykiller, and there's no way he is going to be a Mafia Tracker/Daykiller.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
shadowlancerx puts the card Scapeshift on the stack.
His Snow-Covered Forests, Stomping Grounds, and Cinder Glades undergo a massive terramorph, shifting right before everyone's eyes. The lands he has on the battlefield quickly become a rupturing volcano and an accompanying Mountain range.
"Trigger Valakut six times, deal you 18?"
shadowlancerx reveals himself as Titanshift and is confirmed town.
Though that doesn't exactly answer the question of Vez vs. Last.
So, Vez. Speak.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I already cleared Chris on the back of he proved himself a Tracker, the last scum is a daykiller, and there's no way he is going to be a Mafia Tracker/Daykiller.
Remarkably, somehow, still not scum here just wrong about KJ and also mafia in general apparently.
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The second remains yet to be seen, but may also be true.
I want Last then shadow and then axelrod to claim. At the moment my info points to tom being 90% scum, but I require a mass claim to be 100%.
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I was hoping for a, "ya your right I'm a liar, and here's why", but I don't think we are getting that response
At least I'd like to know if anyone targeted tom last night.
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What world are you in that this is not 100%.
We do not need a mass claim to catch Tom. If you had said it could help us get the last one, then that would have been something to consider, but not for catching Tom. There are 4 of us unclaimed. Only one can be scum, so, three may have abilities that the scum would like to know about when deciding what to do tonight, but won't.
Vote: Tom
Now that everyone has appeared, is there further reason to wait? This obviously may depend on your role/info.
If I’m dead tomorrow, do your due diligence and analyze everything, and then no lynch to make sure. And no one vote in f3 until there is an agreement, don’t be hasty.
Vote Tom
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I'm curious how often you have seen a No Lynch into a final three and the times that it makes a difference. Seems that for the most part - baring night actions - the scum would just be able to NK someone who wasn't going to be the lynch anyway and it would have no effect. Really mostly for the situations where you just have no idea at all and it's basically a coin flip, in which case you do increase your odds a bit.
Guess we are done, so y'all tomorrow
tomsloger (4): Axelrod, shadowlancerx, vezokpiraka, Lastwhisper
Abstain (2): Sir Chris, tomsloger
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
That is a lynch! Stay tuned for lynch scene.
In misborn, I tried for a no lynch and was overruled and we mislynched, and the person who was dichotomy-cleared town who would have been the next kill, was actually scum.
Not saying that it’s the same case here, but it is slightly higher EV to raise the odds and doesn’t really cost anything to do.
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tomsloger (4): Axelrod, shadowlancerx, vezokpiraka, Lastwhisper
Abstain (2): Sir Chris, tomsloger
tomsloger has been lynched.
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Axelrod has been killed.
It is now Day 6.
With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
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So Axel, can you still post/for how long?
@last: I would like a claim from you today, Vez a full claim from you would be helpful as well. If we no lynch I won’t be claiming today. I assure you that I’ve got very good reason.
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Last, Vez?
Hm, I wonder if anyone still alive was notably against my Tom push to start day 2.
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tomsloger (3): Rhand, Axelrod, Vaimes
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I just find it unlikely with Az/GF interaction that Az is an early vote on scum Shadow here? Tom has three town on him. Plus if my mental notes are right the last scum is the day vig right? since Tom was just a role cop faking in topic stuff while the real scum day vig just could shoot whenever. Which, by the way, was very clever. I thought it'd be silly to make scum day vig post in topic. The host agrees with me. I can appreciate that bit of cleverness.
It helps that KJ is apparently traumatized for life over what he did to me in final 3.
Okay so yeah, Shadow being scum would be really strange to me at this juncture.
Also day 1 I reached the conclusion Shadow was town regardless of Az for numerous reasons about game flow and I think if I am going to lose I am going to lose trusting myself rather than guessing against myself. I have been right a lot this game, I am not totally inaccurate or anything, I just made too many assumptions on scum's ability to do anything right. My reads about flow of topic have been pretty good though, so yeah I think Shadow is fine.
Me, Vaimes, and Axel were the three to quick vote Tom start of day 2. Good company for me, at least!
Vezok and LW eh? Oh boy.
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No lynching isn't going to matter after my claim, but Im going to take a shower and get a coffee first
*waits patiently*
Not counting Axel since he's a stump now and doesn't count towards parity
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Thing in the Ice (Passive): You begin the game with 4 ice counters. Whenever a player is lynched remove one. If you have no ice counters, transform
My passive was cool, it gives me the ability to vote again. Surviving long enough to actually utilize my ability was the hardest part given my personality
Anyways, didn't really matter who in the graveyard I checked, so I just went with Tom and Chris
and I was to told "different"
I am sad that he wasn't actually a wolf, but at least now we can remove him from the PoE
so ya never touching Chris
but I kinda just stated myself as being ok it, to throw off the wolves
Hahahaha
Awesome. If that’s claim is true, then this is a town win. Regardless, Chris is now townfirmed, which means we aren’t going to No Lynch. Which means...
*Drumroll*
(Proph if you please)
I would like to not have to do any work today.
you definitely have higher town!equity over Vezok based on rereading nothing, but I am no hurry to place my vote
cant believe Tom made up that ******* claim, and I think Chris' point makes the most sense on what exactly happened with Tom
"This is who I really am."
shadowlancerx puts the card Scapeshift on the stack.
His Snow-Covered Forests, Stomping Grounds, and Cinder Glades undergo a massive terramorph, shifting right before everyone's eyes. The lands he has on the battlefield quickly become a rupturing volcano and an accompanying Mountain range.
"Trigger Valakut six times, deal you 18?"
shadowlancerx reveals himself as Titanshift and is confirmed town.
Though that doesn't exactly answer the question of Vez vs. Last.
So, Vez. Speak.
so it anyones eyes now, its only me fake claiming, or vezok
for me its always vezok
but I am not fake claiming, and even if I was, that still always makes Chris town either way lmao
I honestly didnt even think of that