My thoughts on grape? Still not touching that slot
Some of his posts are questionable, and I would like him to take a hard stance on something, but still don't believe Azreal makes that read on a partner
Every player was voting in the final votecount, and it's incredily unlikely the entire scum team was bussing Azrael at the end of the day. It's a virtual lock there is scum within the group that stayed on Fuwa (+ Beeboy).
Tom himself is in that group, and vezok is clearly off the table. The shot should be taken from within the group of four players not voting for Azrael here.
...and if you're town, I feel like this really should be a much easier/more important puzzle for you. But you've just tabled... Everyone.
Do you believe the whole entire scumteam bussed Az into the ground?
@Killjoy
I didnt say it was a scum read, you said it was a scum read
I've talk about my memory in the past being a problem, so yes by the same logic, you should know this
I am happy where my vote is
Asking you to have a general view of a player you've played with multiple times is not the same as asking me to know a specific thing about your playstyle.
Also, you said that me saying I was an easy mislynch was weird with no evidence to the contrary. So you don't know if it's weird or not. But you shaded me for it anyway.
This is not your town game dude. There's a purity to it, and it's not here.
there isnt much of anything I like from Killjoy's iso
Chris can live for now
vote: Killjoy
its close to 2:30 in the morning going to sleep, I've gone through killjoys, and beeboys Isos, and skimmed through Cantrip currently
Another point I'd like to make here is that you're saying there "isn't much of anything you like in my iso". That's a thing that scum say that is almost never actually true. Maybe he just wasn't looking for things to like, idk. But I feel like he doesn't want me to be town.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
So, not that any of you need to know this, but I'm currently shopping for a new mattress and it's a complete soul-sucking nightmare out there. I have spent hours upon hours for the past several days looking for reliable and unbiased information and it is hell. And going to the retail big box stores with their extremely over-priced and yet questionable quality is not much better.
I am open to suggestions from people who actually like their mattress. Am not looking for an all foam/latex construction. Would like something that will not fall apart/sag in 12 months.
This is a large part of why I am doing nothing in this game right now. Sorry for the derail.
My paranoia want's to think this is code for something. Logically it's probably not, but still.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
My thoughts on grape? Still not touching that slot
Some of his posts are questionable, and I would like him to take a hard stance on something, but still don't believe Azreal makes that read on a partner
Every player was voting in the final votecount, and it's incredily unlikely the entire scum team was bussing Azrael at the end of the day. It's a virtual lock there is scum within the group that stayed on Fuwa (+ Beeboy).
Tom himself is in that group, and vezok is clearly off the table. The shot should be taken from within the group of four players not voting for Azrael here.
...and if you're town, I feel like this really should be a much easier/more important puzzle for you. But you've just tabled... Everyone.
Do you believe the whole entire scumteam bussed Az into the ground?
don't care much for wagonomics on day 2 in affecting my reads, and I'm not going to change my reads for the sake of the shot, I removed my vote from Chris, I didn't just miraculously turn him into a town lean
I also don't think its an excuse to shoot into a PoE unless you actively wolf read them, I only have one player on Fuwa's wagon as a wolf read
its highly unlikely that all the wolves are on Azreal, but his train stayed up there for a while, so it's still likely that a lot of wolves just took a seat on his train
so by that yes, I believe most of the wolves are on Azreal's train, as I don't think beeboy flips wolf here, ill debate the validity of this as more flips come up, but not now
am I wrong somewhere? probably? do I humor the possibility of being wrong on day 2? nope
He defended beeboy
He attacked shadow
He defended az
And whatever today has been
Like... those first 3 look all wrong to me. Townchris can certainly be wrong too but oof
The beeboy defense i have no problem with for itself. It definitely matches the chris trope of "sees someone wagoned, makes up reasons to defend them"
Shadow push i dont like. Its really... personality based and all the posts arguing with him and chris never works through it
Az defense is something. Its got a bit of a different shape than the beeboy defense where he seems more sure but less fervent?
Kcc theory about az/chris team coming in too cocky definitely makes sense here
If i end up shooting chris though itll be for phase 4/day 2 play
Its really hard for me to imagine townchris being that wrong day 1 and coming into day 2 so limp.
Its like, 2 solvey posts and a bunch of sulky ones that dont do anything
Towniest bit for me was part of az defense.
Hed been talking about the claim and the role a bunch snd then i added the "if az is scum why does no one but me care hes getting lynched" which...
Damn what does the team have to look like to say that *****?
@cantrip and last im traveling through tomorrow evening so i’m not going to go into depth rn but i already laid out my thoughts on the things we were talking about. if you have specific questions i can clarify sure but it feels like neither of you really read what i said.
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The one thing I will say for Tom - not that this clears him in any way - is that, if scum, he's certainly taking his time here. He's at least going through all the motions of doing his due diligence. Which, I could easily see scum-Tom skimping on because of his general reputation.
But I can also still easily see scum-Tom just sitting over there in a big dilemma, wanting to kill someone bad but because they are already down a man needing to make it look as good as possible.
So, meh. I almost don't want to give him too much direction because of the excuse that gives him to be wrong. Like, if we all agree on someone, that's probably the best way this works. Not just giving him a list and letting him pick.
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I guess it's the "if we all agree" part that is impossible, with scum getting a say in it.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ok before getting into dkings posts i want thoughts on this votal
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Azrael (8): Cantrip, shadow, Kcc, Vaimes, Rhand, tom, dkings, vezok
shadow (4): Chris, Azrael, kj, beeboy
tom (2): Axel, Grape
Chris (1): Fuwa
Abstain (1): Last
Its the peak of the az wagon before shadow unvoted to wait for claim. Think this is more important to resolve than the eod wagon since its... intention over resolution?
Something like that
Az is at L-1 here and im pretty soldily town on the whole wagon but dkings
If dkings is town, strong vibes the wolfteam was (at least planning to) powerwolf pretty hard here
Dual fuwa peaks:
Fuwa (7): Grape, Chris, shadow, tom, Cantrip, Kcc, vezok
Azrael (3): Vaimes, Rhand, dkings
shadow (2): kj, beeboy
Chris (1): Fuwa
Vaimes (1): Azrael
tom (1): Axel
Abstain (1): Last
Fuwa (7): Grape, Chris, shadow, tom, Cantrip, vezok, Last
Azrael (5): Vaimes, Rhand, dkings, Kcc, Axel,
shadow (2): kj, beeboy
Chris (1): Fuwa
Vaimes (1): Azrael
Theres should be a peak for shadow and beeboy wagons too but i dont have them saved
Iirc i also got to 4 or 5 votes at some point during that crazy carmel weekend
I don't consider myself doom and gloom at all, but since almost everyone wants me dead me being wagoned seemed pretty likely!
At any rate my WIM fluctuates a lot based on how I am actually feeling, probably can't summon a ton of it. Plus it is hard to go much more into stuff until you shoot Tom as that is going to be another interaction. And if you decide to shoot me then I was right to be "doom and gloom" lol <_<
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I kinda like the initial kj push. Its based on kj giving him an undeserved townread and scum a bit more likely to let that go?
Its a pretty minor thing though and he really stuck on it and its eh
His AZ push is fine i guess, but he always had someone to push harder.
And once AZ claimed he never mentions the behavioral read again, just talks about one specific part of claim.
A Fuwa shot would be solid. She had two separate D1 wagons, so it's fairly likely she's going to get lynched sooner rather than later anyway. Her claim was vague and incomplete, and knowing her alignment would go a long way in analyzing how the end-of-day activity played out.
pretty strong vibe from this post he doesnt actually care if fuwa is scum, just that shes scummy enough to die
Probably never w/w, and actively w/v
I do think hes mostly made good posts. Solvey, theres usually progression.
But i think hes easily the most likely az busser, and i can see a lot of scum motivation.
I'm actually kinda reconsidering my townread on dk. Like @Tom, I'm with you on the initial push, that was a point I made. But he's not doing much to really develop that read on me. He's just popping in saying he wants me dead. It's kinda scummy.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
my current scumteam pick is last/cantrip/kcc. Last people have covered well—also look at your own vca there and tell me who really stands out. cantrip for putting me on his vig shortlist after really not much interaction with me today. if you shoot me check through his posts today and really interrogate through how he got from his position coming into the Day to now.
KCC is a tougher nut to crack but i’m confident that if i’m right on one or both of the prior two that she will be a fruitful angle to go down. my conclusions are similar to what vaimes said so listen to him here.
i’d be very surprised if grape, dkings, killjoy, vaimes were scum.
i just got here so that’s the best i can do.
also, for a good time, lynch vezok. (this would be the most fun vig shot today btw. not the best shot! ).
claim: protective role. that’s what ya get for a dayvig i basically refuse to believe is real. beboy tried to protect vaimes last Night. deck is ad nauseam, ability is angel’s grace.
other: somebody targeted beboy last night with a detrimental ability. i won’t say what because i think that, given the game and beboy’s D1, there’s equal chance it was scum worried about his role and town trying to interfere with scum. however, when you’re piecing together the Night actions later don’t forget this piece.
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I am legitimately confused what harm it can do to say the type of action and then you can explain how it is not a roleblock given the language you used <_<
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realized in the shower that telling you who bboy tried to target but not telling you that it’s effective tonight is... not smart. if it is a scum ability they’ll already know that. if it’s town i’m trying to next level mindgame the scum into trying to kill somebody they already didn’t try to kill once which, while cool if it happens, probably doesn’t outweigh the info.
i withheld due to the mindgame scenario just outlined.
but that’s all i will claim!
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Okay, well, assuming you didn't shoot yet, Tom, please don't do it yet while I think.
Also, I am buying a Casper! It's the hybrid version. I think they were just in the right place at the right time though and I was too exhausted to do any more shopping so I just said, fine, I'll take this one. It does seem nice though. We shall see.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Yeah, I'd rather shoot someone else than Megs. That post reeks of no TMI.
I just don't see scum megs coming here with a doctor claim and giving those reads. Also the way he handled the fact his action was delayed also speaks to a town mindset and not a scum one. I'd still rather have someone else shot.
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I'm interested in the scum!dk world. He could've voted Az and hoped town would organically CFD onto someone else, and then the other buddy got swept up in the villagers moving from Fuwa to Az.
tom, your shot should be one of Last/Chris/Grape, unless you somehow think they're all town?
ill be back in the game tonight, was taking a break due to my work schedule
I could still see town delaying Beeboy, but I won't humor that unless the delayer claims, call that role fishing but it doesn't matter, his claim also makes sense from a town perspective, protecting vaimes I mean
still, think many of the reasons for seeing Beeboy as a wolf are superficial at this point in time, so I stand by my read
I'll be here saying I told you so when he flips town
also, the fact that he humored both a town and wolf action on himself doesn't feel like something a wolf would do if they were trying to get attention off them
/shrug
@Meg
talk to me about the Kcc read?
Cantrip I could see based on my early suspicion of him, also the fact that he seems to be fence-sitting on me so hard
actually talk to me about that grape read as well if you dont mind?
dont agree with the killjoy town read, the DK one is fine atm
I still gotta talk about killjoy, his smug bounce-back on me kinda through me off
I would still rather have Chris shot, that way I can get a better understanding of the fuwa wagon based on his flip, I can only think of one logical option if Chris was to flip town, and that would be Grape despite what I believe
ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THESE BULL***** READS
on a real note, both town and wolf last will make these posts it's NAI
stop trying to trigger me with garbage posts
I'm not really sure what the purpose of this was nor what it has to do with my questioning of dk.
I'm actually wondering if there's not three scum on that wagon. That's mostly I don't think two scum would stay on Fuwa.
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I don't think it's Fuwa because counterwagon.
In order of likelyhood: Maybe Axel/(Cantrip/shadow)/kcc/Vaimes/dkings/vezok
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Are you afraid to vote me? I don't understand the fence-sitting you are doing on my slot
Hmm
Hmmm...
I think dk had a great point here:
...and if you're town, I feel like this really should be a much easier/more important puzzle for you. But you've just tabled... Everyone.
Do you believe the whole entire scumteam bussed Az into the ground?
Asking you to have a general view of a player you've played with multiple times is not the same as asking me to know a specific thing about your playstyle.
Also, you said that me saying I was an easy mislynch was weird with no evidence to the contrary. So you don't know if it's weird or not. But you shaded me for it anyway.
This is not your town game dude. There's a purity to it, and it's not here.
Another point I'd like to make here is that you're saying there "isn't much of anything you like in my iso". That's a thing that scum say that is almost never actually true. Maybe he just wasn't looking for things to like, idk. But I feel like he doesn't want me to be town.
I'll try to get to everything
Im reading these last two isos tonight just not gonna make good posts about them.
Id be a little surprised if megs doesnt end up my most likely scum overall but i dont actually want to shoot him rn
Fuwa (5): Grapefruit21, Sir Chris, tomsloger, vezokpiraka, Lastwhisper
shadowlancerx (1): beeboy
Vaimes (1): Azrael
don't care much for wagonomics on day 2 in affecting my reads, and I'm not going to change my reads for the sake of the shot, I removed my vote from Chris, I didn't just miraculously turn him into a town lean
I also don't think its an excuse to shoot into a PoE unless you actively wolf read them, I only have one player on Fuwa's wagon as a wolf read
its highly unlikely that all the wolves are on Azreal, but his train stayed up there for a while, so it's still likely that a lot of wolves just took a seat on his train
so by that yes, I believe most of the wolves are on Azreal's train, as I don't think beeboy flips wolf here, ill debate the validity of this as more flips come up, but not now
am I wrong somewhere? probably? do I humor the possibility of being wrong on day 2? nope
a response to killjoy will have to wait
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For what it's worth, my preference list is:
Please Shoot
Chris
Last
Fuwa
Meg
KJ
Grape
I guess shooting them is okay
V/LA until Monday.
I'd prefer a Megs or Chris vig.
He defended beeboy
He attacked shadow
He defended az
And whatever today has been
Like... those first 3 look all wrong to me. Townchris can certainly be wrong too but oof
The beeboy defense i have no problem with for itself. It definitely matches the chris trope of "sees someone wagoned, makes up reasons to defend them"
Shadow push i dont like. Its really... personality based and all the posts arguing with him and chris never works through it
Az defense is something. Its got a bit of a different shape than the beeboy defense where he seems more sure but less fervent?
Kcc theory about az/chris team coming in too cocky definitely makes sense here
If i end up shooting chris though itll be for phase 4/day 2 play
Its really hard for me to imagine townchris being that wrong day 1 and coming into day 2 so limp.
Its like, 2 solvey posts and a bunch of sulky ones that dont do anything
Towniest bit for me was part of az defense.
Hed been talking about the claim and the role a bunch snd then i added the "if az is scum why does no one but me care hes getting lynched" which...
Damn what does the team have to look like to say that *****?
But I can also still easily see scum-Tom just sitting over there in a big dilemma, wanting to kill someone bad but because they are already down a man needing to make it look as good as possible.
So, meh. I almost don't want to give him too much direction because of the excuse that gives him to be wrong. Like, if we all agree on someone, that's probably the best way this works. Not just giving him a list and letting him pick.
Vote Count 2.6
tomsloger (3): Axelrod, Sir Chris, Vaimes
Killjoy (3): dkingsland967, vezokpiraka, Lastwhisper
Fuwa (2): Grapefruit21, Grapefruit21
Lastwhisper (1): Killjoy
KittyCupCake (1): Megiddo
Sir Chris (1): Cantripmancer
Abstain (4): tomsloger, Fuwa, KittyCupCake, shadowlancerx
With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
Day 1 will end on Sunday, September 1st, at 11:59 PM.
Fuwa has been prodded.
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Azrael (8): Cantrip, shadow, Kcc, Vaimes, Rhand, tom, dkings, vezok
shadow (4): Chris, Azrael, kj, beeboy
tom (2): Axel, Grape
Chris (1): Fuwa
Abstain (1): Last
Its the peak of the az wagon before shadow unvoted to wait for claim. Think this is more important to resolve than the eod wagon since its... intention over resolution?
Something like that
Az is at L-1 here and im pretty soldily town on the whole wagon but dkings
If dkings is town, strong vibes the wolfteam was (at least planning to) powerwolf pretty hard here
#156 (kj peak)
Kj (7): dkings, Rhand, Cantrip, Axel, tom, shadow, vezok
Cantrip (2): Fuwa, Vaimes
Grape (1): Chris
Fuwa (1): Kcc
Rhand (1): Grape
shadow (1): beeboy
Syrenz (1): Azrael
tom (1): Syrenz
Abstain (1):Kj
Dual fuwa peaks:
Fuwa (7): Grape, Chris, shadow, tom, Cantrip, Kcc, vezok
Azrael (3): Vaimes, Rhand, dkings
shadow (2): kj, beeboy
Chris (1): Fuwa
Vaimes (1): Azrael
tom (1): Axel
Abstain (1): Last
Fuwa (7): Grape, Chris, shadow, tom, Cantrip, vezok, Last
Azrael (5): Vaimes, Rhand, dkings, Kcc, Axel,
shadow (2): kj, beeboy
Chris (1): Fuwa
Vaimes (1): Azrael
Theres should be a peak for shadow and beeboy wagons too but i dont have them saved
Iirc i also got to 4 or 5 votes at some point during that crazy carmel weekend
At any rate my WIM fluctuates a lot based on how I am actually feeling, probably can't summon a ton of it. Plus it is hard to go much more into stuff until you shoot Tom as that is going to be another interaction. And if you decide to shoot me then I was right to be "doom and gloom" lol <_<
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I kinda like the initial kj push. Its based on kj giving him an undeserved townread and scum a bit more likely to let that go?
Its a pretty minor thing though and he really stuck on it and its eh
His AZ push is fine i guess, but he always had someone to push harder.
And once AZ claimed he never mentions the behavioral read again, just talks about one specific part of claim.
pretty strong vibe from this post he doesnt actually care if fuwa is scum, just that shes scummy enough to die
Probably never w/w, and actively w/v
I do think hes mostly made good posts. Solvey, theres usually progression.
But i think hes easily the most likely az busser, and i can see a lot of scum motivation.
Not with chris or dkings at least
Dkings on wagons/positioning
Chris on agenda
Azrael (8): Cantrip, shadow, Kcc, Vaimes, Rhand, tom, dkings, vezok
Azrael (9): Vaimes, Rhand, dkings, Kcc, Axel, Fuwa, shadow, Cantrip, kj
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Prolly my own fault for taking so long to get through everything
You've been a delight
Last words/claim?
my current scumteam pick is last/cantrip/kcc. Last people have covered well—also look at your own vca there and tell me who really stands out. cantrip for putting me on his vig shortlist after really not much interaction with me today. if you shoot me check through his posts today and really interrogate through how he got from his position coming into the Day to now.
KCC is a tougher nut to crack but i’m confident that if i’m right on one or both of the prior two that she will be a fruitful angle to go down. my conclusions are similar to what vaimes said so listen to him here.
i’d be very surprised if grape, dkings, killjoy, vaimes were scum.
i just got here so that’s the best i can do.
also, for a good time, lynch vezok. (this would be the most fun vig shot today btw. not the best shot! ).
claim: protective role. that’s what ya get for a dayvig i basically refuse to believe is real. beboy tried to protect vaimes last Night. deck is ad nauseam, ability is angel’s grace.
other: somebody targeted beboy last night with a detrimental ability. i won’t say what because i think that, given the game and beboy’s D1, there’s equal chance it was scum worried about his role and town trying to interfere with scum. however, when you’re piecing together the Night actions later don’t forget this piece.
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bboy’s night action was delayed.
realized in the shower that telling you who bboy tried to target but not telling you that it’s effective tonight is... not smart. if it is a scum ability they’ll already know that. if it’s town i’m trying to next level mindgame the scum into trying to kill somebody they already didn’t try to kill once which, while cool if it happens, probably doesn’t outweigh the info.
i withheld due to the mindgame scenario just outlined.
but that’s all i will claim!
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I just don't see scum megs coming here with a doctor claim and giving those reads. Also the way he handled the fact his action was delayed also speaks to a town mindset and not a scum one. I'd still rather have someone else shot.
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It doesn't stink nearly as much as Az's cop claim.
Azrael (9): Vaimes, Rhand, dkingsland967, KittyCupCake, Axelrod, Fuwa, shadowlancerx, Cantripmancer, killjoy
Fuwa (5): Grapefruit21, Sir Chris, tomsloger, vezokpiraka, Lastwhisper
shadowlancerx (1): beeboy
Vaimes (1): Azrael
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I'm interested in the scum!dk world. He could've voted Az and hoped town would organically CFD onto someone else, and then the other buddy got swept up in the villagers moving from Fuwa to Az.
tom, your shot should be one of Last/Chris/Grape, unless you somehow think they're all town?
I could still see town delaying Beeboy, but I won't humor that unless the delayer claims, call that role fishing but it doesn't matter, his claim also makes sense from a town perspective, protecting vaimes I mean
still, think many of the reasons for seeing Beeboy as a wolf are superficial at this point in time, so I stand by my read
I'll be here saying I told you so when he flips town
also, the fact that he humored both a town and wolf action on himself doesn't feel like something a wolf would do if they were trying to get attention off them
/shrug
@Meg
talk to me about the Kcc read?
Cantrip I could see based on my early suspicion of him, also the fact that he seems to be fence-sitting on me so hard
actually talk to me about that grape read as well if you dont mind?
dont agree with the killjoy town read, the DK one is fine atm
I still gotta talk about killjoy, his smug bounce-back on me kinda through me off
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Fire when ready.
on a real note, both town and wolf last will make these posts it's NAI
stop trying to trigger me with garbage posts
I'm actually wondering if there's not three scum on that wagon. That's mostly I don't think two scum would stay on Fuwa.
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I don't think it's Fuwa because counterwagon.
In order of likelyhood: Maybe Axel/(Cantrip/shadow)/kcc/Vaimes/dkings/vezok