LnGrrrR (7) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#353), Lastwshisper (#487), Sir Chris (#839), Silvercrys3467 (#843), Rodemy (#858), LnGrrrR (#888)
Grapefruit21 (1) - Rhand (#751),
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Tubba Fett (#732)
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#818)
Rhand (1) - Grapefruit21 (#880)
Not Voting: Vaimes
THATS A LYNCH! LnGrrrrR was Perry Winkle, Nexus Goon!
You are Perry Winkle, Nexus Goon
Who doesn’t know that name? It’s a household name if you have a television. You’re FAMOUS. Well. Kinda. A recurring bit part on a soap counts, right?
Well. "Soap" might be a stretch. It's more of an improv group that does flash mobs and such. But you're pretty well known in most of all the towns in your state! (Of Rhode Island)
You’ve been trying to make the papers for a while now. Now’s your chance! Money, power, fame… it’s all right at your fingertips!
Night Actions: You may perform the kill for your team. Members with additional abilities cannot also perform the kill unless they are the only ones left alive.
It is now Night 1. Day will start in approx 48 hours.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
You all awake to a crowing rooster. Why is there a rooster? Why not?
After searching the rooms, you find tomsloger's body.
tomsloger is dead! He was
You are Morally Grey, Town Vanilla.
That’s not your real name, obviously. It’s not unusual for people in the adult film industry to pick new names to act under. You picked this one because you decided when you got into this that you’d be trying to appeal to some of the… less usual audience.
You're actually the heiress to a toothpick empire (some one you were related to invented them, who knew) but went off to join Summer Born Films for some adventure.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
LnGrrrR (6) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#353), Lastwshisper (#487), Sir Chris (#839), Silvercrys3467 (#843), Rodemy (#858)
Tom probably town, Shadow still questionable (hi, Shadow *waves*), Wisp town, Chris best candidate for the bus, but Silver possible, too. Rod more town than scum.
There, that ought to be plenty of chuckle fuel for the spec chat.
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Anyone else with thoughts on LnGrrr spew? Think it probably clears Grape so anyone who disagrees with that read ought to speak up at least. Didn't find a ton of partnery looking interactions unfortunately. Shinichi (Vaimes) doesn't look great but that's about all.
I don’t think lngrr would react like that towards town.
That would be against his wincon.
And faking that reaction to a buddy would be next level play, which I don’t see Lngrr doing.
I don’t think lngrr would react like that towards town.
That would be against his wincon.
And faking that reaction to a buddy would be next level play, which I don’t see Lngrr doing.
These seem to be contradictory statements.
(1) It would be against his wincon to reply to Cantrip that way if Cantrip is a villager.
(2) LnGrrrR isn't a good enough wolf to fake that reaction to a partner.
So... is Cantrip a villager or LnGrrrR's partner?
Kiiiiind of think you're not this sloppy as a wolf but like.
If it's you/Vaimes or something you're squeezed in pretty tight and have to try to mislunch like, Cantrip/shadow/Rodemy/Tubba in some order.
What do you think of the LnGrrrR/Grape stuff from early game? Do you still think Grape is a wolf?
@silver
uhhm its more like after the 4 or so most recent games I've played with Shin, about 50/50 in terms of alignment, I have enough confidence in speculating his alignment to about 99%
and I hate it kind of since I hate getting meta rid for being inactive
also, Vaimes has never been up for debate in his scum games due to his meta, and somehow Shin being the first holder of the slot changes this mindset, especially when Shin nor Vaimes haven't done anything explicitly wolfy
I also dont specifically trust you yet
as well as Im still trying to debate Grape's alignment based off his posts yesterday as well as EoD, so idk how you are so certain of him being town now
also, "town by claim", is an understatement because I am like obvious town here regardless of the claim
I want to say there is at least one wolf in these voters, but with how this site's meta is, outside a few players, I wouldn't be surprised if all the wolves were bussing Lng
@Vaimes: The early back and forth between Shin and LnGrrr read like lobbing softballs at a partner from both ends, like they knew they needed to say something to each other or something.
Confidence in my reads? Hum.
75/25 there's two wolves in [Vaimes/Rhand/Cantrip/shadow] probably.
95/5 there's two wolves in those four plus Rodemy/Tubba/Chris. If I'm getting snowed it's probably Chris or Rodemy I guess but I'm not at the stage where I'm seriously entertaining those worlds right now.
@Wisp: your vote is bad.
But seriously though you don't have to trust me to tell me why you disagree with my reads. Put me in the PoE and pull Vaimes out of it if you have to, game is still locked unless you think tubba, will, or Chris are wolves.
Did you read LnGrrrR's iso at all? The way he was talking about Grape's meta nearly to the exclusion of anything else is such a weird line for someone who apparently doesn't know what to do as a wolf to take with a partner. Do you think it was theater, and if so, why?
@silver
Maybe, I disagree with your reads cause they sound like spitballs, idk why you are trying to solve the entirety of the game off day 1 and it's interactions
And I haven't done anything since day 2 started, I barely did anything day 1, I'm not gunna bother trying to find mafia off Lng's posts, over individualistic reads at this point in the game
@silver
Maybe, I disagree with your reads cause they sound like spitballs, idk why you are trying to solve the entirety of the game off day 1 and it's interactions
And I haven't done anything since day 2 started, I barely did anything day 1, I'm not gunna bother trying to find mafia off Lng's posts, over individualistic reads at this point in the game
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I'm not trying to find the exact team right now, dude, I'm trying to put the wolves in a box and select the lunch that has the most probability of being a wolf.
You don't have to have to help me if you don't want to but saying my reads "sound like spitballs" is a huge cop out when you won't even iso the dead wolf to see what I'm talking about.
Like if I have to put your nose in it and quote the posts to make you read them I'll do that later, but come on. How do you find his partners without reading the dead wolf?
The way you are currently playing Mafia, and apparently the way you think I should also be, is entirely foreign to me. How could you ever expect to solve a game without reading the dead wolf? Do you not think wolves leave trails to their partners from attempting to distance or the way the wagons move? Who they clear and who they seriously try to lunch? Do you really discount all of that information and just lunch whoever you think sounds wolfy or something?
@Vaimes: The early back and forth between Shin and LnGrrr read like lobbing softballs at a partner from both ends, like they knew they needed to say something to each other or something.
Confidence in my reads? Hum.
75/25 there's two wolves in [Vaimes/Rhand/Cantrip/shadow] probably.
95/5 there's two wolves in those four plus Rodemy/Tubba/Chris. If I'm getting snowed it's probably Chris or Rodemy I guess but I'm not at the stage where I'm seriously entertaining those worlds right now.
Ah, a Shinichi thing. I was completely off then.
Let's pretend I'm LnGR's partner for a sec. Realistically I would've had four options over the course of Day 1 (maybe more, but I'm not trying to be too nitpicky here): bus, defend, mudsling, or do nothing. Strictly from your POV, what choice(s) did scum!Vaimes make, and how does it help his team to win? This might be a little abstract, since even I'm not sure what I'd do hypothetically versus in the heat of the moment, but I am going somewhere with this. Or at least trying to.
I ask about your confidence levels because they seem disproportionately higher compared to yesterDay, and to me LnGR didn't seem like such a huge lynchpin for you. Or am I wrong about that?
I read through LnGR's ISO to find antialignments, and my opinions coming out of it are a little different from yours (Silver), so I'm trying to feel out whether one of us is wrong or you're shooting blanks.
I mean, yes, part of the read is that you replaced into a wolf slot and lost your WIM from Game of Thrones.
Because, no, you weren't really doing anything to advance your wincon as either alignment.
I don't think my confidence has increased ~at all on the Tubba/Will/Chris reads. Wisp is a read by claim (and how he thinks he's been villagery while he simultaneously admits he's done ~nothing is hilarious). Only thing that really changed is LnGrrr being a wolf (1) removes him from the PoE and (2) makes Grape almost always a villager which leaves the PoE pretty tight.
The only antialignment I have from LnGrrr is Grape. You think that was theater?
give vaimes one more day to produce real content, and then tomorrow we bury him, I refuse to believe that he doesn't know how to hunt mafia as town, and just plays like this as both alignments
give vaimes one more day to produce real content, and then tomorrow we bury him, I refuse to believe that he doesn't know how to hunt mafia as town, and just plays like this as both alignments
I mean, yes, part of the read is that you replaced into a wolf slot and lost your WIM from Game of Thrones.
Because, no, you weren't really doing anything to advance your wincon as either alignment.
I don't think my confidence has increased ~at all on the Tubba/Will/Chris reads. Wisp is a read by claim (and how he thinks he's been villagery while he simultaneously admits he's done ~nothing is hilarious). Only thing that really changed is LnGrrr being a wolf (1) removes him from the PoE and (2) makes Grape almost always a villager which leaves the PoE pretty tight.
I completely lost my desire to look at a mafia thread for like, a solid couple days. Even being town seemed like a drag. Big oof.
But I'm good now!
For the antialignments, I was actually talking about Rhand. It looked like LnGR was fanning the flames of a tvt fight when he and Chris started getting hot and heavy. That caught my attention more than uh, anything concerning Grape.
(Also I'm in your PoE and obviously that's wrong, but that goes without saying.)
@Silver: as far as I can tell you have given no read on me whatsoever, and just left it at “I can’t read shadow” which hasn’t ever stopped you from trying before. Why not even try?
Also, can you go into more detail why you’re reading Lng and Grape as anti aligned? I’m not particularly low on Grape, but I certainly don’t think their interaction at eod is unfakeable, especially not if there is day chat and coaching took place.
@Silver: as far as I can tell you have given no read on me whatsoever, and just left it at “I can’t read shadow” which hasn’t ever stopped you from trying before. Why not even try?
I did try, but really I just... don't really need to. You sounded a bit snappy at the beginning of the game which was weird, and you kind of just... exist for me I guess. You were V/LA for a long time (still are, even) and given how many times I've thought you were a villager when you were a wolf...
I don't think you've said anything you wouldn't have said as a wolf, is what it comes down to I guess. You aren't out of your wolf range and you aren't even particularly villagery which I know you're capable of being as both alignments.
Also, can you go into more detail why you’re reading Lng and Grape as anti aligned? I’m not particularly low on Grape, but I certainly don’t think their interaction at eod is unfakeable, especially not if there is day chat and coaching took place.
Not the EoD stuff, the stuff at the beginning of the game where he focused really weirdly on Grape's meta and just kind of talked about it and badgered him about it a bunch. It's super weird to talk about and ask your partner about their meta like that.
Is it possible? Sure, just don't think it's particularly likely.
Like I wake up at 12, focus on my other mafia games which aren't 2 week day phases, then go to work, and then afterwards I get thrown into them again...
Anyway you aren't being questioned about being inconsistent because your claim is self resolving, it really isn't that interesting to me I guess.
I guess part of it is just frustration that you aren't even waiting until you can decide whether you agree with me or not before just dismissing it out of hand because it "sounds spitbally" or whatever.
You're closer to lock town than anyone else so uh. Yeah. Kind of tilting when you dismiss what I'm saying without even looking into it and then vote me and go "lolol I'm not doing anything and I don't have to if I don't want to." Yeah?
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LnGrrrR (7) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#353), Lastwshisper (#487), Sir Chris (#839), Silvercrys3467 (#843), Rodemy (#858), LnGrrrR (#888)
Grapefruit21 (1) - Rhand (#751),
Silvercrys3467 (1) - Tubba Fett (#732)
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#818)
Rhand (1) - Grapefruit21 (#880)
Not Voting: Vaimes
THATS A LYNCH! LnGrrrrR was Perry Winkle, Nexus Goon!
Who doesn’t know that name? It’s a household name if you have a television. You’re FAMOUS. Well. Kinda. A recurring bit part on a soap counts, right?
Well. "Soap" might be a stretch. It's more of an improv group that does flash mobs and such. But you're pretty well known in most of all the towns in your state! (Of Rhode Island)
Night Actions: You may perform the kill for your team. Members with additional abilities cannot also perform the kill unless they are the only ones left alive.
It is now Night 1. Day will start in approx 48 hours.
After searching the rooms, you find tomsloger's body.
tomsloger is dead! He was
That’s not your real name, obviously. It’s not unusual for people in the adult film industry to pick new names to act under. You picked this one because you decided when you got into this that you’d be trying to appeal to some of the… less usual audience.
You're actually the heiress to a toothpick empire (some one you were related to invented them, who knew) but went off to join Summer Born Films for some adventure.
Night Actions: You have no night actions.
It is now Day 2! With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
vote Cantrip
v/la until the 16th
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2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
2. Cantripmancer
3. Grapefruit21
4. Rodemy
5. Lastwhisper
6. Shadowlancerx
7. Sir Chris
8. LngrrrR
9. Silvercrys3467
10. Tubba Fett
11. tomsloger
12. Rhand
I am a villager.
tom is a dead villager.
LnGrrr is a dead wolf.
11. tomsloger9. Silvercrys3467
1. Vaimes
2. Cantripmancer
3. Grapefruit21
4. Rodemy
5. Lastwhisper
6. Shadowlancerx
7. Sir Chris
10. Tubba Fett
12. Rhand
8. LngrrrRWisp is still a villager by claim.
Grapefruit is a villager because of the weird way LnGrrrR was talking about him at the beginning of the game.
11. tomsloger9. Silvercrys3467
5. Lastwhisper
3. Grapefruit21
1. Vaimes
2. Cantripmancer
4. Rodemy
6. Shadowlancerx
7. Sir Chris
10. Tubba Fett
12. Rhand
8. LngrrrRChris just... has a lot of WIM and this read is probably terrible but I dunno. He just feels like a villager.
Tubba is probably a villager for thoughtfulness/level one villager thinking I think he as trouble showing as a wolf.
Rodemy is probably a villager because Will was posting like new town not like a new wolf.
11. tomsloger9. Silvercrys3467
5. Lastwhisper
3. Grapefruit21
7. Sir Chris
10. Tubba Fett
4. Rodemy
1. Vaimes
2. Cantripmancer
6. Shadowlancerx
12. Rhand
8. LngrrrRVote: Vaimes
Hi, be town or be dead please.
@Rhand: why do you think that's theater?
Anyone else with thoughts on LnGrrr spew? Think it probably clears Grape so anyone who disagrees with that read ought to speak up at least. Didn't find a ton of partnery looking interactions unfortunately. Shinichi (Vaimes) doesn't look great but that's about all.
That would be against his wincon.
And faking that reaction to a buddy would be next level play, which I don’t see Lngrr doing.
(1) It would be against his wincon to reply to Cantrip that way if Cantrip is a villager.
(2) LnGrrrR isn't a good enough wolf to fake that reaction to a partner.
So... is Cantrip a villager or LnGrrrR's partner?
Kiiiiind of think you're not this sloppy as a wolf but like.
If it's you/Vaimes or something you're squeezed in pretty tight and have to try to mislunch like, Cantrip/shadow/Rodemy/Tubba in some order.
What do you think of the LnGrrrR/Grape stuff from early game? Do you still think Grape is a wolf?
also, I learned, that I'm not a neighborizor, I'm just a targeted Innocent Child
@Rhand
that's so level 0, that kind of reaction could definitely be faked, I literally saw in one of the most previous games
anyways ill be back once you post more
'cause if Vaimes is town the game is locked unless you disagree with one of my reads.
uhhm its more like after the 4 or so most recent games I've played with Shin, about 50/50 in terms of alignment, I have enough confidence in speculating his alignment to about 99%
and I hate it kind of since I hate getting meta rid for being inactive
also, Vaimes has never been up for debate in his scum games due to his meta, and somehow Shin being the first holder of the slot changes this mindset, especially when Shin nor Vaimes haven't done anything explicitly wolfy
its hard to say at 100% what people may or may not do, in terms of not bussing or bussing Lng
as well as Im still trying to debate Grape's alignment based off his posts yesterday as well as EoD, so idk how you are so certain of him being town now
also, "town by claim", is an understatement because I am like obvious town here regardless of the claim
I want to say there is at least one wolf in these voters, but with how this site's meta is, outside a few players, I wouldn't be surprised if all the wolves were bussing Lng
sorry for the spam, this game is slow anyways
dont @ me about this vote
I read the IC part, and my role name was "Friendly Neighbor", guess I just assumed neighborizor
Silver, why are you singling me out as the only bad look re: LnGR? I think I know what you're thinking, but maybe you'll surprise me.
Just making sure it is what I think it is. I've seen the role before but only as a one-shot.
Confidence in my reads? Hum.
75/25 there's two wolves in [Vaimes/Rhand/Cantrip/shadow] probably.
95/5 there's two wolves in those four plus Rodemy/Tubba/Chris. If I'm getting snowed it's probably Chris or Rodemy I guess but I'm not at the stage where I'm seriously entertaining those worlds right now.
@Wisp: your vote is bad.
But seriously though you don't have to trust me to tell me why you disagree with my reads. Put me in the PoE and pull Vaimes out of it if you have to, game is still locked unless you think tubba, will, or Chris are wolves.
Did you read LnGrrrR's iso at all? The way he was talking about Grape's meta nearly to the exclusion of anything else is such a weird line for someone who apparently doesn't know what to do as a wolf to take with a partner. Do you think it was theater, and if so, why?
Maybe, I disagree with your reads cause they sound like spitballs, idk why you are trying to solve the entirety of the game off day 1 and it's interactions
And I haven't done anything since day 2 started, I barely did anything day 1, I'm not gunna bother trying to find mafia off Lng's posts, over individualistic reads at this point in the game
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I'm not trying to find the exact team right now, dude, I'm trying to put the wolves in a box and select the lunch that has the most probability of being a wolf.
You don't have to have to help me if you don't want to but saying my reads "sound like spitballs" is a huge cop out when you won't even iso the dead wolf to see what I'm talking about.
Like if I have to put your nose in it and quote the posts to make you read them I'll do that later, but come on. How do you find his partners without reading the dead wolf?
The way you are currently playing Mafia, and apparently the way you think I should also be, is entirely foreign to me. How could you ever expect to solve a game without reading the dead wolf? Do you not think wolves leave trails to their partners from attempting to distance or the way the wagons move? Who they clear and who they seriously try to lunch? Do you really discount all of that information and just lunch whoever you think sounds wolfy or something?
Let's pretend I'm LnGR's partner for a sec. Realistically I would've had four options over the course of Day 1 (maybe more, but I'm not trying to be too nitpicky here): bus, defend, mudsling, or do nothing. Strictly from your POV, what choice(s) did scum!Vaimes make, and how does it help his team to win? This might be a little abstract, since even I'm not sure what I'd do hypothetically versus in the heat of the moment, but I am going somewhere with this. Or at least trying to.
I ask about your confidence levels because they seem disproportionately higher compared to yesterDay, and to me LnGR didn't seem like such a huge lynchpin for you. Or am I wrong about that?
Because, no, you weren't really doing anything to advance your wincon as either alignment.
I don't think my confidence has increased ~at all on the Tubba/Will/Chris reads. Wisp is a read by claim (and how he thinks he's been villagery while he simultaneously admits he's done ~nothing is hilarious). Only thing that really changed is LnGrrr being a wolf (1) removes him from the PoE and (2) makes Grape almost always a villager which leaves the PoE pretty tight.
But I'm good now!
For the antialignments, I was actually talking about Rhand. It looked like LnGR was fanning the flames of a tvt fight when he and Chris started getting hot and heavy. That caught my attention more than uh, anything concerning Grape.
(Also I'm in your PoE and obviously that's wrong, but that goes without saying.)
@Silver: as far as I can tell you have given no read on me whatsoever, and just left it at “I can’t read shadow” which hasn’t ever stopped you from trying before. Why not even try?
Also, can you go into more detail why you’re reading Lng and Grape as anti aligned? I’m not particularly low on Grape, but I certainly don’t think their interaction at eod is unfakeable, especially not if there is day chat and coaching took place.
@last: why Tom?
I’m out.
@vaimes
Why are you confused? I think your content is very shallow
vote sir chris
I will die with this ship
And nobody is pushing at me for stating I never read the game, but I'm making comments that's contradict that, it's so glorious
Seriously it is not okay to wave your claim in our faces and refuse to actually play just because no one is pushing you.
It's kind of tilting that you're blatantly refusing to play because you "don't have to."
For now, keep up the good work
I don't think you've said anything you wouldn't have said as a wolf, is what it comes down to I guess. You aren't out of your wolf range and you aren't even particularly villagery which I know you're capable of being as both alignments.
Not the EoD stuff, the stuff at the beginning of the game where he focused really weirdly on Grape's meta and just kind of talked about it and badgered him about it a bunch. It's super weird to talk about and ask your partner about their meta like that.
Is it possible? Sure, just don't think it's particularly likely.
Also to be fair, I'm still on v/la, between last Thurs and today, I've worked 72 hours
Tomorrow is my first day off since last Weds,I will provide real content tomorrow
:/
What I have a problem with is you laughing about how you're getting away with not doing anything and using your claim as an excuse.
This:
Is not being V/LA. It sounds like you're trolling on purpose because you don't think you can be lunched.
I do have to do a real reread tomorrow tho
Anyway you aren't being questioned about being inconsistent because your claim is self resolving, it really isn't that interesting to me I guess.
I guess part of it is just frustration that you aren't even waiting until you can decide whether you agree with me or not before just dismissing it out of hand because it "sounds spitbally" or whatever.
You're closer to lock town than anyone else so uh. Yeah. Kind of tilting when you dismiss what I'm saying without even looking into it and then vote me and go "lolol I'm not doing anything and I don't have to if I don't want to." Yeah?