Oh yeah, Will and Shadow had that whole "is English your first language" exchange that didn't even sort of feel like theatre. Pretty sure that clears Rod.
Oh yeah, Will and Shadow had that whole "is English your first language" exchange that didn't even sort of feel like theatre. Pretty sure that clears Rod.
I am rolling my eyes really, really hard.
Really? 202-204 you think comes from buddies? I just feel like Shadow, specifically, doesn't take that route to establish "we don't know each other, never talked to each other".
I'm with Tubba: if your case is more than "he slipped in 980 lolscum!", then I'm happy to hold off to hear it.
Like ??? cases are more or less built on personal interpretation. This is not an interpretation.
If you need an essay from me on why he’s scum, I’m not going to do it, because it can be summed up (and has been multiple times) as “he is not town.”
And if you’re worried about the 0.001% chance that he’s town who somehow scumslipped, the game isn’t going to end. Saving him for endgame is suboptimal in so many ways and I don’t see how I’m the unreasonable one for wanting him dead last week.
there is literally no world, where we dont kill Rodemy next if you flip town, and you are just pointing fingers, because its not obvious he is scum, its apparently obvious to you, but you are refusing to help us
Like ??? cases are more or less built on personal interpretation. This is not an interpretation.
If you need an essay from me on why he’s scum, I’m not going to do it, because it can be summed up (and has been multiple times) as “he is not town.”
And if you’re worried about the 0.001% chance that he’s town who somehow scumslipped, the game isn’t going to end. Saving him for endgame is suboptimal in so many ways and I don’t see how I’m the unreasonable one for wanting him dead last week.
I...just don't really see it as a definitive scumslip. Could it be? I suppose, but I think it's just as likely to be indicative of town, who is-barring mechanical results--rarely completely sure.
How is asking about Will’s native language any different from asking a newb partner their mafia experience?
It's more Will's response, sounding apologetic and slightly nervous that makes me think it's genuine. I don't think a scum buddy has any trepidation in responding there.
The best path, if you think I’m scum, is to kill Rod and then me. But you won’t have to, because the game will be over.
If you kill me first, you’re just going to pointlessly tinfoil other worlds and make it that much harder for town to win.
A) I don't think you are or can be so certain that Rod is scum to say the game will be over, b) why would we kill Rod if we think you're scum, and c) I think it's most telling that I don't get any sense of urgency or conviction from your posts (prior to now, specifically, when you're on the verge of being lunched, of course) that makes me believe that YOU believe Rod is scum. You take many, many opportunities to tell us that you think Rod is scum, but you're not pushing for his lunch, I don't see any scrutiny of the rest of his posts from you, trying to find additional evidence...you're just like "oh, and Rod is scum, btw."
Oh yeah, Will and Shadow had that whole "is English your first language" exchange that didn't even sort of feel like theatre. Pretty sure that clears Rod.
I am rolling my eyes really, really hard.
Really? 202-204 you think comes from buddies? I just feel like Shadow, specifically, doesn't take that route to establish "we don't know each other, never talked to each other".
I'm with Tubba: if your case is more than "he slipped in 980 lolscum!", then I'm happy to hold off to hear it.
I don’t really see why it couldn’t, I feel like Shadow would put in work to help a newbie along. It doesn’t move the needle for me.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm sorry but this is just not the adamant and unyielding voice I'd expect from someone who is completely sure they caught a wolf
should've roleblocked Silver and killed me tbh, imagine that game state, but you rather play with wifom and keep me alive, then kill a joat, which has/had a chance of having a vigilante shot
we can hammer this at any point, and just go from there if Vaimies isnt actually a wolf
@Killjoy
my vote is on Vaimes, as well as not-voting
So, i’m Gonna softclaim right now; if vaimes isn’t Scum, I have a good PR I have been holding off on. I’m using it tonight. I do seriously hope it wins us the game.
Either scum can roleblock me and risk LW getting confirmed as town.
Or they can kill me and lower their chances of winning.
I’m goin on a limb and believing LW’s claim.
Good luck.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
So, i’m Gonna softclaim right now; if vaimes isn’t Scum, I have a good PR I have been holding off on. I’m using it tonight. I do seriously hope it wins us the game.
Either scum can roleblock me and risk LW getting confirmed as town.
Or they can kill me and lower their chances of winning.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Still brimming with excitement from finding the dead Nexus member an hour ago, the guests of Hill House find themselves on the warpath.
"ITS VAIMES! IT's GOTTA BE!" shouts Sir Chris. "I'M NEVER WRONG ABOUT THESE THINGS!"
No one really heard him however since every one of them were all shouting similar things.
Except Vaimes. All that was coming out of him was screams of fear and rage. Vaimes begins to run. The group gives chase.
He darts in and out of rooms trying to evade. There's too many! Lastwhisper catches him, but Vaimes shrugs him off! He makes a break for the stairs!
But then he feels something on his leg! Vaimes looks down!
It's Rodemy! Vaimes struggles hard.Almost out! One last pull...
but then Rodemy releases his leg. Vaimes wasn't expecting it, and stubles forward fast... He trips... and falls over the bannister!
The rest of the group hurries to the edge... and sees Vaimes' body, motionless on the floor.
Vaimes was lynched! He was:
Wallace White Jr, Nexus Roleblocker!
You are Wallace White Jr., Nexus Roleblocker
You’ve always hated the name Wallace. It’s just so… beneath you. But that's what your parents named you, and your dad would have another heart attack if you changed it.
You make your living as a pet groomer. You love wearing sweatervests and turtlenecks with blue jeans. Every day.
Actually you’re a doctor but ironically you’ve always found such honorariums pretentious. Your license was recently revoked for prescribing unapproved experimental painkillers. You’re certain you can make one that is as effective as an opiate but without the addictive properties.
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You may also perform the kill for your team. You cannot perform the kill and use your Roleblock on the same night unless you are the only one alive.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
For those who are interested, an early sneak peak at my role
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The "look at my role thing" was cryptic because I didn't want to reveal too much and get blocked and killed both, but basically if my kill went missing I didn't want people to just gloss over my role and let Wisp claim roleblocked again. Just a spot of paranoia that he might be a fake claiming wolf and my flip wouldn't actually be read lol.
Did we not have a protective at all this game? Other than Grapefruit/Vezok, Grapefruit claimed limited shot Commuter in spec chat lol.
I still think I was townie even outside the claim, I don't slank as a wolf, I barely ever slank as town either, like I didn't need to do much day 1, grr was obvious, day 2 I got a little disconnected though because I kept reading the thread and didn't really know what to say
Yeah shadow is a hard catch. I shot him because he was the only player in the PoE I wasn't completely sold on being a villager and because Rhand was LnGrrr's counter wagon and then also shadow's, so when he flipped town I was like. Hmm.
Also he was the only person alive even remotely trying to get credit for the LnGrrr lunch and I figured any wolf on LnGrrr's wagon would have tried to turn it into towncred.
Fun fact: I almost shot Vaimes in the face N1 and didn't because I wanted to play with him lol.
Also, yes, I should've watched Wisp N1 that was totally my bad. I didn't even think to try for seeing a roleblocker.
I am not gonna lie, I had a rough time with this game. I maybe could have cranked out some hardcore effort and had it go a little better, but (And this isn’t a slight on my buddies) this team was going to be a hard sell to win anyway, sometimes that’s just how it goes. Also, there are far too many people who get to use the “i suck as scum” townclear, which is really obnoxious.
Also, Tom getting tons of credit and me getting zero when we started in on Lng at the same exact time was infuriating
Good work though town, you got there and only had one mislynch. Seriously though, stop waiting until the last minute, it’s not a waste of time to end the day 24-48 hours early, we need to start figuring that out.
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I saw that early powerwolfing with that post on Chad, it was good cause it got our eyes away from him, and people are more likely to listen to you
I played this game like there would be some challenge to it.
I overestimated the opponent, and it cost us nothing. Fair enough!
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Make your case for me. Why is Rod scum?
I'm with Tubba: if your case is more than "he slipped in 980 lolscum!", then I'm happy to hold off to hear it.
If you need an essay from me on why he’s scum, I’m not going to do it, because it can be summed up (and has been multiple times) as “he is not town.”
And if you’re worried about the 0.001% chance that he’s town who somehow scumslipped, the game isn’t going to end. Saving him for endgame is suboptimal in so many ways and I don’t see how I’m the unreasonable one for wanting him dead last week.
If you kill me first, you’re just going to pointlessly tinfoil other worlds and make it that much harder for town to win.
you can both die honestly, but you first always
I...just don't really see it as a definitive scumslip. Could it be? I suppose, but I think it's just as likely to be indicative of town, who is-barring mechanical results--rarely completely sure.
It's more Will's response, sounding apologetic and slightly nervous that makes me think it's genuine. I don't think a scum buddy has any trepidation in responding there.
A) I don't think you are or can be so certain that Rod is scum to say the game will be over, b) why would we kill Rod if we think you're scum, and c) I think it's most telling that I don't get any sense of urgency or conviction from your posts (prior to now, specifically, when you're on the verge of being lunched, of course) that makes me believe that YOU believe Rod is scum. You take many, many opportunities to tell us that you think Rod is scum, but you're not pushing for his lunch, I don't see any scrutiny of the rest of his posts from you, trying to find additional evidence...you're just like "oh, and Rod is scum, btw."
Vote: Vaimes
I don’t really see why it couldn’t, I feel like Shadow would put in work to help a newbie along. It doesn’t move the needle for me.
Vaimes (3) - Sir Chris (#1542), Lastwhisper (#1595), Cantripmancer (#1609)
Rodemy (1) - Vaimes (#1584)
Not Voting: vezokpiraka, Rodemy, Cantripmancer,
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Deadline is Aug 10, 11:59 pm Pacific.
should've roleblocked Silver and killed me tbh, imagine that game state, but you rather play with wifom and keep me alive, then kill a joat, which has/had a chance of having a vigilante shot
we can hammer this at any point, and just go from there if Vaimies isnt actually a wolf
@Killjoy
my vote is on Vaimes, as well as not-voting
I am a little weary of this.
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Sounds like you know what he is gonna flip.
Either scum can roleblock me and risk LW getting confirmed as town.
Or they can kill me and lower their chances of winning.
I’m goin on a limb and believing LW’s claim.
Good luck.
vote killjoy
Only scum would be so cruel
Vaimes (4) - Sir Chris (#1542), Lastwhisper (#1595), Cantripmancer (#1609), Rodemy (#1670)
Rodemy (1) - Vaimes (#1584)
Not Voting: vezokpiraka, Cantripmancer,
That's a lynch! Lynch scene to come!
"ITS VAIMES! IT's GOTTA BE!" shouts Sir Chris. "I'M NEVER WRONG ABOUT THESE THINGS!"
No one really heard him however since every one of them were all shouting similar things.
Except Vaimes. All that was coming out of him was screams of fear and rage. Vaimes begins to run. The group gives chase.
He darts in and out of rooms trying to evade. There's too many! Lastwhisper catches him, but Vaimes shrugs him off! He makes a break for the stairs!
But then he feels something on his leg! Vaimes looks down!
It's Rodemy! Vaimes struggles hard.Almost out! One last pull...
but then Rodemy releases his leg. Vaimes wasn't expecting it, and stubles forward fast... He trips... and falls over the bannister!
The rest of the group hurries to the edge... and sees Vaimes' body, motionless on the floor.
Vaimes was lynched! He was:
You’ve always hated the name Wallace. It’s just so… beneath you. But that's what your parents named you, and your dad would have another heart attack if you changed it.
You make your living as a pet groomer. You love wearing sweatervests and turtlenecks with blue jeans. Every day.
Night Actions: You’ll get these painkillers right eventually. Maybe this game is the place to test your newest concoction!
Once per Night, you may visit another player. Any actions they take that night are blocked.
You may also perform the kill for your team. You cannot perform the kill and use your Roleblock on the same night unless you are the only one alive.
Town Wins! I'll post Roles and Commentary soon.
Gg everyone
Luv ya Rod <3
Good game!
The "look at my role thing" was cryptic because I didn't want to reveal too much and get blocked and killed both, but basically if my kill went missing I didn't want people to just gloss over my role and let Wisp claim roleblocked again. Just a spot of paranoia that he might be a fake claiming wolf and my flip wouldn't actually be read lol.
Did we not have a protective at all this game? Other than Grapefruit/Vezok, Grapefruit claimed limited shot Commuter in spec chat lol.
Also he was the only person alive even remotely trying to get credit for the LnGrrr lunch and I figured any wolf on LnGrrr's wagon would have tried to turn it into towncred.
Fun fact: I almost shot Vaimes in the face N1 and didn't because I wanted to play with him lol.
Also, yes, I should've watched Wisp N1 that was totally my bad. I didn't even think to try for seeing a roleblocker.
Grr started it off, flipped wolf in my first game
Then Rhand starts it off next game, flips wolf
Then now grr starts it off again, and flips wolf again
Also, Tom getting tons of credit and me getting zero when we started in on Lng at the same exact time was infuriating
Good work though town, you got there and only had one mislynch. Seriously though, stop waiting until the last minute, it’s not a waste of time to end the day 24-48 hours early, we need to start figuring that out.
I saw that early powerwolfing with that post on Chad, it was good cause it got our eyes away from him, and people are more likely to listen to you
I wanna be a wolf with you so bad, it would be so fun
I think I'm just an obvious villager when I'm a villager, and if I'm not obviously a villager after some flips I'm probably a wolf.
Even felt like Chris got there on my obvious villageryness despite his tinfoil at the end of D2, he just didn't want to be wrong lol.
I overestimated the opponent, and it cost us nothing. Fair enough!
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