vote: Chris
gunna start off here, too much self-awareness in his first two posts coming into today, I hate it
we also could've had shadow yesterday, it's a good thing that Silver knows how to properly use the vigilante role
I don't get what I am supposed to be looking for in his role card though, I am assuming he breadcrumbed his watch, or the neighborize
I gotta go back and look at both his posts and shadows
He didn't breadcrumb anything; he stated that he used the watch on Chris N1 (post 1085) and said:
Okay, I'm just going to put this to bed because the paranoia surrounding me for not... I don't even know what you expected me to do, push someone strongly when that isn't a thing I do without solid evidence that LnG didn't leave behind?
Anyway, I'm a JoAT and I had a 1-shot watch that I used on Chris last night.
Not claiming results unless someone really wants them because it gives wolves more info than I think they should have but if a bunch of people want them, I will. Gonna keep my other two abilities under wraps but they aren't that strong and I thought Chris would be the kill.
Bare minimum he was saying "no one targeted Chris"; slight possibility he was saying "someone targeted Chris, but he wasn't the NK and Wisp claimed roleblock, so whomever targeted Chris is more likely town PR". Given the willingness to claim if enough people wanted him to, I'm leaning toward the former.
Wisp, why did you vote Rhand over Shadow during the fire drill yesterDay?
Me being the scum roleblocker truly makes 0 sense with the scumbuddies of lng and shadow. Also me caring about your neighborize versus blocking the claimed Jack also makes no sense, scum is clearly stupid <_<.
Vezok - I was thinking "oh, that's rather defensive from Rhand. Let's see where it goes."
I've also never seen Columbo.
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Also Wisp I am like, the most self-aware person in the game. And both night kills died saying "Chris is likely town." Like, guys. I know I am not on my A game but there is a lot wrong with thinking I am scum if you read my interactions.
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Hey tubba, you should vote shadow now. If you still want to lunch him, I mean.
I at the time had not fully realized that Rhand was at L1, and it was getting close to the deadline, so I moved my vote
I made it clear that I wanted Shadow dead multiple times, but it was not going to happen, and now we know why
also I was on shadow up until I moved my vote to Rhand, @Cantrip, so idk what your point is
Rhand (3) - Vaimes (#299), Grapefruit21 (#300), Will-98 (#329)
LnGrrrR (3) - tomsloger (#144), Silvercrys3467 (#348), shadowlancerx (#353)
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#230)
tomsloger (1) - LnGrrrR (#153)
Grapefruit21 (1) - Rhand (#268)
Will-98 (1) - Sir Chris (#332)
Not Voting: Rumanshi, Tubba Fett
Is it possible/probable that Rhand's wagon was all-town? My gut says no, with Vaimes the stronger possibility (in combination with his lack of content this game).
LnGrrrR (5) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#353), Lastwshisper (#487), Silvercrys3467 (#607), Rhand (#611)
Rhand (3) - Vaimes (#299), Grapefruit21 (#300), Will-98 (#329)
tomsloger (1) - LnGrrrR (#153), Sir Chris (#604),
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#230)
Not Voting: Tubba Fett
Shadow was actually the 3rd vote on LnG (Silver was 2nd, but unvoted at one point). Wisp replaced in shortly after this, voted Silver (480), then quite quickly made some small reads on LnG and voted there (487), sitting on it the rest of the Day.
Wisp, last game I played with you, your vote moved around a LOT more frequently; why not this game?
Rhand (3) - Grapefruit (#1055), Silvercrys3467 (#1236), Rodemy (#1255)
shadowlancerx (3) - Sir Chris (#1225), Lastwhisper (#1291), Rhand (#1294)
Sir Chris (1) - shadowlancerx (#1146)
Rodemy (1) - Vaimes (#1058)
Not Voting: Cantripmancer, Tubba Fett
With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
Deadline is Sunday, June 28 at midnight PST.
V/LA: Vaimes through the week, Cantrip through today
Chris posts 1288 with pretty strong language against Shadow, and Wisp stops voting Chris to vote with Chris, citing the "rule of 3" that Chris pointed out as the rationale.
Rodemy (4) - Vaimes (#1058), Sir Chris (#1349), Lastwhisper (#1375), shadowlancer (#1421)
Rhand (2) - Grapefruit (#1055), Rodemy (#1255)
shadowlancerx (2) - Rhand (#1294), Silvercrys3467 (#1329)
Sir Chris (1) - Cantripmancer (#1388)
Not Voting: Tubba Fett
And here, Shadow joins the Rod wagon after Wisp. (Btw, this move from Shadow "to consolidate wagons" when it was really putting Rod at 4 with Rhand and Shadow both at 2 makes me think Rod is more likely town.)
Wisp, in 1375 you say you're going "back to Rodemy", but I don't think you'd voted Rod at all up to that point? I went a ways back in your iso and didn't see a vote, 1059 you seemed genuinely surprised by the possibility of a Rod slip (couldn't find it, suspected Vaimes for highlighting it without just giving it to you); 1081 you praised Rod's 1080; 1096 you joked with him and said if you were a wolf and not with Tom or Chris, you'd kill them 100% of the time; 1100 you defended Rod; 1164 you tell him to vote you if he thinks you're a wolf; 1171 you say you should be voting him for how he treated your ability claim, but it's probably just a Rod thing (or maybe you'll tunnel him); 1247 you say Rod senses are tingling; 1266 you respond to him, but still aren't voting/sounding like you intend to vote; 1373 you barn Rod on questioning Silver, and then you vote Rod in 1375. It feels to me like your reasoning for that vote switch is fabricated.
All, as the above probably makes clear, my tinfoil is that Wisp's claim is fake, there IS no roleblocker, and this "near basic" setup is JOAT vs 3x goons. Unfortunately, if there IS a roleblocker, this is probably exactly why they've been blocking Wisp, hoping that town will fall into the trap. I could see a scum team of 3x goons going "hey, town is probably super low power; we could get away with a gambit".
Normally I'd think that Wisp was less likely to be buddies with Shadow after following him onto the LnG wagon and then again onto Chris D2, and mostly the same with Shadow following Wisp onto Rod, but I also know that Shadow is very good at messing with wagon analysis.
So I really need some strong opinions on this, because I feel like Wisp has been EXCEPTIONALLY scummy multiple times throughout the game, but I gave her a pass because of the claim, and I don't want to get snowed by a fake claim like this. And the time for this discussion is toDay when we still have a mislunch left, not toMorrow. So...am I just being paranoid? (Wisp, I welcome your thoughts as well, but, obviously, I'll be taking them with a grain of salt.)
This isn't really a case, per se (probably just another disjointed wall that half the game won't even read--wave if you got this far), just me trying to figure out if I need to spin my wheels seriously considering Wisp, or if I just need to cut the paranoia and give her the locktown read. Because if we don't sort her toDay, I don't think I have the nerve to gamble on her being the last wolf in LYLO.
A few other things I noticed while researching:
1280: Is it TOO brazen, even for Chris, to go "do people think LnG's wagon was all-town" when he himself was on that wagon if he was scum? When hypothetical buddy!Shadow was also on the wagon?
1284: I don't think scum!Grape ever closes off the Silver avenue at this point in the game. Vezok strongly likely town? I mean...that was after Silver's JOAT claim, so I guess it's possible that Grape did this thinking he'd never get him lunched, so may as well townfirm him, but...
Wisp, help me understand your 1286, specifically what you're saying about Rhand?
Chris, in 1288 you said that LnG's question to you in 273 was indicative of you being town. I don't see it as such (which, admittedly, could be me being in a tunnel). Unpack that for me; why does it make you more likely town?
vote me then, I'm fine with dying at this point, I'm not going to bother at this point highlighting anything that makes it unlikely that I am ever wolves with Shadow/Grr
because it should be obvious
idk why yall keep calling my claim fabricated
the only world where I am fake is the one where I completely made up the roleblocker claim when there was a chance of there existing a town one, which would 100% of the time out me, or two, I am the roleblocker, and I role blocked myself twice as some stunt (ok)
come on people, I shouldn't have to explain anything to you at this point
I probably dont get to use my ability tonight, which is still ok, or they shoot me because they realize its dumb to waste a PR on me
honestly I was on Grr almost all day, except when I came in voting Silver, hard pushed for his death, dont even know what kind of wifom they are trying to produce from keeping my slot alive, and wasting their roleblocker on me
the only conviction Rhand had is Grape and thats mostly after some omgusing, still think he is playing like he did in the previous game where he was town, mafia is probably again waiting for us to sike ourselves out, or they are weak if either of these two are hits
dont believe Rhand as wolf, or Chris as a wolf, just lets the game stagnate on them like this
ive literally watched wolf rhand make up bull***** reads to look towny, so exactly what is he doing here, though I wish he would give another read that isnt Grape
The second to last line (and several posts previous) make it sound like you think Rhand is town, but then that last line sounds like your mindset on him is "Rhand is towny. This thing he's doing right now is something I've seen him do as a wolf." I...don't know why you say that last line if you think Rhand is town (or why it doesn't make you reassess him).
Not going to go into a ton of details with you until/unless it's absolutely necessary, but as to your question about why you would chance faking that there's a roleblocker...if you're a 3rd goon (and the team is just 3 goons), then a town roleblocker becomes HUGELY unlikely (because best case they're a red herring; worst case they actively hurt their team for no good reason), so you'd be pretty safe claiming it.
@cantrip
That has to be a typo, since if you read my iso, I've said the exact opposite elsewhere
I thought so, too, based on your general opinion of Rhand, but I'm not sure what word got typo'd that would make all that make sense. It feels like you suddenly forgot your read on him, which is...weird.
BTW, I love gamestates where there's likely only one scum left. The paranoia is cut to a fraction of what it was with 2 alive because a lot of "is this theatre" and "is that a coordinated attack" situations go right out the window.
HUH.
I just found something.
Ok, now I need everyone to weigh in on Wisp, please (except you, Wisp, I know you'll protest your innocence. ).
I mean I can't really confirm the roleblock unless I'm dead, but like we are in a good spot, so voting me off the island isn't the worst, I just can't see how y'all can justify that I am still a wolf lol
Wisp is saying wolf Rhand would have bsed. he let it stagnate instead. Wisp/shadow never vote me back to back like they did as scum. He is town.
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You hunt bud I will defend you. And not get confused like I did with Rhand.
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I’m sorry, I know this is obnoxious, but I’m kinda gonna be V/LA again for GenCon this weekend. Except not really, because mafia only happens in the evenings, so I should have long chunks of daytime to myself if no one wants to hang out.
I’ll finish my catchup during my super duper fun overnight train ride.
Rodslot 100% should’ve been dealt with, and not voting him toDay means you’re committing to him being clear, no takesies backsies. So think about it.
If I’m wrong on Rod I’ll doublecheck LW, since there’s few worlds where scum block him over a JOAT claim imo. That’s leaving yourself open to potential cops, vigs or docs.
Rodslot 100% should’ve been dealt with, and not voting him toDay means you’re committing to him being clear, no takesies backsies. So think about it.
If I’m wrong on Rod I’ll doublecheck LW, since there’s few worlds where scum block him over a JOAT claim imo. That’s leaving yourself open to potential cops, vigs or docs.
Are you scum Vaimes?
Why were you not voting at the end of day 1?
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also that shade makes me want to vote you more... idk how you have the audacity as a town player to not participate in a lynch and then call us all clowns like somehow town cant be wrong...
I've just finished page 5 and all I want to do is lynch Sir Chris.
Gosh that slot looks so scummy just by VCA. The whole exchange with him and shadow on page 5 also looks extremely fake. Shadow is testing the waters seeing if a bus is viable and Chris keeps ignoring him because he knows shadow will retreat in case Chris is getting wagoned or at least can reap the bus credit.
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Are you ******* kidding me. Dude's not going to bus active scum ROLEBLOCKER Sir Chris day 1, jesus man.
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also that shade makes me want to vote you more... idk how you have the audacity as a town player to not participate in a lynch and then call us all clowns like somehow town cant be wrong...
I was unexpectedly busy during deadline and y’all lynched the person I believed wasn’t partners with LnGR.
Rodslot 100% should’ve been dealt with, and not voting him toDay means you’re committing to him being clear, no takesies backsies. So think about it.
If I’m wrong on Rod I’ll doublecheck LW, since there’s few worlds where scum block him over a JOAT claim imo. That’s leaving yourself open to potential cops, vigs or docs.
Are you scum Vaimes?
Why were you not voting at the end of day 1?
I forget.
Think I replaced in and work got really busy or something.
also that shade makes me want to vote you more... idk how you have the audacity as a town player to not participate in a lynch and then call us all clowns like somehow town cant be wrong...
I was unexpectedly busy during deadline and y’all lynched the person I believed wasn’t partners with LnGR.
SHRUG.
who is y'all? I specifically wanted to vote Shadow, and I even posted my doubts, "doubt this movement leads to a wolf Lynch", but it doesn't matter what I want or other wants, it's what we can Lynch, and people weren't around, so I had to compromise for information
also that shade makes me want to vote you more... idk how you have the audacity as a town player to not participate in a lynch and then call us all clowns like somehow town cant be wrong...
I was unexpectedly busy during deadline and y’all lynched the person I believed wasn’t partners with LnGR.
SHRUG.
who is y'all? I specifically wanted to vote Shadow, and I even posted my doubts, "doubt this movement leads to a wolf Lynch", but it doesn't matter what I want or other wants, it's what we can Lynch, and people weren't around, so I had to compromise for information
y’all are the people who actually thought Rhand would flip scum, so you can chill a bit.
also that shade makes me want to vote you more... idk how you have the audacity as a town player to not participate in a lynch and then call us all clowns like somehow town cant be wrong...
I was unexpectedly busy during deadline and y’all lynched the person I believed wasn’t partners with LnGR.
SHRUG.
who is y'all? I specifically wanted to vote Shadow, and I even posted my doubts, "doubt this movement leads to a wolf Lynch", but it doesn't matter what I want or other wants, it's what we can Lynch, and people weren't around, so I had to compromise for information
y’all are the people who actually thought Rhand would flip scum, so you can chill a bit.
I specifically didn't want him to be lynched, stop saying yall
Vaimes: Suspects Rod, but will look at Wisp if Rod flips town.
Wisp: At last indication, thinks it's one of Vaimes/Vez/Rod.
Rod: Will lunch Vaimes or Wisp
Vezok: Suspects Chris
Chris: ...hasn't actually identified who he thinks is scum, but his first post of the Day he said there were good town cases for me, Vez, Wisp, and Rod (mostly because of Will). So....you think Vaimes is scum?
Tubba: Hasn't checked in yet.
Me: I was pretty much at the point where I wanted to lunch Vaimes, but then was nonplussed by Chris's lack of commitment/attack. Meh. I think I still want to lunch Vaimes. Despite some early Shin interactions that I don't think point to scum. Meh. Not happy with where I am, actually.
As for where I stand on Wisp, I think I've decided I'm just being paranoid, and if Wisp wins this off a gamble like that, she and any other wolves who cooked the plan up deserve to win. Plus, I'm pretty sure there's legitimately a roleblocker (or, at least, a scum power role). I was looking at Killjoy's post to see if he referenced daychat in the role pm and realized:
You’re a retired postal worker who spends his days doing crosswords to pass the time. Occasionally you walk to the dog park to feed the pigeons. Life’s kinda boring for you, honestly.
You yearn for the sense of purpose The Job brought you. Maybe you'll take up some dangerous sport, like archery or bowling.
You “retired.” They forced your retirement because some guys drugs went missing on your watch. And you called in sick the next day. That was a coincidence. You wanted revenge.
Night Actions: You may perform the kill for your team. Members with additional abilities cannot also perform the kill unless they are the only ones left alive.
Especially since this is Killjoy's first modding, I don't think he puts the bolded in the role PM if it's an all vanilla team. (Pardon the mild modgaming; it's only a part of my reasoning, not the whole shebang.)
Since we have time, though, I'm doing some rereading, looking at Shadow interactions. No need to rush this.
There's nothing to attack Vaimes on so I am mulling over my town reada
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There's nothing to attack Vaimes on so I am mulling over my town reada
The absence of content is actually a contributing factor to me wanting to lunch him. There's just...not much to any of his posts. And then when he does post reads/content, it's things like 338 (which is suuuuper pinging in retrospect, but would also be suuuuper power-wolfing on Vaimes' part...). But he generally seems pretty worn out, low key, which could, I guess, be real life weighing him down (I've heard that happens sometimes), but could also be because he doesn't enjoy being a wolf, and especially on top of coming on the heels of GoT.
Oh yeah that wasn't a thing in Vaimes favor, but I can't really go "rawr look at this" when if vaimes is scum the team more or less idled to a defeat. Like I have very much played this game in "there's more to the scum team than meets the eye. Be paranoid and don't accept the obvious" when so far the obvious is 2/2 so...
##vote: Vaimes
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Went back to look at which interactions I had found that made it unlikely that Shin was buddies with LnG....wow, not sure what I was remembering, but never mind.
Vaimes,
(Shinichi posts)
• 46 is pretty low-impact/feels a little pockety toward Shadow.
• 47 is...wow. Not only does he say he likes LnG's slot, but saying "slot" feels a bit like distancing.
• 49 tinfoil breaking could stem from TMI (since Tom obviously wasn't scum)?
• 50 addendum question to LnG
• 51 LnG answers question, asks if Shin's vote on Tom is real.
• 66 Fairly abrasive/prickly non-answer to LnG's "is that Tom vote real" question.
• 70 is an oddly worded defense of Riku; assuming Wisp is town, it could be TMI. If it is (and Shin/Vaimes is scum), then encouragement of Silver to attack a town slot without contributing to it, makes me +town Silver.
• 160 he actually responds to LnG's question.
• 163-166 starts off unvoting Tom, then responds to several posts/asks questions of multiple players, but nothing with/to LnG. Highlights Tom and Shadow's vote on LnG and says the wagon looks nice/asks if he can join, but doesn't vote. ++scum
• 168 Tom was also townreading this slot for effort. But Vaimes replaced Shin before N1, and I don't think Vaimes would blink at the possibility of killing someone who was townreading him.
• 180 laughs off the question about his stated desire to be on LnG without actually voting LnG.
Oh...I guess there were a few in the next section of my notes...
Vaimes,
(more Shin posts)
• 279 Shin quotes Silver giving reasons to vote Rhand over LnG and says "I kinda feel like voting Rhand is a cop out, no?" Calls Rhand and Chris town. There'd be very little scum motivation to counter a town read that favored a buddy. So +town to Vaimes (unless, possibly, he's buddies with Rhand...or maybe with Silver).
• 282 I feel like this confusion from Shin is genuine, probably not buddies with Chris?
• 283 Vames replaces in.
• 286 Why did you feel the need to post the player list?
• 290 How has your knowledge of Chris's weaknesses benefited you this game?
• 338 Says he should have a read on Shadow and LnG by now, says LnG pings null rather than scummy, so LnG can live. Hedges on Shadow.
So...yeah, so far I'm fine with lunching Vaimes. Still looking through interactions, though.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Bare minimum he was saying "no one targeted Chris"; slight possibility he was saying "someone targeted Chris, but he wasn't the NK and Wisp claimed roleblock, so whomever targeted Chris is more likely town PR". Given the willingness to claim if enough people wanted him to, I'm leaning toward the former.
Wisp, why did you vote Rhand over Shadow during the fire drill yesterDay?
Vezok - I was thinking "oh, that's rather defensive from Rhand. Let's see where it goes."
I've also never seen Columbo.
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@Cantripmancer
I didn't even remember that Silvercry had claimed
I at the time had not fully realized that Rhand was at L1, and it was getting close to the deadline, so I moved my vote
I made it clear that I wanted Shadow dead multiple times, but it was not going to happen, and now we know why
also I was on shadow up until I moved my vote to Rhand, @Cantrip, so idk what your point is
tubba hasnt given me any reason to think he is a wolf
I just have Cantrip green for now until I can look back at his posts
Rhand (3) - Vaimes (#299), Grapefruit21 (#300), Will-98 (#329)
I think the last scum being in these 3 makes more sense though
To start, some colored votecounts:
Is it possible/probable that Rhand's wagon was all-town? My gut says no, with Vaimes the stronger possibility (in combination with his lack of content this game).
Shadow was actually the 3rd vote on LnG (Silver was 2nd, but unvoted at one point). Wisp replaced in shortly after this, voted Silver (480), then quite quickly made some small reads on LnG and voted there (487), sitting on it the rest of the Day.
Wisp, last game I played with you, your vote moved around a LOT more frequently; why not this game?
After that, there's very little vote movement until LnG self-hammers:
Day 2
Wisp again follows Shadow's vote (nakedly), after unvoting Vaimes a few posts previous.
Chris posts 1288 with pretty strong language against Shadow, and Wisp stops voting Chris to vote with Chris, citing the "rule of 3" that Chris pointed out as the rationale.
And here, Shadow joins the Rod wagon after Wisp. (Btw, this move from Shadow "to consolidate wagons" when it was really putting Rod at 4 with Rhand and Shadow both at 2 makes me think Rod is more likely town.)
Wisp, in 1375 you say you're going "back to Rodemy", but I don't think you'd voted Rod at all up to that point? I went a ways back in your iso and didn't see a vote, 1059 you seemed genuinely surprised by the possibility of a Rod slip (couldn't find it, suspected Vaimes for highlighting it without just giving it to you); 1081 you praised Rod's 1080; 1096 you joked with him and said if you were a wolf and not with Tom or Chris, you'd kill them 100% of the time; 1100 you defended Rod; 1164 you tell him to vote you if he thinks you're a wolf; 1171 you say you should be voting him for how he treated your ability claim, but it's probably just a Rod thing (or maybe you'll tunnel him); 1247 you say Rod senses are tingling; 1266 you respond to him, but still aren't voting/sounding like you intend to vote; 1373 you barn Rod on questioning Silver, and then you vote Rod in 1375. It feels to me like your reasoning for that vote switch is fabricated.
All, as the above probably makes clear, my tinfoil is that Wisp's claim is fake, there IS no roleblocker, and this "near basic" setup is JOAT vs 3x goons. Unfortunately, if there IS a roleblocker, this is probably exactly why they've been blocking Wisp, hoping that town will fall into the trap. I could see a scum team of 3x goons going "hey, town is probably super low power; we could get away with a gambit".
Normally I'd think that Wisp was less likely to be buddies with Shadow after following him onto the LnG wagon and then again onto Chris D2, and mostly the same with Shadow following Wisp onto Rod, but I also know that Shadow is very good at messing with wagon analysis.
So I really need some strong opinions on this, because I feel like Wisp has been EXCEPTIONALLY scummy multiple times throughout the game, but I gave her a pass because of the claim, and I don't want to get snowed by a fake claim like this. And the time for this discussion is toDay when we still have a mislunch left, not toMorrow. So...am I just being paranoid? (Wisp, I welcome your thoughts as well, but, obviously, I'll be taking them with a grain of salt.)
This isn't really a case, per se (probably just another disjointed wall that half the game won't even read--wave if you got this far), just me trying to figure out if I need to spin my wheels seriously considering Wisp, or if I just need to cut the paranoia and give her the locktown read. Because if we don't sort her toDay, I don't think I have the nerve to gamble on her being the last wolf in LYLO.
A few other things I noticed while researching:
1280: Is it TOO brazen, even for Chris, to go "do people think LnG's wagon was all-town" when he himself was on that wagon if he was scum? When hypothetical buddy!Shadow was also on the wagon?
1284: I don't think scum!Grape ever closes off the Silver avenue at this point in the game. Vezok strongly likely town? I mean...that was after Silver's JOAT claim, so I guess it's possible that Grape did this thinking he'd never get him lunched, so may as well townfirm him, but...
Wisp, help me understand your 1286, specifically what you're saying about Rhand?
Chris, in 1288 you said that LnG's question to you in 273 was indicative of you being town. I don't see it as such (which, admittedly, could be me being in a tunnel). Unpack that for me; why does it make you more likely town?
like what do I need to explain? the post is pretty self-explanatory?
because it should be obvious
idk why yall keep calling my claim fabricated
the only world where I am fake is the one where I completely made up the roleblocker claim when there was a chance of there existing a town one, which would 100% of the time out me, or two, I am the roleblocker, and I role blocked myself twice as some stunt (ok)
come on people, I shouldn't have to explain anything to you at this point
meta reading me doesn't work either way
Not going to go into a ton of details with you until/unless it's absolutely necessary, but as to your question about why you would chance faking that there's a roleblocker...if you're a 3rd goon (and the team is just 3 goons), then a town roleblocker becomes HUGELY unlikely (because best case they're a red herring; worst case they actively hurt their team for no good reason), so you'd be pretty safe claiming it.
That has to be a typo, since if you read my iso, I've said the exact opposite elsewhere
HUH.
I just found something.
Ok, now I need everyone to weigh in on Wisp, please (except you, Wisp, I know you'll protest your innocence. ).
I doubt that.
vote last whisper
That he was roleblocked. See post after that
I will continue to look for the last wolf and will for the most try to ignore posts about me, since I'm only going to get frustrated
Sorry whisp.
vote chris
If not him then you.
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Rodslot 100% should’ve been dealt with, and not voting him toDay means you’re committing to him being clear, no takesies backsies. So think about it.
If I’m wrong on Rod I’ll doublecheck LW, since there’s few worlds where scum block him over a JOAT claim imo. That’s leaving yourself open to potential cops, vigs or docs.
Are you scum Vaimes?
Why were you not voting at the end of day 1?
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Gosh that slot looks so scummy just by VCA. The whole exchange with him and shadow on page 5 also looks extremely fake. Shadow is testing the waters seeing if a bus is viable and Chris keeps ignoring him because he knows shadow will retreat in case Chris is getting wagoned or at least can reap the bus credit.
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SHRUG.
Think I replaced in and work got really busy or something.
Chris’ frustration seems legit.
Will lynch Vaimes or Whisp
unvote
Vaimes: Suspects Rod, but will look at Wisp if Rod flips town.
Wisp: At last indication, thinks it's one of Vaimes/Vez/Rod.
Rod: Will lunch Vaimes or Wisp
Vezok: Suspects Chris
Chris: ...hasn't actually identified who he thinks is scum, but his first post of the Day he said there were good town cases for me, Vez, Wisp, and Rod (mostly because of Will). So....you think Vaimes is scum?
Tubba: Hasn't checked in yet.
Me: I was pretty much at the point where I wanted to lunch Vaimes, but then was nonplussed by Chris's lack of commitment/attack. Meh. I think I still want to lunch Vaimes. Despite some early Shin interactions that I don't think point to scum. Meh. Not happy with where I am, actually.
As for where I stand on Wisp, I think I've decided I'm just being paranoid, and if Wisp wins this off a gamble like that, she and any other wolves who cooked the plan up deserve to win. Plus, I'm pretty sure there's legitimately a roleblocker (or, at least, a scum power role). I was looking at Killjoy's post to see if he referenced daychat in the role pm and realized:
Especially since this is Killjoy's first modding, I don't think he puts the bolded in the role PM if it's an all vanilla team. (Pardon the mild modgaming; it's only a part of my reasoning, not the whole shebang.)
Since we have time, though, I'm doing some rereading, looking at Shadow interactions. No need to rush this.
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##vote: Vaimes
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Oh...I guess there were a few in the next section of my notes...
So...yeah, so far I'm fine with lunching Vaimes. Still looking through interactions, though.
Don't reads shins posts like he has any sort of mindset, cause he doesn't
Though I doubt my brother claims grr is towny if they are wolf/wolf like that
What do you think of Vaimes' 338 (easy link up above in my 1541)?
Vaimes (1) - Sir Chris (#1542)
Not Voting: vizokpiraka, Vaimes, Rodemy, Cantripmancer, Tubba Fett, Lastwhisper
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Deadline is Aug 10, 11:59 pm Pacific.