To clarify, it is the reachiest tinfoil based off some behaviour and flavour. I don’t know that there’s a RB or a JK, but it was tickling my mind at the point I was asked for a hot take. I don’t plan to elaborate on it for awhile because A) it could be bat ***** crazy and everyone will laugh at me; and B) if I’m right until I have a better sense of alignment, outing anything more is potentially counterproductive.
@Tubba, kind of weird response to Silver's question (for reference, "Hey, Tubba, could you pick a player, any player at all, and give me like. 1-2 sentences on their entrance and how you felt about it?", post 87). But you did post about Shadow afterwards so... ok.
@Tubba, kind of weird response to Silver's question (for reference, "Hey, Tubba, could you pick a player, any player at all, and give me like. 1-2 sentences on their entrance and how you felt about it?", post 87). But you did post about Shadow afterwards so... ok.
I actually spoke about R2-D2 first but Silver wanted something different/more, look at the exchange again, you’ll get there.
@Chris: why are you so hung up over which of my scum candidates I am voting?
And worse: why are you trying to attract my vote? No matter what your wincon is, wanting someone to vote you is counterproductive.
Also, @LnGrrr what did wisp do last game i am confuzzled?
Pretty much outposted everyone else at a ratio of 10 to 1 on Day one. It made rereading D1 a huge chore.
@Shin, is that a real vote on Tom?
Did it sound like a real vote?
No, but given that you got to endgame in GoT due to everyone saying, "It's Shin, who knows, lol", I figure I might want to pay more attention to you this game.
Care to answer the question?
The answer to the question is no its not a real vote
Think lngrr's wooing of grape is a bit off. No waiting to see what grape showed up to *this* game, just overarching trend data basically. Which is a perfectly good way to woo IF you wait and see a bit but thats not the case here.
This cuts to the heart of it. If I didn't know he wasn't my buddy I'd say it looked like a safe way to reach out to a buddy for some early theater.
Totally in your range of how you play I feel, what do you think of me after last game? You were 100% wrong on your read.
@Silver did you get that eve was an unfortunate autocorrect from RVS? That "fix" slide right past me... Anyway I'm not sure my laziness should be seen as AI.
Shin insisting he ignores RVS jokes while engaging on my Cantrip RVS is a thing. Probably not a relevant one though.
I for one am happy tom is roleplaying. It makes him easier to read.
I mean RVS is like someone said a way to engage the thread and make connections, I question your roleplay thing though. Makes no sense that you read a person better when they arent fully playing the game to their fullest capabilities.
"Errrrrrr, CRASH. Errrrrr CRASH". Shudders dance in the whistling wind outside, slamming with clockwork frequency against the windows. Bright white light pushes through the windows as lightning and thunder smash nearby.
Then, another familiar chime. Ten o'clock. You tally the votes again.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
On a serious note not sure at all what this actually means for your alignment, but seeing as how my original vote was mostly troll there no reason to leave it there.
@Grapefruit21 Why stop a convo you started? Didn't you originally say its easier to read a roleplaying tom?
@rhand Voting GF after what happen last game seems like a cop out and I don't like it whatsoever. I will however indulge your read enough so that you can explain to me how GF is open wolfing?
@tubba I agree with his #107. I have a hard time ever actually taking RVS stuff seriously and atleast until a flip happens i can't really use any of it.
@Rhand #106 is so ewww @tubba @SirChris Why are you discussing this possibility so early?
@Sir Chris after last game I find it hard to trust any of your early reasoning since I was witness to the power of your hardcore busses.
@Rhand #112 Nvm I like him again, for a second I just thought he went full derp
@Chris #115 Explain where Rhand makes you think hes scum?
@Shadow How sure are you that Tubba is playing his town game? How can 1 scum game really convince you otherwise this early on?
I think I am taking Rhand vs Chris in that war. That is partially due to Chris's bombast and overall pomposity.
Also...
Vote Tubba
I liked Rhand's catch on the RB/JK post. That is such a weirdly specific comment to make, early on in a game, and not considering whether it was scum or town before outing feels off.
@Shin, so... was your Tom vote RVS or not?
You honestly think I should have a locked in alignment read on a tinfoil theory? On page 2? Yecch.
Still a little lost I why you even brought up the tinfoil theory in the first place but besides that I dont think any alignment should come from it.
This shin spunk is...refreshing? Like I don’t feel the overwhelming urge to lynch him like normal.
@Shin wrt Tubba, I can’t actually describe that read very well; but he’s doing very off the cuff Tubba things that I associate with his town persona. Wrt Lng, why ask if you can join the wagon instead of just joining it?
I’m not supremely impressed by Lng’s response to pressure, wouldn’t mind some more questions/votes directed his way.
Shin's butt looks super cute in these townpants.
Can definitely vibe that [what little solving he does] was being bottled up last game and is spilling out freely now
To your question, Shin, not in a vacuum but that is one such tactic yes.
Rhand the town you I remember, many moons ago, was full of townie zeal and I don't know I just get the real sense you aren't being genuine so time to poke you for awhile and see if you break against me.
Lngr yeah that's true but you said you'd take rhand over me because of my pep and generally I like to be peppy when possible.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
@Rhand you're right I didn't use that specific language. Dunno why I thought I did. Anyway my point was the general point that I was speaking vaguely but did not mean to leave any doubt about my laziness being AI. Even if I did why would my being unsure of my meta be scum indicative?
@Shin I tried to end it because debating whether I believe Tom is easier to read when gimmicking isn't going to help me find scum. As for why I think he's easier it's because in his effort to communicate through his *whatever the gimmick is* he tends to be more open about his thought processes. Whereas normally he just brushes things off till he feels like explaining.
The mod gives you a 1-shot Desperado that you must use immediately. If you hit a wolf you live, if you hit a villager you die. Who do you shoot and why?
Rhand the town you I remember, many moons ago, was full of townie zeal and I don't know I just get the real sense you aren't being genuine so time to poke you for awhile and see if you break against me.
I have an excellent assortment of exotic pokers if you'd like to borrow something.
One teensy question:
Anyway, the reason I asked Shinichi if he thought I was ready to end the day is because he was representing a mindset where he wasn't going to vote someone unless he was sure he wanted to lunch them, which. is not how I use my vote at all.
The way he answered the question makes me think he hadn't even considered that I wasn't necessarily ready to lunch Ruma, and further more that he didn't actually care whether I was trying to lunch him or not. Which.
Well, it makes me feel like he isn't trying to figure out my alignment. But then neither is anyone else it feels like so. lolme.
Everyone but Rhand and LnG feel really restrained to me. But not relaxed. It's like the tension waiting for an end of game inbounds play. Everyone is ready to pounce and there is a bit of hand fighting but no one is jumping on anything yet.
I think it makes me feel better about Rhand even though his vote was awful. Not sure on LnG yet. Chris is talking like he's broken the tension but he hasn't done anything yet.
@silver: I’m basically never lynching you on a day one when you’re top poster or close to it, so solving you can be done gradually and while letting you post a bunch so there’s lots to look at.
To clarify, it is the reachiest tinfoil based off some behaviour and flavour. I don’t know that there’s a RB or a JK, but it was tickling my mind at the point I was asked for a hot take. I don’t plan to elaborate on it for awhile because A) it could be bat ***** crazy and everyone will laugh at me; and B) if I’m right until I have a better sense of alignment, outing anything more is potentially counterproductive.
I think if you wanted to play it safe it was best not to out any of this information at all -.- thats just my 2 cents.
This shin spunk is...refreshing? Like I don’t feel the overwhelming urge to lynch him like normal.
@Shin wrt Tubba, I can’t actually describe that read very well; but he’s doing very off the cuff Tubba things that I associate with his town persona. Wrt Lng, why ask if you can join the wagon instead of just joining it?
I’m not supremely impressed by Lng’s response to pressure, wouldn’t mind some more questions/votes directed his way.
I have no reason to actually jump on the wagon thats why i asked lol
Shin's butt looks super cute in these townpants.
Can definitely vibe that [what little solving he does] was being bottled up last game and is spilling out freely now
To your question, Shin, not in a vacuum but that is one such tactic yes.
Rhand the town you I remember, many moons ago, was full of townie zeal and I don't know I just get the real sense you aren't being genuine so time to poke you for awhile and see if you break against me.
Lngr yeah that's true but you said you'd take rhand over me because of my pep and generally I like to be peppy when possible.
Combo posts are my speciatly
Ok fair enough, i still find it hard to trust any of your votes that just something that will stay with me forever.
@Rhand you're right I didn't use that specific language. Dunno why I thought I did. Anyway my point was the general point that I was speaking vaguely but did not mean to leave any doubt about my laziness being AI. Even if I did why would my being unsure of my meta be scum indicative?
@Shin I tried to end it because debating whether I believe Tom is easier to read when gimmicking isn't going to help me find scum. As for why I think he's easier it's because in his effort to communicate through his *whatever the gimmick is* he tends to be more open about his thought processes. Whereas normally he just brushes things off till he feels like explaining.
Open where? Hes just making soft reads and butt jokes lol, what if your wrong about tom though? Like you were about me?
The mod gives you a 1-shot Desperado that you must use immediately. If you hit a wolf you live, if you hit a villager you die. Who do you shoot and why?
I'd shoot Chris. Highest reward play since I don't have a strong scum read. If I were to shoot at someone pinging me it would be LnGrrrR but he's barely above random.
Any rotating over to Tom and Shadow yeah I did. Maybe I'm projecting but I'm just getting a real calm before the storm vibe and think you two aren't breaking the hush as it was.
@Shin in that Tom is telling us who he thinks is town. The language is technically obfuscating but the intent of his posts is clear as can be.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Rhand the town you I remember, many moons ago, was full of townie zeal and I don't know I just get the real sense you aren't being genuine so time to poke you for awhile and see if you break against me.
I have an excellent assortment of exotic pokers if you'd like to borrow something.
One teensy question:
What does zeal have to do with being genuine?
Let me expand what I mean: Righteous zeal. Not just regular old Zeal. Hope that helps!
I don't know what to make of Grapefruit being ok with my murder as the most upside when that is also pretty darn downside too. Am I even good as scum anymore? No proof of that! Maybe I am super pro awesome town and pathetic, sad scum now so shooting me is super low EV!
Also Shin I suppose you don't have to trust my votes, just follow along with what I am saying. I do not always use votes as merely a device to give one person crystallized suspicion. They are far more useful than that.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
I pulled a sneaky on ya though because it isn't a vig shot, it's a desperado. If you're a villager he dies in your place.
So either he's a villager with a lot of respect for both your wolf game and your town game or he's a wolf who thinks town!Grape would say that, hmm.
Okay, I have a really bad habit of reading the way people are reading me and the fact that basically no one is trying to puts me in a really weird position of trying to read into other people's interactions with other people alone to get reads. Game feels like a whole big pile of mush right now.
I think I don't want to lunch tom, Chris, Grape, Cantrip, or Shinichi toDay.
That leaves at least two wolves in [Rhand / LnGrrr / Ruma / Will / Tubba / Shadow] or I'm very bad at the game.
I'll try to sift through my thoughts some more and leave a rainbow wall or something a bit later.
I will say I very badly want to read into Chris downplaying his wolf game but I think it's ultimately NAI since he thought the question meant Grape wanted him dead either way.
I will say I very badly want to read into Chris downplaying his wolf game but I think it's ultimately NAI since he thought the question meant Grape wanted him dead either way.
^
It's clearly a misread and I think he reacts to my wanting to normal vig him the same way as either alignment. But also after several hours of reflection Tom is clearly a better shot. Chris might get shot N1 without anything changing from this moment in time. Tom never does and desperadoing him creates a layup shot out of nowhere.
Anyway I agree with your not today grouping but don't really have reads on Tom or Chris. Just not going to push there without a strong reason.
Also I will say my wolf game is supernaturally strong when I am in a state of rest, meaning I have independent energy regardless of game circumstances. I will never be bad scum - I am too on the ball for that - but peak scum Chris takes work which I may not be able to put into the game of mafia for a bit considering my real life circumstances. Or maybe I am sore that I was hospitalized during my last scum game and feel frail.
Town Chris just has boundless energy because scum hunting is literally my fetish.
Also Silver I have no warms or fuzzies for either Rhand or Lng so why not join me on Rhand and let's see what this silly guy who tried to take a weak swipe at me is going to do.
It will be fun.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
^
It's clearly a misread and I think he reacts to my wanting to normal vig him the same way as either alignment. But also after several hours of reflection Tom is clearly a better shot. Chris might get shot N1 without anything changing from this moment in time. Tom never does and desperadoing him creates a layup shot out of nowhere.
Anyway I agree with your not today grouping but don't really have reads on Tom or Chris. Just not going to push there without a strong reason.
From my understanding chris is like the ultimate mis lynch based on how he plays XD.
What is your conception of the game of Mafia as a new player? As in, how do you think it's meant to be played, how do you intend to play, etc.?
I assume you're asking this because either you need info and/or my previous comments were very bad from a playskill perspective
Anyway, that's an interesting question of yours.
Assuming I'm town, my goal is to catch slips in other players' speeches in order to build evidences of possible scum, while not becoming an easy or urgent target. And, not gonna lie, that's hard.
If I were scum, I'd want to induce other players to think that a towny is actually scum by conveniently interpretating their speech so it looks like a slip, while removing the target of my hypothetical allies.
Either way, I need to consider all that when reading the comments of other players. The process is: if I want to verify that a player is scum, I think "if player X is actually NOT scum, he's probably gonna do that particular thing" and see if that resolves. If he doesn't do it, his chance of being scum is reduced. And so on.
For example, if I were scum, I'd try to not answer too much your question because it gives you info. Since I'm not hiding my thought process, my chance of being scum is reduced, although wisely not erased.
I'm not posting a lot, which also indicates, using this thought process, that I'm town. Also, I'm so new at this that my moves must be obvious, so you should not be worried, I believe.
UBRGrixis Shard: Grixis believes in a bold and impassioned search for satisfaction, perfection, and self expression. Those of Grixis colors have an eagerness to break the status quo and remake things in their own image. They disregard tradition and conventional approval, seeing them as unnecessary to achieve their goals, the well behaved rarely make history. Blue wants perfection. Black wants power. Red wants freedom.
I have only been mislynched once in 8 years, and that was in final 3 without being able to say anything after replacing in and lynching 3 scum.
I am very, very hard to kill.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
That's kind of vague. I like silver for thoughtfulness. Already said lng wasnt great for trying to use my pomp against me.
Not a fan of Shin but I was told to expect this.
I like Tom. He makes me smile.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang) 2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer 2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator) 2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia 2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational 2015 - Best Town Player 2015 - Best Mafia Player 2015 - Best Overall Player
Overall I like him. I actually just glanced at his last couple posts and thought he mindset slipped and was about to vote him; but I’m just dumb.
He said “at least two wolves” and I didn’t read at least and thought he was a wolf not counting himself.
But yeah, I think he’s capable of faking his presence, but he will fall off hard if he’s a wolf.
I was vaguely remembering calling him obvious wolf in the ghostbusters spec chat after he reminded me he was in that game, but I do want to iso him there just to make sure I’m not missing anything.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
If so you should know im far too expensive for you
Unlike Captain America, I don’t get that reference
I actually spoke about R2-D2 first but Silver wanted something different/more, look at the exchange again, you’ll get there.
And worse: why are you trying to attract my vote? No matter what your wincon is, wanting someone to vote you is counterproductive.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
The answer to the question is no its not a real vote
How should i knpw?
Totally in your range of how you play I feel, what do you think of me after last game? You were 100% wrong on your read.
I mean RVS is like someone said a way to engage the thread and make connections, I question your roleplay thing though. Makes no sense that you read a person better when they arent fully playing the game to their fullest capabilities.
Then, another familiar chime. Ten o'clock. You tally the votes again.
Votecount 1.2
LnGrrrR (2) - tomsloger (#144), shadowlancerx (#145)
tomsloger (2) - Shinichi (#49), LnGrrrR (#153)
Rhand (1) - Sir Chris (#111)
Cantripmancer (1) - Will-98 (#38)
Rumanshi (1) - Silvercrys3467 (#63)
Shadowlancerx (1) - Rhand (#123)
Not Voting: Cantripmancer, Grapefruit21, Rumanshi, Tubba Fett
Hes cute though i cant keep voting this
Unvote
On a serious note not sure at all what this actually means for your alignment, but seeing as how my original vote was mostly troll there no reason to leave it there.
@Grapefruit21 Why stop a convo you started? Didn't you originally say its easier to read a roleplaying tom?
@rhand Voting GF after what happen last game seems like a cop out and I don't like it whatsoever. I will however indulge your read enough so that you can explain to me how GF is open wolfing?
@tubba I agree with his #107. I have a hard time ever actually taking RVS stuff seriously and atleast until a flip happens i can't really use any of it.
@Rhand #106 is so ewww @tubba @SirChris Why are you discussing this possibility so early?
@Sir Chris after last game I find it hard to trust any of your early reasoning since I was witness to the power of your hardcore busses.
@Rhand #112 Nvm I like him again, for a second I just thought he went full derp
@Chris #115 Explain where Rhand makes you think hes scum?
@Shadow How sure are you that Tubba is playing his town game? How can 1 scum game really convince you otherwise this early on?
@
You should oil yourself up as well, create a nice slip and slide.
Based on last game you seem to hone in on a target exploiting them. Am I right or am I right?
Still a little lost I why you even brought up the tinfoil theory in the first place but besides that I dont think any alignment should come from it.
This LNG bandwagon sounds nice, care if I join?
4th grade bite me
@Shin wrt Tubba, I can’t actually describe that read very well; but he’s doing very off the cuff Tubba things that I associate with his town persona. Wrt Lng, why ask if you can join the wagon instead of just joining it?
I’m not supremely impressed by Lng’s response to pressure, wouldn’t mind some more questions/votes directed his way.
Can definitely vibe that [what little solving he does] was being bottled up last game and is spilling out freely now
Hes invited to my orgy with silver and will tbh
To your question, Shin, not in a vacuum but that is one such tactic yes.
Rhand the town you I remember, many moons ago, was full of townie zeal and I don't know I just get the real sense you aren't being genuine so time to poke you for awhile and see if you break against me.
Lngr yeah that's true but you said you'd take rhand over me because of my pep and generally I like to be peppy when possible.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
What changed on your will read?
@Shin I tried to end it because debating whether I believe Tom is easier to read when gimmicking isn't going to help me find scum. As for why I think he's easier it's because in his effort to communicate through his *whatever the gimmick is* he tends to be more open about his thought processes. Whereas normally he just brushes things off till he feels like explaining.
The mod gives you a 1-shot Desperado that you must use immediately. If you hit a wolf you live, if you hit a villager you die. Who do you shoot and why?
One teensy question:
What does zeal have to do with being genuine?
The way he answered the question makes me think he hadn't even considered that I wasn't necessarily ready to lunch Ruma, and further more that he didn't actually care whether I was trying to lunch him or not. Which.
Well, it makes me feel like he isn't trying to figure out my alignment. But then neither is anyone else it feels like so. lolme.
I think it makes me feel better about Rhand even though his vote was awful. Not sure on LnG yet. Chris is talking like he's broken the tension but he hasn't done anything yet.
There, I’m trying to figure you out.
@silver: I’m basically never lynching you on a day one when you’re top poster or close to it, so solving you can be done gradually and while letting you post a bunch so there’s lots to look at.
I think if you wanted to play it safe it was best not to out any of this information at all -.- thats just my 2 cents.
I have no reason to actually jump on the wagon thats why i asked lol
Also what is a non off tubba thing?
Sounds fun, can i bring some lube?
Combo posts are my speciatly
Ok fair enough, i still find it hard to trust any of your votes that just something that will stay with me forever.
Open where? Hes just making soft reads and butt jokes lol, what if your wrong about tom though? Like you were about me?
How hard are yours?
I'd shoot Chris. Highest reward play since I don't have a strong scum read. If I were to shoot at someone pinging me it would be LnGrrrR but he's barely above random.
Any rotating over to Tom and Shadow yeah I did. Maybe I'm projecting but I'm just getting a real calm before the storm vibe and think you two aren't breaking the hush as it was.
@Shin in that Tom is telling us who he thinks is town. The language is technically obfuscating but the intent of his posts is clear as can be.
Let me expand what I mean: Righteous zeal. Not just regular old Zeal. Hope that helps!
I don't know what to make of Grapefruit being ok with my murder as the most upside when that is also pretty darn downside too. Am I even good as scum anymore? No proof of that! Maybe I am super pro awesome town and pathetic, sad scum now so shooting me is super low EV!
Also Shin I suppose you don't have to trust my votes, just follow along with what I am saying. I do not always use votes as merely a device to give one person crystallized suspicion. They are far more useful than that.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
So either he's a villager with a lot of respect for both your wolf game and your town game or he's a wolf who thinks town!Grape would say that, hmm.
Okay, I have a really bad habit of reading the way people are reading me and the fact that basically no one is trying to puts me in a really weird position of trying to read into other people's interactions with other people alone to get reads. Game feels like a whole big pile of mush right now.
I think I don't want to lunch tom, Chris, Grape, Cantrip, or Shinichi toDay.
That leaves at least two wolves in [Rhand / LnGrrr / Ruma / Will / Tubba / Shadow] or I'm very bad at the game.
I'll try to sift through my thoughts some more and leave a rainbow wall or something a bit later.
^
It's clearly a misread and I think he reacts to my wanting to normal vig him the same way as either alignment. But also after several hours of reflection Tom is clearly a better shot. Chris might get shot N1 without anything changing from this moment in time. Tom never does and desperadoing him creates a layup shot out of nowhere.
Anyway I agree with your not today grouping but don't really have reads on Tom or Chris. Just not going to push there without a strong reason.
Also I will say my wolf game is supernaturally strong when I am in a state of rest, meaning I have independent energy regardless of game circumstances. I will never be bad scum - I am too on the ball for that - but peak scum Chris takes work which I may not be able to put into the game of mafia for a bit considering my real life circumstances. Or maybe I am sore that I was hospitalized during my last scum game and feel frail.
Town Chris just has boundless energy because scum hunting is literally my fetish.
Also Silver I have no warms or fuzzies for either Rhand or Lng so why not join me on Rhand and let's see what this silly guy who tried to take a weak swipe at me is going to do.
It will be fun.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
I feel like there is a sex joke that can be inserted here.
Your reads shouldn't be that hard, I'm just implying that GF read is ridiculous is all.
I thought you had a town read on him? Was i wrong to think that?
From my understanding chris is like the ultimate mis lynch based on how he plays XD.
Also, \unvote for now.
@Silver
I assume you're asking this because either you need info and/or my previous comments were very bad from a playskill perspective
Anyway, that's an interesting question of yours.
Assuming I'm town, my goal is to catch slips in other players' speeches in order to build evidences of possible scum, while not becoming an easy or urgent target. And, not gonna lie, that's hard.
If I were scum, I'd want to induce other players to think that a towny is actually scum by conveniently interpretating their speech so it looks like a slip, while removing the target of my hypothetical allies.
Either way, I need to consider all that when reading the comments of other players. The process is: if I want to verify that a player is scum, I think "if player X is actually NOT scum, he's probably gonna do that particular thing" and see if that resolves. If he doesn't do it, his chance of being scum is reduced. And so on.
For example, if I were scum, I'd try to not answer too much your question because it gives you info. Since I'm not hiding my thought process, my chance of being scum is reduced, although wisely not erased.
I'm not posting a lot, which also indicates, using this thought process, that I'm town. Also, I'm so new at this that my moves must be obvious, so you should not be worried, I believe.
Best MTG colour test ever: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/8905d5/what_kind_of_mage_would_you_be_test_your_colors/
UBR Grixis Shard: Grixis believes in a bold and impassioned search for satisfaction, perfection, and self expression. Those of Grixis colors have an eagerness to break the status quo and remake things in their own image. They disregard tradition and conventional approval, seeing them as unnecessary to achieve their goals, the well behaved rarely make history. Blue wants perfection. Black wants power. Red wants freedom.
I am very, very hard to kill.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Not a fan of Shin but I was told to expect this.
I like Tom. He makes me smile.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Do you like Tom for Tom or something alignment indicative?
@Shadow what do you think of Silver? I'm trying to process his play right now and I've lost track of the ball a bit.
He said “at least two wolves” and I didn’t read at least and thought he was a wolf not counting himself.
But yeah, I think he’s capable of faking his presence, but he will fall off hard if he’s a wolf.
I was vaguely remembering calling him obvious wolf in the ghostbusters spec chat after he reminded me he was in that game, but I do want to iso him there just to make sure I’m not missing anything.