I'm not really sure if Shadow responding vs. not responding is relevant tbh. Could be it'd just only hit if it was properly formatted, so he could disguise it if he wanted.
I plead the fifth because of how mad Caine's will be at me for making him live. Lol.
Ok so.
I'm a double jailor. I wanted to Target Tom for sure. I was torn between Lngrrr and Tom for final scum.
I decided the other Target world be Vaimes. I considered Tom/shin but wanted shin to cop Tom so I had to pick other targets.
I also considered not using it but in Lngrrr world he doesn't follow the plan because he just loses.
I also considered my current targets win/win because if Lngrrr scum, we should win when winds shot him (sorry winds, that would have screwed your win con but I had to choose between mine and yours).
There's for sure someone blocking things. It can't be shin because he copped people on nights where the block happened (including me) but he wasn't always coping the block Target, so he's not a rc/rber combo.
Unless Tom is a gf that appears vanilla, it's not Tom.
My proposal is we Lynch Vaimes in case we are wrong, winds auto leaves when it's just us, I block the other two Stark's and if the have still going we reevaluate from there.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Like jesus dude. Actually using both roleblocks was the /worst/ thing possible to do.
There's one wolf left. Roleblock is the strongest ability in the game with one wolf left, but only if you use exactly one of them.
It either stops the kill and confirms them as a wolf (if you use it on PoE, and not on someone that is publicly said to be the kill target), or the kill happens and they are townfirmed in a final 3.
I have been asked about ability use syntax and what would and would not count.
In general, public use abilities follow the same logic as a vote; if your general meaning is unambiguous, then it counts. If I make a direct mod response to something in thread, it was a mod action and not a whim of my own.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I have been asked about ability use syntax and what would and would not count.
In general, public use abilities follow the same logic as a vote; if your general meaning is unambiguous, then it counts. If I make a direct mod response to something in thread, it was a mod action and not a whim of my own.
Hm.
So both Shin and KJ were legitimately shot at by wolves with a 50/50 shot.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Or kj is scum and either shin doesn't understand whats going on or, like, factional ability to use one before unlocks or something stupid like that...?
Or vaimes fooled both me and winds and blocked neither of kj the unknown unlock or shin the rolecop?
Or kj is scum and either shin doesn't understand whats going on or, like, factional ability to use one before unlocks or something stupid like that...?
Or vaimes fooled both me and winds and blocked neither of kj the unknown unlock or shin the rolecop?
If I weren't me, I'd have no idea how to rank these in terms of likelihood.
If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Or kj is scum and either shin doesn't understand whats going on or, like, factional ability to use one before unlocks or something stupid like that...?
Or vaimes fooled both me and winds and blocked neither of kj the unknown unlock or shin the rolecop?
Either wolves have a factional roleblock, it's Vaimes, or Shinichi went full Shinichi, sums it up, yes.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
hope could I single block him? I can only do two. Of the throne I have nothing.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Probably impossible to know.
Ok so.
I'm a double jailor. I wanted to Target Tom for sure. I was torn between Lngrrr and Tom for final scum.
I decided the other Target world be Vaimes. I considered Tom/shin but wanted shin to cop Tom so I had to pick other targets.
I also considered not using it but in Lngrrr world he doesn't follow the plan because he just loses.
I also considered my current targets win/win because if Lngrrr scum, we should win when winds shot him (sorry winds, that would have screwed your win con but I had to choose between mine and yours).
There's for sure someone blocking things. It can't be shin because he copped people on nights where the block happened (including me) but he wasn't always coping the block Target, so he's not a rc/rber combo.
Unless Tom is a gf that appears vanilla, it's not Tom.
My proposal is we Lynch Vaimes in case we are wrong, winds auto leaves when it's just us, I block the other two Stark's and if the have still going we reevaluate from there.
The rolecop is irrelevant in comparison to there ONLY BEING ONE WOLF LEFT, SO 100% TOWNFIRMING HIM IF A KILL HAPPENED.
You basically just added an extra Day for literally no reason.
There's one wolf left. Roleblock is the strongest ability in the game with one wolf left, but only if you use exactly one of them.
It either stops the kill and confirms them as a wolf (if you use it on PoE, and not on someone that is publicly said to be the kill target), or the kill happens and they are townfirmed in a final 3.
In general, public use abilities follow the same logic as a vote; if your general meaning is unambiguous, then it counts. If I make a direct mod response to something in thread, it was a mod action and not a whim of my own.
Or we No Lynch, you block Shin, and LET ME DIE.
Hm.
So both Shin and KJ were legitimately shot at by wolves with a 50/50 shot.
The whole point was to get rid of TW.
Can't do that with there being another roleblocker floating around potentially.
Not sure how roleblocker/roleblocker crossblocks would resolve, but feels risky.
One of them was after twilight and irrelevant, right?
King gets priority.
So.
Even if the block is a weird factional thing or alternate ability, KJ blocking Shin still works unless he's the last mafia.
I'm... not sure why, from a town perspective, letting wolves kill the neutral is a bad thing.
You STILL risked LnG just blocking and killing me given you didn't target him.
I'm owl head tilt dot giffing at you right now.
I don't see a kill being resolved after Day is mechanically over.
Does king still get priority even after the 50% threshold?
Their ability is no longer unstoppable etc anymore.
Or kj is scum and either shin doesn't understand whats going on or, like, factional ability to use one before unlocks or something stupid like that...?
Or vaimes fooled both me and winds and blocked neither of kj the unknown unlock or shin the rolecop?
Or am I missing something.
I'm so tilted right now.
If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
DID KILLJOY CLAIM TO BE ROLEBLOCKED ON A NIGHT HE WAS KING?
One of them was after hammer. Actions wouldn't register then.
That was the day he mechanically couldn't shoot because he'd killed the previous day.
Either wolves have a factional roleblock, it's Vaimes, or Shinichi went full Shinichi, sums it up, yes.
I'm pretty sure twilight only starts when Shadow announced it. So the third shot would count if Shadow responded to it.
Yes but after less than 50% alive
...have you claimed who you targeted that night?
Because if order of operations tiebreaker still exists you literally can clear those people from being the last wolf/the blocker.
If I wasn't blocked gj would have lived.