@RE considering that you made one of the two pushes with me (LnG) you probably don't need to spend too much time deciding if it could come from town.
In honor of RSJT I kinda want to call that a slip and go ham with it but it's very obviously not one.
Considering my push of him and your push of him were made differently, and that you showed significantly less skepticism that his claim may have not been AI, and all together I barely pushed him and some of my reasoning for being wary of him was different from yours, I don't think us pushing the same person around the same time is very comparable.
Was it not clear that what I meant when I said I'd need to see if your pushes could come from town, I'd be taking how the push was made into account as well?
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I don't understand why you are so against a Lynch on Chad, like even when was I scum I defended him... So the assumption that I'm probably bussing is so weird, and if you think that, Chad is still the better Lynch, in terms of content and analysis over me, like what?
It's a theory I have that hasn't fully ripened yet. Why would I vote Chad over you when it's through you that I've come to suspect him?
I'd be against a Chad lynch for the sole purpose that it wouldn't be informative given how little content he has if he is scum, and if he's town, a total waste when I have stronger suspects.
By that logic, I should be hitting everyone with minimal content over you. Obviously, the number of people in that category alone would suggest there's town there, and town is just as capable of lacking content as scum (generally speaking; may vary depending on the player).
I'd love it if Shinichi would post more, so I could observe how he reacts to your push, as well as provide more content I can analyze, but I gain little from pushing an inactive slot at this time
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So what does my Lynch provide other than again, you have proved to be inadequate at reading me? But sure I'll humor this, let's see how my train grows, if I get lynched, then it helps some alt win cons, since I just confirmed two people in my faction, which I didn't plan to do, but I can be a bit preemptive when I'm irked
So what does my Lynch provide other than again, you have proved to be inadequate at reading me? But sure I'll humor this, let's see how my train grows, if I get lynched, then it helps some alt win cons, since I just confirmed two people in my faction, which I didn't plan to do, but I can be a bit preemptive when I'm irked
Did you miss the part where I am flat out scumreading you? That is reason enough for me to lynch you.
Do I need to tell you why lynching a 3-poster (I think?) at this point during the day, or at least deciding to, isn't going to be very helpful for town?
Not to mention you've completely avoided addressing my points against you?
If I decide to go with lynching you, and you are town, you've had a lot of interactions I can work with. That's the downside, since I think you are scum with a lot of interactions I can work with.
Haven't noticed any factional-firming tbh.
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His lack of posts doesn't make him any less scum as my abundance of posts make me scum, content wise his posts have higher scum!equity and either you are blind or just being ignorant, or you believe because he's some sort of mislynch bait, that he can't be scum
And I'm busy, give me like 10 hours, I need to present a semester long project and then go straight to work, I'm not ignoring anything
@Wisp
Let's start with this.
Why are LnGrrrR and Cantrip scum? What is wrong with their posts specifically?
Have you reevaluated my slot at all? If so, what is your read of me?
Do you think any of the people frequently posting, aka people you can communicate with easily, are scum? And why?
Why should I trust your scumreads when I don't trust you and your reasoning is weak if not nonexistent?
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Let's start with this.
Why are LnGrrrR and Cantrip scum? What is wrong with their posts specifically?
Have you reevaluated my slot at all? If so, what is your read of me?
Do you think any of the people frequently posting, aka people you can communicate with easily, are scum? And why?
Why should I trust your scumreads when I don't trust you and your reasoning is weak if not nonexistent?
thanks for these questions all in one post, though my answer won't come for a while
His lack of posts doesn't make him any less scum as my abundance of posts make me scum, content wise his posts have higher scum!equity and either you are blind or just being ignorant, or you believe because he's some sort of mislynch bait, that he can't be scum
I've never said he can't be scum. I don't disagree that his manner of posting has scum equity. It kind of is just commentary with little direction. But I don't actually have a problem with what he's said. I've liked some of it, in fact.
Thing is, he's been inactive for 2 days now. So, why is it a good idea to spend your time with your vote camped on someone who isn't posting? They aren't going to respond to your push. You have very little way of finding out if you're right or wrong, and if there's one thing scum love doing, it's not being forced to reevaluate due to new content. Either he's gonna post again, or he isn't going to be our problem. Why not spend your time sorting the people who are posting?
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@DV I'm watching where you're going with RE and seeing where it leads. KJ's felt fake and I'll probe there once he's back.
You didn't specifically say "scum" or "gut," but I guess that's how I remembered it. I think it's basically what you were implying though. Not sure why you are questioning me on that though like you don't recall having that read?
Also, I don't like the progression on the LnG situation. I don't get why you are saying you wanted to vote to lynch him toDay despite not thinking he was necessarily scum. And then 467, 469, and 472 feel like damage mitigation for what you know was a bad vote/push. Like, you said he needs to die at some point, so what were you hoping to get out of lynching him toDay that garnered your vote at that time?
Also, y'all are funny. I pointed out that LnGrrrR's claim was a very weird move as scum, before Sir Chris did.
Also Tom said it wasn't necessarily scummy, Last said it wasn't scum, I said essentially the same thing that Chris said that it's too scummy to be scum, all before he said it. Not sure why he is getting sole credit either, but would like to make a note Tubba (and I think Rod? was there someone else?) soloing out Chris for the credit is an interesting interaction. But you throwing it in that post as an aside without any real reason why it matters that you said it first or that he is getting the credit kinda also gives me a, "hey where's my towncred for this!" vibe.
Not sure where I'm at on this Last wagon. Need to read the arguments closer.
Also, I'm super happy for those of you that know each other in real life, but for the sake of the majority of the players in this game (I think?) can we use handles instead of real names? Thanks.
Also, y'all are funny. I pointed out that LnGrrrR's claim was a very weird move as scum, before Sir Chris did.
Also Tom said it wasn't necessarily scummy, Last said it wasn't scum, I said essentially the same thing that Chris said that it's too scummy to be scum, all before he said it. Not sure why he is getting sole credit either, but would like to make a note Tubba (and I think Rod? was there someone else?) soloing out Chris for the credit is an interesting interaction. But you throwing it in that post as an aside without any real reason why it matters that you said it first or that he is getting the credit kinda also gives me a, "hey where's my towncred for this!" vibe.
Well, that wasn't my intention. It's just annoying when that kind of thing happens. I had to point it out.
So while there were others who said it, I was actually the first one to comment on it with that point of view :I
I don't town credit for it. Just credit would do.
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If I try to maintain my normal style of wallposting in a game this size it's going to kill me (and no one really likes my walls, anyway), so let's try this...
Grape, on the one hand, I like your 90. But on the other hand, after that you post quite a bit of fluff until 178, which I like for the initial defusing attempt, but don't like for you saying Rhand and Vaimes being town is a "fact". But then I like the final question, which is very much a defusing attempt and more likely imo to come from town than scum. I think your treatment of the LnG factionless claim was scummy, and several of your posts have seemed cautious/crafted. Why are you studiously avoiding commenting on Wisp?
Wisp, I am sad that you are angry, because I want everyone to have fun, and unless you are one of those rare people who have a lot of fun when you're torqued, you don't sound like you're having much fun. You making a separate rainbow category for me gives me all the warm fuzzies and makes me want to jump in your pocket. I don't really know what to make of the wagon that's developed on you. I started off feeling like it wasn't progressing organically, but then you kept responding with just gifs and I thought maybe the votes were justified. 496/497 felt like town!you realizing that a serious wagon had formed and you should be doing something about it, but then when DV responded to your "serious" question with a gif, you got defeatist, which I think I see come from scum a little more often than town. I need more input, I suppose.
Highroller, you started off the game actually making a lot of sense, which makes me wonder if I should be calling for your lynch. But I won't give in to that illogical perversity. I really like that you thought about the possibility of a scum achieving their altwin and then outting their whole team to end the game, because I was similarly wondering what was in place to prevent that (other than the general opinion that it would be poor sportsmanship). I also wondered if Shadow might have created a game where, regardless of which alignment won, every player could win via the alt wincons. Unfortunately, the only way to explore that would be to essentially mass claim everything and then see if that end goal is possible, which would be a horrible disservice to Shadow. For now, I'd just like to know: Why are you scumreading Wisp?
DV, Your initial claim briefly reminded me of your insanity in Overwatch, but you're not really digging for personal info, so it could be fine. Something feels off, though, and I'm not sure what it is. It might just be that you seem to be doing a really good job of staying calm (well, you were before recent interactions with Wisp); that could, of course, just be you on probation, and I like it a lot, so you've got that going for you. Your responses during and after the LnG debacle felt fake to me. Especially 423. I do like your observation on KA in 456. Your unvote of Wisp in 561 but specifying that you won't discuss it feels like you're either using out of game info/angleshooting to clear him or you're scum trying to derail the wagon on your buddy/shopping for town pants if Wisp gets lynched and flips town, but I can think of at least one other possibility, so...maybe it's ok. If you really were highly suspecting Grape and Wisp, and now you've unvoted Wisp, why not revote Grape?
LnG, I feel like your frustration regarding the suspicion on your claim was genuine, and having seen some of your scum play in DitF, I'm pretty certain you're not scum here. It also feels like the absolutely dumbest move you could make as a 3rd party anti-town (or any 3rd party, really), and I don't think you're dumb, so I feel good saying you're town.
RE, you've posted a lot of words, but somehow haven't really made an impression on me one way or the other, which I find odd. I probably need to reread you, but could you just do something strongly alignment indicative so I don't have to? tia
1053, why do you think Killjoy, Tom, and Wisp are townreading you?
Additionally, I've seen nothing from Tom, Vaimes, or Sir Chris that makes me think they're scum, but that's a pretty popular perspective right now, so I'm just saying this to be on record that I think they're more likely town than scum. I remember several posts where I mindmelded with Killjoy, which is a good thing. Several of Kami's posts have thrown me for a loop, but I liked that he's actually scrutinizing Chris; doesn't feel like a confrontation scum would start (unless he's scum with Chris, I suppose). Rhand feels like he's phoning it in, but that could just be cruise mode (heh). Everyone else hasn't really made a strong impression.
The weekend is coming, which means I will not be more likely to participate, but I will try my best to do my best.
(Don't like mobile posting.
Also, I'd like further elaboration on why 1053 may be noob town and not noob scum. What they've said so far - if I haven't missed or forgotten anything - hasn't struck me as AI.
It just struck me that this game could be a multiball. It could totally be a multiball, no?
1053 made this post about figuring how to read people without facial expressions or whatever that struck me as super genuine and made me sure hes at least trying to read people itg.
This game is already multiball with the alternate wincons would be pretty surprised if there was multiple scumteams too
Tom's literally just trying to lynch members of his faction. I'm already over it.
@Vaimes Tough.
well, I've got two factions and based on wincons one is more likely to contain scum than the other imo so yes i think theres very likely 1 scum in 3 names but also I'm not super tryna lynch anyone yet
Guess last already revealed that's the faction with him and shin. Kjs the 4th. Don't find any of them townie aorn would maybe kill any of them
Tom's literally just trying to lynch members of his faction. I'm already over it.
@Vaimes Tough.
well, I've got two factions and based on wincons one is more likely to contain scum than the other imo so yes i think theres very likely 1 scum in 3 names but also I'm not super tryna lynch anyone yet
Guess last already revealed that's the faction with him and shin. Kjs the 4th. Don't find any of them townie aorn would maybe kill any of them
@DV: I don't understand either your jump off Last or your jump onto Tom. For the former: you must know that "I won't discuss this further" automatically draws more attention. For the latter: why do you think tom is going after his faction? And if he is, why would that be a scum act?
@DV: I don't understand either your jump off Last or your jump onto Tom. For the former: you must know that "I won't discuss this further" automatically draws more attention. For the latter: why do you think tom is going after his faction? And if he is, why would that be a scum act?
To he latter, it felt anti-town to me.
IDK its frustration because his hunting doesn't feel pure it feels agenda based.
To the first point sure, but I'm not talking about it yet.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm slimming until I can sit down and respond to things properly. I'll look up the answer later, I did somewhat ISO Tom to see if he's said. Couldn't find it there.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Your initial claim briefly reminded me of your insanity in Overwatch, but you're not really digging for personal info, so it could be fine
Also this was bugging me.
What do you mean by this?
In the same sentence I said that, I also said "This claim is as serious as my vote". It was clearly a joke. At least to me it was. I made that post as number 15 in the game. My next post which was post 45 I followed up to say this was not a real claim.
I'm slimming until I can sit down and respond to things properly. I'll look up the answer later, I did somewhat ISO Tom to see if he's said. Couldn't find it there.
Its 575 then... and he makes mention to Last's post there. Which is 542.
I'm slimming until I can sit down and respond to things properly. I'll look up the answer later, I did somewhat ISO Tom to see if he's said. Couldn't find it there.
Its 575 then... and he makes mention to Last's post there. Which is 542.
Thanks. That's helpful.
Also slightly annoying.
Wisp: I don't recall him saying that he thought there was two wolves in our faction. I recall him saying one. Obviously, he thinks that's Shin. Do you think tom is the scum in our faction?
RE: The townlean on Rod is mostly for his entrance. I liked it. If he's not town, that should get stale sometime before the 1000 post mark.
With regards to 1053, I could easily say I'm sheeping tom because tom is probably right there. I would also add that, if we assume he really is new to forum mafia, then he most likely won't be able to hide his scumminess for too much longer. Thus is the nature of noob mafia players. Most of them break down relatively quickly.
Hunger: What do you think of Grape forgetting his read on me? Also, if you think I'm being fake, why aren't you actively interacting with me instead of just making a passive statement about how fake you think I am?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@DV: I don't understand either your jump off Last or your jump onto Tom. For the former: you must know that "I won't discuss this further" automatically draws more attention. For the latter: why do you think tom is going after his faction? And if he is, why would that be a scum act?
To he latter, it felt anti-town to me.
IDK its frustration because his hunting doesn't feel pure it feels agenda based.
But where did you see Tom going after them? He's named both scum, but not inorganically, from what I can see (that is, it feels like he's scumhunting to me, not seeking reasons to scumread his factionbuddies). As for my confusion, I didn't catch that Last was outing part of his faction in 542, so your 568 gave me whiplash after you and Tom had been voting Wisp together. Did something change between 561/562 (unvoting Wisp) and 568 that caused you to vote Tom?
Your initial claim briefly reminded me of your insanity in Overwatch, but you're not really digging for personal info, so it could be fine
Also this was bugging me.
What do you mean by this?
In the same sentence I said that, I also said "This claim is as serious as my vote". It was clearly a joke. At least to me it was. I made that post as number 15 in the game. My next post which was post 45 I followed up to say this was not a real claim.
Its not the same thing at all.
If you couldn't tell by 20, I didn't get that it was a joke. I was pretty focused on the claim, though, so I figured you were saying "my claim and my vote are both really serious". Overwatch was why I posted 20. You waltzed into that game and commandeered the thread, got exactly what you needed to meet your wincon, then peaced out leaving me feeling sideswiped. I wasn't about to let you do that again. But like I said, this isn't the same, as you've made it obvious that you were kidding, and you're not fishing for info like you did then.
So what I've read so far is my faction has been revealed thanks to my brother, not sure why he would do that when its possible another factions win con could be trying to get ours killed -.-
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Was it not clear that what I meant when I said I'd need to see if your pushes could come from town, I'd be taking how the push was made into account as well?
Lastwhisper (4): tomsloger, D_V, Highroller, RE1031
Grapefruit21 (3): KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, LnGrrrR
Shinichi (2): Killjoy, Lastwhisper
LnGrrrR (1): Rhand
Highroller (1): Rodemy
Killjoy (1): Sir Chris
Not Voting (7): 1053nm, Shinichi, Hunger, Tubba Fett, Coballt, Cantripmancer, Grapefruit21
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I'd be against a Chad lynch for the sole purpose that it wouldn't be informative given how little content he has if he is scum, and if he's town, a total waste when I have stronger suspects.
By that logic, I should be hitting everyone with minimal content over you. Obviously, the number of people in that category alone would suggest there's town there, and town is just as capable of lacking content as scum (generally speaking; may vary depending on the player).
I'd love it if Shinichi would post more, so I could observe how he reacts to your push, as well as provide more content I can analyze, but I gain little from pushing an inactive slot at this time
Do I need to tell you why lynching a 3-poster (I think?) at this point during the day, or at least deciding to, isn't going to be very helpful for town?
Not to mention you've completely avoided addressing my points against you?
If I decide to go with lynching you, and you are town, you've had a lot of interactions I can work with. That's the downside, since I think you are scum with a lot of interactions I can work with.
Haven't noticed any factional-firming tbh.
And I'm busy, give me like 10 hours, I need to present a semester long project and then go straight to work, I'm not ignoring anything
Last is not scum.
I will not discuss this any further.
@Lngr... Literally my second post.
Let's start with this.
Why are LnGrrrR and Cantrip scum? What is wrong with their posts specifically?
Have you reevaluated my slot at all? If so, what is your read of me?
Do you think any of the people frequently posting, aka people you can communicate with easily, are scum? And why?
Why should I trust your scumreads when I don't trust you and your reasoning is weak if not nonexistent?
Thing is, he's been inactive for 2 days now. So, why is it a good idea to spend your time with your vote camped on someone who isn't posting? They aren't going to respond to your push. You have very little way of finding out if you're right or wrong, and if there's one thing scum love doing, it's not being forced to reevaluate due to new content. Either he's gonna post again, or he isn't going to be our problem. Why not spend your time sorting the people who are posting?
You didn't specifically say "scum" or "gut," but I guess that's how I remembered it. I think it's basically what you were implying though. Not sure why you are questioning me on that though like you don't recall having that read?
Also, I don't like the progression on the LnG situation. I don't get why you are saying you wanted to vote to lynch him toDay despite not thinking he was necessarily scum. And then 467, 469, and 472 feel like damage mitigation for what you know was a bad vote/push. Like, you said he needs to die at some point, so what were you hoping to get out of lynching him toDay that garnered your vote at that time?
Also Tom said it wasn't necessarily scummy, Last said it wasn't scum, I said essentially the same thing that Chris said that it's too scummy to be scum, all before he said it. Not sure why he is getting sole credit either, but would like to make a note Tubba (and I think Rod? was there someone else?) soloing out Chris for the credit is an interesting interaction. But you throwing it in that post as an aside without any real reason why it matters that you said it first or that he is getting the credit kinda also gives me a, "hey where's my towncred for this!" vibe.
Not sure where I'm at on this Last wagon. Need to read the arguments closer.
Also, I'm super happy for those of you that know each other in real life, but for the sake of the majority of the players in this game (I think?) can we use handles instead of real names? Thanks.
Tom's literally just trying to lynch members of his faction. I'm already over it.
@Vaimes Tough.
So while there were others who said it, I was actually the first one to comment on it with that point of view :I
I don't town credit for it. Just credit would do.
If I try to maintain my normal style of wallposting in a game this size it's going to kill me (and no one really likes my walls, anyway), so let's try this...
Grape, on the one hand, I like your 90. But on the other hand, after that you post quite a bit of fluff until 178, which I like for the initial defusing attempt, but don't like for you saying Rhand and Vaimes being town is a "fact". But then I like the final question, which is very much a defusing attempt and more likely imo to come from town than scum. I think your treatment of the LnG factionless claim was scummy, and several of your posts have seemed cautious/crafted. Why are you studiously avoiding commenting on Wisp?
Wisp, I am sad that you are angry, because I want everyone to have fun, and unless you are one of those rare people who have a lot of fun when you're torqued, you don't sound like you're having much fun. You making a separate rainbow category for me gives me all the warm fuzzies and makes me want to jump in your pocket. I don't really know what to make of the wagon that's developed on you. I started off feeling like it wasn't progressing organically, but then you kept responding with just gifs and I thought maybe the votes were justified. 496/497 felt like town!you realizing that a serious wagon had formed and you should be doing something about it, but then when DV responded to your "serious" question with a gif, you got defeatist, which I think I see come from scum a little more often than town. I need more input, I suppose.
Highroller, you started off the game actually making a lot of sense, which makes me wonder if I should be calling for your lynch. But I won't give in to that illogical perversity. I really like that you thought about the possibility of a scum achieving their altwin and then outting their whole team to end the game, because I was similarly wondering what was in place to prevent that (other than the general opinion that it would be poor sportsmanship). I also wondered if Shadow might have created a game where, regardless of which alignment won, every player could win via the alt wincons. Unfortunately, the only way to explore that would be to essentially mass claim everything and then see if that end goal is possible, which would be a horrible disservice to Shadow. For now, I'd just like to know: Why are you scumreading Wisp?
DV, Your initial claim briefly reminded me of your insanity in Overwatch, but you're not really digging for personal info, so it could be fine. Something feels off, though, and I'm not sure what it is. It might just be that you seem to be doing a really good job of staying calm (well, you were before recent interactions with Wisp); that could, of course, just be you on probation, and I like it a lot, so you've got that going for you. Your responses during and after the LnG debacle felt fake to me. Especially 423. I do like your observation on KA in 456. Your unvote of Wisp in 561 but specifying that you won't discuss it feels like you're either using out of game info/angleshooting to clear him or you're scum trying to derail the wagon on your buddy/shopping for town pants if Wisp gets lynched and flips town, but I can think of at least one other possibility, so...maybe it's ok. If you really were highly suspecting Grape and Wisp, and now you've unvoted Wisp, why not revote Grape?
LnG, I feel like your frustration regarding the suspicion on your claim was genuine, and having seen some of your scum play in DitF, I'm pretty certain you're not scum here. It also feels like the absolutely dumbest move you could make as a 3rd party anti-town (or any 3rd party, really), and I don't think you're dumb, so I feel good saying you're town.
RE, you've posted a lot of words, but somehow haven't really made an impression on me one way or the other, which I find odd. I probably need to reread you, but could you just do something strongly alignment indicative so I don't have to? tia
1053, why do you think Killjoy, Tom, and Wisp are townreading you?
Additionally, I've seen nothing from Tom, Vaimes, or Sir Chris that makes me think they're scum, but that's a pretty popular perspective right now, so I'm just saying this to be on record that I think they're more likely town than scum. I remember several posts where I mindmelded with Killjoy, which is a good thing. Several of Kami's posts have thrown me for a loop, but I liked that he's actually scrutinizing Chris; doesn't feel like a confrontation scum would start (unless he's scum with Chris, I suppose). Rhand feels like he's phoning it in, but that could just be cruise mode (heh). Everyone else hasn't really made a strong impression.
The weekend is coming, which means I will not be more likely to participate, but I will try my best to do my best.
This game is already multiball with the alternate wincons would be pretty surprised if there was multiple scumteams too
Guess last already revealed that's the faction with him and shin. Kjs the 4th. Don't find any of them townie aorn would maybe kill any of them
UGHHH
Fine
Unvote
Not sure if that is effected by his alignment yet
Vote Grape
To he latter, it felt anti-town to me.
IDK its frustration because his hunting doesn't feel pure it feels agenda based.
To the first point sure, but I'm not talking about it yet.
Not day one.
I'm confused about this. I was just messing with Wisp and wasn't upset at all.
Do ya'll think that's me being upset? I'm just having fun there.
I'd be nice if someone like Cobalt would post since they have been lurking so that I can see how much of an agenda that really is.
Secret multiball is the best.
You want neutrals but don't want multiball?
What's wrong with you?
We need multiple ball games sometime think about how much crazy fun it would be.
There were 5 teams of [2 scum + sympathizer] and 18 town iirc
So I'm assuming you equate the defeatist attitude towards being scum? Interesting
If you can't figure this out. I can't help you.
You and Cantrip asked this question. Its like you are not reading the game.
Also this was bugging me.
What do you mean by this?
In the same sentence I said that, I also said "This claim is as serious as my vote". It was clearly a joke. At least to me it was. I made that post as number 15 in the game. My next post which was post 45 I followed up to say this was not a real claim.
Its not the same thing at all.
Its 575 then... and he makes mention to Last's post there. Which is 542.
Also slightly annoying.
Wisp: I don't recall him saying that he thought there was two wolves in our faction. I recall him saying one. Obviously, he thinks that's Shin. Do you think tom is the scum in our faction?
RE: The townlean on Rod is mostly for his entrance. I liked it. If he's not town, that should get stale sometime before the 1000 post mark.
With regards to 1053, I could easily say I'm sheeping tom because tom is probably right there. I would also add that, if we assume he really is new to forum mafia, then he most likely won't be able to hide his scumminess for too much longer. Thus is the nature of noob mafia players. Most of them break down relatively quickly.
Hunger: What do you think of Grape forgetting his read on me? Also, if you think I'm being fake, why aren't you actively interacting with me instead of just making a passive statement about how fake you think I am?
Grape: What do you think of Hunger right now?
But where did you see Tom going after them? He's named both scum, but not inorganically, from what I can see (that is, it feels like he's scumhunting to me, not seeking reasons to scumread his factionbuddies). As for my confusion, I didn't catch that Last was outing part of his faction in 542, so your 568 gave me whiplash after you and Tom had been voting Wisp together. Did something change between 561/562 (unvoting Wisp) and 568 that caused you to vote Tom?
Yes, but Wisp (afaict) wasn't having fun, and I felt like you were purposefully poking the bear with little good reason.
Uh...yeah, like I said when I made the comment: I believe I've seen that come from scum more often than from town. Why do you find it "interesting"?
If you couldn't tell by 20, I didn't get that it was a joke. I was pretty focused on the claim, though, so I figured you were saying "my claim and my vote are both really serious". Overwatch was why I posted 20. You waltzed into that game and commandeered the thread, got exactly what you needed to meet your wincon, then peaced out leaving me feeling sideswiped. I wasn't about to let you do that again. But like I said, this isn't the same, as you've made it obvious that you were kidding, and you're not fishing for info like you did then.
Hottake: Coballt is frozen.
Vaimes
LnGrrrR
RE1031
D_V
Highroller
Lastwhisper
Sir Chris
KamikazeArchon
[People]
Shinichi
Coballt
Grapefruit21
Rhand
Hunger
Tubba Fett
Rodemy
1053nm
Killjoy
tomsloger
(This is just me leaving a list of who I need to sort, for convenience.)
Frustration increased as I thought about it more.
Then it dissipated once Tom posted.