If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
hope could I single block him? I can only do two. Of the throne I have nothing.
I'm saying you 100% should not have been on the throne that night. Having a single roleblock was a lot more powerful than having two, because of the way it hard narrows the game down.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
hope could I single block him? I can only do two. Of the throne I have nothing.
I'm saying you 100% should not have been on the throne that night. Having a single roleblock was a lot more powerful than having two, because of the way it hard narrows the game down.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If you weren't the king, you could have single blocked Shinichi and 100% locked the game. Or single blocked Tom if you wanted info on him that bad. It'd have 100% confirmed or scumfirmed him.
hope could I single block him? I can only do two. Of the throne I have nothing.
I'm saying you 100% should not have been on the throne that night. Having a single roleblock was a lot more powerful than having two, because of the way it hard narrows the game down.
Who has the single block? I don't.
The scum does though.
Heh.
At least you stayed consistent.
Was trying to pressure you into slipping and just going 'oh you're right ****' or something.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
An additional question I was asked, what happens if two conflicting abilities target each other and who has priority?
If two players each possess an ability that would stop another players action, and they target each other, specific to this game, the first check made is if one is in control of the iron throne. While with less than 50% starting players, that person is not immune to negative role effects anymore, they take priority in such a conflict.
Who is more likely to be a wolf here, Shin + Tom combined, or KJ?
KJ did get shot at twice at lylo with an active shot available, admittedly.
KJ over anything involving tom by a small mile.
But I'll be honest, the game makes no sense to me with what everyone is claiming.
You misunderstand.
Is the combined wolf equity of Tom and Shinichi (3% vs. 60%) type thing larger than the wolf equity of KJ.
I'm not saying a team of Tom and Shinichi.
Don't think the shot is that big of a clear, given he's still here to say that. Go big or go home type of plays.
Put into % odds each of the remaining players being the final wolf?
KJ>Shin>>>>>>>tom
I have no idea for numbers. 50 48 2?
I'd be more confident KJ was scum if I was confident in Shin's results, so. They're kinda close. And whether or not a factional roleblock is a thing, since it seems there's a non-zero chance it is.
I'm saying you 100% should not have been on the throne that night. Having a single roleblock was a lot more powerful than having two, because of the way it hard narrows the game down.
But if xy couldn't shoot that makes that irrelevant.
Help.
The scum does though.
But I can see myself dying toDay because KILLJOY randomly decided to prolong my suffering.
lolstarks
We Lynch Vaimes, winds leaves. I block shin Tom.
If it's one of them we f3. Does anyone find something wrong there?
I'm mostly just annoyed that this entire Day was completely pointless.
Heh.
At least you stayed consistent.
Was trying to pressure you into slipping and just going 'oh you're right ****' or something.
I mean from my personal win condition standpoint I see nothing wrong there.
From town winning standpoint, this kind of goes tits up if uh.
You are a wolf, and just shoot one of them and win.
Nice try I suppose.
If he's a wolf, I get to win, but so do wolves.
If you think Vaimes/Shin/Tom have more combined wolf equity than KJ, then it's a good plan.
Yes, yes, but we don't know that.
So basically it means we have to decide today if we are ever lynching you this game or not, right?
If the answer is 'we always lynch some combination of Vaimes/Shin/Tom over KJ', then Vaimes is the correct lynch, with us all +king'ing KJ.
Knowing I'm not the wolf helps.
He's lock clear, I read his entire 450 post iso and will die on that hill.
I'm not town, but that's the hill I die on even if we lynch Vaimes.
If we lynch Vaimes and get to a F3 with KJ/Tom/Shin, promise me you lynch Shin over Tom, deal?
Dont we just no lynch>kj jails me and shin>winds shoots vaimes?
Why would we not just lynch Vaimes and avoid any potential night action ****ery then with my shot getting stopped or redirected or something?
Yeah, it's happened in games before.
Proph has talked about finding it elegant in The Hobbit, in particular, and he reviewed this game, so...
What do you think?
Who is more likely to be a wolf here, Shin + Tom combined, or KJ?
KJ did get shot at twice at lylo with an active shot available, admittedly.
If two players each possess an ability that would stop another players action, and they target each other, specific to this game, the first check made is if one is in control of the iron throne. While with less than 50% starting players, that person is not immune to negative role effects anymore, they take priority in such a conflict.
But I'll be honest, the game makes no sense to me with what everyone is claiming.
Don't think the shot is that big of a clear, given he's still here to say that. Go big or go home type of plays.
For exactly this reason...
This is a really abstract question that I'm not 100% sure how to respond to, sorry. Try other words?
Yeah, well.
They shot Shinichi once on D1 when he was a wagon.
And shot KJ twice, at endgame, once when there was a lylo message.
Put into % odds each of the remaining players being the final wolf?
Feel like this is kind of an endless wine scenario and not v productive.
No one was roleblocked last night, right?
I have no idea for numbers. 50 48 2?
I'd be more confident KJ was scum if I was confident in Shin's results, so. They're kinda close. And whether or not a factional roleblock is a thing, since it seems there's a non-zero chance it is.
I think his other target was tom.
Something feels like it's missing.
I'm trying to figure out if this confirms anything.
We already went over this.