I can answer one of your questions though, from my personal experience with HR, this would be the first game ive seen him play so aggressive, since in his previous game, he was rather quiet and town
Whaaaaaat.
That was not my impression of his playstyle at all. He tunneled Rodemy very hard in Ghostbusters. He tunneled Kami very hard in Death in the Family.
I would say he does seem a bit more aggressive than usual, but an already-aggressive player playing a bit more aggressively isn't a scumtell IMO.
"Quiet and town" - I would never use those words to describe HR, the first one at least. Dude, you died before he subbed in, no?
did he? maybe I missed a decent amount of his later post? I read a lot of that game while I was dead with GJ
@RE - Why are you on Cantrip? I liked you both for town before, but it strikes me as odd that you are off on your own this late in the Day?
Should probably respond to this as well - I don't think Cantrip doesn't have nice-sounding posts. I just think that's strictly NAI for him, and if anything, the questions in his last post didn't strike me as solvy, but shallow (he basically asked two people for their top reads but in an elaborate manner). When players ask questions, generally there should be some direction to it all. I haven't gotten that sense from Cantrip. It is possible that it's due to frequent absences unrelated to the game that his posts are coming off to me as disconnected, and done for show, but I don't townread that, and it doesn't explain the vague and not-very-helpful-imo questions he's been asking.
Maybe I jumped the gun? I'd like to see it all tie together though.
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ive been sitting here refreshing... waiting for anything
RE unvoting was just bizzare.
Yeah, we might get a claim from Grape. But there just isn't enough time I want to scream, we've had two weeks and we are basically at the 11th hour. I don't see us CFDing on to anyone else.
ive been sitting here refreshing... waiting for anything
RE unvoting was just bizzare.
Yeah, we might get a claim from Grape. But there just isn't enough time I want to scream, we've had two weeks and we are basically at the 11th hour. I don't see us CFDing on to anyone else.
If Grape is scum, I hate Tubba's quick pop in. If town, still not a fan but not as bad.
This Day has been exhausted, and I feel like this game is going to take forever. Someone end D1 already.
shadow usually lets Twilight linger forEVER, so people can still say their piece if they really want to get something off their chest before Night. Otherwise, choo choo.
ive been sitting here refreshing... waiting for anything
RE unvoting was just bizzare.
Yeah, we might get a claim from Grape. But there just isn't enough time I want to scream, we've had two weeks and we are basically at the 11th hour. I don't see us CFDing on to anyone else.
Unvote at K-1 is so common that I can see it being reflex. But I am going to be incredibly annoyed if it ends up costing us an execution.
This Day has been exhausted, and I feel like this game is going to take forever. Someone end D1 already.
shadow usually lets Twilight linger forEVER, so people can still say their piece if they really want to get something off their chest before Night. Otherwise, choo choo.
ive been sitting here refreshing... waiting for anything
RE unvoting was just bizzare.
Yeah, we might get a claim from Grape. But there just isn't enough time I want to scream, we've had two weeks and we are basically at the 11th hour. I don't see us CFDing on to anyone else.
I mean, there are just some roles that aren't worth lynching for the sake of needing a lynch on someone who's scummy. Literally said it in my post. Better safe than sorry. I'll revote if he doesn't claim or his claim is bad. I'm not going anywhere.
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This Day has been exhausted, and I feel like this game is going to take forever. Someone end D1 already.
shadow usually lets Twilight linger forEVER, so people can still say their piece if they really want to get something off their chest before Night. Otherwise, choo choo.
Day one every MTGS game ever.
I have this idea for a tapering threshold mechanic. Something like "every 48 hours the kill threshold drops by one." You could potentially even do away with fixed Day phases entirely. Balancing it would require trial and error - on the one hand it helps scum if the town is particularly disorganized since potentially a small scumteam can decide the kill late in a Day, on the other hand it helps town because it eliminates the possibility of no-kill Days and reduces the chance of the game dragging out.
have you guys actually gotten no-lynch day 1's before?
Silence of the Lambs. It would have hit scum.
I had 2 essays (8 and 10 pages) to finish the night before, so I slept really late and woke up past phase change and couldn't vote, but my vote wouldn't have made a difference anyway. (Scum won that game.)
I'll wait another 30 minutes before voting. Want to take a nap.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Claim is vaguely town if true. Guess it doesnt matter now but grape is right it doesnt move needle much varys flavor can go literally any direction imo
KJ feels like scum here but that is 90% gut. Same with KA.
Don't trust LnGrrrR.
tell me about those latter 2. They both feel town to me.
Kj... sure
LnG is not scum but his win con being redacted feels very worrisome. And there will be anti-town groups other than scum in this game.
KA just had wolfy pop ins. Literally nothing but opportunitistic posts about what was the subject do journalists. Never brought anything fresh to the table.
KJ feels like scum here but that is 90% gut. Same with KA.
Don't trust LnGrrrR.
tell me about those latter 2. They both feel town to me.
Kj... sure
LnG is not scum but his win con being redacted feels very worrisome. And there will be anti-town groups other than scum in this game.
KA just had wolfy pop ins. Literally nothing but opportunitistic posts about what was the subject do journalists. Never brought anything fresh to the table.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
My apologies wisp. Fine instead of hammering your insistence on not moving.
off what? that claim? lmao
anyways I will talk to KJ in my chat tonight, and get something real out of him
and hopefully my brother
I think im going to ignore most if not all of the things Tom has to say, I want him to get shot by a vigi at this point
Maybe I jumped the gun? I'd like to see it all tie together though.
RE unvoting was just bizzare.
Yeah, we might get a claim from Grape. But there just isn't enough time I want to scream, we've had two weeks and we are basically at the 11th hour. I don't see us CFDing on to anyone else.
@Hunger, yes town!HR can be antognistic. See Secret Agent mafia.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
If Grape is scum, I hate Tubba's quick pop in. If town, still not a fan but not as bad.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
shadow usually lets Twilight linger forEVER, so people can still say their piece if they really want to get something off their chest before Night. Otherwise, choo choo.
Day one every MTGS game ever.
D_V 190
tomsloger 167
RE1031 162
Grapefruit21 139
Vaimes 135
Shinichi 100
Killjoy 71
LnGrrrR 63
Highroller 58
Sir Chris 57
Rhand 44
KamikazeArchon 39
Rodemy 38
1053nm 24
Tubba Fett 22
shadowlancerx 22
Hunger 21
Gentleman Johnny 15
Cantripmancer 15
Last, what the ****.
what do you want me to say... I can't help it...
I post as thoughts come up... and I have too much energy
I had 2 essays (8 and 10 pages) to finish the night before, so I slept really late and woke up past phase change and couldn't vote, but my vote wouldn't have made a difference anyway. (Scum won that game.)
I'll wait another 30 minutes before voting. Want to take a nap.
This probably shouldn't change anyone's mind.
Anyway this is was LnG pinged the crap out of me for his claim and why Rhands innocence is so townie to me.
If anyone needs a dead faction mate say so now. If not I'm joining someone at random who isn't a stark. Or maybe Tom since he has 2.
I guess. I think he's town but maybe starks will join.
vote: Grape
Well you're playing against your win con by doing so but c'est la vie.
Vote Grape
and I need myself and one other alive... so we are still good
Will have to think on that once we get flip
Don't waste energy dissecting my wagon because you let everyone hop on without reasoning.
I think the most coherent reason given was due to me thinking there was factional day chat and DV taking that very seriously.
Probably irrelevant now.
Vaimes for iron throne, etc
Don't trust LnGrrrR.
A nullish claim and 2 null people hammering?
Kj... sure
stepping away from the computer
That sounds like a you problem. My wagon literally came from nothing at like 30% your efforts to say I was one of only 3 viable targets.
KJ and Wisp being the hammers is just gross. I guess they didn't believe the claim but winning is winning.
I tried to ask shadow how my ability would work on someone with 2 alt win cons but he didn't have time to respond.
well at least your gone now so I don't have to hedge on you anymore
your wagon may have came from nothing
but all the other wagons were probably misses as well, so #Rip
I'll take a look at KJ.
LnG is not scum but his win con being redacted feels very worrisome. And there will be anti-town groups other than scum in this game.
KA just had wolfy pop ins. Literally nothing but opportunitistic posts about what was the subject do journalists. Never brought anything fresh to the table.
Do you think I am wrong on HR?
opinions on Tubba?
Why on earth would that make you not believe my claim? If anything it should have made me obviously alone and obviously town...
anyways I will talk to KJ in my chat tonight, and get something real out of him
and hopefully my brother
I think im going to ignore most if not all of the things Tom has to say, I want him to get shot by a vigi at this point