@Cantrip: If Whisp’s missions fails woth one fail, then yes, I’m assuming it’s him who failed it.
I will still look at reactions and reassess, but that’s where I stand right now.
@Lngr: if you don’t trust LW then why accept a mission witg him as leader?
@Cantrip: If Whisp’s missions fails woth one fail, then yes, I’m assuming it’s him who failed it.
I will still look at reactions and reassess, but that’s where I stand right now.
@Lngr: if you don’t trust LW then why accept a mission witg him as leader?
Because I trust you and KJ. If LW is informant and fails, he has to throw out some tricky lies to dance around. I feel like informant LW would pick a different team with an informant on it.
I don't have a problem with LW in a vaccuum, but LW and Shadow going so hard against each other means it would be harder to know which one to trust if in a mission together.
Riku is separate. I need to see more from him before I would want him in a mission.
Because I trust you and KJ. If LW is informant and fails, he has to throw out some tricky lies to dance around. I feel like informant LW would pick a different team with an informant on it.
I don't have a problem with LW in a vaccuum, but LW and Shadow going so hard against each other means it would be harder to know which one to trust if in a mission together.
Riku is separate. I need to see more from him before I would want him in a mission.
You’re saying LW would want a second scum in the team if he can fail it himself? Why would he do that instead of having 3 town to sow mistrust on?
I already explained this, a hundred times, if I am scum, and I have a partner on this team, them I just dummy them, and fail the mission myself
That's what I was trying to get at. I do see what Rhand is saying though. Maybe its better to just not take a chance, invite 3 townies to the team, and then fail yourself.
But if there were two informants, you could send the 2nd one away, and then say he passed, making him seem townie skin to a scum false claiming cop.
I already explained this, a hundred times, if I am scum, and I have a partner on this team, them I just dummy them, and fail the mission myself
That's what I was trying to get at. I do see what Rhand is saying though. Maybe its better to just not take a chance, invite 3 townies to the team, and then fail yourself.
But if there were two informants, you could send the 2nd one away, and then say he passed, making him seem townie skin to a scum false claiming cop.
LnGrrrR, Rhand, KJ, and Wisp are going on the mission. Please submit your pass fail in the next 24 hours. Wisp needs to submit who is being sent on the dummy mission as well.
With a man on the inside the next step was to compromise the surveillance system. A combination of looping footage, storage wipes, and disabled cameras was the way to go. As well as mapping out the guard routes and trying to find patterns. Making sure there was a plan for getting in a getting out on a exact time table was key.
Mission 2 succeeded with 3 passes.
KJ, LnG, LW, Rhand were on the mission.
It is now proposal 3.1 and it is Rhand's turn to propose.
Oh dang! We can win right now if there was only one scum on the mission, Rhand does the same mission and dummy’s the same person! If it fails, we literally have two outed scum, and if it succeeds we just win!
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Oh dang! We can win right now if there was only one scum on the mission, Rhand does the same mission and dummy’s the same person! If it fails, we literally have two outed scum, and if it succeeds we just win!
sadly that won't work, since the Rhand is the wolf and the leader of this mission
Oh dang! We can win right now if there was only one scum on the mission, Rhand does the same mission and dummy’s the same person! If it fails, we literally have two outed scum, and if it succeeds we just win!
sadly that won't work, since the Rhand is the wolf and the leader of this mission
Wait really? Wow, I apparently need to learn how to read Rhand better.
Yeah, I’m gonna go look for signaling, but KJ’s reaction is absolutely a scum reaction to seeing that mission pass.
Oh dang! We can win right now if there was only one scum on the mission, Rhand does the same mission and dummy’s the same person! If it fails, we literally have two outed scum, and if it succeeds we just win!
sadly that won't work, since the Rhand is the wolf and the leader of this mission
Wait really? Wow, I apparently need to learn how to read Rhand better.
Yeah, I’m gonna go look for signaling, but KJ’s reaction is absolutely a scum reaction to seeing that mission pass.
I need some time to re-evaluate you, but it's more believable that Rhand wouldn't push us as scum theater just to hide the fact that one of us was scum, Rhand will push this same mission as is what should happen, and then we will all not accept it, and if he doesn't push the same mission, we still don't accept it
I checked Rhand only because I felt like there was a little too much complacency with this mission even though it was mission two, which made me believe that the wolf on this train was a little deep
I also wanted to confirm Rhand in the case I was wrong
So Whisp is a wolf. I don’t understand why he didn’t fail the mission and try to blame me for that though.
He must be convinced they can fail all 3 last missions.
If Lngr or KJ is his partner, he sent the partner on the dummy mission. Which I actually doubt because he does throw shade on them.
So Whisp is a wolf. I don’t understand why he didn’t fail the mission and try to blame me for that though.
He must be convinced they can fail all 3 last missions.
If Lngr or KJ is his partner, he sent the partner on the dummy mission. Which I actually doubt because he does throw shade on them.
1. Because I'm town
2. I really can't convince you to not believe that, so sure? I can't stop people from fear mongering
3. Lngrr is still always town here, you being wolf still doesn't say anything about KJ, who could still easily be scum here
2 of your 3 points, are you doubting yourself, explaining that they are both bad actions to take, so why would I as scum do either of those?
Wisp: You're probably not 100% clear, but you are like 95%. There's the world where you blamed Rhand, and bluffed with a success. But I'm not a fan of Rhand's reaction.
But, like, if the next two missions fail (especially the 4th one) then you might be scum. Otherwise I'm not willing to entertain scum!you worlds.
Shadow: Your "It was KJ wasn't it?" is what's making me suspect you pretty hardcore. I've played enough Resistance to have seen that reaction from scum in response to a fail. They want to throw shade on someone on the mission who isn't their buddy.
So, Shadow is bad, so is Rhand. LnGrrR didn't put up enough of a fight to being put on a mission with their buddy to be scum with Rhand. Last proposed it, and isn't scum for reasons above.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
1.1 doesn't really tell us anything due to Riku not voting. Cantrip obviously approved becasue it was his mission, but we don't know Riku's thoughts on it.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm rejecting Rhand's proposal. Was gonna say would accept only if it was the one I was gonna pitch but he wouldn't dummy the same person, so never mind that.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@KJ: Except Last asked me what I thought, and then you responded my shading me even though I wasn’t on the mission. So no, nice try but I’m town here and I really don’t think you are at all.
@Last: 386 tells a narrative that conveniently ignores some key details (see about).
@KJ: Except Last asked me what I thought, and then you responded my shading me even though I wasn’t on the mission. So no, nice try but I’m town here and I really don’t think you are at all.
@Last: 386 tells a narrative that conveniently ignores some key details (see about).
I said I liked the post, not that I agree, and I fail to see this narrative
1.1 doesn't really tell us anything due to Riku not voting. Cantrip obviously approved becasue it was his mission, but we don't know Riku's thoughts on it.
That's actively wrong and you know it.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
So Whisp is a wolf. I don’t understand why he didn’t fail the mission and try to blame me for that though.
He must be convinced they can fail all 3 last missions.
If Lngr or KJ is his partner, he sent the partner on the dummy mission. Which I actually doubt because he does throw shade on them.
1. Because I'm town
2. I really can't convince you to not believe that, so sure? I can't stop people from fear mongering
3. Lngrr is still always town here, you being wolf still doesn't say anything about KJ, who could still easily be scum here
2 of your 3 points, are you doubting yourself, explaining that they are both bad actions to take, so why would I as scum do either of those?
Whisp is talking to me here as someone looking for mafia rather than someone that found mafia.
I wished this game had lynches.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
1.1 doesn't really tell us anything due to Riku not voting. Cantrip obviously approved becasue it was his mission, but we don't know Riku's thoughts on it.
That's actively wrong and you know it.
Not really.
I mean you were kinda lurkey during that. So you didn't provide a lot of commentary leading up to it etc. You could easily come in now and say "I would have voted X" but it's not the same as its you telling us and not you showing us.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I will still look at reactions and reassess, but that’s where I stand right now.
@Lngr: if you don’t trust LW then why accept a mission witg him as leader?
I don't have a problem with LW in a vaccuum, but LW and Shadow going so hard against each other means it would be harder to know which one to trust if in a mission together.
Riku is separate. I need to see more from him before I would want him in a mission.
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You’re saying LW would want a second scum in the team if he can fail it himself? Why would he do that instead of having 3 town to sow mistrust on?
That's what I was trying to get at. I do see what Rhand is saying though. Maybe its better to just not take a chance, invite 3 townies to the team, and then fail yourself.
But if there were two informants, you could send the 2nd one away, and then say he passed, making him seem townie skin to a scum false claiming cop.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
That's what I was trying to get at. I do see what Rhand is saying though. Maybe its better to just not take a chance, invite 3 townies to the team, and then fail yourself.
But if there were two informants, you could send the 2nd one away, and then say he passed, making him seem townie skin to a scum false claiming cop.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
LnGrrrR, Rhand, KJ, and Wisp are going on the mission. Please submit your pass fail in the next 24 hours. Wisp needs to submit who is being sent on the dummy mission as well.
Yes (6): Cantrip, KJ, LnGrrrR, LW, Riku, Shadow
No (1): Rhand
Please do not post.
Mission 2 succeeded with 3 passes.
KJ, LnG, LW, Rhand were on the mission.
It is now proposal 3.1 and it is Rhand's turn to propose.
You have 72 hours. Good luck!
If the dummy passed, then it’s almost certain that their are two scum on the mission and they couldn’t figure out what to do.
im glad im so good at this game
@Shadow
who do you think I dummyed?
You'd have to think I as scum dummy my partner just to not fail it myself, banking on fooling you for the next 3 missions
That would be some serious Wifom scum play to pass as the leader in your position, so yeah, I'm pretty sure you’re town.
Wisp needs to confirm though. Then we can analyze.
Hey KJ, I wasn’t on that mission.
Dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!
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@Whisp: can you confirm it was KJ?
Yeah, I’m gonna go look for signaling, but KJ’s reaction is absolutely a scum reaction to seeing that mission pass.
Are you trolling or did you really just give up mission 2 to frame me?
I also wanted to confirm Rhand in the case I was wrong
He must be convinced they can fail all 3 last missions.
If Lngr or KJ is his partner, he sent the partner on the dummy mission. Which I actually doubt because he does throw shade on them.
1. Because I'm town
2. I really can't convince you to not believe that, so sure? I can't stop people from fear mongering
3. Lngrr is still always town here, you being wolf still doesn't say anything about KJ, who could still easily be scum here
2 of your 3 points, are you doubting yourself, explaining that they are both bad actions to take, so why would I as scum do either of those?
So what about shadow?
Wisp: You're probably not 100% clear, but you are like 95%. There's the world where you blamed Rhand, and bluffed with a success. But I'm not a fan of Rhand's reaction.
But, like, if the next two missions fail (especially the 4th one) then you might be scum. Otherwise I'm not willing to entertain scum!you worlds.
Shadow: Your "It was KJ wasn't it?" is what's making me suspect you pretty hardcore. I've played enough Resistance to have seen that reaction from scum in response to a fail. They want to throw shade on someone on the mission who isn't their buddy.
So, Shadow is bad, so is Rhand. LnGrrR didn't put up enough of a fight to being put on a mission with their buddy to be scum with Rhand. Last proposed it, and isn't scum for reasons above.
So last scum is in [Cantrip, Riku].
@Last: 386 tells a narrative that conveniently ignores some key details (see about).
That's actively wrong and you know it.
Whisp is talking to me here as someone looking for mafia rather than someone that found mafia.
I wished this game had lynches.
propose team: Rhand, Lngr, KillJoy, Cantripmancer
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Or we could you know...not do that.
Rhand, LnGrrrR, KJ, Cantrip has been proposed.
You have roughly 29 hours to vote as I won't be able to post tomorrow morning.
Rhand can't go on this mission.
Rhand, KJ, Grrr and Cantrip
Kj you know you are good. I would hope you think I am good too. I think it would be quite strange if Rhand dummied either of us.
So he pretty much has to dummy Cantrip. Meaning if this mission fails, he puts himself. But if he is an informant he HAS to fail it or we win.
If the mission fails, then Rhand is pretty much assured to be an informant, and LW is pretty much assured to be a robber.
Ok, there are probably some holes in my theory/idea, feel free to poke.
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I mean you were kinda lurkey during that. So you didn't provide a lot of commentary leading up to it etc. You could easily come in now and say "I would have voted X" but it's not the same as its you telling us and not you showing us.