Think ill vote kami
And not explain at all but heavily imply i have a really good reason that will inevitably disappoint everyone when i finally reveal it
Hes prolly a PR worried about looking bad and tryharding. If i were scum id kill him early
@mafia
sure, i almost wanna call this twtbaw... but I hate those sort of reads
I walled because this site doesn't allow consecutive posts, so that was my workaround
Official prediction: me and tau will not see eye to eye, and vaguely scumread one another as long as were both alive
Dont think his alignment matters for this. Mine might, but not in ways anyone but me would understand.
Youre all ****ed if were both scum though
his posts are well structured, and his thoughts are pretty concise, but I dont necessarily agree with them, if it stays that way, then i'd probably be worried
Hes prolly a PR worried about looking bad and tryharding. If i were scum id kill him early
@mafia
sure, i almost wanna call this twtbaw... but I hate those sort of reads
I walled because this site doesn't allow consecutive posts, so that was my workaround
i dont want to lie to you i just want you flipped so i dont have to solve you.
But based on this response i already nailed it calling you a PR, you wouldn't think it was wolfy if it was wrong
@mafia
Hes prolly a PR worried about looking bad and tryharding. If i were scum id kill him early
@mafia
sure, i almost wanna call this twtbaw... but I hate those sort of reads
I walled because this site doesn't allow consecutive posts, so that was my workaround
i dont want to lie to you i just want you flipped so i dont have to solve you.
But based on this response i already nailed it calling you a PR, you wouldn't think it was wolfy if it was wrong
@mafia
Lmao, am I that obnoxious? also no comment on the rest of the stuff
Twtbaw reads are bogus if attempting to apply one to Tom. He relishes open wolfing.
@Wisp not only was I happy being 4th I want more votes on you.
I think this might be town Tom but there is ome giant red flag.
ouff reading Tom is town, this early? and the Killjoy thing, is this just TMI, am i overthinking this?
and twtbaw reads are bogus in general, not just with Tom
more votes on me are bad, and if you are gunna argue I should be lynched, you better start giving reasons
I’m going to wait with explaining why until he has a few more posts in because it’s meta and I don’t want to spoonfeed him what the difference between his town and scum game is before having enough evidence that this is the scum game.
I have no clue on my meta (think I talked about it recently in a spec chat that Rhand was in) so very okay with him keeping that reasoning secret.
Wisp you're just going to have to wait and see wrt you. On KJ read him and get back to me.
Actually there were two red flags on Tom now that I think about it but there is a decent reason to tentatively put him as town. Until further notice he can be town. And if KA is scum Tom is >90% to be town.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Think ill vote kami
And not explain at all but heavily imply i have a really good reason that will inevitably disappoint everyone when i finally reveal it
Can't help but notice you didn't answer my question. Should I put you on the permascum list now or later?
So this is weird to me: LW asks me for an explanation on Tau - then goes on to talk about his own Tau read and switches it to a townread, giving an explanation why. If I ask a suspect questions to probe reactions, I try to give a little info as possible about my own perspectives until after they've answered. LW didn't wait for that.
This is a roundabout way of answering your question about what I don't like about your post(s), LW. Is the above a small detail? Yes. That's what I'm seeing - small deviations from what I would consider natural play.
Natural is different for different people so this is certainly a soft read and we'll see how the game develops, but for now the vote's gonna stand.
@Whisper
Can you provide me with an example of a “good” entry post? Make one up or use one from this game, I’m just trying to gauge what you’re looking for.
just vote? dont tryi to hard to make the post come off as comical? dont give some deep reason for why you are voting someone? like its ******* RVS, if your gunna join it, then make it random, also mafia like to enter the thread first, you can try to argue thats not always the case, but I think otherwise
Where in the world do you get “comical first post=funny?”
I mean, i’m flattered, really, but that logic seems completely made up.
I’m always hilarious and it doesn’t matter what my alignment is, i’m Gonna be silly in my first post (**** for the longest time I was voting someone who wasn’t even in the game whenever I played ((Seppel)) )
More reads later. I need food.
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last town power role kj correctly read town by grape, tmi or no rodemy sure Some people that have posted kami is scum
Not sure I am a big fan of Tom supposedly calling out a PR so early in the game.
@grape: what’s the red flag?
I’m keeping my vote on last. Nothing he’s done has made me think he is town. He went back and forth on me, likeing a few things and disliking minute things (at least I found them minute) and still scumreads me for... being funny.
im not sure if random voting is part of my character either way
Unless you have some bizarre reading where "character" isn't a synonym to "meta"? Also, I don't know how to respond to the request to "explain again" without a hint on how the first explanation didn't work.
PS: I'd prefer to stop talking about my tomsloger read, it's pretty weak. I've been talking about it because other players have been asking questions on it.
I get it. It’s just he never specified it WAS his meta. But I get what you are saying
What reads would you like to discuss then?
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@Kami, did you vote LW just because of post #57, or because of more than that?
@Tubba, what did you think of LW's case on Rod?
I think I can see some of where they’re coming from, but it’s still not ENOUGH of anything to mean much to me. I try and make joke posts all the time regardless of alignment, I don’t take part in RVS but want to be part of the game. So I don’t see that as AI, and certainly not for Rod. The later stuff about Rod’s insistence for reasoning holds a little more weight, but I can see why Rod would want to get to the bottom of it. To summarize, it looks like a T/T slap fight starting, with a slightly scummier look for Whisper.
Hes prolly a PR worried about looking bad and tryharding. If i were scum id kill him early
@mafia
this is super gross. Unvote, Vote Tom #riprvs
I really don't like the follow up convo with whisper either. But I do appreciate getting the Rhand and Grape defenses, that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking of...
Think ill vote kami
And not explain at all but heavily imply i have a really good reason that will inevitably disappoint everyone when i finally reveal it
You do realize RVS is over right? Why are you randomly voting for kami?
Now, Riku and Rodemy look like town to me, while tom and wisp look like scum to me. Vote: tomsloger.
Think ill vote kami
And not explain at all but heavily imply i have a really good reason that will inevitably disappoint everyone when i finally reveal it
You do realize RVS is over right? Why are you randomly voting for kami?
Now, Riku and Rodemy look like town to me, while tom and wisp look like scum to me. Vote: tomsloger.
thats not a random vote, just an unexplained one.
And really... me and whisp both scum? The **** are we doing?
@MindReaver I really don't like the follow up convo with whisper either. But I do appreciate getting the Rhand and Grape defenses, that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking of...
what exactly do you mean by the last line, "that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking Of"
ztpqlpd’s vote on tom is so bad that I think it makes him town.
i thought that too but its mitigated a bit by how differently i know im playing to Ghostbusters rn, and i think after months of me being scum as his only experience its a bit strange that thats not mentioned or thought of afaict.
ztpqlpd’s vote on tom is so bad that I think it makes him town.
do you have the same thoughts with Mind's vote?
@Tom
I'm actually kinda mad that people on this site think I'm so polarized that they could even hope to find me scum this early, or by even assocations, I'm referring to Minds comment before he voted you. It's not that unnatural, so find town via PR hunting, I hate that you stated it, and I also hate that I couldn't get out of it without pretty much confirming it. #feelsbad
I mean, the option that goes along with him not believing it is just saying stuff to go with blustery confidence im scum so you should wait to see if he just keeps pushing me and looking for connections or is actually thinking things through
But now you have to watch how he reacts to being called out too so that should be fun
ztpqlpd’s vote on tom is so bad that I think it makes him town.
do you have the same thoughts with Mind's vote?
@Tom
I'm actually kinda mad that people on this site think I'm so polarized that they could even hope to find me scum this early, or by even assocations, I'm referring to Minds comment before he voted you. It's not that unnatural, so find town via PR hunting, I hate that you stated it, and I also hate that I couldn't get out of it without pretty much confirming it. #feelsbad
ztpqlpd’s vote on tom is so bad that I think it makes him town.
do you have the same thoughts with Mind's vote?
@Tom
I'm actually kinda mad that people on this site think I'm so polarized that they could even hope to find me scum this early, or by even assocations, I'm referring to Minds comment before he voted you. It's not that unnatural, so find town via PR hunting, I hate that you stated it, and I also hate that I couldn't get out of it without pretty much confirming it. #feelsbad
@Mafia
I'm a very good PR, please kill me, thanks
@mafia
I... what?
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ztpqlpd’s vote on tom is so bad that I think it makes him town.
i thought that too but its mitigated a bit by how differently i know im playing to Ghostbusters rn, and i think after months of me being scum as his only experience its a bit strange that thats not mentioned or thought of afaict.
Dont think his alignment matters for this. Mine might, but not in ways anyone but me would understand.
Youre all ****ed if were both scum though
vote kami
And not explain at all but heavily imply i have a really good reason that will inevitably disappoint everyone when i finally reveal it
I walled because this site doesn't allow consecutive posts, so that was my workaround
But based on this response i already nailed it calling you a PR, you wouldn't think it was wolfy if it was wrong
@mafia
<3
You see i make my living on reading average players. Anyone too good or too bad gives me fits.
You are both
last town power role
kj correctly read town by grape, tmi or no
rodemy sure
Some people that have posted
kami is scum
if I was a vig, which im mostly certainly not, I would probably just shoot you at this point
@Wisp not only was I happy being 4th I want more votes on you.
I think this might be town Tom but there is ome giant red flag.
and twtbaw reads are bogus in general, not just with Tom
more votes on me are bad, and if you are gunna argue I should be lynched, you better start giving reasons
See ya Monday.
I’m going to wait with explaining why until he has a few more posts in because it’s meta and I don’t want to spoonfeed him what the difference between his town and scum game is before having enough evidence that this is the scum game.
For science
I have no clue on my meta (think I talked about it recently in a spec chat that Rhand was in) so very okay with him keeping that reasoning secret.
Wisp you're just going to have to wait and see wrt you. On KJ read him and get back to me.
Actually there were two red flags on Tom now that I think about it but there is a decent reason to tentatively put him as town. Until further notice he can be town. And if KA is scum Tom is >90% to be town.
Not strong ones, no.
Slight town lean on you and LW, and that’s about it.
Let's do some science of my own.
Vote Tubba
So this is weird to me: LW asks me for an explanation on Tau - then goes on to talk about his own Tau read and switches it to a townread, giving an explanation why. If I ask a suspect questions to probe reactions, I try to give a little info as possible about my own perspectives until after they've answered. LW didn't wait for that.
This is a roundabout way of answering your question about what I don't like about your post(s), LW. Is the above a small detail? Yes. That's what I'm seeing - small deviations from what I would consider natural play.
Natural is different for different people so this is certainly a soft read and we'll see how the game develops, but for now the vote's gonna stand.
Rod might be town.
Vote stands.
@Tubba, what did you think of LW's case on Rod?
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Where in the world do you get “comical first post=funny?”
I mean, i’m flattered, really, but that logic seems completely made up.
I’m always hilarious and it doesn’t matter what my alignment is, i’m Gonna be silly in my first post (**** for the longest time I was voting someone who wasn’t even in the game whenever I played ((Seppel)) )
More reads later. I need food.
Not sure I am a big fan of Tom supposedly calling out a PR so early in the game.
@grape: what’s the red flag?
I’m keeping my vote on last. Nothing he’s done has made me think he is town. He went back and forth on me, likeing a few things and disliking minute things (at least I found them minute) and still scumreads me for... being funny.
I like Tau tho.
I get it. It’s just he never specified it WAS his meta. But I get what you are saying
What reads would you like to discuss then?
I think I can see some of where they’re coming from, but it’s still not ENOUGH of anything to mean much to me. I try and make joke posts all the time regardless of alignment, I don’t take part in RVS but want to be part of the game. So I don’t see that as AI, and certainly not for Rod. The later stuff about Rod’s insistence for reasoning holds a little more weight, but I can see why Rod would want to get to the bottom of it. To summarize, it looks like a T/T slap fight starting, with a slightly scummier look for Whisper.
this is super gross. Unvote, Vote Tom #riprvs
I really don't like the follow up convo with whisper either. But I do appreciate getting the Rhand and Grape defenses, that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking of...
Why are you speaking for tom exactly?
Why Vaimes?
OOG: FYI, weekends are usually hard for me to get on, I'l be way more active during the week.
But... You just made an RVS vote!
This seems weird to me.
Also, if you don't like random voting, contribute meaningfully and get the game out of RVS
Try maybe defending.
This really sounds like scum to me here.
You do realize RVS is over right? Why are you randomly voting for kami?
Now, Riku and Rodemy look like town to me, while tom and wisp look like scum to me. Vote: tomsloger.
Deal with it.
So apparently we are doing scum theater...
@zdtsd
My vote was not rvs, I already explained that, secondly, what exactly does that post give off? And how the **** is Tom's vote RVS
And really... me and whisp both scum? The **** are we doing?
I really don't like the follow up convo with whisper either. But I do appreciate getting the Rhand and Grape defenses, that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking of...
what exactly do you mean by the last line, "that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking Of"
did you explain why I am scummy? cause really don't recall?
As for whether he actually thinks my buddies would defend me when i can clearly survive indefinitely without their help, thats a different matter
@Tom
I'm actually kinda mad that people on this site think I'm so polarized that they could even hope to find me scum this early, or by even assocations, I'm referring to Minds comment before he voted you. It's not that unnatural, so find town via PR hunting, I hate that you stated it, and I also hate that I couldn't get out of it without pretty much confirming it. #feelsbad
@Mafia
I'm a very good PR, please kill me, thanks
But now you have to watch how he reacts to being called out too so that should be fun
I... what?
Good point. Not writing him off yet.