ya well I don't really want presumptions, something about you and Rodemy speaking up for others is still rubbing me the wrong way.
I've got some bad news for you...
Also point me to Rod making assumptions. I think you decided you saw something and it isn't there and you're stuck on it.
i mean I see a lot of things, whether they stick or not depends on players progress, I looked at the multitude of people's posts, and I think this posts actually sounds and looks scummy, but have they made predominantly town posts
Theres a reason I'd rather play in real time, because my thoughts come and go, ya you can argue that I didnt point something out earlier, because a post at one point probably looked ok to me, but as I read it again, my thoughts my flip flop, I'm not a robot, and my thought process is pretty fluid in that I'm not always locked to one position on any post at any one time.
But it isn't? You are literally putting words in his mouth.
He's attacking Tom's thought process, but at the same time, deciding through his own perception how thought at the time I made that post, and the funny thing is, which I actually stated before, was that I actually did like tom's entrance compared to many others... I just find his choice of words odd, whether he thinks so or not is subjective, because he can argue I am wrong, but I will argue that I am right, and my opinion on the statement is exactly what I stated many times, in that he is just trying to make it look like hes trying to game solve
Not a fan of this vote either, whats his intentions with this blanket vote? maybe im just tunneled at this point, but Rodemy still just feels like scum trying to keep his presence on the thread
and Rod again isnt the only one giving off these pings, Grr's posts that Tom highlighted made me think the same thing, as well as Grape, I did like
Grape said something in his Wall, that came off as really self aware, and I feel like only scum focus on being that self aware:
Quote from Grape »
Mindreaver's 184 screams town. This is absolutely the townie way to push me for my naked and persistent vote.
I dont really like grape townreading mindreaver for 184.
Its after-the-fact exposition, not a dynamic thought process that you read someone for.
Its a perfectly fine post, but not something that ought to strike grape like that, so i conclude its a forced read, perhaps on a buddy.
Putting mindreaver on the scumteam is also omgus because his push on me remains garbage and him handwaving it away to say no one is gonna try to actually read me this early makes it worse, not better
Ooh, and lngrr ignored me until called out because he already had multiple buddies talking about me probably too much for their own good.
Kami im a) still not explaining or b) never had anything in the first place and am just keeping him in my scumreads for c) because why not d) to maintain consistency
Wisp the fact that you only want to play in the moment and use that as an excuse to not justify past behavior makes me want to lynch you so badly. I realize you do go onto explain those thoughts but only after complaining about having to do so. Anyway you're town, stop complaining about being asked to play.
On the first Rod post: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*ahem*
He did the opposite of making assumptions there. Tom made a correct assumption about your reasoning, rod made an incorrect reading of your post which really doesn't make an obvious town read of Tom at all. It requires assuming you were sharing the votes to praise Tom's lack of vote. When the more accurate read based off what you said was just that the votes sucked.
Anyway your scum like to joke in RVS theory is beyond weak. So yeah. Don't use that.
Also I thought you knew me better than this. Self conciousness defines my play.
Wisp the fact that you only want to play in the moment and use that as an excuse to not justify past behavior makes me want to lynch you so badly. I realize you do go onto explain those thoughts but only after complaining about having to do so. Anyway you're town, stop complaining about being asked to play.
being asked to play? I made the comment, and you wanted the answer so there was your answer
@Tom right idea, wrong direction.
is this a scum claim? lol
and you are never gunna tell me that reading off entrances is bad play
I dont even think you are trying to argue I am town, I think you just no I am at this point, and you really want to scum read me now but you cant
Wisp go read my early posts. I was attempting breadcrumb that I didn't think you were scum. I thought I was being too obvious.
Quote from wisp »
i mean I see a lot of things, whether they stick or not depends on players progress, I looked at the multitude of people's posts, and I think this posts actually sounds and looks scummy, but have they made predominantly town posts
Theres a reason I'd rather play in real time, because my thoughts come and go, ya you can argue that I didnt point something out earlier, because a post at one point probably looked ok to me, but as I read it again, my thoughts my flip flop, I'm not a robot, and my thought process is pretty fluid in that I'm not always locked to one position on any post at any one time.
Is what I meant about complaining about being asked to play. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it makes no sense as an answer to my joke or my points about assumptions. It feels like being annoyed at me asking you to explain why you're voting Rod for assumptions when I pointed out he explicitly wasn't making them.
Like just brushing your previous reasoning aside and then justifying it with different reasoning is how bad tunnels happen. So for you to pivot from Rod is scum for jokey RVS and making assumptions to "deciding through his own perception how thought at the time I made that post" and "Rodemy still just feels like scum trying to keep his presence on the thread" is dangerous. Again yes you know Rod got your thought process wrong, but reading without assumptions would conclude you weren't town reading tom. If that was the default assumption tom would haven't bothered making a joke about it. So your making a read based on making assumptions by assuming the incorrect default assumption because you know your own thought process.
Reading based off entrances isn't bad play but doing it on as flimsy reasoning as "scum like to joke" is. If you want to say his joke was awkward or flat that's one thing, but just joking in RVS isn't valid reasoning. Plus that was super obvious and it was going to be made by someone.
Last thought it's way too early in the game to be making keeping presence up reads.
damn that was a good post lmao, don't actually have a rebuttal for that
I'll agree, that I think I am using, "trying to keep presence in thread" a little too much for the current game state, but that isnt what I am actually trying to say, Im just really getting caught up in my own words, maybe it is just a bad tunnel
Killjoy - /barning grapefruit's read here, tomsloger has discussed why it would be valid even if grapefruit is scum. I haven't even checked the spectator thread mentioned in it. I do want to mention that on the list of Things Scum Lie About, reads based on somebody fulfilling publicly available criteria is way way at the bottom of the list.
Lastwhisper - Done a 180 on them. They went into more detail about how they read entrances to the thread, and while I don't agree with their evaluation it's makes me believe that #15 was made with a (real) weak reason, which removes the contradiction with #20. I also like their activity since I voted them.
Rod - I like his aggression, it felt like he was trying to get the game moving. I don't think he was making the most effective posts, but that struck me more as a fault in ability rather than motivation. Also I remember a couple people saying they disliked his aggression (particularly lastwhisper), which struck as wrong footed - I've found it's Town who want to be more aggressive, since Town is the faction which needs to generate info.
Tubba - I think his few posts demonstrate a surprising amount of Town mindset, I was particularly surprised by #97 as making Lastwhisper throw a strong light on his internal thought processes.
Grapefruit - I think his read on Tom is weird and overconfident, but I like most of the rest of his content. His readslist seems thought-out and consistent with previous posts, and he doesn't feel like he acted as my scumbuddy in our last game together (although it has been quite a while since then.) I particularly like his townread of Killjoy - it moved Killjoy up to townread, when as scum grapefruit could have just stayed silent. Vote on him was mostly for science anyway since Rumanshi was going nowhere.
Figure them out later tier:
tomsloger, M1ndreaver
Both are strong players who have been Town enough for now. Probably not going to try to lynch either of them this Day phase.
Rhand tier:
I have things I both like and dislike about Rhand. I think he's a little too focused on grapefruit/tomsloger, and in #149 he declares that M1ndreaver could be "naive town" which is incongruent to his focus on tomsloger, since tomsloger mentioned M1ndreaver's history as a strong player just a few posts ago in #138. I'm happy to leave him alone for now and see what he does in the future.
AFK tier:
August, EtR, Rumanshi, Vaimes zdtsd
Despite being the only one who's literal-literal vanished, I'm giving August the most slack because the rest showed up and did conspicuously little.
Rumanshi is at the bottom (most scummy) of this tier.
Below average Townpoints tier:
KamikazeArchon:
First there was their vote on Lastwhisper (#61) which was based on a newer post of Lastwhisper (#57). This kind of "I'm going to me-too on a large bandwagon, but state my reasoning is ~completely different from everybody else~ is something I've seen much more from Mafia trying to fake activity then town. #193 even has Kami state that #57 was the SOLE reason he voted Lastwhisper, which I frankly find unbelievable. I don't see how any Townie can look at all the fuss around Lastwhisper and have ZERO opinion.
Additionally #125 strike me as a bad faith of argument, it seems pretty obvious to me Lastwhisper's change in their read of me made his questions about other player's townreads of me less relevant, but in #125 Kami tries to paint this as behavior showing a lack of consistent approach to the game.
LnGrrR - Almost entirely made of weak questions and not moving the game forward. I don't think there's one proactive LrGrrR has taken this game - even his Lastwhisper vote was total RVS. #170 is a whole mess of scum tells - it's information instead of analysis, it's fighting against the existence of information by declaring the reasons the wagon came into existence weak without suggestion alternatives, and LrGrrR states that LrGrrR can't call Tubba scummy for quiet because LrGrrR is being quiet, which is much more a Mafia mindset than a town one. (PS: LrGrrR got called on the information instead of analysis and wrote #192 in response, which predictably declares most votes on the wagon nulltells.)
I already explained the ZDT read. Vaimes there isn't a ton but tonally he feels off to me. He'll sort himself out but he's tentatively scummy for the way he handled LW's tone.
vote: LnGrrrR
because Im sheeping Tau's read, which is mostly an extension of mine, but explained a lot better
and I thought Grapes last post was actually really good
This isnt a judgement of anybody, but townreading grape or tau or whoever because they make good posts is the same as reading *your name here* for making bad ones or me for making trolly ones.
Interesting part is *why* they make the posts, not how good a job they do
This isnt a judgement of anybody, but townreading grape or tau or whoever because they make good posts is the same as reading *your name here* for making bad ones or me for making trolly ones.
Interesting part is *why* they make the posts, not how good a job they do
i said he made a good post, did I say I gave him a town read? and i literally already made that argument
Tau's thoughts feel natural, thats a decent enough reason to read him as town for now, and his re-evaluation of me was ok?
I like the detail he put into his post that answered my quote
Grape I mean
I can't agree though that, that is where he should be focusing on, since im town in his eyes, but I like how he didn't just call me wrong, but instead went into details of why my thought process was wrong, and rather than attacking me, he broke down my argument and refuted it with natural thoughts... He should probably stop hedging on me, its bad for his health
Tau can be town because he mind-melded with me on thoughts that I may or may have not posted in relation with Kami, and Grr
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm also sitting here wondering why people are townreading me because grape says I'm town but everyone thinks Grape is scum?
only speaking for myself here, but the nature of that grape read is more important to me than grape making it. Like, hes saying that he can see you taking advice to improve your town game. Thats good *****. A very good sign youre town, especially when not played up to even the only person thst was in whatever chat that was.
So i think maybe people are trusting that, like me, and are just left to figure out whether grape is town making a good read or scum TMIing. Which is a nifty little question and a fun way to solve grape.
The other option is people are sheeping me, saying that grape doesnt make that read on a buddy and is highly likely to be correct if hes town so its very existence all but proves you town. Which is a pretty dope thing ive created in this game if i do say so myself congratulations on your lock town status
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Time to spoil what I found out about Grape’s meta. It dawned on me after feeling a difference between his tone here and in Ghostbusters, and I checked Pirates (where he was scum) to confirm it.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I have thoughts...
Kj feels...
I think...
Is bad
Screams
How can you go from
I think
Might be
Might be
Screams town (twice, bothfor mindreaver)
Strikes me
I know
I think
I thought
I already explained
I think
Anyway
KJ, LW, Mindreaver
Rod, tom
Riku, Tubba, Rhand
August, EtR, Tau
Vaimes, ZD, LnGrrrR
KA (probably should be orange, but below the others)
Vote: KA
Presumably for my town read on him. I don't really expect tom to explain.
I've got some bad news for you...
Also point me to Rod making assumptions. I think you decided you saw something and it isn't there and you're stuck on it.
unvote
Vote August
Theres a reason I'd rather play in real time, because my thoughts come and go, ya you can argue that I didnt point something out earlier, because a post at one point probably looked ok to me, but as I read it again, my thoughts my flip flop, I'm not a robot, and my thought process is pretty fluid in that I'm not always locked to one position on any post at any one time.
im refering to mostly his interjection here:
He's attacking Tom's thought process, but at the same time, deciding through his own perception how thought at the time I made that post, and the funny thing is, which I actually stated before, was that I actually did like tom's entrance compared to many others... I just find his choice of words odd, whether he thinks so or not is subjective, because he can argue I am wrong, but I will argue that I am right, and my opinion on the statement is exactly what I stated many times, in that he is just trying to make it look like hes trying to game solve
Not a fan of this vote either, whats his intentions with this blanket vote? maybe im just tunneled at this point, but Rodemy still just feels like scum trying to keep his presence on the thread
and Rod again isnt the only one giving off these pings, Grr's posts that Tom highlighted made me think the same thing, as well as Grape, I did like
Grape said something in his Wall, that came off as really self aware, and I feel like only scum focus on being that self aware:
and Rod again isnt the only one giving off these pings, Grr's posts that Tom highlighted made me think the same thing, as well as Grape, I did like
should be
and Rod again isnt the only one giving off these pings, Grr's posts that Tom highlighted made me think the same thing, as well as Grape, I didnt* like
Its after-the-fact exposition, not a dynamic thought process that you read someone for.
Its a perfectly fine post, but not something that ought to strike grape like that, so i conclude its a forced read, perhaps on a buddy.
Putting mindreaver on the scumteam is also omgus because his push on me remains garbage and him handwaving it away to say no one is gonna try to actually read me this early makes it worse, not better
Grape/mindreaver/lngrr/kami
Kami im a) still not explaining or b) never had anything in the first place and am just keeping him in my scumreads for c) because why not d) to maintain consistency
Well, big reveal time: it was "b" ive got nothing
But ill keep up the charade because he could totally be the 4th scum and his name can be a placeholder for now
On the first Rod post: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*ahem*
He did the opposite of making assumptions there. Tom made a correct assumption about your reasoning, rod made an incorrect reading of your post which really doesn't make an obvious town read of Tom at all. It requires assuming you were sharing the votes to praise Tom's lack of vote. When the more accurate read based off what you said was just that the votes sucked.
Anyway your scum like to joke in RVS theory is beyond weak. So yeah. Don't use that.
Also I thought you knew me better than this. Self conciousness defines my play.
@Tom right idea, wrong direction.
Well that's funny. You ran that gimmick much more believably than I did.
But by all means continue tunneling me. I'm not dying today.
That doesnt sound right at all
being asked to play? I made the comment, and you wanted the answer so there was your answer
@Tom right idea, wrong direction.
is this a scum claim? lol
and you are never gunna tell me that reading off entrances is bad play
Wisp go read my early posts. I was attempting breadcrumb that I didn't think you were scum. I thought I was being too obvious.
Is what I meant about complaining about being asked to play. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it makes no sense as an answer to my joke or my points about assumptions. It feels like being annoyed at me asking you to explain why you're voting Rod for assumptions when I pointed out he explicitly wasn't making them.
Like just brushing your previous reasoning aside and then justifying it with different reasoning is how bad tunnels happen. So for you to pivot from Rod is scum for jokey RVS and making assumptions to "deciding through his own perception how thought at the time I made that post" and "Rodemy still just feels like scum trying to keep his presence on the thread" is dangerous. Again yes you know Rod got your thought process wrong, but reading without assumptions would conclude you weren't town reading tom. If that was the default assumption tom would haven't bothered making a joke about it. So your making a read based on making assumptions by assuming the incorrect default assumption because you know your own thought process.
Reading based off entrances isn't bad play but doing it on as flimsy reasoning as "scum like to joke" is. If you want to say his joke was awkward or flat that's one thing, but just joking in RVS isn't valid reasoning. Plus that was super obvious and it was going to be made by someone.
Last thought it's way too early in the game to be making keeping presence up reads.
I'll agree, that I think I am using, "trying to keep presence in thread" a little too much for the current game state, but that isnt what I am actually trying to say, Im just really getting caught up in my own words, maybe it is just a bad tunnel
Town tier:
Killjoy - /barning grapefruit's read here, tomsloger has discussed why it would be valid even if grapefruit is scum. I haven't even checked the spectator thread mentioned in it. I do want to mention that on the list of Things Scum Lie About, reads based on somebody fulfilling publicly available criteria is way way at the bottom of the list.
Lastwhisper - Done a 180 on them. They went into more detail about how they read entrances to the thread, and while I don't agree with their evaluation it's makes me believe that #15 was made with a (real) weak reason, which removes the contradiction with #20. I also like their activity since I voted them.
Rod - I like his aggression, it felt like he was trying to get the game moving. I don't think he was making the most effective posts, but that struck me more as a fault in ability rather than motivation. Also I remember a couple people saying they disliked his aggression (particularly lastwhisper), which struck as wrong footed - I've found it's Town who want to be more aggressive, since Town is the faction which needs to generate info.
Tubba - I think his few posts demonstrate a surprising amount of Town mindset, I was particularly surprised by #97 as making Lastwhisper throw a strong light on his internal thought processes.
Grapefruit - I think his read on Tom is weird and overconfident, but I like most of the rest of his content. His readslist seems thought-out and consistent with previous posts, and he doesn't feel like he acted as my scumbuddy in our last game together (although it has been quite a while since then.) I particularly like his townread of Killjoy - it moved Killjoy up to townread, when as scum grapefruit could have just stayed silent. Vote on him was mostly for science anyway since Rumanshi was going nowhere.
Figure them out later tier:
tomsloger, M1ndreaver
Both are strong players who have been Town enough for now. Probably not going to try to lynch either of them this Day phase.
Rhand tier:
I have things I both like and dislike about Rhand. I think he's a little too focused on grapefruit/tomsloger, and in #149 he declares that M1ndreaver could be "naive town" which is incongruent to his focus on tomsloger, since tomsloger mentioned M1ndreaver's history as a strong player just a few posts ago in #138. I'm happy to leave him alone for now and see what he does in the future.
AFK tier:
August, EtR, Rumanshi, Vaimes zdtsd
Despite being the only one who's literal-literal vanished, I'm giving August the most slack because the rest showed up and did conspicuously little.
Rumanshi is at the bottom (most scummy) of this tier.
Below average Townpoints tier:
KamikazeArchon:
First there was their vote on Lastwhisper (#61) which was based on a newer post of Lastwhisper (#57). This kind of "I'm going to me-too on a large bandwagon, but state my reasoning is ~completely different from everybody else~ is something I've seen much more from Mafia trying to fake activity then town. #193 even has Kami state that #57 was the SOLE reason he voted Lastwhisper, which I frankly find unbelievable. I don't see how any Townie can look at all the fuss around Lastwhisper and have ZERO opinion.
Additionally #125 strike me as a bad faith of argument, it seems pretty obvious to me Lastwhisper's change in their read of me made his questions about other player's townreads of me less relevant, but in #125 Kami tries to paint this as behavior showing a lack of consistent approach to the game.
LnGrrR - Almost entirely made of weak questions and not moving the game forward. I don't think there's one proactive LrGrrR has taken this game - even his Lastwhisper vote was total RVS. #170 is a whole mess of scum tells - it's information instead of analysis, it's fighting against the existence of information by declaring the reasons the wagon came into existence weak without suggestion alternatives, and LrGrrR states that LrGrrR can't call Tubba scummy for quiet because LrGrrR is being quiet, which is much more a Mafia mindset than a town one. (PS: LrGrrR got called on the information instead of analysis and wrote #192 in response, which predictably declares most votes on the wagon nulltells.)
Vote LnGrrR
Grapefruit21 ( 3 ): Lastwhisper (115); Rhand (117); M1ndreaver (187);
LnGrrrR ( 3 ): Vaimes (9); tomsloger (182); Reaverb Tau (226);
tomsloger ( 2 ): EtR (29); zdtsd (133);
August ( 1 ): Rodemy (208);
KamikazeArchon ( 1 ): Grapefruit21 (203);
Killjoy ( 1 ): Rumanshi (73);
Lastwhisper ( 1 ): KamikazeArchon (61);
Rhand ( 1 ): LnGrrrR (8);
Tubba Fett ( 1 ): Killjoy (124);
I already explained the ZDT read. Vaimes there isn't a ton but tonally he feels off to me. He'll sort himself out but he's tentatively scummy for the way he handled LW's tone.
because Im sheeping Tau's read, which is mostly an extension of mine, but explained a lot better
and I thought Grapes last post was actually really good
if he pops in for 1 or 2 posts every couple of days, then you just burn him at the stake
This isnt a judgement of anybody, but townreading grape or tau or whoever because they make good posts is the same as reading *your name here* for making bad ones or me for making trolly ones.
Interesting part is *why* they make the posts, not how good a job they do
Tau's thoughts feel natural, thats a decent enough reason to read him as town for now, and his re-evaluation of me was ok?
Could say the same about grape but i dont want to
Grape I mean
I can't agree though that, that is where he should be focusing on, since im town in his eyes, but I like how he didn't just call me wrong, but instead went into details of why my thought process was wrong, and rather than attacking me, he broke down my argument and refuted it with natural thoughts... He should probably stop hedging on me, its bad for his health
Tau can be town because he mind-melded with me on thoughts that I may or may have not posted in relation with Kami, and Grr
React like what?I'm not seeing anything there. Not seeing that either.
I'm also sitting here wondering why people are townreading me because grape says I'm town but everyone thinks Grape is scum?
I think I'm never going to be confident he's town as long as he's alive.
But I might see something. Gonna explore.
So i think maybe people are trusting that, like me, and are just left to figure out whether grape is town making a good read or scum TMIing. Which is a nifty little question and a fun way to solve grape.
The other option is people are sheeping me, saying that grape doesnt make that read on a buddy and is highly likely to be correct if hes town so its very existence all but proves you town. Which is a pretty dope thing ive created in this game if i do say so myself congratulations on your lock town status
About =rand if im wrong on mindreaver. That read does stand out as forced though.
I'm considering putting you in my town circle. Really hoping thats not a mistake.
Town!Grape feels, guesses, wishes,...
Scum!Grape knows, thinks,...
If you look at the first pages of his posts in Ghostbusters, the word think isn’t even in his dictionary .
I’m voting him for a reason
I have thoughts...
Kj feels...
I think...
Is bad
Screams
How can you go from
I think
Might be
Might be
Screams town (twice, bothfor mindreaver)
Strikes me
I know
I think
I thought
I already explained
I think