Alright so barring a no kill (which is pretty bad if theres a cop coin, which i believe) last the rolestopper stopped kill on cowbells
Rhand is 50% mechanically, ~scummy d1, slightly townie today so far.
Maybe worse than 50% since as town hed be fairly likely to draw the framer shot but theres a bunch of weird statistics theres its below 1/12 though
Ruma might be outed by osi questions.
Rhand could be cleared
Cowbells gets to shoot for scum or give his own life to clear someone else. So if we assume last isnt silly enough to no kill we always have a confirmed town in final 3
So yeh we already know LW’s claim.
RC not scum because he was the only one protected and there was no kill.
LW not scum, unless he skipped the NK to clear himself. extremely unlikely.
Ruma only scum if he was honest about the roleblock, confirming he targeted the NK. Very unlikely.
Scarlet only scum if she decided to townclear one of the most lyncheable townies. Very unlikely, especially with tom giving her an opening to still suspect me.
tom can be scum, and is very likely because of how he decided to convince Scarlet that I’m not innocent before knowing if Ruma was bodyguard or not. I think tom knew there was no bodyguard in town.
I can only be scum if Godfather can be used together with another token (to be confirmed by Osie / LW)
I think the mafia tokens are godfather / ascetic and miller/framer isn’t in the game. Because tom would’ve totally framed me.
dont think id be more likely to save the ***** out of a buddy if i had godfather?
Anyway with those the two remaining i agree youre the likely cop check ergo frame target if youre town so unless osi rules it out im saying you being checked town makes you something like 55% scum overall lol
Ill do exact numbers sometime before hammer that sounds like a fun thing to do
>Last confirms rolestopper
>Godfather works as stated in OP, at least for final scum
>Scarlet is town
One is discarded, one is other scum coin since Rhand cant be fake claiming the discarded token if last confirma reciept
If discarded is framer, rhand would be godfather if scum so check meaningless
If discarded is godfather, scumscarlet does not frame rhand, scum ruma is like 50/50 to use rolecop instead and use of frame is ~random cuz ruma
Keeping last lock clear in this world, cowbells unlikely scum but he 100% frames rhand i think
Making all three equal candidates for sake of argument makes 0*1/3+.5*.25*1/3+1*1/3
So in exactly half of worlds scumrhand and townrhand both investigate as town and the check is meaningless
And in the other half of worlds townrhand investigates as scum 9/24 of the time, approximately, and scum rhand investigates as scum all the time
So rhand, by my math, is clear ~31% of the time
If you want to include me, who also ~always frames rhand, like cowbells, the number goes down even lower
(Though stays the same percentage from cowbells pov, and hilariously goes even lower from specifically scarlets pov)
I don't framw anyone as wolf if I know the bodyguard isn't in play because even if it gets me a lynch it means confirming solo scuma night action and clearing anyone with a CONFIRMABLE action when an innocent means nothing anyway 2/3 of the time
Never mind, I see what happened. I asked 2 questions in one line and he answered them seperately, making me misinterpret all subsequent answers.
So yes, technically I can be scum.
I would say lynch me now and shoot tom toNight.
OK I just realised I'm thinking really irrationally with this because you either die tonight making you Town or you survive and become 100% scum so you'd never fake being Midnight Desperado so... if it's not Tom then I'm somehow wrong on Rhand or it's Rum. Which means again it's 99% Tom.
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How does anyone think RC condemns his own partner... For literally what reason, and RC is a veteran, and from his posts, I could see him easily being able to push a mislynch if he was scum, it's dumb to think he has any sort of scum!equity, like if you want to make your lean list, fine, but he shouldn't ever be in it, or be put last
Yes I have bussed, I do buss, but I'm notcrazy enough, to buss my partner when there's only me and him
I thought that Mafia could only use 1 token + the night kill and not both, but I got an answer that from the mod that doesn't really confirm that to be true, in the sense that scum could probably use both tokens, idk honestly
Because a lot of people have asked, the mafia nightkill counts as an extra action, and the godfather and Miller roles are passive 1-shots. A mafia team member with access to the Godfather plus another coin could take their action, nightkill, and still receive the passive protection of the godfather.
(This may or may not remain the case in future runs of this game.)
If framer exists, I would like to believe they would frame either rhand, or ruma
I want to get claims out, so I can world build, Riku claiming he was roleblocked is odd to say the least
I want you to claim, but it's doubtful based on your playstyle, so we just Lynch you here, I still want the rest of the claims, my claim is pretty much breadcrumb, but I'll hard claim once RV asks me to
I think that SC scumreading me is... looool and honestly it makes me feel like if I wasn't self resolving that I'd be getting paranoia lynched here at some point despite having dragged everyone onto the d1 wolf lynch and that's uninspiring to say the least but okay whatever. It doesn't matter in this game but if/when we play again, you should reconsider setting the bar for me proving my towniness so high that I still haven't met it in this game
That aside I think SC and Wisp are town, same read as I had yesterday so basically I think.the massclaim changed nothing due to the ...regrettably scumsided roll of the setup. Setup as a whole is I think just wolf sided but instead of getting sidetracked .
We Lynch 1 of tomrumaruaje
Lynch the last
If last whisper claims anything besides rolestopper were lynching Ruma, if he claims that I think we Lynch Tom