I did the Rodemy iso but he spent basically the entire time he was playing talking about tom and Highroller to the exclusion of everyone else. He barely even reacted to other players mentioning him. Pretty sure they're both spewed; both progressions are pretty weird and not really partner/partner.
The rest of the post was looking at the evolution of the Rodemy wagon from 1.4 to EoD. Had bunches of colored wagons and stuff, but I'm out of time so I'll just give you the EoD wagon and quick highlights from the evolution of it.
Vaimes left the Rodemy wagon once Rodemy got some traction, then came back for the hammer.
Ruma and Tubba both joined the wagon pretty late, and with pretty weak votes.
If there's a busser on Rodemy (and there almost certainly is at least one) it's probably one of them. Second busser could be Vezok, I suppose?
Off wagon it's pretty much just DV (r. elijah) or EtR. I have a gut town read on EtR that I can't really explain properly, so it's either DV or all of Rod's partners are on him. I guess you could say it's me if you want to, but I know it isn't, so.
Vote: Rumanshi
Very underwhelmed by his play so far, plus probable Rodemy busser. Still waiting to be amazed three days later.
Finally, somebody actually decided to deal with it, rather than just go on this weird off putting rampage. How was it bussy? I voted Rodemy for an extremely legitimite reason - He gave up on defending. If there's one thing I would do as town, it's if I'm about to be lynched it's do as much work as I can. Rodemy didn't. This was not a bus - you need to find the reasons for voting to do vote analysis correctly mateeeey~~~
Can't amaze you if you don't start targeting me. This is how I RUMBLEEEE~ Come at me, come at me. Show me what you got. Tell me how scummy I am, tell me how nothing I do can be towny. Let's find it~ Let's find the final countdown. Gut town reads explained like that could be scummy~ Pocketing due to having the info as scum~
My play is designed to be underwhelming
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
Offering up your life in exchange for Riku's reads as a manipulation play rather than something that could actually help town.
And I think Highroller, for all his flavor noise, has a point about Rhand dying making you look better.
Your moms snarky and that's a fair thing. If that's it then yeah I've read it I was just hoping for something more... substantial.
Can you just behave like this so I can start town reading you thanks. I think my biggest problem and why I've been aggressive is that I feel like you have been phoning it in this game. Thoughts on that? I actually have some updated thoughts on that, but I want to see your own opinions on this first.
Off wagon it's pretty much just DV (r. elijah) or EtR. I have a gut town read on EtR that I can't really explain properly, so it's either DV or all of Rod's partners are on him. I guess you could say it's me if you want to, but I know it isn't, so.
Literally right back at you. Tom has the same gut read too lul.
I did the Rodemy iso but he spent basically the entire time he was playing talking about tom and Highroller to the exclusion of everyone else. He barely even reacted to other players mentioning him. Pretty sure they're both spewed; both progressions are pretty weird and not really partner/partner.
The rest of the post was looking at the evolution of the Rodemy wagon from 1.4 to EoD. Had bunches of colored wagons and stuff, but I'm out of time so I'll just give you the EoD wagon and quick highlights from the evolution of it.
Vaimes left the Rodemy wagon once Rodemy got some traction, then came back for the hammer.
Ruma and Tubba both joined the wagon pretty late, and with pretty weak votes.
If there's a busser on Rodemy (and there almost certainly is at least one) it's probably one of them. Second busser could be Vezok, I suppose?
Off wagon it's pretty much just DV (r. elijah) or EtR. I have a gut town read on EtR that I can't really explain properly, so it's either DV or all of Rod's partners are on him. I guess you could say it's me if you want to, but I know it isn't, so.
Vote: Rumanshi
Very underwhelmed by his play so far, plus probable Rodemy busser. Still waiting to be amazed three days later.
i mean not that i disagree theres few worlds where rod didny get bussed but
D_V isn't responding to my attacks, instead choosing to say I am clearly "incompetent". For reasons that are not even valid. In addition, D_V found a problem with my analogy, rather than finding a problem with my attacks. This is a pretty obvious scum play.
D_V isn't responding to my attacks, instead choosing to say I am clearly "incompetent". For reasons that are not even valid. In addition, D_V found a problem with my analogy, rather than finding a problem with my attacks. This is a pretty obvious scum play.
What attacks? All you've done is make statements about the game that make no sense. I've explained why.
I'm unsure if you are scum or just bad at the game. With how you bungled your claim and how you've taken meta that makes no sense in this game I might go with incompetent over scummy.
Offering up your life in exchange for Riku's reads as a manipulation play rather than something that could actually help town.
And I think Highroller, for all his flavor noise, has a point about Rhand dying making you look better.
Your moms snarky and that's a fair thing. If that's it then yeah I've read it I was just hoping for something more... substantial.
Can you just behave like this so I can start town reading you thanks. I think my biggest problem and why I've been aggressive is that I feel like you have been phoning it in this game. Thoughts on that? I actually have some updated thoughts on that, but I want to see your own opinions on this first.
That's a weird line of questioning, but yeah, I agree. December kind of broke me and I haven't really gotten my groove back for two-week Day phases. It's way too easy to prioritize other things.
Finally, somebody actually decided to deal with it, rather than just go on this weird off putting rampage. How was it bussy? I voted Rodemy for an extremely legitimite reason - He gave up on defending. If there's one thing I would do as town, it's if I'm about to be lynched it's do as much work as I can. Rodemy didn't. This was not a bus - you need to find the reasons for voting to do vote analysis correctly mateeeey~~~
Can't amaze you if you don't start targeting me. This is how I RUMBLEEEE~ Come at me, come at me. Show me what you got. Tell me how scummy I am, tell me how nothing I do can be towny. Let's find it~ Let's find the final countdown. Gut town reads explained like that could be scummy~ Pocketing due to having the info as scum~
My play is designed to be underwhelming
Please just tell us what it is you have to share already. You are actively making this game more difficult than it needs to be, and at some point I'm just going to decide you're scum openly trolling us.
[quote from="Rumanshi »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/801746-ghostbusters-mafia-day-3-he-was-the-keymaster?comment=1562"]Finally, somebody actually decided to deal with it, rather than just go on this weird off putting rampage. How was it bussy? I voted Rodemy for an extremely legitimite reason - He gave up on defending. If there's one thing I would do as town, it's if I'm about to be lynched it's do as much work as I can. Rodemy didn't. This was not a bus - you need to find the reasons for voting to do vote analysis correctly mateeeey~~~
Can't amaze you if you don't start targeting me. This is how I RUMBLEEEE~ Come at me, come at me. Show me what you got. Tell me how scummy I am, tell me how nothing I do can be towny. Let's find it~ Let's find the final countdown. Gut town reads explained like that could be scummy~ Pocketing due to having the info as scum~
My play is designed to be underwhelming
Please just tell us what it is you have to share already. You are actively making this game more difficult than it needs to be, and at some point I'm just going to decide you're scum openly trolling us.[/quote
actually, I was [i]inactively[i] making it harder, but I get your point.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
Offering up your life in exchange for Riku's reads as a manipulation play rather than something that could actually help town.
And I think Highroller, for all his flavor noise, has a point about Rhand dying making you look better.
Your moms snarky and that's a fair thing. If that's it then yeah I've read it I was just hoping for something more... substantial.
Can you just behave like this so I can start town reading you thanks. I think my biggest problem and why I've been aggressive is that I feel like you have been phoning it in this game. Thoughts on that? I actually have some updated thoughts on that, but I want to see your own opinions on this first.
That's a weird line of questioning, but yeah, I agree. December kind of broke me and I haven't really gotten my groove back for two-week Day phases. It's way too easy to prioritize other things.
I know that's bad. I'm working on it.
Do you think other player participation has affected this as well? Personally, I was going back over this game and I was like overall I don't think I've done THAT much either, and suddenly I was like hmmm. I think a lot of non lurking content is really problematical.
If its not Rumma and its not Vaimes and if I'm like not 100% on zdstd. IDK who the **** the scum team is.
Its like silver and.... ????
I've actively decided that it has to be two scum one neutral left. It could be three scum one neutral as well, but **** finding a third scum right now. Cross that road after two scum flips and a neutral flip doesn't win it for the town.
KA is neutral or scum. So that makes this slightly easier I guess.
Does it almost have to be zdstd? I'm not heavily town reading Tubba or EtR, but I'm also not seeing much in the way of scum pings from them. Zdstd just seems to want to argue on myopic points and seems hell bent to say I'm ignoring their arguments when I'm not. Actually I have no clue what their opinions are on anyone else. I guess they don't think Ruma is scum? Because they decided that no lynching was better than voting Ruma.
If Tom is scum he's playing out of his mind at this point. Or REALLY REALLY long conning me. HR probs isn't scum.
Zdstd just seems to want to argue on myopic points and seems hell bent to say I'm ignoring their arguments when I'm not. Actually I have no clue what their opinions are on anyone else. I guess they don't think Ruma is scum? Because they decided that no lynching was better than voting Ruma.
wh
what.
you did that.
Zdtsd was voting riku until you drew them into an argument. You're the reason we had a NL, not zdtsd.
...although if you're both scum and you pulled off that argument, just, bravo.
Zdstd just seems to want to argue on myopic points and seems hell bent to say I'm ignoring their arguments when I'm not. Actually I have no clue what their opinions are on anyone else. I guess they don't think Ruma is scum? Because they decided that no lynching was better than voting Ruma.
wh
what.
you did that.
Zdtsd was voting riku until you drew them into an argument. You're the reason we had a NL, not zdtsd.
...although if you're both scum and you pulled off that argument, just, bravo.
Yo z put your vote where your mouth is or whatever
Or dont your call
I really want to, but I am afraid it will just end up killing me.
Huh. D_V COMPLETELY ignored my last post.
I will respond to recent posts with quotes from my and D_V's posts.
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HEY.
I asked you to point to where in the game I was a viable lynch.
I'll do it one more time.
OMG.
So the viability thing is a problem.
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That might have been a time I was a viable lynch, but the moment he swapped off me ONTO your wagon WHICH IS WHEN YOU MADE THE ATTACK, I no longer was viable today at all.
Contradiction much? This implies you know you were at some point viable.
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You are arguing that there was three viable lynches, but you are arguing that at the point where Riku swapped to you. So, from when you are trying to say that there was three viable lynches there was only two viable lynches.
I have no quote saying "Huh? I don't know what you mean", but I have no clue what this means.
And the rest of that post is already answered in answers to other parts of if.
Also,
I'm 100% acknowledging what you are saying. You seem to not understand what you yourself are saying at all.
That must be it! OK so I think I figured it out:
I am saying that D_V is scum because I don't think D_V is scum but I do think that I am saying D_V is not scum but I am accidentally messing up the meanings of the words "scum" and "town"!
Thanks for the clarification on how I don't know what I am saying. I guess I should convey the message that D_V is town better, Vote D_V. I really hope that gets my point across.
My reason for voting D_V is that I forgot that there is no deadline hang here, so I don't need to be worried about dying due to that.
I reread that day before making that post, thanks. To make sure I wasn't taking crazy pills.
That post, in which zdtsd switches to you, is after you had an extended back-and-forth. In MMO terms, you clearly drew aggro. It is implausible that, after that back and forth, you really make that particular musing.
I reread that day before making that post, thanks. To make sure I wasn't taking crazy pills.
That post, in which zdtsd switches to you, is after you had an extended back-and-forth. In MMO terms, you clearly drew aggro. It is implausible that, after that back and forth, you really make that particular musing.
Yes but it very much was a decision to be fine with a no lynch. They recognize that I'm not a lynch able target and vote me anyways. I'm not blaming them for the NL, I'm saying they were fine with a NL.
I think this is the best place for my vote. I had FUWA as scum, and Zdtsd hasn't changed that. Reading through dead town has not helped me clarify anything in my head as no one had any super strong reads.
This part of your reads make no sense. You have all the usual suspects plus me and DV.
Why do you think silvercrys is less scummy than me or dv?
How KA the almost outright claimed neutral is above that many players is beyond me as well.
ETR can you explain your reads at all?
Well, I'm here to hunt scum not third parties right now, so I'm not sure what you want there? All of my reads are explained in my posts if you read them. I feel like I've been pretty clear but if not let me know. I had RE as slightly scummy and Silver hasn't done much to change that. He is certainly not a high priority for me.
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I’d like to hear more on your D_V read. I’m waffling there as I think the flip would reveal a fair bit about the game, flavour wise, role and power wise. That said, I can’t point to anything outright scummy. Thoughts?
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Tubba kinda think is town. Still a weak read.
EtR kinda dropped off a fair amount.
Riku is uh. Still super UTR?
I’ll probably vote Silver.
That's cool man what are you reasons for scum reading me again?
I'll keep asking till you answer that one.
But I’m thinking on it some more.
Can you uhh quote that please then?
Cause I don't think you have.
I did the Rodemy iso but he spent basically the entire time he was playing talking about tom and Highroller to the exclusion of everyone else. He barely even reacted to other players mentioning him. Pretty sure they're both spewed; both progressions are pretty weird and not really partner/partner.
The rest of the post was looking at the evolution of the Rodemy wagon from 1.4 to EoD. Had bunches of colored wagons and stuff, but I'm out of time so I'll just give you the EoD wagon and quick highlights from the evolution of it.
EoD 1 Votecount
Rodemy(9): Highroller, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, Rumanshi, Tubba Fett, tomsloger,Grapefruit21, Vaimestomsloger (1):
Atogaholicelijah (1): RE1031
Fuwa (2): EtR, elijah
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry(1): FuwaKamikazeArchon (2):
Rhand,TheRealStinkyJoeTerryNot Voting (1):
RodemyVaimes left the Rodemy wagon once Rodemy got some traction, then came back for the hammer.
Ruma and Tubba both joined the wagon pretty late, and with pretty weak votes.
If there's a busser on Rodemy (and there almost certainly is at least one) it's probably one of them. Second busser could be Vezok, I suppose?
Off wagon it's pretty much just DV (r. elijah) or EtR. I have a gut town read on EtR that I can't really explain properly, so it's either DV or all of Rod's partners are on him. I guess you could say it's me if you want to, but I know it isn't, so.
Vote: Rumanshi
Very underwhelmed by his play so far, plus probable Rodemy busser. Still waiting to be amazed three days later.
Can't amaze you if you don't start targeting me. This is how I RUMBLEEEE~ Come at me, come at me. Show me what you got. Tell me how scummy I am, tell me how nothing I do can be towny. Let's find it~ Let's find the final countdown. Gut town reads explained like that could be scummy~ Pocketing due to having the info as scum~
My play is designed to be underwhelming
Your moms snarky and that's a fair thing. If that's it then yeah I've read it I was just hoping for something more... substantial.
Can you just behave like this so I can start town reading you thanks. I think my biggest problem and why I've been aggressive is that I feel like you have been phoning it in this game. Thoughts on that? I actually have some updated thoughts on that, but I want to see your own opinions on this first.
Literally right back at you. Tom has the same gut read too lul.
How are you eliminating fuwa slot?
How likely do you think multiple bussers?
Anyone else notice what D_V did there?
D_V isn't responding to my attacks, instead choosing to say I am clearly "incompetent". For reasons that are not even valid. In addition, D_V found a problem with my analogy, rather than finding a problem with my attacks. This is a pretty obvious scum play.
Deal with it.
What attacks? All you've done is make statements about the game that make no sense. I've explained why.
I'm unsure if you are scum or just bad at the game. With how you bungled your claim and how you've taken meta that makes no sense in this game I might go with incompetent over scummy.
I know that's bad. I'm working on it.
actually, I was [i]inactively[i] making it harder, but I get your point.
Do you think other player participation has affected this as well? Personally, I was going back over this game and I was like overall I don't think I've done THAT much either, and suddenly I was like hmmm. I think a lot of non lurking content is really problematical.
I'll love you forever if it's something that proves someone's alignment. I can't remember if you claimed VT at some point.
I did claim VT. But reaction gauging is fun. I have a dark theory that D_V and ztsd are always aligned as either town / town or scum / scum.
If its not Rumma and its not Vaimes and if I'm like not 100% on zdstd. IDK who the **** the scum team is.
Its like silver and.... ????
I've actively decided that it has to be two scum one neutral left. It could be three scum one neutral as well, but **** finding a third scum right now. Cross that road after two scum flips and a neutral flip doesn't win it for the town.
KA is neutral or scum. So that makes this slightly easier I guess.
Does it almost have to be zdstd? I'm not heavily town reading Tubba or EtR, but I'm also not seeing much in the way of scum pings from them. Zdstd just seems to want to argue on myopic points and seems hell bent to say I'm ignoring their arguments when I'm not. Actually I have no clue what their opinions are on anyone else. I guess they don't think Ruma is scum? Because they decided that no lynching was better than voting Ruma.
If Tom is scum he's playing out of his mind at this point. Or REALLY REALLY long conning me. HR probs isn't scum.
what.
you did that.
Zdtsd was voting riku until you drew them into an argument. You're the reason we had a NL, not zdtsd.
...although if you're both scum and you pulled off that argument, just, bravo.
Pretty sure he does cocoon people and it protects from ghostbuster kill and probably does the delay thing too
Also dont think it makes any sense for fuwa to have targeted highroller anyway grape and vaimes were his only townreads
Would be pretty shocked if the slot isnt scum.
And it probably clears DV
You should go back and reread the day.
Here let me help you.
That post, in which zdtsd switches to you, is after you had an extended back-and-forth. In MMO terms, you clearly drew aggro. It is implausible that, after that back and forth, you really make that particular musing.
DV - does this have anything to do with your role? I've thought that it could be a breadcrumb of some sort.
Yes but it very much was a decision to be fine with a no lynch. They recognize that I'm not a lynch able target and vote me anyways. I'm not blaming them for the NL, I'm saying they were fine with a NL.
Zero idea.
How can I make this any clearer. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying he by voting me when he did was ok with a NL.
That's all.
I think this is the best place for my vote. I had FUWA as scum, and Zdtsd hasn't changed that. Reading through dead town has not helped me clarify anything in my head as no one had any super strong reads.
Reads List (town at the top)
EtR
tomsloger
Vaimes
Highroller
KamikazeArchon
Tubba Fett
Rumanshi
Silvercrys3467
vezokpiraka
D_V
zdtsd
This part of your reads make no sense. You have all the usual suspects plus me and DV.
Why do you think silvercrys is less scummy than me or dv?
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How KA the almost outright claimed neutral is above that many players is beyond me as well.
ETR can you explain your reads at all?
vaimes
tubba/vez
kami/dv
silver/ruma
zdst
Manipulating my usual color system to make kami green lol.
Him and dv something like a null line
Well, I'm here to hunt scum not third parties right now, so I'm not sure what you want there? All of my reads are explained in my posts if you read them. I feel like I've been pretty clear but if not let me know. I had RE as slightly scummy and Silver hasn't done much to change that. He is certainly not a high priority for me.
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Votecount 3.2
D_V (4): Highroller, KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, zdtsd
zdtsd (3): D_V, tomsloger, EtR
Silvercrys3467 (1): vezokpiraka
Rumanshi (1): Silvercrys3467
Not Voting (2): Rumanshi, Tubba Fett
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!
Day 3 deadline is at 8:00am MST, on Friday, January 18th. Countdown Clock
I’d like to hear more on your D_V read. I’m waffling there as I think the flip would reveal a fair bit about the game, flavour wise, role and power wise. That said, I can’t point to anything outright scummy. Thoughts?
Because the people voting me can't really point to anything. Its a farce case. Vez is scummy because?