I was trying to come up with something quippy for under that quote. Trying to figure out how to extend the 60 minutes joke. But the accidental post was a good thing as I'll just say what I mean; I can both think Rodemy is scum (and never waiver on the belief that the way he cleared tom on page 1 is scummy) but be confused about the combination of defeatism and lack of counterwagon.
No, you can't. You can't be confident someone is mafia and then say that you have no doubt that he's mafia but wonder whether or not you're wrong. Wondering whether or not you're wrong is DOUBT.
Also, FFS, are you trying to take up every possible position one can have on this game because you have a bingo board somewhere, or is it like a personal challenge, see how much you can get?
Decided to do a top of head town/scum list with no research. I'm not happy with it but it's where I'm at. Too many leans each way. Too much gut.
Town
Grapefruit21
I feel like putting Rodemy at L-1. Any objections?
You were just talking about your Rodemy townread. What changed?
My view on him. He’s not doing anything, avoiding interactions, not voting.
It seems like he’s trying not to leave a legacy.
That's exactly what I've been saying about him for pages now, and you said it was a weak case and that I was bandwagon-voting. Now suddenly you want to vote him with the same reasoning?
This feels like Rhand tried and failed to deflect from his scumbuddy and is belatedly getting on the wagon seeking town cred.
Dude I never said those things. You must be talking about trsjt.
That ETR post is so town it hurts me deep in my wolfy soul. Regardless of rod flip.
If rod scum, joe prolly his buddy. Fuwa/vaimes also possible
If hes somehow town... rhand/kami/vez need serious scrutiny
Never lynch highroller/etr
Assume everyone else means nothing to me
What are you're thoughts on Vaimes? I'm reading him pretty townie.
ok so fun story a game happened on DLP entirely during this day 1 and i led the day 1 lynch of scumvaimes.
This is nothing like that hes not lock scum by any means hes maybe even [slightly townie for busy!vaimes]
But basically the world where he is scum hes scum with rod and if he isnt he needs to get off his ass and show it tomorrow
Not Voting (6): Atogaholic, EtR, Highroller, Rhand, RE1031, Rumanshi
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That's a lynch! It is now twilight while a lynch scene is prepared. You may continue to post and vote for the Form of Gozer as desired until the Day ends.
The sixteen entities had gone about their sudden entrapment with surprisingly straightforward democracy. Sensing that those responsible for killing Walter Peck were among them, they set out to suss out the villains. Almost immediately, suspicion fell upon one that self-identified as "Rodemy". Intent was a tangible force here, and each subsequent accusation applied pressure upon Rodemy, muddying his thought process until he couldn't even make sense of who he was, much less what he was trying to accomplish.
Taking his lack of contribution to be proof of his guilt, the group came to a consensus: Rodemy must be ended. As the final decision was made, the entity known as "Rodemy" burst into a sudden flare of light. The onlookers saw an old, grizzled man, bald, with a long white mustache and goatee. Flashes of scenes appeared in the light: the old man cackling madly while sketching out a blueprint; the old man watching as construction workers risked their lives building a skyscraper in early 1900's New York City; a ceremony of black hooded figures, presided over by the old man. The imagery ended with a shutter-flash of ritualistic killings, the old man grinning maniacally as he dripped with blood. Finally the light died out, leaving nothing but a wisp of ectoplasmic mist that evaporated into the surrounding clouds.
Rodemy has been killed; he was:
Ivo Shandor, Mafia Architect
As the remainder dispersed to mull this development over, Atogaholic also burst into blazing fire. Several visions of a girl, pretty but seemingly somewhat gullible, played before those still assembled.
Atogaholic has been modkilled; he was:
Female ESP Student, Town Vanilla
Night 1 actions are due 48 hours from this post, at 2:45pm, MST, on Saturday December 15th: Countdown to N1 Action Submission Deadline. After that, there will be a slight extension of Night for disseminating results and information, with D2 planned to start the evening of December 15th, MST.
Please PM me if there are any questions; no posting in this thread until D2 starts.
With two of your number depleted, you each took some time to yourself. At some point, the clouds darkened and became thick, like fog. Taking this to be akin to nighttime, you rested, even if sleep didn't actually seem to occur. Just as you were wondering if the thicker dark environs were to become the norm, a sudden flash lit up the area and a vision of a somewhat gaunt face was projected into the air. The man was an incredible scientist, always going on about his collection of spores, molds, and fungii. You see him tinkering, experimenting, building a muon trap, the proton packs, even building the very containment unit you are currently trapped in. His visage, with thick glasses and an easy--if somewhat infrequent--smile, lights up the entire space around you...and then fades away into glittering dust that disperses among the clouds.
Grapefruit21 has died; he was:
Egon Spengler, Town Ghostbuster
It is now Day 2. With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
As a slight modification to the rules, Days will last two weeks (give or take, depending on life circumstances) until further notice, with shorter Days being likely as the number of players decreases. Please PM me if you have any questions or concerns about this change. With that in mind, the Day 2 deadline is set to 8:00pm, MST, on Saturday, December 29th. Here's a countdown clock.
You may now post in the thread, but please be sure to check your PMs before doing so.
Full roleclaim time. Each of the Ghostbusters possesses a day kill ability that requires two of them targeting someone. This couldn’t be used on the first day, only from day two onward. It can also only be used once per day. I didn’t claim this initially because I was reluctant to claim another person’s role for them, and also because holding back information was worth it to test anyone else if they wanted to claim a power role.
So here’s the plan: when someone gets to 5 votes, no one else vote that person. By all means express your desire to vote them but refrain from doing so. I and whoever else wants to step forward will use our daykill ability. This will give the town two lynches. We should be able to take out at least one mafia tonight. If you're asking why 5 votes, because if we let it get to 6, and that person is mafia, they could hammer vote themselves and cut the mafia's losses.
With Grapefruit dead, I don't see any reason for all of the remaining Ghostbusters to not claim now.
Other observations:
1. Based on Rodemy’s fake claim, we should assume that the mafia have been given fake claims by the mod. I don’t believe Rodemy came up with that one on his own (although he could have googled or IMDBed it)
2. However, the mafia do have themed roles that are in keeping with the flavor of Ghostbusters. I continue to maintain a mass claim would be in the town's best interests.
3. Gozer is clearly related to the mafia, it's unclear to what extent.
Will create a longer post about the previous day after I've slept. Meantime, vote Vaimes
Alright so my ability got delayed until the end of the day. So, that sucks.
I'd hold off on mass claiming since reasons and reasons.
I was starting to work on a list but stopped deciding I might be the night kill.
Town
Tom – Rodemy latched onto weak reasons to town read Tom. Most of what Tom hs said has seemed town to me.
Grape- - Early Rodemy push and his logic has been pretty decent to me. Slight sort of scum tells for hand holding Re on not town reading him for doing some behavior
Scum
Vaimes – Weird interactions with Rodemy that seemed light-hearted fun, but read as forced interactions to me.
General Thoughts the mafia have no clue what the gozer thing is.
I'm willing to add highroller to probably town based off that post alone.
Ruma and Terry both seemed pretty town to me too with my skim read, but I don't have anything specific to point to.
I'm flying tomorrow so I might not be back for like two days.
Will review Vaimes. I don't remember having a strong ping on him.
D1 basically clears Highroller. Highroller, as far as I can tell, the Gozer vote hasn't done anything so far. Why do you think it's Mafia? D_V, why do you think it's *not* Mafia?
The "double-lynch" plan seems fine. If it's once per day, that implies reusable, is that correct? Seems powerful.
I dunno what to call that. Opposite of a Janitor? But it probably warrants a tentative clear.
And yeah, I read your list and didn’t finish the rest of the post before snap voting. Obviously not reading things isn’t alignment indicative, Mr. I Think The Flipped Townie Might Be Town.
I have three votes already and probably won’t have time to deal with pressure for most of D2. I’m also a Ghostbuster. Winston Zeddemore.
Highroller is the clearest person alive so he can keep running the show for now.
I do think it’s ~possible that one of the Ghostbusters is scum. Which means it would most likely (from my POV) be tom > Highroller, with Grape flipping town Ghostbuster.
We could just as easily all be town. I’m town, and I don’t think either of them are scum.
I'm going to tell you right now this game is not flavor breakable.
Erm, what?
Gozer is present in the game. Ivo Shandor was a person who was trying to bring Gozer forth. Ivo Shandor is mafia. The mafia is aligned with Gozer. This is not difficult.
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Also, FFS, are you trying to take up every possible position one can have on this game because you have a bingo board somewhere, or is it like a personal challenge, see how much you can get?
There is no way in hell Vaimes is above Atogaholic.
If rod scum, joe prolly his buddy. Fuwa/vaimes also possible
If hes somehow town... rhand/kami/vez need serious scrutiny
Never lynch highroller/etr
Assume everyone else means nothing to me
Dude I never said those things. You must be talking about trsjt.
You're not 100% wrong but you're like 75% wrong.
I think this vez post is his wolfy town game.
And I'm going to keep town reading Vaimes.
Highroller was the target of the incomprehensible half.
What are you're thoughts on Vaimes? I'm reading him pretty townie.
Plus, there's the off-chance we might need all four Ghostbusters to stop Gozer.
Please don't telegraph power roles.
So this is it. What's the truth?
This is nothing like that hes not lock scum by any means hes maybe even [slightly townie for busy!vaimes]
But basically the world where he is scum hes scum with rod and if he isnt he needs to get off his ass and show it tomorrow
tomsloger (1): Atogaholic
Rodemy (9): Highroller, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, Rumanshi, Tubba Fett, tomsloger, Grapefruit21, Vaimes
elijah (1): RE1031
Fuwa (2): EtR, elijah
KamikazeArchon (2): Rhand, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Not Voting (1): Rodemy
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
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The Form of Gozer
Traveler (2): Vaimes, Fuwa
Gozerian (6): vezokpiraka, Grapefruit21, Tubba Fett, elijah, KamikazeArchon, Rodemy
Destructor (2): tomsloger, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Not Voting (6): Atogaholic, EtR, Highroller, Rhand, RE1031, Rumanshi
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That's a lynch! It is now twilight while a lynch scene is prepared. You may continue to post and vote for the Form of Gozer as desired until the Day ends.
blehhhhhhh
I’ll get off my ass in 2019. Please direct all complaints to your backsides in the meantime.
No one target Highroller; he is now a liability because potential Watcher.
The sixteen entities had gone about their sudden entrapment with surprisingly straightforward democracy. Sensing that those responsible for killing Walter Peck were among them, they set out to suss out the villains. Almost immediately, suspicion fell upon one that self-identified as "Rodemy". Intent was a tangible force here, and each subsequent accusation applied pressure upon Rodemy, muddying his thought process until he couldn't even make sense of who he was, much less what he was trying to accomplish.
Taking his lack of contribution to be proof of his guilt, the group came to a consensus: Rodemy must be ended. As the final decision was made, the entity known as "Rodemy" burst into a sudden flare of light. The onlookers saw an old, grizzled man, bald, with a long white mustache and goatee. Flashes of scenes appeared in the light: the old man cackling madly while sketching out a blueprint; the old man watching as construction workers risked their lives building a skyscraper in early 1900's New York City; a ceremony of black hooded figures, presided over by the old man. The imagery ended with a shutter-flash of ritualistic killings, the old man grinning maniacally as he dripped with blood. Finally the light died out, leaving nothing but a wisp of ectoplasmic mist that evaporated into the surrounding clouds.
Rodemy has been killed; he was:
Atogaholic has been modkilled; he was:
Please PM me if there are any questions; no posting in this thread until D2 starts.
Grapefruit21 has died; he was:
It is now Day 2. With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
As a slight modification to the rules, Days will last two weeks (give or take, depending on life circumstances) until further notice, with shorter Days being likely as the number of players decreases. Please PM me if you have any questions or concerns about this change. With that in mind, the Day 2 deadline is set to 8:00pm, MST, on Saturday, December 29th. Here's a countdown clock.
You may now post in the thread, but please be sure to check your PMs before doing so.
Full roleclaim time. Each of the Ghostbusters possesses a day kill ability that requires two of them targeting someone. This couldn’t be used on the first day, only from day two onward. It can also only be used once per day. I didn’t claim this initially because I was reluctant to claim another person’s role for them, and also because holding back information was worth it to test anyone else if they wanted to claim a power role.
So here’s the plan: when someone gets to 5 votes, no one else vote that person. By all means express your desire to vote them but refrain from doing so. I and whoever else wants to step forward will use our daykill ability. This will give the town two lynches. We should be able to take out at least one mafia tonight. If you're asking why 5 votes, because if we let it get to 6, and that person is mafia, they could hammer vote themselves and cut the mafia's losses.
With Grapefruit dead, I don't see any reason for all of the remaining Ghostbusters to not claim now.
Other observations:
1. Based on Rodemy’s fake claim, we should assume that the mafia have been given fake claims by the mod. I don’t believe Rodemy came up with that one on his own (although he could have googled or IMDBed it)
2. However, the mafia do have themed roles that are in keeping with the flavor of Ghostbusters. I continue to maintain a mass claim would be in the town's best interests.
3. Gozer is clearly related to the mafia, it's unclear to what extent.
Will create a longer post about the previous day after I've slept. Meantime, vote Vaimes
Hi highroller...
Rip grape, etc
I'd hold off on mass claiming since reasons and reasons.
I was starting to work on a list but stopped deciding I might be the night kill.
Town
Tom – Rodemy latched onto weak reasons to town read Tom. Most of what Tom hs said has seemed town to me.
Grape- - Early Rodemy push and his logic has been pretty decent to me. Slight sort of scum tells for hand holding Re on not town reading him for doing some behavior
Scum
Vaimes – Weird interactions with Rodemy that seemed light-hearted fun, but read as forced interactions to me.
General Thoughts the mafia have no clue what the gozer thing is.
I'm willing to add highroller to probably town based off that post alone.
Ruma and Terry both seemed pretty town to me too with my skim read, but I don't have anything specific to point to.
I'm flying tomorrow so I might not be back for like two days.
Oh also Re has pinged me as scummy.
Let me think on what to claim here.
@Ghostbusters don't off him yet.
Will review Vaimes. I don't remember having a strong ping on him.
D1 basically clears Highroller. Highroller, as far as I can tell, the Gozer vote hasn't done anything so far. Why do you think it's Mafia? D_V, why do you think it's *not* Mafia?
The "double-lynch" plan seems fine. If it's once per day, that implies reusable, is that correct? Seems powerful.
Google it.
I'm going to tell you right now this game is not flavor breakable.
But this is + town points reasoning I think. I need to think a lot on this though.
>one on the NK
Vote DV
See you all on Monday.
Also I put in my two weeks so I’ll definitely be free in the new year.
just cause.
Nice....
Except there was more than three reads on there. You read that whole post or you just playin?
Vote Vaimes
Choo Choo
Vez also assumed Gozer was scum. Interesting.
Scum reads highroller for highroller speculating. Not a SK read.
See posts 347 and 349.
Rhand might be scum auto assumes Gozer isn't town.
I used a one shot last night that was supposed to make it happen during the Opening post. It was delayed I don't know the cause.
To be exact my ability revealed all roles and any of the roles killed that night. I figured with a mafia already dead.
I dunno what to call that. Opposite of a Janitor? But it probably warrants a tentative clear.
And yeah, I read your list and didn’t finish the rest of the post before snap voting. Obviously not reading things isn’t alignment indicative, Mr. I Think The Flipped Townie Might Be Town.
I have three votes already and probably won’t have time to deal with pressure for most of D2. I’m also a Ghostbuster. Winston Zeddemore.
Highroller is the clearest person alive so he can keep running the show for now.
We could just as easily all be town. I’m town, and I don’t think either of them are scum.
Gozer is present in the game. Ivo Shandor was a person who was trying to bring Gozer forth. Ivo Shandor is mafia. The mafia is aligned with Gozer. This is not difficult.
What are you talking about?
Sleep time.