I've been thinking about Gozer and I think highroller might be related to him.
I think it's pretty obvious that we are voting for some ability that Gozer will have. We don't know what it is so it's mostly blind guessing. I'm pretty sure all abilities are of similar powerlevel so it doesn't really matter what we vote for.
Highroller insists on having a three way tie. I don't know how you'd solve a three-way tie, but I would solve it by giving the character all three abilities. The other possibility is giving no abilities, but that's almost bastard. Highroller's insistence on getting the three way tie makes me think he is allied with Gozer.
This is on page 7, is this seriously still a topic of discussion or have we moved passed it?
because if it is, Highroller is trying WAY too hard to convince us he isn't a serial character and that is just.. well that is just suspicious.
Ok, so let's break down Rodemy's new strategy to try to lynch me:
I point out that saying that Peter Venkman, one of the unambiguous heroes of the movie Ghostbusters, might be a serial killer based on that one scene in Ghostbusters where he's testing two ESP people with cards is being really silly.
This is apparently me "trying WAY too hard to convince us he isn't a serial character," despite the fact that Tubba Fett himself said this was "an over the top silly way to make a point," and we know this, because it's in the part Rodemy quoted.
So, in other words, Rodemy's argument is, "Highroller's saying that the admitted over-the-top silly argument is silly! He must be a serial killer!"
And yet I'M the one who's trying too hard?
Rodemy, this is sad.
Is THIS still a topic of discussion, holy *****.
What do you mean "Is this still a topic of discussion?" You've never discussed it! You just said, oh dear, I made a bad play, please unvote me. You've never actually stated how it was possible for you to make such an error in the first place, and as for discussion, you've done the opposite of that. You've tried to dismiss and table discussion of your mistake, and then refused to talk about it since.
Do you guys see how he's just trying to sweep all of this under the rug without even bothering to address it?
I've been thinking about Gozer and I think highroller might be related to him.
What.
Highroller insists on having a three way tie. I don't know how you'd solve a three-way tie, but I would solve it by giving the character all three abilities. The other possibility is giving no abilities, but that's almost bastard. Highroller's insistence on getting the three way tie makes me think he is allied with Gozer.
... Dude, this is a reach, and you know it.
The reason why I want a three-way tie is because I like breaking games. Did you not notice that by my repeated insistence on mass claiming? Hell, you've played a game in which I tried the entire time to break the game - successfully I might add - so you should know better.
I know the justification is a bit weak, but highroller pushed for the tie twice. That was my first red flag.
I considered that the mod would just random out one of the abilities then, but why would anyone push for a tie in that situation? Like there still exists the possibility that highroller is just a townie who wants to do it for the luls, but it fits much better as someone who is trying to give all the abilities to himself/ his scumbuddy. Also why a three way tie instead of a two way tie? It would have the same "fun" result, while not having the bad result of giving all three abilities to Gozer.
At the time of writing my post, I had the same reads as tom. I came up with this theory after posting that.
"I admit that this is based on nothing except my own headcanon, so in other words it's based on nothing, yet I am still voting Highroller."
Yeah... I mean, to be fair, this is still better than Rodemy's "He who smelt it, dealt it" argument, but to be fair, a vote with no explanation would be better than that.
Also, wait a minute. What makes you think Gozer will give abilities to a player?
Weirdly as much as I disagree with everything Vez said about Highrollers Gozer plan it makes me feel better about him. I don't think that is something scum would make up to push someone. It's too paranoid.
@Highroller I don't want to go for a 3 way tie because A it's hard to coordinate and more importantly B if there is a strong scum ability to be gained someone might decide it's worth breaking the tie to give their team that ability that night even if it means coming under suspicion.
So my theory is this whole choice is a Morton's fork, especially since they're each of them names for the same entity. It's also in keeping with the lore. Whether Gozer takes the form of a large and moving Torb, a giant Sloar, or a giant version of Mr. Stay Puft, he'll destroy the world either way.
Weirdly as much as I disagree with everything Vez said about Highrollers Gozer plan it makes me feel better about him. I don't think that is something scum would make up to push someone. It's too paranoid.
I thought his partial claim was a good look.
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I dislike your reliance on the town win condition high roller. Make an argument that isn't based on it. Town are just as likely to not read the rules as scum.
Facts! I hadn't read it either. I still haven't. I know how to play so reading the rules is generally pointless unless I believe it's going to be a super complicated game.
I'm inclined to townlean this.
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Okay, I have a plan. I know exactly what to do. Now stay close, stay close. I know. Do exactly as I say. Ready, ready, get her!
I'm actually watching the movie right now so this is hilarious.
And from what I've seen of Peter so far his personality certainly seems psychopathic. I haven't finished, so maybe there is some ~character development~, but Highroller's reaction to the possibility of Peter being serial killer seems over the top.
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So my theory is this whole choice is a Morton's fork, especially since they're each of them names for the same entity. It's also in keeping with the lore. Whether Gozer takes the form of a large and moving Torb, a giant Sloar, or a giant version of Mr. Stay Puft, he'll destroy the world either way.
yes but the particular names have to do something and also I don't know what any of it does, if anything, and want to vote for destructor anyway
I wouldn't be surprised if High was serial killer. His approach to Rodemy - I get the sense he believes what he's saying, but he's extremely tunneled on him and has hardly given the rest of the players any attention. He's committed to securing a lynch, but lacks the town drive to sort the game.
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I'm liking Riku now.
I'm kind of liking Tom, but that's probably a bad idea rn.
@Vaimes
You said earlier that you wanted to unravel Tom/Rodemy, then you said you didn't want to engage with Rodemy, then you voted Rodemy per Grape's request. I'm not getting your progression. Where are you at right now with the game?
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And from what I've seen of Peter so far his personality certainly seems psychopathic. I haven't finished, so maybe there is some ~character development~, but Highroller's reaction to the possibility of Peter being serial killer seems over the top.
Stating facts is an "over the top" reaction? Explain this to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if High was serial killer. His approach to Rodemy - I get the sense he believes what he's saying, but he's extremely tunneled on him and has hardly given the rest of the players any attention. He's committed to securing a lynch, but lacks the town drive to sort the game.
First of all, Rodemy is pretty clearly our most likely mafia suspect. Second, I've been recovering from an illness. To give you an example, I slept for like 15 hours today. I was going to go through and give my reaction to the day's events, but I haven't had the opportunity to.
And from what I've seen of Peter so far his personality certainly seems psychopathic. I haven't finished, so maybe there is some ~character development~, but Highroller's reaction to the possibility of Peter being serial killer seems over the top.
Stating facts is an "over the top" reaction? Explain this to me.
You thought it was completely out of the question that he could be serial killer. Your insistence on flavor gaming only worked in your favor, as had it worked, the accusation that you were SK would be invalidated. What facts? I'm referring to your association between flavor and alignment.
First of all, Rodemy is pretty clearly our most likely mafia suspect. Second, I've been recovering from an illness. To give you an example, I slept for like 15 hours today. I was going to go through and give my reaction to the day's events, but I haven't had the opportunity to.
I can agree with that, but that doesn't counter my point.
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Because destructor sounds killy which I'm in favor of early on. Even if it leads to a mafia controlled kill, better now than later
I am not in favor of potentially giving mafia an extra kill. We don't know that the other options will have to be selected. I'm assuming this is a mafia ability until proven otherwise.
Also I've got a crazy theory I can't wait to talk about till tomorrow.
You thought it was completely out of the question that he could be serial killer.
From a flavor perspective, yes. Venkman's not a serial killer. Ergo, the argument that he is based on scenes in the movie are absurd.
The only reason anyone even thinks I'm a serial killer anyway is because Rodemy posted some asinine argument that said because I proposed that there might be a serial killer in this game, I must be a serial killer. It's a silly argument, and yet now I'm getting people trying to make the square peg fit in the round hole by saying, "Well, maybe Venkman might be a serial killer."
Which is silly. There's no reason, flavorwise, to think that Venkman is a serial killer. Moreover, there's no reason to think that I am.
Now, could the mod have chosen to go completely against flavor? It's entirely possible, but...
Your insistence on flavor gaming only worked in your favor, as had it worked, the accusation that you were SK would be invalidated. What facts? I'm referring to your association between flavor and alignment.
Here's the thing about flavor and alignment: why are we assuming Gozer's a bad thing?
Maybe Gozer's a great thing. Maybe Gozer wants to destroy the mafia. Maybe the Ghostbusters are the bad guys and Gozer wants to destroy them so that means he's the good guy. Or maybe Gozer doesn't want to really destroy or kill anyone, he just wants to bring good times and friendship. Maybe the thing Gozer the Destroyer really wants to destroy is the walls we build around our hearts to keep love out.
Except that's dumb and stupid. Gozer is terrifying. He's evil and scary and lays waste to worlds. His name is the Destroyer. He's clearly bad news and definitely something we should regard as a threat.
But here's the thing: how do we know that? What are we basing it on?
Oh, is it flavor? Is it based on our knowledge of the movie?
Yeah, so while I think it's fine to say that we shouldn't 100% trust the movie to be a perfect roadmap, I don't think we should throw it out either. Likewise, there's a difference between "I'm Peter Venkman, therefore I am 100% confirmed to be town" versus "I'm Peter Venkman, which is not irrelevant to the probability of me being a good guy and not a serial killer."
What about Highroller doesn't seem earnest to you?[/quote]I think I had a block on him the first time because of the mass claim thing. Upon re-reading, his pushes on Rodemy feels townish. Like he believe he caught scum and so wouldn't let it go.
@Fuwa so you’re assumption is TRSJT is throwing shade by claiming a serial killer? Multiple people have done that this game? Is that your only justification for voting him? Your catch up post didn’t include anything about him.
As far as your question, I’m leaning derpy town for Rodemy. Beside the win condition thing I don’t have any concerns with his play.
You, on the other hand, come in, quote 4 posts and vote someone with little to no justification.
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Terry's #137 smells awfully like a shade.
It is shade, but that's not what's suspicious about Terry.
Terry's suspicious because he's being lurky, quiet, and self-deprecating. Which is not Terry. Terry is loud, bombastic, braggadocious, and triple posts routinely. It's like Terry's doing everything he can to try to stay in the background and avoid everyone's attention, which is the exact opposite of his normal behavior.
Here's the thing about flavor and alignment: why are we assuming Gozer's a bad thing?
Um, I'm not. And you shouldn't either. You should be cautious about it, as you should be with any uncertain thing, but you shouldn't actually discard the possibility that it's a neutral or good thing.
I assume Gozer is a bad thing, because the claims we have until now seem to point to the fact that ghostbusters are the good guys and the ghosts are the bad guys. Of course there might be some curveballs, but I operate under this assumption.
I said that I think that this grants an ability to a player as I assumed Gozer is a player in the game, but now that someone pointed it out I guess it could be a global effect, but I assume it's still going to be bad. I don't really see what else it could be outside of mafia/sk gaining an ability or a passive debuff.
Anyway highroller makes a great point about terry. I also think my theory was dumb and highroller's response has been nothing, but +town.
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I'm hesitant about Terry because he's proven himself to be loud as scum (Unreliable Cops), so his lack of presence seems NAI to me.
@Fuwa
I found the way High went about his mass claim proposal not really well thought out. I could be wrong and maybe tomorrow there will be a good explanation for it, but it was disorganized and when asked to explain the benefits mechanically he failed to provide an adequate answer. I don't think he's mafia though.
Elijah's honesty and nonchalant attitude feel townie but I don't know where he's pulling most of his reads out of. If tone is the towniest thing about someone, I'd argue that's a bad sign. He seems comfortable with the game state for someone who admitted his scumread wasn't great.
Why those two? Did you miss the posts where I explain why?
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Weirdly as much as I disagree with everything Vez said about Highrollers Gozer plan it makes me feel better about him. I don't think that is something scum would make up to push someone. It's too paranoid.
Weirdly as much as I disagree with everything Vez said about Highrollers Gozer plan it makes me feel better about him. I don't think that is something scum would make up to push someone. It's too paranoid.
Weirdly as much as I disagree with everything Vez said about Highrollers Gozer plan it makes me feel better about him. I don't think that is something scum would make up to push someone. It's too paranoid.
I thought his partial claim was a good look.
Who's partial claim?
Vez's - claimed that knowing flavor and role would help his ability, but flavor by itself would do, something like that. Now he'll be held accountable for it. Definitely enough incentive to leave him alone for now.
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I'm liking Riku now.
I'm kind of liking Tom, but that's probably a bad idea rn.
@Vaimes
You said earlier that you wanted to unravel Tom/Rodemy, then you said you didn't want to engage with Rodemy, then you voted Rodemy per Grape's request. I'm not getting your progression. Where are you at right now with the game?
@RE: It's just flavor that would help me directly. Claiming roles would maybe help my role a bit indirectly. If you finish the first movie you'll probably figure out why that's the case seeing as you know my character.
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I assume Gozer is a bad thing, because the claims we have until now seem to point to the fact that ghostbusters are the good guys and the ghosts are the bad guys. Of course there might be some curveballs, but I operate under this assumption.
Hold up. Highroller claimed a ghostbuster. You voted him for being a serial killer. This does not make sense.
again, highroller doesn't want to drop the thing that was explained to him.
I wanted to use him quoting a town win con verbatim and not getting moddkilled as a way to catch him as scum.(I did the same thing with Huntzilla in Big Red Button)
But i realized that is poor play.
Not really seeing much that peaks my interest.
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I wanted to use him quoting a town win con verbatim and not getting moddkilled as a way to catch him as scum.(I did the same thing with Huntzilla in Big Red Button)
But i realized that is poor play.
No, that's not the problem. The problem is you thought I'd posted the town win condition without it having previously been posted before in-game, and despite this, you continued to vote me, despite the fact that by your logic it would confirm me as town. Then, when KamikazeArchon pointed this out to you, you immediately tried to sweep it under the rug and refused to address it, except to say you didn't believe my claim of win condition when that makes no sense.
The issue is not, and never has been, you using the quote to get me modkilled. The issue has always been that you saw me quote the town role PM and your reaction to it.
I assume Gozer is a bad thing, because the claims we have until now seem to point to the fact that ghostbusters are the good guys and the ghosts are the bad guys.
I don't believe that at all. Human and Ecto seem to be distinct categories from Town and Mafia, which implies the possibility of Ecto towns and Human mafia.
If Gozer's the big bad here, this is actually in keeping with the lore, as it would open the door for human mafia in the form of the Keymaster and Gatekeeper. If Ghostbusters 2 is incorporated into this game as well, there's even more room for human mafia.
I wanted to use him quoting a town win con verbatim and not getting moddkilled as a way to catch him as scum.(I did the same thing with Huntzilla in Big Red Button)
Why wouldn't he get modkilled as scum, though? He'd still have to quote it from somewhere. From what I've seen in past games, either town's wincon (or a vanilla rolecard) is revealed in the rules, or scum have access to it. It'd still be quoting from a PM if hypothetically it wasn't in the rules, as you initially thought.
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For the record I dislike the discussion about the modkill thing because the whole discussion necessarily dances around the edge of "angleshooting" and I would rather avoid that territory.
I'm more interested in Vezok's inconsistencies, which are purely in-game. I don't like the explanation that he just happened to change his mind between those posts. This looks to me like he saw Highroller as a softer target and then got spooked off when meeting unexpected resistance (including from people other than Highroller).
I can get behind voting for Vez. Really disliking his particular fishing at the moment on top of the lack of consistency. Will reread his early game later.
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@Highroller
Peter Venkman showed a sadistic side in the beginning of the film, continuously shocking the male test subject during an "experiment" that he didn't seem to take seriously. I think it's unlikely that Venkman could be a killer, I wouldn't rule it out offhand. Im not against claiming, but we're so far off script, I'm not sure how useful it would be.
@EtR #329: I just didn’t think that scum high roller sees a town wincon example in the rules post and tries to gambit like he’s quoting his role PM when he just read it it in the rules post instead. Derp clear.
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What changed between #353 and now? Where are you seeing the rolefishing (at least what changed between his initial claim, and recent further elaboration)?
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Also I finished the movie, and if we are going to be flavor gaming, the correct move would be to vote for none of the abilities (to not think about it at all). Not sure if that's a good idea because flavor could be NAI, and not voting might not give us information as opposed to voting. I'll think about it some more, maybe do a bit more research.
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I assume Gozer is a bad thing, because the claims we have until now seem to point to the fact that ghostbusters are the good guys and the ghosts are the bad guys. Of course there might be some curveballs, but I operate under this assumption.
Hold up. Highroller claimed a ghostbuster. You voted him for being a serial killer. This does not make sense.
Highroller claimed a ghostbuster and my entire case was based on the fact that highroller is Gozer or aligned with Gozer. I hope you can put 2 and 2 together and realise that fakeclaims exist in games like this one.
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I point out that saying that Peter Venkman, one of the unambiguous heroes of the movie Ghostbusters, might be a serial killer based on that one scene in Ghostbusters where he's testing two ESP people with cards is being really silly.
This is apparently me "trying WAY too hard to convince us he isn't a serial character," despite the fact that Tubba Fett himself said this was "an over the top silly way to make a point," and we know this, because it's in the part Rodemy quoted.
So, in other words, Rodemy's argument is, "Highroller's saying that the admitted over-the-top silly argument is silly! He must be a serial killer!"
And yet I'M the one who's trying too hard?
Rodemy, this is sad.
What do you mean "Is this still a topic of discussion?" You've never discussed it! You just said, oh dear, I made a bad play, please unvote me. You've never actually stated how it was possible for you to make such an error in the first place, and as for discussion, you've done the opposite of that. You've tried to dismiss and table discussion of your mistake, and then refused to talk about it since.
Do you guys see how he's just trying to sweep all of this under the rug without even bothering to address it?
What.
... Dude, this is a reach, and you know it.
The reason why I want a three-way tie is because I like breaking games. Did you not notice that by my repeated insistence on mass claiming? Hell, you've played a game in which I tried the entire time to break the game - successfully I might add - so you should know better.
"I admit that this is based on nothing except my own headcanon, so in other words it's based on nothing, yet I am still voting Highroller."
Yeah... I mean, to be fair, this is still better than Rodemy's "He who smelt it, dealt it" argument, but to be fair, a vote with no explanation would be better than that.
Also, wait a minute. What makes you think Gozer will give abilities to a player?
@Highroller I don't want to go for a 3 way tie because A it's hard to coordinate and more importantly B if there is a strong scum ability to be gained someone might decide it's worth breaking the tie to give their team that ability that night even if it means coming under suspicion.
@Tom why are you still voting for destructor?
So my theory is this whole choice is a Morton's fork, especially since they're each of them names for the same entity. It's also in keeping with the lore. Whether Gozer takes the form of a large and moving Torb, a giant Sloar, or a giant version of Mr. Stay Puft, he'll destroy the world either way.
And from what I've seen of Peter so far his personality certainly seems psychopathic. I haven't finished, so maybe there is some ~character development~, but Highroller's reaction to the possibility of Peter being serial killer seems over the top.
I'm kind of liking Tom, but that's probably a bad idea rn.
@Vaimes
You said earlier that you wanted to unravel Tom/Rodemy, then you said you didn't want to engage with Rodemy, then you voted Rodemy per Grape's request. I'm not getting your progression. Where are you at right now with the game?
First of all, Rodemy is pretty clearly our most likely mafia suspect. Second, I've been recovering from an illness. To give you an example, I slept for like 15 hours today. I was going to go through and give my reaction to the day's events, but I haven't had the opportunity to.
Feel better.
I am not in favor of potentially giving mafia an extra kill. We don't know that the other options will have to be selected. I'm assuming this is a mafia ability until proven otherwise.
Also I've got a crazy theory I can't wait to talk about till tomorrow.
The only reason anyone even thinks I'm a serial killer anyway is because Rodemy posted some asinine argument that said because I proposed that there might be a serial killer in this game, I must be a serial killer. It's a silly argument, and yet now I'm getting people trying to make the square peg fit in the round hole by saying, "Well, maybe Venkman might be a serial killer."
Which is silly. There's no reason, flavorwise, to think that Venkman is a serial killer. Moreover, there's no reason to think that I am.
Now, could the mod have chosen to go completely against flavor? It's entirely possible, but...
Here's the thing about flavor and alignment: why are we assuming Gozer's a bad thing?
Maybe Gozer's a great thing. Maybe Gozer wants to destroy the mafia. Maybe the Ghostbusters are the bad guys and Gozer wants to destroy them so that means he's the good guy. Or maybe Gozer doesn't want to really destroy or kill anyone, he just wants to bring good times and friendship. Maybe the thing Gozer the Destroyer really wants to destroy is the walls we build around our hearts to keep love out.
Except that's dumb and stupid. Gozer is terrifying. He's evil and scary and lays waste to worlds. His name is the Destroyer. He's clearly bad news and definitely something we should regard as a threat.
But here's the thing: how do we know that? What are we basing it on?
Oh, is it flavor? Is it based on our knowledge of the movie?
Yeah, so while I think it's fine to say that we shouldn't 100% trust the movie to be a perfect roadmap, I don't think we should throw it out either. Likewise, there's a difference between "I'm Peter Venkman, therefore I am 100% confirmed to be town" versus "I'm Peter Venkman, which is not irrelevant to the probability of me being a good guy and not a serial killer."
But Highroller might be
Do you read Rodemy as town? At the time of this post, I don't think Highroller were pushing so hard on Rod. What about Highroller doesn't seem earnest to you?[/quote]I think I had a block on him the first time because of the mass claim thing. Upon re-reading, his pushes on Rodemy feels townish. Like he believe he caught scum and so wouldn't let it go.
Why do you find elijah and Highroller awkward?
That was mostly fluff, I have a null read on him honestly.
What about Rumanshi pings you as scummy?
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Terry's #137 smells awfully like a shade.
vote: Gozer the Traveler because it's in yellow. I'll watch the movie tomorrow maybe and see if I would change my vote. Or just sheep if I'm too lazy~
As far as your question, I’m leaning derpy town for Rodemy. Beside the win condition thing I don’t have any concerns with his play.
You, on the other hand, come in, quote 4 posts and vote someone with little to no justification.
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It is shade, but that's not what's suspicious about Terry.
Terry's suspicious because he's being lurky, quiet, and self-deprecating. Which is not Terry. Terry is loud, bombastic, braggadocious, and triple posts routinely. It's like Terry's doing everything he can to try to stay in the background and avoid everyone's attention, which is the exact opposite of his normal behavior.
I assume Gozer is a bad thing, because the claims we have until now seem to point to the fact that ghostbusters are the good guys and the ghosts are the bad guys. Of course there might be some curveballs, but I operate under this assumption.
I said that I think that this grants an ability to a player as I assumed Gozer is a player in the game, but now that someone pointed it out I guess it could be a global effect, but I assume it's still going to be bad. I don't really see what else it could be outside of mafia/sk gaining an ability or a passive debuff.
Anyway highroller makes a great point about terry. I also think my theory was dumb and highroller's response has been nothing, but +town.
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@Fuwa
I found the way High went about his mass claim proposal not really well thought out. I could be wrong and maybe tomorrow there will be a good explanation for it, but it was disorganized and when asked to explain the benefits mechanically he failed to provide an adequate answer. I don't think he's mafia though.
Elijah's honesty and nonchalant attitude feel townie but I don't know where he's pulling most of his reads out of. If tone is the towniest thing about someone, I'd argue that's a bad sign. He seems comfortable with the game state for someone who admitted his scumread wasn't great.
Why those two? Did you miss the posts where I explain why?
If gozer is a factional mafia ability scumteam could be, like vez' character+Rick Moranis+gatekeeper+keymaster
If gozer is an actual mafia member, could still be with gatekeeper/keymaster and maybe that architect guy or just with some more powerful ghosty types
Can definitely see gozer as an SK/neutral if that's in this game
Could also be a game mechanic not related to a player
Also not against the idea of a town gozer but it does feel wrong short of [ghostbusters=mafia] which I don't believe to be the case
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I wanted to use him quoting a town win con verbatim and not getting moddkilled as a way to catch him as scum.(I did the same thing with Huntzilla in Big Red Button)
But i realized that is poor play.
Not really seeing much that peaks my interest.
Back to work and school.
The issue is not, and never has been, you using the quote to get me modkilled. The issue has always been that you saw me quote the town role PM and your reaction to it.
Now, would you care to address that?
WTF? No, no we absolutely should assume Gozer's a bad thing.
I don't believe that at all. Human and Ecto seem to be distinct categories from Town and Mafia, which implies the possibility of Ecto towns and Human mafia.
If Gozer's the big bad here, this is actually in keeping with the lore, as it would open the door for human mafia in the form of the Keymaster and Gatekeeper. If Ghostbusters 2 is incorporated into this game as well, there's even more room for human mafia.
It really doesn't.
I'm more interested in Vezok's inconsistencies, which are purely in-game. I don't like the explanation that he just happened to change his mind between those posts. This looks to me like he saw Highroller as a softer target and then got spooked off when meeting unexpected resistance (including from people other than Highroller).
unvote
vote Vezok
Vote: Vez
Thoughts on vez's claim?
@Grape
What changed between #353 and now? Where are you seeing the rolefishing (at least what changed between his initial claim, and recent further elaboration)?
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Also I finished the movie, and if we are going to be flavor gaming, the correct move would be to vote for none of the abilities (to not think about it at all). Not sure if that's a good idea because flavor could be NAI, and not voting might not give us information as opposed to voting. I'll think about it some more, maybe do a bit more research.
Highroller claimed a ghostbuster and my entire case was based on the fact that highroller is Gozer or aligned with Gozer. I hope you can put 2 and 2 together and realise that fakeclaims exist in games like this one.
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