If not then iirc your most recent comments in the thread are like
You agree Vez is not hardcleared (i.e. n1 action = cannot be the wolf)
you've been interacting with both Tom + I as though we're town and supporting our efforts to wade thru the game
your realist atm appears to be
{Kami}
{Vez}
{?worst, ?tom}
which feels disingenuous with your recent posting and is coincidentally a list which orders how highly people townread you
You were also strongly encouraged to put your money where your mouth is and throw down a vote which rather than do you chose to state intent to vote the two softtowncleared players who you've been tiptoeing around and treating as though we're town, reached out exclusively to the only person ITT you've pocketed (or,sorry,your only townread), and...... didn't vote at all? when you can doublelynch both of your alleged wolf prospects?
Gonna sound stupid as hell but both mechanically and behaviourally there's just something about your position in the game that's surreally good compared to Vezok's
you've like pushed insanely well and definitely been on the right side of the b2b scum lynches but I guess I'm flashing back to the points Grape made yesterday. plus from the mechanical point of view it's like, you nailed the resident awkward scum d1, were targeted by a scum power d1, have been softcleared via being roleblocked by Vez....idk why is this so hard to put into words. like Vez' clear feels more play oriented and messy and organic where your clears feel like they're good enough to potentially be orchestrated by a really good scum player
I'm sorry this doesn't sound like my heart's in it. I feel like KA is 90% scum and you're like... 10% at most... it's just never Vez
also given earlygame where like I took far too long to come around on Killma, had Cantrip nailed sod1 then changed my mind, had KA nailed n1 then changed my mind...it feels so like.. clean
Gonna sound stupid as hell but both mechanically and behaviourally there's just something about your position in the game that's surreally good compared to Vezok's
you've like pushed insanely well and definitely been on the right side of the b2b scum lynches but I guess I'm flashing back to the points Grape made yesterday. plus from the mechanical point of view it's like, you nailed the resident awkward scum d1, were targeted by a scum power d1, have been softcleared via being roleblocked by Vez....idk why is this so hard to put into words. like Vez' clear feels more play oriented and messy and organic where your clears feel like they're good enough to potentially be orchestrated by a really good scum player
I'm sorry this doesn't sound like my heart's in it. I feel like KA is 90% scum and you're like... 10% at most... it's just never Vez
AS INCORRECT TINFOIL READS GO THAT'S BETTER THAN GRAPES
A LITTLE INSULTED BY 90-10 THOUGH I'M AT LIKE, AT LEAST 98-1-1
yeah 10% was a roundup
I'm kinda at like 5% in reality
it's just Vez is like <2%, if he's scum he's a goddamn scumgod and I'm proud to have him walk on my tiny yellow face
like spun the other way I'd honestly take my read as more of a compliment than anything else. you've played so well I could see an abstract parallel universe where it was orchestrated.
on the flip flop if Vez has been orchestrated I don't trust myself to read people anymore tbqh
I'm fairly certain I want to vote both of you, actually. You're both more likely than Vezok is, both behaviorally and mechanically.
veeeeezok
MECHANICALLY? REALLY?
VEZOK DEFINITELY THE LEAST MECHANICAL HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH TO BE SCUM (AFTER YOU)
AGREE ON BEHAVIOR THOUGH. VEZOKS PLAY PRETTY SLICK IF SCUM.
Yes, mechanically. Because of the NK-blocking role, which is confirmed. A double kill, or a way around a killblock, is tricky; a scum NK-blocker with no vigs is pointless. Tricky roles sometimes exist; pointless roles don't.
Worst, you're trying real hard to shade me. I know at least one of you and Tom is town so I have to interact with you both like you're simultaneously town and scum. And I am not going to throw around votes because it's Lylo and votes are dangerous.
I know damn well that this sounds like OMGUS, but that's how Lylo works.
ONE THING NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF YET IS MY PUSH TO NOT LYNCH ALBERT YESTERDAY WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN BRILLIANT IF I COULD SURPASS PROTECTION. WHICH ID HAVE TO IN ORDER TO BE SCUM.
BUT ALSO IF I WAS THAT LEVEL OF UNBLOCKABLE... COULDN'T I HAVE KILLED NIGHT 2?
like spun the other way I'd honestly take my read as more of a compliment than anything else. you've played so well I could see an abstract parallel universe where it was orchestrated.
on the flip flop if Vez has been orchestrated I don't trust myself to read people anymore tbqh
AM 100% TAKING AS COMPLIMENT LOL
I AM VERY SLICK AS SCUM. ONLY LEFT MY SCUMRANGE ONCE THIS GAME AND IT'S SUPER ESOTERIC
KA if you acknowledge there's a world where I can be town engage with me a little? you're basically telling me the last wolf is Tom at this point. we agree Vez is never being lynched. sell me that Tom needs to be lynch #2
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this
Whichever of you is town, please consider that I created two extra lynches, while risking my own life in the process. In what universe does scum!KA do that? I assume this could be a scum role, I can see its utility for scum - but at that point in the game, with all the roles on the board already, scum!me could have picked virtually any falseclaim at my leisure (no rolecop in the game except a low-probability one on Vezok's randomizer). If I was scum, I could have let us lynch Albertino, killed a high/cleared townie, let us lynch Grapefruit, killed a high/cleared townie, and entered a way easier Lylo.
KA if you acknowledge there's a world where I can be town engage with me a little? you're basically telling me the last wolf is Tom at this point. we agree Vez is never being lynched. sell me that Tom needs to be lynch #2
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this
I have explained the scenarios multiple times. I feel like either you're town and you're so convinced I'm scum that you can't see past your existing read, or you're scum and you don't actually care about understanding. But sure, I'll sum it up another time.
Vezok is behaviorally the best of you three. He directly caused Killma's death on Day 1, and has been solidly townie throughout.
Vezok is also mechanically the best of you three. If he's scum, he has a pointless role; I judge pointless roles to be less probable than tricky ones.
You are behaviorally the worst of the three. I disliked your interactions earlier in the thread, and right now you're being gung-ho about killing me despite the Lylo danger, and I feel like you're misrepresenting or dismissing my points unfairly. While the immediate actions are obviously more apparent in the moment, I actually think it's your earlier thread behavior that is more of a consideration here, because it's consistent (and I don't have to worry about separating my emotional feeling at being targeted).
You are mechanically better than Tom. You need a "trickier" role + actions combination in order to fit the mechanical info we have.
Tom is behaviorally in the middle, with some minor suspicious things early but also townie interactions and behavior.
Tom is mechanically the worst; he requires a "tricky" role including an extra kill in order to do the thing, but that's less than what you need, and extra kills are pretty common.
KA if you acknowledge there's a world where I can be town engage with me a little? you're basically telling me the last wolf is Tom at this point. we agree Vez is never being lynched. sell me that Tom needs to be lynch #2
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this
I have explained the scenarios multiple times. I feel like either you're town and you're so convinced I'm scum that you can't see past your existing read, or you're scum and you don't actually care about understanding. But sure, I'll sum it up another time.
Vezok is behaviorally the best of you three. He directly caused Killma's death on Day 1, and has been solidly townie throughout.
Vezok is also mechanically the best of you three. If he's scum, he has a pointless role; I judge pointless roles to be less probable than tricky ones.
You are behaviorally the worst of the three. I disliked your interactions earlier in the thread, and right now you're being gung-ho about killing me despite the Lylo danger, and I feel like you're misrepresenting or dismissing my points unfairly. While the immediate actions are obviously more apparent in the moment, I actually think it's your earlier thread behavior that is more of a consideration here, because it's consistent (and I don't have to worry about separating my emotional feeling at being targeted).
You are mechanically better than Tom. You need a "trickier" role + actions combination in order to fit the mechanical info we have.
Tom is behaviorally in the middle, with some minor suspicious things early but also townie interactions and behavior.
Tom is mechanically the worst; he requires a "tricky" role including an extra kill in order to do the thing, but that's less than what you need, and extra kills are pretty common.
THE HELL YOU TALKING ABOUT EXTRA KILL?
I WOULD HAVE TO BE UNBLOCKABLE EXTRA KILL WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ALL 3 KILLS STOPPED
If you're town I'm sorry in like a post-game fashion, Kami. there's something about soft mechanical solves and reads that can be summed up with a table that just doesn't fit well with me. they don't feel genuine and ~flowy~, I'm getting more of a pre-planned structured energy.
tonality is one thing but it's kinda like I could draw a graph that sums up your exact position in the game and that's just not something I see coming from townies who are confused and hard pressed to solve a puzzle with super limited time :?
I WOULD HAVE TO BE UNBLOCKABLE EXTRA KILL WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ALL 3 KILLS STOPPED
Unblockable would work. Or you have an extra kill and the block doesn't affect delayed kills. Or factional kills aren't affected. Or the Hider who's not-really-dead really can fire the "extra action" factional kill when there's only one of you (which would also explain why Cantrip got caught - there were still 2 scum alive then).
There are more options here than there are for Worst, because I think the modtext more clearly and explicitly shuts down some variants.
idk Osie's mod meta but if anyone has heaps of time maybe check if he's used the tracker/watcher + ninja interaction historically and how he worded the result (i.e. "your target did not visit anyone" Vs "player name did not visit anyone"). imo it's common practice to use an intentionally ambiguously worded phrasing if accounting for the existence of manipulative roles such as ninja, redirector, etc. I could ask him this as well I guess I'm just kinda musing.
If you're town I'm sorry in like a post-game fashion, Kami. there's something about soft mechanical solves and reads that can be summed up with a table that just doesn't fit well with me. they don't feel genuine and ~flowy~, I'm getting more of a pre-planned structured energy.
tonality is one thing but it's kinda like I could draw a graph that sums up your exact position in the game and that's just not something I see coming from townies who are confused and hard pressed to solve a puzzle with super limited time :?
I know self-meta is of limited value, but this is just how I work. You can look at, for example, Token Power. Which was also in the middle of getting run up for a mislynch, amusingly enough.
I just struggle with sheer mechanical reads/solves when it doesn't feel like actual alignment reads have a lot of nuanced thought behind them--it makes it hard for me to read it like its real
I'll go have a read of that link tho, reading is always fun.
I WOULD HAVE TO BE UNBLOCKABLE EXTRA KILL WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ALL 3 KILLS STOPPED
Unblockable would work. Or you have an extra kill and the block doesn't affect delayed kills. Or factional kills aren't affected. Or the Hider who's not-really-dead really can fire the "extra action" factional kill when there's only one of you (which would also explain why Cantrip got caught - there were still 2 scum alive then).
There are more options here than there are for Worst, because I think the modtext more clearly and explicitly shuts down some variants.
MY NOTIFICATION SAID ALL KILLING ACTIONS, AS DID VEZOK.
KILL ISN'T FACTIONAL, AS PER GAME RULES
IT HAS TO BE EXACTLY UNBLOCKABLE/STRONGMAN FOR ME TO BE SCUM
IF KILLMA CAN PERFORM ACTIONS LITERALLY NO ONE IS CLEAR.
MAYBE STILL WORST KILLMA WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PERFORMED ALL OF IT NOT JUST THE KILLS FOR ME OR [ONE OF RB/TRACK/KILLBLOCK] FOR VEZOK
I WOULD HAVE TO BE UNBLOCKABLE EXTRA KILL WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ALL 3 KILLS STOPPED
Unblockable would work. Or you have an extra kill and the block doesn't affect delayed kills. Or factional kills aren't affected. Or the Hider who's not-really-dead really can fire the "extra action" factional kill when there's only one of you (which would also explain why Cantrip got caught - there were still 2 scum alive then).
There are more options here than there are for Worst, because I think the modtext more clearly and explicitly shuts down some variants.
MY NOTIFICATION SAID ALL KILLING ACTIONS, AS DID VEZOK.
"Stops all killing actions taken N3" and "A kill delayed from N2 doesn't count as taking an action N3" are perfectly compatible.
Yes, if killma can perform actions, none of us but Vezok is clear. Notably, my mechanical clear on Vezok doesn't rely on kill timing, so in that case Vezok still comes out on top.
Stepping away again until Vezok has a chance to post. The three of us are arguing in circles and I'm no closer to figuring out which of you is scum, and I doubt I'm any closer to convincing whichever of you is town to re-evaluate the situation.
I am in disbelief. I didn't even think there was a possibility of albertino flipping town.
Btw I know why grape got roleblocked. Dan targeted me with the ascetizer and grape didn't read the thread. So the scum don't have a roleblock. Sorry it took me so long to figure it out.
Tom has still not fullclaimed and I'd like to see that now.
I think I want to lynch KA and the worst, but I'm not sure. It might change to tom, but not quite. I still think it's just KA due to mechanics, but holy hell did he play an amazing game.
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Having a read of the Token Mafia game and for example 231 is a post which makes me think "ohey town" which is something I've been kinda looking for here. still working thru it but you were in an hydra and not very present. what exactly am I lookin for?
I actually liked your posting in token mafia markedly more than I do here. you weren't around as much so small sample size but in addition to the above I think 479 and 502 are town indicative. 479 has the kind of flow and effort to gamesolve intuitively and pretty smoothly blends where you're at wrt combo of mechanics + gamestate that comes from town
502 is a deliciously paranoid read on a slot that isn't worth pushing for a wolf at that point and reads as genuinely paranoid
I actually think you read really different there vs. here
I am in disbelief. I didn't even think there was a possibility of albertino flipping town.
Btw I know why grape got roleblocked. Dan targeted me with the ascetizer and grape didn't read the thread. So the scum don't have a roleblock. Sorry it took me so long to figure it out.
Tom has still not fullclaimed and I'd like to see that now.
I think I want to lynch KA and the worst, but I'm not sure. It might change to tom, but not quite. I still think it's just KA due to mechanics, but holy hell did he play an amazing game.
OH DAMN OK. I GUESS I DIDN'T READ EITHER.
AND MY WHOLE ROLE IS PUBLIC. TALK IN CAPS, TALK AT NIGHT, TARGET PLAYER CAN JOIN ME
DON'T THINK I EVER CLAIMED FLAVOR, BUT... DR DISCHORD, THE CHARACTER THAT SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS
I actually liked your posting in token mafia markedly more than I do here. you weren't around as much so small sample size but in addition to the above I think 479 and 502 are town indicative. 479 has the kind of flow and effort to gamesolve intuitively and pretty smoothly blends where you're at wrt combo of mechanics + gamestate that comes from town
502 is a deliciously paranoid read on a slot that isn't worth pushing for a wolf at that point and reads as genuinely paranoid
I actually think you read really different there vs. here
The only thing different about Token was that I was in a hydra, and you don't even comment on that.
I get that convincing other people of my reads is the part of Mafia I'm worst at, I just wish it wasn't happening in Lylo.
Vezok, do you have anything but surprise? Commentary on this, I guess it's a trichotomy?
KA following Vez's hard push on town!you in Token Mafia did you feel at all alarmed or intrigued by how much you guys synced in this game?
I had vague concerns early on, but he's got far too much continuing townie evidence. Seriously, his role is nearly an IC at this point in time.
DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH EITHER VEZ OR WORSTS ROLES BEING AI. LIKE, IT'S RANDOM ABILITIES
BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY HILARIOUS IF THE SUM TOTAL OF SCUM VEZ'S NIGHT ACTIONS THIS GAME MANAGED TO IMPROVE DAN'S ROLE AND PROVE ME AND WORST DIDN'T COMMIT KILLS
THINGS RARELY GO QUITE THAT RIDICULOUSLY
kinda weird opening of my brain rq
secretly I don't mind losing to scum!Tom or scum!vez if we're in those universes
there's a marginally higher chance we're in the scum!Tom universe than scum!vez I think
but yeah it's probably KA still and... everything is making me more sure.. KA let me know if you want me to keep responding to your concerns about me but at this point we're both either scum or confbiasing tbh
if you two both feel {KA, TW} is the dichotomy to hammer I'm probably not gonna fight all that hard because it likely still wins the game. I mean normally I'd yell that I'm towncleared mechanically but a case can be made for ang of the three of us to have been towncleared mechanically in some way or another.
I'd make a case that I'm clearly town but I don't necessarily expect anyone to read things that way. I'm mid burnout atm and generally not playing mafia at all because I have low energy for it, so my play is slow to move underexplained and when it's good feels TMIy, it's something I'm really cognisant of atm. so I don't really feel like anyone in particular is misreading me (in many ways even KA's mislynch case on me is actually fairly well done)
so yea I'll be around but that's kinda where I'm at wrt endgaming
KA following Vez's hard push on town!you in Token Mafia did you feel at all alarmed or intrigued by how much you guys synced in this game?
I had vague concerns early on, but he's got far too much continuing townie evidence. Seriously, his role is nearly an IC at this point in time.
DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH EITHER VEZ OR WORSTS ROLES BEING AI. LIKE, IT'S RANDOM ABILITIES
BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY HILARIOUS IF THE SUM TOTAL OF SCUM VEZ'S NIGHT ACTIONS THIS GAME MANAGED TO IMPROVE DAN'S ROLE AND PROVE ME AND WORST DIDN'T COMMIT KILLS
THINGS RARELY GO QUITE THAT RIDICULOUSLY
Vez has an NK-blocker. There are no town killing roles. Explain how that's not AI.
He had 12 abilities lmao
having one which presents as townsided is just well balanced regardless of alignment (even if we assume it exists)
What do you mean "assume it exists". It's been confirmed. Vezok and Tom are not both lying. And it doesn't just present as townsided, it is literally pointless on scum. Having pointless abilities, whether part of a JOAT or not, is just not a thing that happens.
INCLINED TO THINK VEZOK VOTING WORST OVER ME IS SUPER TOWNIE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BOTH BEEN PUTTING DOWN TODAY. IT'S LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF KAMI CLEARING ~POCKETED VEZ
veeeeezok
> doesn't have either of us pocketed
> doesn't know which one of us is mislynchable
yeah OK KA just claimed scum
vote: KA
VEZOK DEFINITELY THE LEAST MECHANICAL HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH TO BE SCUM (AFTER YOU)
AGREE ON BEHAVIOR THOUGH. VEZOKS PLAY PRETTY SLICK IF SCUM.
You agree Vez is not hardcleared (i.e. n1 action = cannot be the wolf)
you've been interacting with both Tom + I as though we're town and supporting our efforts to wade thru the game
your realist atm appears to be
{Kami}
{Vez}
{?worst, ?tom}
which feels disingenuous with your recent posting and is coincidentally a list which orders how highly people townread you
You were also strongly encouraged to put your money where your mouth is and throw down a vote which rather than do you chose to state intent to vote the two softtowncleared players who you've been tiptoeing around and treating as though we're town, reached out exclusively to the only person ITT you've pocketed (or,sorry,your only townread), and...... didn't vote at all? when you can doublelynch both of your alleged wolf prospects?
idgi I might be stupid or missing something but ??
unvote
my gut keeps telling me to have you as the bonus lynch
it's just like... never Vez
you've like pushed insanely well and definitely been on the right side of the b2b scum lynches but I guess I'm flashing back to the points Grape made yesterday. plus from the mechanical point of view it's like, you nailed the resident awkward scum d1, were targeted by a scum power d1, have been softcleared via being roleblocked by Vez....idk why is this so hard to put into words. like Vez' clear feels more play oriented and messy and organic where your clears feel like they're good enough to potentially be orchestrated by a really good scum player
I'm sorry this doesn't sound like my heart's in it. I feel like KA is 90% scum and you're like... 10% at most... it's just never Vez
A LITTLE INSULTED BY 90-10 THOUGH I'M AT LIKE, AT LEAST 98-1-1
I'm kinda at like 5% in reality
it's just Vez is like <2%, if he's scum he's a goddamn scumgod and I'm proud to have him walk on my tiny yellow face
on the flip flop if Vez has been orchestrated I don't trust myself to read people anymore tbqh
Worst, you're trying real hard to shade me. I know at least one of you and Tom is town so I have to interact with you both like you're simultaneously town and scum. And I am not going to throw around votes because it's Lylo and votes are dangerous.
I know damn well that this sounds like OMGUS, but that's how Lylo works.
BUT ALSO IF I WAS THAT LEVEL OF UNBLOCKABLE... COULDN'T I HAVE KILLED NIGHT 2?
FUN FACTS
I AM VERY SLICK AS SCUM. ONLY LEFT MY SCUMRANGE ONCE THIS GAME AND IT'S SUPER ESOTERIC
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this
#buzzwords
I'm looking for some nuance and trajectory
Vezok is behaviorally the best of you three. He directly caused Killma's death on Day 1, and has been solidly townie throughout.
Vezok is also mechanically the best of you three. If he's scum, he has a pointless role; I judge pointless roles to be less probable than tricky ones.
You are behaviorally the worst of the three. I disliked your interactions earlier in the thread, and right now you're being gung-ho about killing me despite the Lylo danger, and I feel like you're misrepresenting or dismissing my points unfairly. While the immediate actions are obviously more apparent in the moment, I actually think it's your earlier thread behavior that is more of a consideration here, because it's consistent (and I don't have to worry about separating my emotional feeling at being targeted).
You are mechanically better than Tom. You need a "trickier" role + actions combination in order to fit the mechanical info we have.
Tom is behaviorally in the middle, with some minor suspicious things early but also townie interactions and behavior.
Tom is mechanically the worst; he requires a "tricky" role including an extra kill in order to do the thing, but that's less than what you need, and extra kills are pretty common.
I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE DONE IT IF I WERE SCUMYOU
I WOULD HAVE TO BE UNBLOCKABLE EXTRA KILL WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ALL 3 KILLS STOPPED
tonality is one thing but it's kinda like I could draw a graph that sums up your exact position in the game and that's just not something I see coming from townies who are confused and hard pressed to solve a puzzle with super limited time :?
There are more options here than there are for Worst, because I think the modtext more clearly and explicitly shuts down some variants.
mechanical side of things is wearing me down tbh
I just struggle with sheer mechanical reads/solves when it doesn't feel like actual alignment reads have a lot of nuanced thought behind them--it makes it hard for me to read it like its real
I'll go have a read of that link tho, reading is always fun.
KILL ISN'T FACTIONAL, AS PER GAME RULES
IT HAS TO BE EXACTLY UNBLOCKABLE/STRONGMAN FOR ME TO BE SCUM
IF KILLMA CAN PERFORM ACTIONS LITERALLY NO ONE IS CLEAR.
MAYBE STILL WORST KILLMA WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PERFORMED ALL OF IT NOT JUST THE KILLS FOR ME OR [ONE OF RB/TRACK/KILLBLOCK] FOR VEZOK
Yes, if killma can perform actions, none of us but Vezok is clear. Notably, my mechanical clear on Vezok doesn't rely on kill timing, so in that case Vezok still comes out on top.
Stepping away again until Vezok has a chance to post. The three of us are arguing in circles and I'm no closer to figuring out which of you is scum, and I doubt I'm any closer to convincing whichever of you is town to re-evaluate the situation.
Btw I know why grape got roleblocked. Dan targeted me with the ascetizer and grape didn't read the thread. So the scum don't have a roleblock. Sorry it took me so long to figure it out.
Tom has still not fullclaimed and I'd like to see that now.
I think I want to lynch KA and the worst, but I'm not sure. It might change to tom, but not quite. I still think it's just KA due to mechanics, but holy hell did he play an amazing game.
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502 is a deliciously paranoid read on a slot that isn't worth pushing for a wolf at that point and reads as genuinely paranoid
I actually think you read really different there vs. here
AND MY WHOLE ROLE IS PUBLIC. TALK IN CAPS, TALK AT NIGHT, TARGET PLAYER CAN JOIN ME
DON'T THINK I EVER CLAIMED FLAVOR, BUT... DR DISCHORD, THE CHARACTER THAT SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS
I get that convincing other people of my reads is the part of Mafia I'm worst at, I just wish it wasn't happening in Lylo.
Vezok, do you have anything but surprise? Commentary on this, I guess it's a trichotomy?
GOD THIS DAY IS AWESOME THANKS OSI
BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY HILARIOUS IF THE SUM TOTAL OF SCUM VEZ'S NIGHT ACTIONS THIS GAME MANAGED TO IMPROVE DAN'S ROLE AND PROVE ME AND WORST DIDN'T COMMIT KILLS
THINGS RARELY GO QUITE THAT RIDICULOUSLY
secretly I don't mind losing to scum!Tom or scum!vez if we're in those universes
there's a marginally higher chance we're in the scum!Tom universe than scum!vez I think
but yeah it's probably KA still and... everything is making me more sure.. KA let me know if you want me to keep responding to your concerns about me but at this point we're both either scum or confbiasing tbh
if you two both feel {KA, TW} is the dichotomy to hammer I'm probably not gonna fight all that hard because it likely still wins the game. I mean normally I'd yell that I'm towncleared mechanically but a case can be made for ang of the three of us to have been towncleared mechanically in some way or another.
I'd make a case that I'm clearly town but I don't necessarily expect anyone to read things that way. I'm mid burnout atm and generally not playing mafia at all because I have low energy for it, so my play is slow to move underexplained and when it's good feels TMIy, it's something I'm really cognisant of atm. so I don't really feel like anyone in particular is misreading me (in many ways even KA's mislynch case on me is actually fairly well done)
so yea I'll be around but that's kinda where I'm at wrt endgaming
@whoever's town don't **** up
no pressure
having one which presents as townsided is just well balanced regardless of alignment (even if we assume it exists)
but I respect all of your intelligenceses
I can't choose what my ability does and I don't want to hit a 1/12 chance.
I'm just down to lynch both KA and the worst.
I'm convinced it's just KA who played a spectacular game, but the odds were not in his favour.
Vote KA
vote the worst
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INCLINED TO THINK VEZOK VOTING WORST OVER ME IS SUPER TOWNIE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BOTH BEEN PUTTING DOWN TODAY. IT'S LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF KAMI CLEARING ~POCKETED VEZ